December 5, 2025 • 14 mins
Kyler Murray won’t play the rest of this season & may need a new home in 2026.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Tyler Murray is a Texas athlete legend football and baseball.
I think he ran track too, so he's got a
lot of accolades in the sports world in the state.
Cliff Kingsbury desperately wanted to coach him and recruited him
to succeed Johnny Manziel at Texas A and M, but
he didn't want to wait around that long, so he
ended up at various places, including OU, where he finally
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played after Jalen Hurts had his day in the sun there.
And there are high school coaches that will tell you,
and it's usually between him and Adrian Peterson and maybe
Vince Young and one or two others that Kyler Murray was,
if not the certainly among the top three or four
greatest Texas high school football players that ever played.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, definitely he was.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't think his team ever lost, did they?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
As his starter, he never lost a start as the quarterback,
and that was in three years at Allen.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And I think even he played in like middle school
too and never lost too.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I don't know about middle school, but I do know
as like as a starter on varsion in high school, he.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Never lost a start.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, they won forty games in a row something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, I mean, just practicing against air. That's hard not
to lose sometimes.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I myself have seen a lot of great high school players.
I remember played We played against Gary Gilbert when he
was a hot shot. He was the next hot shot
quarterback at the Lake Travis. We played Johnny Manzel when
he was like a freshman.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And he was where did you play? I played Hendrickson.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It was in Fluerville, Texas, right, and we played against
Tybee in the playoffs back to back years, by the way,
and this guy number he wore number five. I remember said, hey,
watch out for number five. He was doing everything he
was doing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When I called games for Bernie High School two thousand
and eight, Bernie had to go to Kerrville and play
Kerveville Tyveee. Yeah, and their quarterback had been suspended for
what I was told he was caught drinking in the
Walmart parking lot in Curveville.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
But it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I guess that's the thing to do in Curveville. That's
just stuff like that happened. But they suspended him for
two games. And Manzill was a wide receiver his freshman
year or sophomore year. He was it was and so
and that the guy that was a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
His name is Kate. It doesn't matter. But anyway, he
got suspended.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Uh and uh so they they put him, they put
him at quarterback that day. He's fifteen years old. I
mean he had just turned he was barely fifteen. He's
almost fourteen.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, they won sixty to twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh my godne against against Bernie and that he accounted
for all sixty of the points. So it was he
either ran back kicks, he ran back punts, he threw
a pass, or he or you know, Bust had played
at Johnny on one Let's go, and there was it
was clearly evident that the best player on that field,
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and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
There wasn't a second best player. It was umber five.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well, well he was I don't remember what number he
wore in high school, but if it was five, it
was five.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It was five, I remember him.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
But he I mean he had like five hundred dollars
total all purpose yards.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And he passed us some, he ran some, but and
once he got passed the first wave of defense. I
think the final score was sixty to twenty and that's
a lot too little so anyway, but back to Kyler Murray.
So Kyler Murray ends UPIDEOU and he plays. One of
the reasons he chose OU is because while he was
sitting on the bench behind behind Herts, they let him
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play baseball as well.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Baker Mayfield. No, he was he Baker then it was Hurts.
It was after ba it was he was after Baker,
that's right. So he left.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
They let him play baseball, and he got drafted and
got a six million dollars signing bonus with the Oakland A's,
and the next year he was going to be the
starting quarterback with with Baker jettisoned off to the NFL
and Lincoln Riley was only making five point seven so
the powers at b and OU thought it would be
a better look if the coach made as much or
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more money than the quarterback. Yet, because it was legal
back then for you to get a signing bonus in
baseball if you are not playing. Once you stopped playing
college baseball, and he had no intentions of playing baseball
his senior year. His intention at the time was, I'm
going to play quarterback at OU for a year and
I think that was twenty seventeen, maybe thanks and then
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go into the and then go to spring training. After that,
Well that didn't work out because he won the Heisman,
and now he was going to go from not getting
drafted to being the number one draft pick in the NFL,
and the path to riches and fame and fortune in
the NFL is certainly much quicker. He signed his rookie
contract and then shortly after that signed for one hundred
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and ninety million dollars and life is great for the
Murray family in perpetuity. If you go to the baseball route,
you get the signing bonus play whatever the minor league
contract is until you make the team, and then you're
basically indebted to them for seven years before they sign you,
and you're twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight years old,
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and then once you get your first real contract, they
don't want to extend you because now you're thirty two
and you're going to be You're not going to you're
you're too old. That's one of the things that Major
League Baseball is going to have to deal with. Are
they going to start paying players early like the NFL does,
or if because players are are going to want shorter
spansp to where they're going to be be bound to
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that team if they can't cash out like the Yankees
did Aaron Judge a favor because they could have waited
two or three more years to extend him and they didn't,
And there's all kinds of loopholes to be able to
do that. You can extend a guy whenever you want,
but a lot of times Major League Baseball owners don't
want to do that because they want to keep that
guy as cheap as possible for as long as possible.
