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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, It's Andy Everett. Thank you so much for
listening to Tickets seven sixty and to my radio show
from four pm to seven pm every day on Sports
Radio Am seven sixty The Ticket. Now stay tuned for
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(00:21):
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com on the iheartapp enjoy this podcast of the Andy
Evert Show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
All Light the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Beam, Light the Beam, Light the beam, wherever you find yourself.
It is the Friday edition of the Andy Everett Show. Obviously,
with the voice on the other end of this microphone
not being Andy Evert, means I am back in the
big chair once again today something that just dawned on
(00:51):
me last night, something that I will be doing quite
a bit over the next seven days. We'll get into
that along the way. Of course, I am joined, as
always on the other side of the glass by Shane
running the mothership out here, running the show, making sure
we stay on air. Unlike yesterday, you missed it. I
(01:12):
don't know if you were listening first heard about it. Okay, Yeah,
we had to get our crack crackpot it team on
the issue yesterday because I had fears that we might
have our first technical meltdown with me at the controls yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Oh no, it won't the first time. Remember the first
time we had technical meltdown was when we had to
switch studios.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
For an entire show.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh, I have mentally tried to block that day out
so much. That is something ye you know, to be
to be completely honest, I hadn't even thought about that
another time until just now. Sorry about that. Yeah, I
had mentally well, that was frustrating. Cross your fingers. Hopefully
We're only going till six thirty today for a good
(01:54):
reason though. We have a UT basketball game, not just
any UT basketball game, a matchup with the number five
ranked Yukon Huskies on the road up in Connecticut. So
we got a lot to get to and not enough
time to get to it. Of course, i'd said, you know,
with Andy hitting the busiest part of his travel year
(02:17):
between basketball and the Bowl game coming up the day
after Christmas, you'll get a lot of Shane and I
over the next week and including for the first time
in years, going on three years. Next week I will
be on the airwaves of Ticket seven sixty every single day,
(02:38):
Monday through Friday, something that I wouldn't have thought was
actually possible six months ago. But alas, if that's something
we're celebrating, celebrate along with me. If that's something that
you're not too excited about. Indifference is the enemy, So
listen and tell me how bad it is along the
(03:00):
way next week, Shane, you're the hamster wheel is turning.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, Well, I'm just thinking like, if someone has a
problem with they can always talk about it on their
radio show. Oh wait, they don't have one, that's why
they're listening to you.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
No, everybody, everybody has one. Now, if you have a phone,
you can do your own show. That's the beauty of
It's the beauty of the cheapening of technology and the
gatekeeping that you're attempting to lay out there, the inability
to get away with that anymore. I tease, we got
a lot to get to today. Of course, it is Friday,
(03:31):
so we'll close the show out anytime I am in
here on a Friday, we'll close the show out with
another edition of The Cave. Got some actually nation, some
national news coming out of San Antonio. That we'll get
to in the cave something a event taking place this
weekend here in our fair burg. The other national news
(03:52):
we'll get to when we talk Spurs, because we did
get some injury updates. You know, the Spurs are officially
back when shams is dry uping. Uh, you know, newsworthy
events revolving around our Spurs. So we got some great
news for the Spurs going into the matchup tomorrow night
against the Thunder. Of course, we've got to five o'clock
(04:16):
hour reserve for a little football happy hour. Got a
lot of cowboys to get into in the five o'clock
of course, the you know, every game is a they
got to win out. Every game is a must win, right,
So we'll get into some of the some of the
things that scare me about this game against the Vikings
on Sunday Sunday Night football. We'll be waiting all day
(04:39):
for Sunday Night, waiting for Carrie Underwood to tell us
it's now officially time for Sunday Night football.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
But am I crazy to think that faith Hill was
better at that?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Am I crazy to think that Hank Williams Junior never
should have been fired.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Like yeah, that's Monday night though it's about the Sunday
Night song.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, but it's if you're doing it for Monday Night,
I get it. I don't think every single prime like
Thursday Night doesn't need a theme song, Sunday Night doesn't
need like Monday Night Football needs a theme song. The
rest of them are just copycat at that point. So
anybody that's doing it on a day other than Monday.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Because now Sunday has two songs. Remember that they had
the carry to a song and they have Snoop.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And yeah, that's the Monday Night.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
That is Monday you're right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Snoop gets paid. He changes one line of the song
each week. Like Carrie Underwood, Carry makes like a million
dollars a week.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
For that stupid song. Yeah, it's good money if you
can get it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Besides Cowboys, though, in the five o'clock we've got the
rest of NFL Week fifteen. Do a little looxie there there.
