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August 22, 2025 14 mins
The SEC’s 9-game conference requirement could have lucrative effects for smaller schools.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Thank you for spitting your day with us. I am
Andy Everett Audio disseminator. Today is Mike is Shane Carter.
Michael Bartlett's off today in Monday, and that's because he's
got a lot of work to do when he comes back.
If you're listening, Michael, to enjoy your tight days off
and get ready for the football season because it comes
in earnest next week.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
He's probably sleeping. No, he's up my name. I'm just
messing with him.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's just because he talked about forever he talked about
the show, also that he had bouted insomnia, and so
I always tell him they get some sleeping.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, when you work a shift like he did for
so long with the Spurs and you're basically going home
at one o'clock in the morning after every game, you
don't go to bed for a while, and then you
get into the habit of okay, my day is if
your workday is noon to eight or three to midnight,
you're gonna sleep about hours.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
So I don't gee, he'll be good.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Andy. My first year with the Spurs was when my
daughter was born. When she was a newborn.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, so he don't even know about miss sleep. I
know you do. Yeah, but it's it's different. It's different.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, all right, let's talk about the SEC and their
nine game schedule. There are some pros and cons to this,
and I believe the pros probably outweigh the cons. But
what you're gonna have is SEC teams are gonna play
ten Power four schools every year. Now in the SEC,

(01:28):
you're gonna have usually Kentucky is decent but not great.
Vanderbilt's been better, and a lot of that's because of
NIL They can start paying players to come there, but
they still have some academic restrictions that you have to
get past. Mississippi State's going to be terrible forever because
no one really wants to go there for football. Maybe
they're a baseball school, but they're not a football school

(01:50):
right now. I think Mississippi is vastly overrated. But okay,
Arkansas is going to be up and down with the
roster that they can create. The same I think with Missouri,
is it drink a Witz. It's a coach at Missouri, Yeah,
drink I think he's got them in a better trajectory,
but can they sustain it. But the rest of the

(02:12):
league is pretty good at football. And takes it pretty seriously.
And so I believe that one of the things that
you're gonna play nine hard football games every year, and
now you're gonna play one in the non conference season
as well, and you're you're gonna you're going to be
limited on how on how you schedule the other two.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Non conference games.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Now, Texas is not going to play any non Power
of U or non FBS teams going forward. They don't
have anyone on their schedule for the foreseeable future. Next
year they've got i think it's rights in UTSA and
Texas State or something like that next year, So they're
not gonna play They're not going to go that route.
But Alabama may still have the Alabama Furman or the

(02:55):
Yellow Alabama game against you know, Citadel or somebody like
that at forward, and all those schools. South Carolina likes
to play the Citadel. It's a South Carolina the traditional thing.
But I think that a lot of people like to
see that go away. But understand too that it's a
guaranteed home game and guaranteed revenue for a school, and

(03:17):
it's also very important. And this is where I'm one
of the things I'm fearful going forward is there are
going to be fewer non Power four teams that are
going to get a payday, and those one point five
million and one point seven million, and what UTSA is
done with Texas to have you know, five years and
eight million over the from twenty two to thirty All

(03:37):
of those are very important to the lifeblood of the
non power force schools. And we're going to see a
lot of power non power forward schools that are trying
to get games have a difficult time scheduling the Power
fives because the Power fives are going to pick. I
have to pick judiciously. I'll give you an example. If
you TSA were to beat Texas A and M and

(03:58):
I'm not saying they are, but if they now Texas
can't necessarily cancel the game next year.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
But then you've got UTSA.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I think going to LSU in twenty seven, back to
Texas in twenty eight. They're probably trying to find a
twenty nine game against a Power five opponent. And it's
assuming that Jeff Trailer stays put forever and that organization
continues to be good. Our school is going to want
to play you if there's a chance that you can
beat them and take their one point five million dollars.