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And it's the Bryce Harper's and the one Sodos that
when they started in the show at eighteen or nineteen
that benefit from this because that first contract comes at
twenty six and the second contract comes at twenty eight
or twenty nine, not the first contract at twenty eight
or twenty nine and the big one at thirty three.
And now by the time the contract ends, you're not
good enough and you're aged out, and we don't take
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steroids anymore, or at least not on the level that
they used to. So it's a better path to go
football because you can get rich quicker.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh yeah, by the time you're twenty four in the NFL,
you're getting paid.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
You're getting no, you're getting your second contracts.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
You're twenty four in baseball most time you might just
now be getting getting exactly in the NFL. Though. You
also look with Kyler Murray, he got drafted him when
he was only he would just turn twenty one, so
he was still among those younger quarterbacks, similar to Lamar Jackson. Yes,
and so when he was drafted he was still I
think nineteen. It's like that was the second year of
college athletics, so it would have been right before the
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Heisman year.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So yeah, he would have been nineteen at that time.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So anyway, the the writing on the wall is is
that Kyler Murray's days in Arizona are over right, and
that they will trade him during the offseason and they
will probably get at best a third round pick.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
He's he's gonna get two first quarterbacks, Kyler Murray quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
There's no way Tyler Murray is getting two. Absolutely, there's
no team in the NFL that should give Kyler Murray
to first round pick.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Guarantee you there are, but especially the desperate teams, especially
because if you consider this.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So let's go down this list. Who are the desperate teams?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Okay, I got actually a bunch of you, and I
got one wild card team that could trade for.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It won't happen, but they.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Could trade for because I see three teams that might
want him.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
So I got a couple.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Can we agree the Jets would do it because they
have they have multiple first.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Round I got two problems with the Jets. Justin Fields
is still the quarterback and they kind of like him
cheap contract, and and and uh, Kyler Murray does not
play well in cold weather.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Okay, well, even still, the Jets are a viable team
for that, because the.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Jets would got two first round picks to to Arizona.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yes they would.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I wouldn't give you two first round picks for Las Vegas. Absolutely,
that's the number one pick. That's the number one teams.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Also because because based on twenty twenty six cap projection,
remember Kyler Murray's cap number next year I believe, is
I have an up it is, yeah, his cap number
next year is fifty three million dollars. It's only guarantee
is thirty six. But these are teams that could afford
him that could also afford trade for him. So we
had the Jets and the Raiders as options. The next
one would be someone like Pittsburgh. Now remember Aaron Rodgers
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in a one year deal. Backup Mason Rudolph and a
one year deal. Then you have Howard from Ohio State,
so they would actually actually be able to afford him
in that regard. So that would also be a team
I think you could biably trade for him. And then
to go down the list a little bit, then you
get and he got to teams like you know, like
could could the Falcons or they've be done with Michael Penix.
I don't think so. The wild card team I would
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throw out there because follow him here. They have enough
money and because of what they did last year in
the draft and what they've done with quarterbacks, would make
a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
What about the Rams ninety four million.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Dollars, that's another team I was thinking about.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Ninety four million dollars in cap space.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Next year, you have two first round picks thanks to
the trade with the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
If the Rams win the Super Bowl, Stafford's retiring.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Stafford's retiring exactly because like now, they haven't opening it
at a position. Now, would Arizona want to trade their
quarterback within division? That's where things get a little testy.
It's not very It's not often that you trade franchise
level players within you, within your own division. It's happened,
but it's very rare. I think that the Jets, the Raiders,
and the Steelers make the most sense. Don't sleep on
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the Rams in that regard, especially Sean mcvagh and Kyler Murray. Absolutely,
But if you look at teams especially what they do,
the position that gets the highest trade value in the
NFL is caught is quarterbacks, especially quarterbacks with high contract value.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But okay, my think my take is is Kyler Murray
hasn't showed me enough yet. It doesn't matter that he
can play. Uh So, let me go through those teams that.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You mcgot for got a second round pick on four starts,
Garoppolo got a got a second round pick in return.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
After I'm not giving you two number ones for Kyler Murray.