I would say there are a couple of pseudo elimination
games on the schedule for Sunday, and we'll get into
those in the five o'clock hour. I mentioned gonna be
in every day next week. Andy is only in the
(06:03):
big chair on Tuesday. So it's going to be a
lot of college football playoff talk next week because we
have our first matchup next Friday night, Bama at Oklahoma.
So we're going to talk a lot more of that
next week. But I do have a couple thoughts looking
(06:24):
at the bracket again last night putting together the run sheet.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But I mentioned filling in for Andy.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
November fifth, I was sitting in this big chair, the
biggest chair. Also, I think we're the only station not
doing a marathon or telethon or broadcast athon right now.
There's a I saw a duel and mister T in
the hallways, and if they're up here at four o'clock
in the afternoon, it must be something important.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, maybe should be asleep by now.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, mister T told me he had just woken up
from his nap. No, they've got the Saint Jude's going
on on kJ and then Fluise on WAI. So a
lot of good work being done out here today as
we sit here and play on the toy isle talking
sports for two and a half hours. But we are
officially four days away from the Emirates Cup Final. When
(07:20):
I was sitting in this chair on November fifth, doing
a what seemed to be a worthless, pointless silly bit
doing a countdown to said Emirates NBA Cup Final. On
November fifth, we were forty one days away from the
Cup final. It was a Spurs game day, just so
(07:42):
happened to be the five and one Spurs playing the
six and two Lakers, a team the Spurs just eliminated
on Wednesday night on their march towards the NBA Cup Finals.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Spurs lost that game back on November fifth.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They did it was it was the first game without
Dylan Harper. He had just gotten injured the game before
the Aaron Fox wasn't back yet. Cornett was still injured
and you had, you know, Sohan o'lennick also out as well.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So, thinking back from early.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
November until where we find ourselves today on Friday December.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Twelfth, we are. I think there's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
More seriousness being taken towards the NBA Cup and some
of it some of it, I understand. It's ridiculous. Andy
and I were talking about this yesterday. I do understand
what I'm doing is a bit, and the NBA Cup
is a giant.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Profitable bit. For the league. But we're going to talk
in the next segment.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You can't tell me that it's not better basketball than
what we would have been subjected to in early December
in regular season.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But we'll get to Spurs next.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
As always, when I am in the big chair, I
like to start with what I watched last night, what
we all watched. I would assume we were all watching
the race to the bottom of the NFC South as
the Atlanta Falcons come back beat the Buccaneers on a
game winning field goal, a game that I it doesn't
(09:22):
I jokingly say it, but it really doesn't seem like
anyone wants to win the NFC South. You had, you know,
the Buccaneers now on an absolute tail slide. We had
the Saints beating the Panthers last week for what reason,
for exactly, and now you turn around and the Falcons
(09:43):
are still in it against all odds. There is still
a mathematical way for them to find themselves at the
top of the standings by the end of the year.
The Buccaneers seven and seven, Panthers seven and six going
in to their game this week. They played twice in
the last three weeks of the season, so it is
(10:06):
setting up. You mentioned the Falcons are still in it, Yes,
mathematically they are, but it's setting up to be basically
a two game play in series between the Buccaneers and
Panthers now to close out the year.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And how about Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I mean, well, it's something about playing the Buccaneers when
he's you know, since he's been in Atlanta Falcon last year.