(04:29):
So I think it's really important for the Conference USA,
American Conference, Mountain West Conference, the MAC and all those
schools to get still get those games because they need
that money too, and certainly to the non power non
Power four teams and the FCS teams, they need that.
But here's the other part that I think is a
negative for every school in the SEC. It's one more

(04:53):
game where you have a better chance of your better
players getting hurt. And the NFL every week is a
battle because you've got grown men that are top notch
athletes that are twenty three to thirty five, maybe forty
years old playing football and it's their job to get
ready every week for the physicality of the NFL. The

(05:14):
college athlete, you can say it's also their job now too,
because they're getting paid, but they still have class, they
still have other things they got to do, and many
of them still want to be a college student from
time to time. Plus most everybody that's a body development
type person will tell you that the brain and the
body parts and all that kind of stuff haven't fully
developed usually until you're in your mid twenties or at

(05:37):
least in your early twenties. So I think adding another game,
it's going to be really critical to watch how these
players have with concussions and with soft tissue injuries and
broken bones and torn ligaments, because it's going to be
one more chance for you to do that, not against
a patsy where the shoulder pads are off by halftime,
but by a really good team that can beat you.

(06:00):
I think the other part of this equation is going
to come back down to the boosters of these organizations
and the fans that for years looked at the successes
of their team not by whether they won a national
championship or not that was important, but by total number
of wins. I can't see any team in the SEC
ever going undefeated. Never again will you see it. You

(06:21):
may get a one off here and there, but once
every twenty five years will you get an undefeated team,
and then they will not be able to sustain that
transfer portal.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And nil and all.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
This kind of stuff is really going to hamper people
getting from getting into an undefeated season. So if Texas
loses to Ohio State, it's like the NFL, it doesn't
necessarily matter as much as it used to if Texas
loses or OHU loses to LSU at the end of
the season, but they've won eleven games going into that season,

(06:54):
it doesn't kill them in terms of the championship because
they're still probably going to get in, but in the
past it would, So that's that's a positive thing. But
it's another big time opponent that you have to play,
and your fans are going to have to get out
of this mindset that winning eleven or twelve games a
year is the expectation. The expectation is being one of

(07:15):
the twelve teams that gets invited to the tournaments.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Andy, there's a good aspect of this that I think,
I think you might might not be seen right away.
So if we look at the SEC, and by the way,
in this new rules, the SEC is required to play
one power for opponent or Notre Dame of year, so
you can't just play cupcakes. So that's Big twelve, Big
ten acc We'll see if they start to if they
re recognize the PAC twelve as a power that's remains

(07:37):
and then Notre Dame. There are teams already with historical
rivalries that are adds to their schedule every year. South
Carolina is set every year with Clemson Florida set every
year of Florida State. Let's say a team like Texas
wants to have a series with a year forever series
with a team like UTSA that at a certain point
would incentivize UTSA and GET and give them the opportunity

(07:58):
to potentially move up to the Power Conference and now
would take over Texas's UH outside of the SEC Power
UH requirement. So I would see I would see more likely,
I think we'll see more of those teams in the
Group UH conferences move up to to to accumulate.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well. I I think that even if they stay in
the American Conference, which I think is more likely, and
I'll touch on that in a second, with those other
teams in there, I believe that that that that Texas
wants to play FBS teams. Texas doesn't want to play
Abilene Christian and and and Steven F.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Austin.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
That doesn't do them any good in terms of ranking
should they lose somewhere around the and Craig talked about
that yesterday, that they want to play the those those teams.
I will be very surprised if the four Power schools,
the four Power markets of the American Conference are invited
to go to the Big twelve or to a to a.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Power for school.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I would say it's a ten to fifteen year maybe.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And I'll give.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
You some examples why South Florida, Twulane, UTSA, and Memphis
are the power brokers the medium markets in the American
Conference that matter most. The University of Charlotte is in
a good market, but they are so they're more underfunded
from a sports standpoint. I mean, they're barely funded at
the same level that the South End Conference or maybe

(09:27):
the Mountain Western Conference USA is. There's not a lot
of people. They play in a fourteen thousand seed arena,
our stadium. They have a great basketball officially that it's
got some history, and I have not seen the baseball venue.
But Charlotte's are in a big market that don't have
anywhere near the interest in that program that those other
cities do. Memphis is redoing the Liberty Bowl and when

(09:48):
it's done, they'll have a really good stadium and they
play it at FedEx Forum, so they've got that going
for them. Tulane Stadium is on the same grounds that
the old two lane stadium, and that actually hosted a
Super Bowl is but it's vastly smaller than it was it.
I think it seats maybe thirty twenty five thousand somewhere there.