I'll just take my chances in the draft. Okay, uh my,
might I do agree with you on the Rams. I think,
especially if Stafford retires, that would be a good stock.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Because you're not going to get a top pick as.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And I think, uh think Sean McVay can work with
him in his style. I think he likes the mobility
that Kyler Murray brings to that position.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And they're in a.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Dome and it's warm weather, and they play San Francisco
and Arizona twice in Seattle twice, and you're gonna probably
play him at least once when it's nice and warm.
You're not gonna have to play a lot of cold
weather games. But here's but the other thing about the
Rams is they're going to draft so far far down
in the draft that they're not going to get one
of the top quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So this would be a good choice.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
But they do own the Falcons pick. Remember they own
the Falcons pick.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
The Rams too.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, because I don't care where you draft him, I'm
just saying that, Well, I guess the Rams could draft
a better quarterback. They could draft a rookie with the
seventh or eighth pick whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
The Rams fall.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Doesn't like drafting quarterbacks. Yeah, well, he likes veterans.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He likes veterans. But I think that if you had,
if you can trust that Kyler Murray can take up
where Stafford left. Off and just have a decent time there.
Then you can groom a young quarterback under him and
kind of let them develop slowly.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But that's number one. So I have the Raiders. I'm
not at all.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Gonna look at Geno Smith as the future of the Raiders.
They got to get better at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I don't know that Kyler Murray's there. If I'm the
Raiders and you're probably gonna draft in the top ten, again,
there's four quarterbacks out there. I want one of those four.
If I'm Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh needs to do what so many
other teams have done. They need to evaluate who the
best quarterback is in the draft and then trade to
go get that guy if he's the third pick, or
the twelfth pick or the fifteenth pick, whoever they think
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is the best quarterback in this draft. And I tend
to I'm not a big fan of Alabama quarterbacks. I've
kind of throw Ty Simpson out out the window. Jalen
Hurts being the exception. Tua has been so so well, Yeah,
you got a cup of coffee in Normally he played
for Alabama for four years and then went to Ou
for one.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
To your point, though, like this year's quarterback class is
it's still to be the term because the top guys
might come back.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, I think the guy at Oregon is it More Moore.
That's that's the guy I would look at right now.
But whoever, whatever the Steelers have to do to make
a trade to get to that spot to draft that quarterback,
that's where I and I think they just need to
live with a rookie quarterback. If they can bolster the
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offensive line, if they can find the right running back.
With the defense they have, they can put up with
rookie mistakes at quarterback because it can't be any worse
than what they've had the last few years. They've had
too much patch work with Rogers and Justin Fields and
uh and Russell Wilson. They need to go find the
next Ben Roethlisberger and throw him in the fire.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And see if he can do it. Okay, So Rams
and Raiders were my two.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
The other was New Orleans. Uh, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Think but New Orleans is probably money.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, they're gonna probably bank on a ship that's going
to be their next quarterback and so, but they need
some help there about Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Again, like they traded all that to get up and
for McCarthy and this is the fact a rookie year
because he was hurt last year.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think we're giving at least one more year.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
What what about Daniel Jones and replacing cam in Indianapolis?
If Daniel Jones, if they if they don't resign them,
if they don't resign them, Okay, So that would be.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
A dream scenario because the Colts right now on roster
alone have a really good roster. And then Dale Jones,
obviously working with Shane Steichen, has turned his career around.
It's possible that Dale Jones may have priced himself out
of Indy. Oh theoretically, because I write according to this,
According to Spoe Track, Indy's estimated cap value is gonna
be about fifty eight sorry, fifty seven point nine million
dollars next year. But that would also mean if you
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resign Dale Jones, likely what's gonna happen is you're gonna
unload some of your more expensive contracts, just offset a
little bit. But if you're Kyler Murray, then yeah, you
would prefer to play play in Indie.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Then got them maybe Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I just did not you're indoors, Well, well that that alone, sure,
but also don't forget like I think you also have,
like maybe can a better chance to win. I think
you have a better chance to win an Indie right
now that you would in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
All right, So those are the possible destinations. I may
be wrong in that he is not going to only
get a third round pick, but I cannot imagine two
first round picks for Kyler Murray. I wouldn't to me,
he has not done enough to deserve that much.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Cloud.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I would just gamble with somebody else, all right. More
coming up on the ticket
Tyler Murray is a Texas athlete legend football and baseball.