You remember he had what eight hundred and something combined
yards in the two games they played. There was that
fifty fifty something to forty somethings thriller last season between
(10:45):
these two teams. Of course, Kirk Cousin's playing now despite
being benched all year for Michael PENNOCKX junior. Now Cousins
comes in and ruins some of the Falcons draft value
by winning these games, as you mentioned why, but they
(11:06):
are still in it technically. But the bigger thing it
made me think about as Cowboys prepare to go up
against the Vikings this weekend, I think you can look
over the course of history across the NFL where teams
have made the decision to turn to the quarterback in
(11:27):
waiting and expedited the end of their previous starting quarterbacks
career with said team. And you know, Kirk Cousins. Falcons
didn't move on from Cousins financially, they kept him on
the roster, but they did bench him in favor of
Michael Pennock junior, who they spent a top ten pick on.
(11:47):
And I you know, Penis has shown the flashes that
the skill set is there. But for a team that
clearly has the pieces to win a really bad division,
it does a bit of hindsight would suggest maybe Kirk
Cousins should have been starting all season for them. And
(12:10):
it makes me think specifically with Vikings right now and
Vikings fans watching that game last night, I think they're
probably feeling a little bit of the same similar emotions
watching Sam Darnold play in Seattle right now, while they're
subjected to watching JJ McCarthy lead their team that won
fourteen games last year to basically a throwaway season.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And what's unfair really for the fans, and I mean
nine for the franchise, but for the fans, is that
both the Falcons and the Vikings are essentially stuck with
the decisions they made. Because remember, the Falcons not only
use a top ten pick on Michael Pennix junior. But
also they gave where they're a number one pick for
this upcoming draft. Last year with the Rams that get
(12:54):
James Pearce, the Vikings moved up in the draft to
go get JJ McCarthy. And now I remember JJ mc
this is actual first year, so this season is his
de facto rookie year, so he's going through all the
rookie struggles in his second year. And so right now,
you're right, the Vikings and Falcons are just on paper,
take the quarterback away, have actually really good rosters, and
(13:14):
you would think that with better quarterback play. You look
at the Bikings last year, pretty much the same roster,
different quarterback. They go from fourteen to three, and they're
likely going to finish with like six wins or something
like that, depending on how their schedule finishes out. And
the Falcons are probably going to finish back in that
seven to seven to ten, eight to nine range because
they sell a game with the with the Rams, and
depending on how the rest of the division shakes out,
(13:35):
they might end up being at least second the division.
Because you don't know how this one's gonna end out.
But the Falcons and the Bikings have themselves in a
position on their own doing to where they are not
only quarterback deficient, but they are stuck with the quarterback
they have.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, and we've you know, for every time for every
Tampa Bay or Minnesota issue or situation where they moved
on from the quarterback and didn't have the guy they
had to replace him turned out to not be the
guy you mentioned, ironically, a guy who's back in the
(14:10):
news this week. One example where it did work out
when Chargers moved on from Drew Brees to hand the
reins over to Philip Rivers. So, I mean, we've seen
obviously when you when you know you have the guy,
that's a decision that is easily defendable. But I mean,
looking at it from an outsider's perspective, I don't see
(14:34):
how Minnesota was that comfortable in JJ McCarthy, as just
as I don't see how Atlanta was that comfortable in
Michael Pennix junior being ready. Especially the Minnesota one, there's
some level there's some difference in understanding because they would
(14:54):
have had to give Sam Darnold the big contract, right,
they would have had to give him the three year
commitment like Darnold got with Seattle, and then you're really
really closing the door on JJ McCarthy's development or ascension
to the starting role Atlanta. Atlanta gave Kirk Cousins one
(15:15):
hundred million dollars guaranteed and still drafted Pinnick, and still
drafted Pinnix and still benched Cousins. So that one, you know,
Minnesota chose not to commit, Atlanta chose to commit and
then still went the same path as Minnesota is choosing
to go. Just interesting interesting parallels there.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's the it's the concept of a team as always,
you have to have a quarterback to win, right, just
based on anything else. One thing you have to have
is you have to have a quarterback. But the one
thing you also can't do is is that you can't
create a controversy of your own doing. Now, if you
draft someone later on and they become better than the
guy who started, I'll allow Tom Brady Drew Bledsoe, that's
something entirely different. But like like you talked about, if
(15:58):
you already gave Kirk Cousins a fully guaranteed contract and
you still use your first round draft pick on a quarterback,
that's your own doing. With the Vikings. Obviously the plan
was never to have Sam Donald be their long term
but you'd found out Sam Donald might actually be better
for your offense under Kevin O'Connell than JJ McCarthy might be.