(10:09):
South Florida is going to move out of Raymond James
Stadium in the next couple of years into an on
campus stadium that's going to seat about forty five thousand.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's under construction right now.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
So I think in order to move up to the
next level, your athletic budget, which I think in a
lot of these schools is between fifty and sixty five million,
maybe seventy million. Now South Florida is up there, that
number's got to go to one hundred million to one
hundred and twenty five hundred and fifty million. So you're
basically asking all these schools to double how much their
athletic budget is. And it's not only not only from

(10:40):
a financial standpoint, it's it's paying staff members and coaches
and assistant coaches at a level that those other leagues do.
You also have to talk about facilities. We like the
story convo, but the Big the Big twelve, would not
want you to play the game. Your game's there maybe
in five years. The Frost Bank Center becomes a potential venue,

(11:01):
but you're going to have to have a team that's
top thirty in the nation to get people to want
to go that far to watch, whereas campus facilities are
usually a lot better. I believe that utsa's best chances
to winning national championship is in baseball, because I think
all you need to have is a pitcher and a
couple of good pitchers, a decent bullpen, and one or

(11:21):
two pound hitters, and you can win a lot of
games in baseball. If you get a hot pitching staff,
you can beat anybody. Coastal Carolina won a College World
Series not long ago. Certain UTSA certainly has the coaching staff.
They do need to upgrade the bird bath a little bit,
but they have a lot of things going for them there.
But when you talk about schools like I just mentioned

(11:43):
in the American Conference, or the top dogs in Conference USA,
or the top schools in the Mountain West, you're talking
about one hundred and fifty to three hundred million dollars
in facilities improvements before it's all said and done, before
you're going to probably get the invitation to go to
the next level. In less there's other facilities in your
communities that you can use until you get to that level.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I think that's the only thing that's a tearing that.
But when it comes to scheduling, I do think that
especially with transfer portal and getting your NIL funded first,
now you have the ability to compete for play for players,
that could potentially give those power for schools a little
bit more challenged than they were thinking when they signed
those deals.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I think one. I think another thing the aspects of this,
because you brought up baseball for a second, I think
that this all is kind of a trickle down effect
to other sports, where that if the SEC is going
to implement a nine game schedule similar to with the
Big Ten the Big Twelve have had, that obviously means
the a SEC probably won't be that too far behind.
As of right now, we saw going.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
To stay at eight. They're staying at eight.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
But we look at what they also doing in college basketball,
where they're moving schedules from thirty two down to thirty
ES or or around that.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, now the basketball schedules are some conferences are going
to twenty conference games right now.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
This is the.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Ridiculousness of how they scheduled college basketball. You have to
play twenty nine games. So if the SEC is going
to play a twenty game conference schedule, I know the
American Conference for with it, they're going to stay at eighteen.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
But you can schedule.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Now eleven or nine depending on where you're at non
conference games. But then you can really actually play thirty
one games total. If three of those games are in
a multi team event tournament like around Thanksgiving or Christmas
or wherever, you can three games count as one, but
you have your capped at thirty one and you only
can play in one MTE. So but I think the

(13:32):
reason why the SEC wants to go to a twenty
game conference is because they got fourteen teams in the
basketball conference that went to the tournament last year, and
the more they can play each other, they're all going
to get better rated than if they play a non
conference team from another league that's not as good as
that conference.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, but not all fourteen of those teams really deserve
to be in the tournament.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I bet you they get twelve or fourteen again this year.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I wouldn't put it past them. That's because who owns
the media rights to the SEC? Well, who owns the
media right CBSP.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well? But CBS runs the conference tournament, right.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
But espnos the media rights, so they're going to hype
up the SEC, which gives them more, which gives them
more availability and basketball.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
You want if if the ACC has always been the
basketball conference, but you want North Carolina in the tournament
unless there's a reason for them not to be when
you got when the when North Carolina is on the bubble,
there has to be a reason to keep them out,
not a reason to put them in because people are
going to watch North Carolina play basketball that know nothing

(14:29):
about basketball, just because North Carolina has been the school
there of record in that league for so long.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
All Right?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
The Cowboys the Gambler and is Cowboys more on the
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