I think he ran track too, so he's got a
lot of accolades in the sports world in the state.
Cliff Kingsbury desperately wanted to coach him and recruited him
to succeed Johnny Manziel at Texas A and M, but
he didn't want to wait around that long, so he
ended up at various places, including OU, where he finally
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played after Jalen Hurts had his day in the sun there.
And there are high school coaches that will tell you,
and it's usually between him and Adrian Peterson and maybe
Vince Young and one or two others that Kyler Murray was,
if not the certainly among the top three or four
greatest Texas high school football players that ever played.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, definitely he was.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't think his team ever lost, did they?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
As his starter, he never lost a start as the quarterback,
and that was in three years at Allen.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And I think even he played in like middle school
too and never lost too.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I don't know about middle school, but I do know
as like as a starter on varsion in high school, he.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Never lost a start.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, they won forty games in a row something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, I mean, just practicing against air. That's hard not
to lose sometimes.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I myself have seen a lot of great high school players.
I remember played We played against Gary Gilbert when he
was a hot shot. He was the next hot shot
quarterback at the Lake Travis. We played Johnny Manzel when
he was like a freshman.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And he was where did you play? I played Hendrickson.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It was in Fluerville, Texas, right, and we played against
Tybee in the playoffs back to back years, by the way,
and this guy number he wore number five. I remember said, hey,
watch out for number five. He was doing everything he
was doing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When I called games for Bernie High School two thousand
and eight, Bernie had to go to Kerrville and play
Kerveville Tyveee. Yeah, and their quarterback had been suspended for
what I was told he was caught drinking in the
Walmart parking lot in Curveville.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
But it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I guess that's the thing to do in Curveville. That's
just stuff like that happened. But they suspended him for
two games. And Manzill was a wide receiver his freshman
year or sophomore year. He was it was and so
and that the guy that was a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
His name is Kate. It doesn't matter. But anyway, he
got suspended.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Uh and uh so they they put him, they put
him at quarterback that day. He's fifteen years old. I
mean he had just turned he was barely fifteen. He's
almost fourteen.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, they won sixty to twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh my godne against against Bernie and that he accounted
for all sixty of the points. So it was he
either ran back kicks, he ran back punts, he threw
a pass, or he or you know, Bust had played
at Johnny on one Let's go, and there was it
was clearly evident that the best player on that field,
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and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
There wasn't a second best player. It was umber five.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well, well he was I don't remember what number he
wore in high school, but if it was five, it
was five.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It was five, I remember him.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
But he I mean he had like five hundred dollars
total all purpose yards.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And he passed us some, he ran some, but and
once he got passed the first wave of defense. I
think the final score was sixty to twenty and that's
a lot too little so anyway, but back to Kyler Murray.
So Kyler Murray ends UPIDEOU and he plays. One of
the reasons he chose OU is because while he was
sitting on the bench behind behind Herts, they let him
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play baseball as well.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Baker Mayfield. No, he was he Baker then it was Hurts.
It was after ba it was he was after Baker,
that's right. So he left.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
They let him play baseball, and he got drafted and
got a six million dollars signing bonus with the Oakland A's,
and the next year he was going to be the
starting quarterback with with Baker jettisoned off to the NFL
and Lincoln Riley was only making five point seven so
the powers at b and OU thought it would be
a better look if the coach made as much or
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more money than the quarterback. Yet, because it was legal
back then for you to get a signing bonus in
baseball if you are not playing. Once you stopped playing
college baseball, and he had no intentions of playing baseball
his senior year. His intention at the time was, I'm
going to play quarterback at OU for a year and
I think that was twenty seventeen, maybe thanks and then
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go into the and then go to spring training. After that,
Well that didn't work out because he won the Heisman,
and now he was going to go from not getting
drafted to being the number one draft pick in the NFL,
and the path to riches and fame and fortune in
the NFL is certainly much quicker. He signed his rookie
contract and then shortly after that signed for one hundred
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and ninety million dollars and life is great for the
Murray family in perpetuity. If you go to the baseball route,
you get the signing bonus play whatever the minor league
contract is until you make the team, and then you're
basically indebted to them for seven years before they sign you,
and you're twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight years old,
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and then once you get your first real contract, they
don't want to extend you because now you're thirty two
and you're going to be You're not going to you're
you're too old. That's one of the things that Major
League Baseball is going to have to deal with. Are
they going to start paying players early like the NFL does,
or if because players are are going to want shorter
spansp to where they're going to be be bound to
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that team if they can't cash out like the Yankees
did Aaron Judge a favor because they could have waited
two or three more years to extend him and they didn't,
And there's all kinds of loopholes to be able to
do that. You can extend a guy whenever you want,
but a lot of times Major League Baseball owners don't
want to do that because they want to keep that
guy as cheap as possible for as long as possible.