And at one point do we say, I know, we
use draft pics on this guy, but this guy's better
(16:19):
in the whole concept of a team to play the
best players. Aren't you going against your own your own
rules at that point?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And also, I mean you throw it at you say
long term, I think if you're talking long term planning
in baseball, where you're managing prospects and controlling how long
they're in the minors before you call them up, if
you're thinking long term in terms of u NBA roster construction,
and you're lining up like Andy and I were talking
(16:47):
about yesterday, like we're gonna talk about here a little
bit in the next segment, and you're lining up contract
extensions whereas some guys expire, you're giving your younger players
their first, you know, max level extension, which is how
the spurs of line things up. I don't think you
can think like that in the NFL. The NFL more
than any other American sport is a season by season basis,
(17:10):
and if you're thinking quote unquote long term in the NFL,
the longest you should be thinking out is three years.
I think each window is about three years at a time.
And you're thinking, we've built this roster up to where
it's at now, we have a three year window of contention,
and for whatever reason, it seems like Minnesota and Atlanta
chose to absolutely throw away whatever windows of contention they
(17:35):
had with better quarterback play to try to develop that
long term vision. Just very rarely do very rarely do
you see it work out in the favor of the
team there coming up next.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I've been doing the bit for a month, two months.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
We are four days away from the Emirates NBA Cup Final.
Let's talk Spurs Thunder next here on the ticket
Hello everyone, It's Andy Everett. Thank you so much for
listening to Tickets seven sixty and to my radio show
from four pm to seven pm every day on Sports
Radio Am seven sixty The Ticket. Now stay tuned for
the podcast it's coming up next. Don't forget to subscribe
to Ticket seven sixty dot com. You can also participate
in the show v our feedback talkback button. Just hit
(00:21):
that big red microphone icon at Ticket seven sixty dot
com on the iheartapp enjoy this podcast of the Andy
Evert Show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
All Light the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Beam, Light the Beam, Light the beam, wherever you find yourself.
It is the Friday edition of the Andy Everett Show. Obviously,
with the voice on the other end of this microphone
not being Andy Evert, means I am back in the
big chair once again today something that just dawned on
(00:51):
me last night, something that I will be doing quite
a bit over the next seven days. We'll get into
that along the way. Of course, I am joined, as
always on the other side of the glass by Shane
running the mothership out here, running the show, making sure
we stay on air. Unlike yesterday, you missed it. I
(01:12):
don't know if you were listening first heard about it. Okay, Yeah,
we had to get our crack crackpot it team on
the issue yesterday because I had fears that we might
have our first technical meltdown with me at the controls yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Oh no, it won't the first time. Remember the first
time we had technical meltdown was when we had to
switch studios.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
For an entire show.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh, I have mentally tried to block that day out
so much. That is something ye you know, to be
to be completely honest, I hadn't even thought about that
another time until just now. Sorry about that. Yeah, I
had mentally well, that was frustrating. Cross your fingers. Hopefully
We're only going till six thirty today for a good
(01:54):
reason though. We have a UT basketball game, not just
any UT basketball game, a matchup with the number five
ranked Yukon Huskies on the road up in Connecticut. So
we got a lot to get to and not enough
time to get to it. Of course, i'd said, you know,
with Andy hitting the busiest part of his travel year
(02:17):
between basketball and the Bowl game coming up the day
after Christmas, you'll get a lot of Shane and I
over the next week and including for the first time
in years, going on three years. Next week I will
be on the airwaves of Ticket seven sixty every single day,
(02:38):
Monday through Friday, something that I wouldn't have thought was
actually possible six months ago. But alas, if that's something
we're celebrating, celebrate along with me. If that's something that
you're not too excited about. Indifference is the enemy, So
listen and tell me how bad it is along the
(03:00):
way next week, Shane, you're the hamster wheel is turning.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, Well, I'm just thinking like, if someone has a
problem with they can always talk about it on their
radio show. Oh wait, they don't have one, that's why
they're listening to you.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
No, everybody, everybody has one. Now, if you have a phone,
you can do your own show. That's the beauty of
It's the beauty of the cheapening of technology and the
gatekeeping that you're attempting to lay out there, the inability
to get away with that anymore. I tease, we got
a lot to get to today. Of course, it is Friday,
(03:31):
so we'll close the show out anytime I am in
here on a Friday, we'll close the show out with
another edition of The Cave. Got some actually nation, some
national news coming out of San Antonio. That we'll get
to in the cave something a event taking place this
weekend here in our fair burg. The other national news
(03:52):
we'll get to when we talk Spurs, because we did
get some injury updates. You know, the Spurs are officially
back when shams is dry uping. Uh, you know, newsworthy
events revolving around our Spurs. So we got some great
news for the Spurs going into the matchup tomorrow night
against the Thunder. Of course, we've got to five o'clock
(04:16):
hour reserve for a little football happy hour. Got a
lot of cowboys to get into in the five o'clock
of course, the you know, every game is a they
got to win out. Every game is a must win, right,
So we'll get into some of the some of the
things that scare me about this game against the Vikings
on Sunday Sunday Night football. We'll be waiting all day
(04:39):
for Sunday Night, waiting for Carrie Underwood to tell us
it's now officially time for Sunday Night football.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
But am I crazy to think that faith Hill was
better at that?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Am I crazy to think that Hank Williams Junior never
should have been fired.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Like yeah, that's Monday night though it's about the Sunday
Night song.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, but it's if you're doing it for Monday Night,
I get it. I don't think every single prime like
Thursday Night doesn't need a theme song, Sunday Night doesn't
need like Monday Night Football needs a theme song. The
rest of them are just copycat at that point. So
anybody that's doing it on a day other than Monday.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Because now Sunday has two songs. Remember that they had
the carry to a song and they have Snoop.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And yeah, that's the Monday Night.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
That is Monday you're right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Snoop gets paid. He changes one line of the song
each week. Like Carrie Underwood, Carry makes like a million
dollars a week.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
For that stupid song. Yeah, it's good money if you
can get it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Besides Cowboys, though, in the five o'clock we've got the
rest of NFL Week fifteen. Do a little looxie there there.
I would say there are a couple of pseudo elimination
games on the schedule for Sunday, and we'll get into
those in the five o'clock hour. I mentioned gonna be
in every day next week. Andy is only in the
(06:03):
big chair on Tuesday. So it's going to be a
lot of college football playoff talk next week because we
have our first matchup next Friday night, Bama at Oklahoma.
So we're going to talk a lot more of that
next week. But I do have a couple thoughts looking
(06:24):
at the bracket again last night putting together the run sheet.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But I mentioned filling in for Andy.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
November fifth, I was sitting in this big chair, the
biggest chair. Also, I think we're the only station not
doing a marathon or telethon or broadcast athon right now.