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And it's the Bryce Harper's and the one Sodos that
when they started in the show at eighteen or nineteen
that benefit from this because that first contract comes at
twenty six and the second contract comes at twenty eight
or twenty nine, not the first contract at twenty eight
or twenty nine and the big one at thirty three.
And now by the time the contract ends, you're not
good enough and you're aged out, and we don't take
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steroids anymore, or at least not on the level that
they used to. So it's a better path to go
football because you can get rich quicker.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh yeah, by the time you're twenty four in the NFL,
you're getting paid.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
You're getting no, you're getting your second contracts.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
You're twenty four in baseball most time you might just
now be getting getting exactly in the NFL. Though. You
also look with Kyler Murray, he got drafted him when
he was only he would just turn twenty one, so
he was still among those younger quarterbacks, similar to Lamar Jackson. Yes,
and so when he was drafted he was still I
think nineteen. It's like that was the second year of
college athletics, so it would have been right before the
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Heisman year.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So yeah, he would have been nineteen at that time.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So anyway, the the writing on the wall is is
that Kyler Murray's days in Arizona are over right, and
that they will trade him during the offseason and they
will probably get at best a third round pick.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
He's he's gonna get two first quarterbacks, Kyler Murray quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
There's no way Tyler Murray is getting two. Absolutely, there's
no team in the NFL that should give Kyler Murray
to first round pick.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Guarantee you there are, but especially the desperate teams, especially
because if you consider this.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So let's go down this list. Who are the desperate teams?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Okay, I got actually a bunch of you, and I
got one wild card team that could trade for.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It won't happen, but they.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Could trade for because I see three teams that might
want him.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
So I got a couple.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Can we agree the Jets would do it because they
have they have multiple first.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Round I got two problems with the Jets. Justin Fields
is still the quarterback and they kind of like him
cheap contract, and and and uh, Kyler Murray does not
play well in cold weather.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Okay, well, even still, the Jets are a viable team
for that, because the.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Jets would got two first round picks to to Arizona.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yes they would.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I wouldn't give you two first round picks for Las Vegas. Absolutely,
that's the number one pick. That's the number one teams.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Also because because based on twenty twenty six cap projection,
remember Kyler Murray's cap number next year I believe, is
I have an up it is, yeah, his cap number
next year is fifty three million dollars. It's only guarantee
is thirty six. But these are teams that could afford
him that could also afford trade for him. So we
had the Jets and the Raiders as options. The next
one would be someone like Pittsburgh. Now remember Aaron Rodgers
(08:14):
in a one year deal. Backup Mason Rudolph and a
one year deal. Then you have Howard from Ohio State,
so they would actually actually be able to afford him
in that regard. So that would also be a team
I think you could biably trade for him. And then
to go down the list a little bit, then you
get and he got to teams like you know, like
could could the Falcons or they've be done with Michael Penix.
I don't think so. The wild card team I would
(08:34):
throw out there because follow him here. They have enough
money and because of what they did last year in
the draft and what they've done with quarterbacks, would make
a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
What about the Rams ninety four million.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Dollars, that's another team I was thinking about.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Ninety four million dollars in cap space.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Next year, you have two first round picks thanks to
the trade with the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
If the Rams win the Super Bowl, Stafford's retiring.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Stafford's retiring exactly because like now, they haven't opening it
at a position. Now, would Arizona want to trade their
quarterback within division? That's where things get a little testy.
It's not very It's not often that you trade franchise
level players within you, within your own division. It's happened,
but it's very rare. I think that the Jets, the Raiders,
and the Steelers make the most sense. Don't sleep on
(09:14):
the Rams in that regard, especially Sean mcvagh and Kyler Murray. Absolutely,
But if you look at teams especially what they do,
the position that gets the highest trade value in the
NFL is caught is quarterbacks, especially quarterbacks with high contract value.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But okay, my think my take is is Kyler Murray
hasn't showed me enough yet. It doesn't matter that he
can play. Uh So, let me go through those teams that.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You mcgot for got a second round pick on four starts,
Garoppolo got a got a second round pick in return.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
After I'm not giving you two number ones for Kyler Murray.