There's a I saw a duel and mister T in
the hallways, and if they're up here at four o'clock
in the afternoon, it must be something important.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, maybe should be asleep by now.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, mister T told me he had just woken up
from his nap. No, they've got the Saint Jude's going
on on kJ and then Fluise on WAI. So a
lot of good work being done out here today as
we sit here and play on the toy isle talking
sports for two and a half hours. But we are
officially four days away from the Emirates Cup Final. When
(07:20):
I was sitting in this chair on November fifth, doing
a what seemed to be a worthless, pointless silly bit
doing a countdown to said Emirates NBA Cup Final. On
November fifth, we were forty one days away from the
Cup final. It was a Spurs game day, just so
(07:42):
happened to be the five and one Spurs playing the
six and two Lakers, a team the Spurs just eliminated
on Wednesday night on their march towards the NBA Cup Finals.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Spurs lost that game back on November fifth.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They did it was it was the first game without
Dylan Harper. He had just gotten injured the game before
the Aaron Fox wasn't back yet. Cornett was still injured
and you had, you know, Sohan o'lennick also out as well.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So, thinking back from early.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
November until where we find ourselves today on Friday December.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Twelfth, we are. I think there's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
More seriousness being taken towards the NBA Cup and some
of it some of it, I understand. It's ridiculous. Andy
and I were talking about this yesterday. I do understand
what I'm doing is a bit, and the NBA Cup
is a giant.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Profitable bit. For the league. But we're going to talk
in the next segment.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You can't tell me that it's not better basketball than
what we would have been subjected to in early December
in regular season.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But we'll get to Spurs next.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
As always, when I am in the big chair, I
like to start with what I watched last night, what
we all watched. I would assume we were all watching
the race to the bottom of the NFC South as
the Atlanta Falcons come back beat the Buccaneers on a
game winning field goal, a game that I it doesn't
(09:22):
I jokingly say it, but it really doesn't seem like
anyone wants to win the NFC South. You had, you know,
the Buccaneers now on an absolute tail slide. We had
the Saints beating the Panthers last week for what reason,
for exactly, and now you turn around and the Falcons
(09:43):
are still in it against all odds. There is still
a mathematical way for them to find themselves at the
top of the standings by the end of the year.
The Buccaneers seven and seven, Panthers seven and six going
in to their game this week. They played twice in
the last three weeks of the season, so it is
(10:06):
setting up. You mentioned the Falcons are still in it, Yes,
mathematically they are, but it's setting up to be basically
a two game play in series between the Buccaneers and
Panthers now to close out the year.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And how about Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I mean, well, it's something about playing the Buccaneers when
he's you know, since he's been in Atlanta Falcon last year.
You remember he had what eight hundred and something combined
yards in the two games they played. There was that
fifty fifty something to forty somethings thriller last season between
(10:45):
these two teams. Of course, Kirk Cousin's playing now despite
being benched all year for Michael PENNOCKX junior. Now Cousins
comes in and ruins some of the Falcons draft value
by winning these games, as you mentioned why, but they
(11:06):
are still in it technically. But the bigger thing it
made me think about as Cowboys prepare to go up
against the Vikings this weekend, I think you can look
over the course of history across the NFL where teams
have made the decision to turn to the quarterback in
(11:27):
waiting and expedited the end of their previous starting quarterbacks
career with said team. And you know, Kirk Cousins. Falcons
didn't move on from Cousins financially, they kept him on
the roster, but they did bench him in favor of
Michael Pennock junior, who they spent a top ten pick on.
(11:47):
And I you know, Penis has shown the flashes that
the skill set is there. But for a team that
clearly has the pieces to win a really bad division,
it does a bit of hindsight would suggest maybe Kirk
Cousins should have been starting all season for them. And
(12:10):
it makes me think specifically with Vikings right now and
Vikings fans watching that game last night, I think they're
probably feeling a little bit of the same similar emotions
watching Sam Darnold play in Seattle right now, while they're
subjected to watching JJ McCarthy lead their team that won
fourteen games last year to basically a throwaway season.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And what's unfair really for the fans, and I mean
nine for the franchise, but for the fans, is that
both the Falcons and the Vikings are essentially stuck with
the decisions they made. Because remember, the Falcons not only
use a top ten pick on Michael Pennix junior. But
also they gave where they're a number one pick for
this upcoming draft. Last year with the Rams that get
(12:54):
James Pearce, the Vikings moved up in the draft to
go get JJ McCarthy. And now I remember JJ mc
this is actual first year, so this season is his
de facto rookie year, so he's going through all the
rookie struggles in his second year. And so right now,
you're right, the Vikings and Falcons are just on paper,
take the quarterback away, have actually really good rosters, and
(13:14):
you would think that with better quarterback play. You look
at the Bikings last year, pretty much the same roster,
different quarterback. They go from fourteen to three, and they're
likely going to finish with like six wins or something
like that, depending on how their schedule finishes out. And
the Falcons are probably going to finish back in that
seven to seven to ten, eight to nine range because
they sell a game with the with the Rams, and
depending on how the rest of the division shakes out,
(13:35):
they might end up being at least second the division.
Because you don't know how this one's gonna end out.
But the Falcons and the Bikings have themselves in a
position on their own doing to where they are not
only quarterback deficient, but they are stuck with the quarterback
they have.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, and we've you know, for every time for every
Tampa Bay or Minnesota issue or situation where they moved
on from the quarterback and didn't have the guy they
had to replace him turned out to not be the
guy you mentioned, ironically, a guy who's back in the
(14:10):
news this week. One example where it did work out
when Chargers moved on from Drew Brees to hand the
reins over to Philip Rivers. So, I mean, we've seen
obviously when you when you know you have the guy,
that's a decision that is easily defendable. But I mean,
looking at it from an outsider's perspective, I don't see
(14:34):
how Minnesota was that comfortable in JJ McCarthy, as just
as I don't see how Atlanta was that comfortable in
Michael Pennix junior being ready. Especially the Minnesota one, there's
some level there's some difference in understanding because they would
(14:54):
have had to give Sam Darnold the big contract, right,
they would have had to give him the three year
commitment like Darnold got with Seattle, and then you're really
really closing the door on JJ McCarthy's development or ascension
to the starting role Atlanta. Atlanta gave Kirk Cousins one
(15:15):
hundred million dollars guaranteed and still drafted Pinnick, and still
drafted Pinnix and still benched Cousins. So that one, you know,
Minnesota chose not to commit, Atlanta chose to commit and
then still went the same path as Minnesota is choosing
to go. Just interesting interesting parallels there.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's the it's the concept of a team as always,
you have to have a quarterback to win, right, just
based on anything else. One thing you have to have
is you have to have a quarterback. But the one
thing you also can't do is is that you can't
create a controversy of your own doing. Now, if you
draft someone later on and they become better than the
guy who started, I'll allow Tom Brady Drew Bledsoe, that's
something entirely different. But like like you talked about, if
(15:58):
you already gave Kirk Cousins a fully guaranteed contract and
you still use your first round draft pick on a quarterback,
that's your own doing. With the Vikings. Obviously the plan
was never to have Sam Donald be their long term
but you'd found out Sam Donald might actually be better
for your offense under Kevin O'Connell than JJ McCarthy might be.
And at one point do we say, I know, we
use draft pics on this guy, but this guy's better
(16:19):
in the whole concept of a team to play the
best players. Aren't you going against your own your own
rules at that point?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And also, I mean you throw it at you say
long term, I think if you're talking long term planning
in baseball, where you're managing prospects and controlling how long
they're in the minors before you call them up, if
you're thinking long term in terms of u NBA roster construction,
and you're lining up like Andy and I were talking
(16:47):
about yesterday, like we're gonna talk about here a little
bit in the next segment, and you're lining up contract
extensions whereas some guys expire, you're giving your younger players
their first, you know, max level extension, which is how
the spurs of line things up. I don't think you
can think like that in the NFL. The NFL more
than any other American sport is a season by season basis,
(17:10):
and if you're thinking quote unquote long term in the NFL,
the longest you should be thinking out is three years.
I think each window is about three years at a time.
And you're thinking, we've built this roster up to where
it's at now, we have a three year window of contention,
and for whatever reason, it seems like Minnesota and Atlanta
chose to absolutely throw away whatever windows of contention they
(17:35):
had with better quarterback play to try to develop that
long term vision. Just very rarely do very rarely do
you see it work out in the favor of the
team there coming up next.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I've been doing the bit for a month, two months.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
We are four days away from the Emirates NBA Cup Final.
Let's talk Spurs Thunder next here on the ticket
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