I'll just take my chances in the draft. Okay, uh my,
might I do agree with you on the Rams. I think,
especially if Stafford retires, that would be a good stock.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Because you're not going to get a top pick as.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And I think, uh think Sean McVay can work with
him in his style. I think he likes the mobility
that Kyler Murray brings to that position.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And they're in a.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Dome and it's warm weather, and they play San Francisco
and Arizona twice in Seattle twice, and you're gonna probably
play him at least once when it's nice and warm.
You're not gonna have to play a lot of cold
weather games. But here's but the other thing about the
Rams is they're going to draft so far far down
in the draft that they're not going to get one
of the top quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So this would be a good choice.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
But they do own the Falcons pick. Remember they own
the Falcons pick.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
The Rams too.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, because I don't care where you draft him, I'm
just saying that, Well, I guess the Rams could draft
a better quarterback. They could draft a rookie with the
seventh or eighth pick whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
The Rams fall.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Doesn't like drafting quarterbacks. Yeah, well, he likes veterans.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He likes veterans. But I think that if you had,
if you can trust that Kyler Murray can take up
where Stafford left. Off and just have a decent time there.
Then you can groom a young quarterback under him and
kind of let them develop slowly.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But that's number one. So I have the Raiders. I'm
not at all.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Gonna look at Geno Smith as the future of the Raiders.
They got to get better at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I don't know that Kyler Murray's there. If I'm the
Raiders and you're probably gonna draft in the top ten, again,
there's four quarterbacks out there. I want one of those four.
If I'm Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh needs to do what so many
other teams have done. They need to evaluate who the
best quarterback is in the draft and then trade to
go get that guy if he's the third pick, or
the twelfth pick or the fifteenth pick, whoever they think
(11:37):
is the best quarterback in this draft. And I tend
to I'm not a big fan of Alabama quarterbacks. I've
kind of throw Ty Simpson out out the window. Jalen
Hurts being the exception. Tua has been so so well, Yeah,
you got a cup of coffee in Normally he played
for Alabama for four years and then went to Ou
for one.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
To your point, though, like this year's quarterback class is
it's still to be the term because the top guys
might come back.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, I think the guy at Oregon is it More Moore.
That's that's the guy I would look at right now.
But whoever, whatever the Steelers have to do to make
a trade to get to that spot to draft that quarterback,
that's where I and I think they just need to
live with a rookie quarterback. If they can bolster the
(12:23):
offensive line, if they can find the right running back.
With the defense they have, they can put up with
rookie mistakes at quarterback because it can't be any worse
than what they've had the last few years. They've had
too much patch work with Rogers and Justin Fields and
uh and Russell Wilson. They need to go find the
next Ben Roethlisberger and throw him in the fire.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And see if he can do it. Okay, So Rams
and Raiders were my two.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
The other was New Orleans. Uh, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Think but New Orleans is probably money.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, they're gonna probably bank on a ship that's going
to be their next quarterback and so, but they need
some help there about Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Again, like they traded all that to get up and
for McCarthy and this is the fact a rookie year
because he was hurt last year.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think we're giving at least one more year.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
What what about Daniel Jones and replacing cam in Indianapolis?
If Daniel Jones, if they if they don't resign them,
if they don't resign them, Okay, So that would be.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
A dream scenario because the Colts right now on roster
alone have a really good roster. And then Dale Jones,
obviously working with Shane Steichen, has turned his career around.
It's possible that Dale Jones may have priced himself out
of Indy. Oh theoretically, because I write according to this,
According to Spoe Track, Indy's estimated cap value is gonna
be about fifty eight sorry, fifty seven point nine million
dollars next year. But that would also mean if you
(13:39):
resign Dale Jones, likely what's gonna happen is you're gonna
unload some of your more expensive contracts, just offset a
little bit. But if you're Kyler Murray, then yeah, you
would prefer to play play in Indie.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Then got them maybe Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I just did not you're indoors, Well, well that that alone, sure,
but also don't forget like I think you also have,
like maybe can a better chance to win. I think
you have a better chance to win an Indie right
now that you would in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
All right, So those are the possible destinations. I may
be wrong in that he is not going to only
get a third round pick, but I cannot imagine two
first round picks for Kyler Murray. I wouldn't to me,
he has not done enough to deserve that much.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Cloud.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I would just gamble with somebody else, all right. More
coming up on the ticket
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