May 2, 2025 • 13 mins
Andy shares his favorite stories covering the Spurs in the Pop era.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We got all kinds of stuff to get to in
the next couple of hours, and thank you for spending
your day with us, wherever you may be. Story of
the day is that Greg Popovich is stepping down as
the head coach of the Spurs after twenty nine years
at the Helm, and Mitch Johnson will take over as
the full time coach is the twenty five to twenty
sixties and commences later this fall. We'll get into that
(00:24):
in a second here. Clippers force Game seven. Jalen Brun's
had a big basket last night for the Knicks to
beat the Pistons. Pistons kind of gave that game away.
And also the Rockets and Warriors play basketball this evening.
Rockets trying to force the game seven back in Houston.
They're going to have to win in San Francisco to
be able to do that. Obviously, the story of the
(00:45):
day and probably the month, and it's only a couple
of days old, is the fact that Coach pop has
stepped down.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I was mentioning earlier in the.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Last hour that this decision needed to be made sooner
rather than later because of all the planning that needs
to take place in the next two months, and not
that you can't build a roster and whoever's the coach
coaches them, but you got to define what the roles
are going to be going forward over the next six
months or five months before the season reassumes again in October.
(01:14):
And the most important thing I think is that is
that they know who the coach is. They know what
everybody's roles are going to be for the upcoming draft
and for free agency and all of those things that
they're going to have to do in the next sixty
to seventy days in preparation for the upcoming season. So
I'm not surprised that they made the decision. Listen, nobody
(01:35):
knew what the decision was until probably yesterday or the
day before, and most of the people that work at
the Spurs probably didn't know. Basketball ops probably did, the
whole family probably did, and the people that run the
basketball operation side probably got word of it. Victor wiman
Yama released a statement a little earlier basically saying, you know,
(01:56):
thank you for the time we've had together. I hope
we have more time together and I'll always love you.
That's kind of it in a nutshell. So, but I
think the players understand that it's there's always a time
for things to end, and for coach Pop, this is
what it ends right now, and we're gonna see what
Mitch Shanzon can do when he gets going into the
(02:17):
under his own regime starting in the fall. I do
wish that and I have not, as I said earlier,
in the last seven to eight to ten years, probably
not had a lot of interaction or any with Pop.
I did a lot back in the nineties when I
was covering the Spurs in the locker rooms and part
(02:38):
of the Spurs broadcast back in the day, and when
he was doing radio shows with us. I saw him
every week and always very nice to me. I've never
had an issue with him that we didn't settle in
about five seconds, and so we always I am one
that always agreed with him. On the end of quarter
coaches interviews, I still think there are always of time.
(03:01):
I don't understand what the purpose of them is. And
now you're seeing T and T get players to do
the end of quarter segments. There is such a limited
amount of time for coaches to gather their thoughts and
tell their players what they think of what just happened
and what they need to work on and what they
need to watch, and some are congenial doing it, and
(03:22):
some are not even thinking about what they're supposed to
say because their mind isn't there.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
There's a reason there's.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
A two minute or ten minute cooling off period at
all levels of sports for coaches before they meet with
the media. And you don't want to say something when
you're angry. You want to be able to actually cool
down and get your thoughts collected and know that there's
a bunch of questions coming that you're going to have
to answer them and how you're going to answer them,
(03:49):
and you want to address your team, and especially if
it's a tough loss or a playoff exit. You never
see the losing team get interviewed as they're walking off
the field.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
They all always they always wait.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's the team that's excited and exhilarating that just one
that gets off that gets the interviewed when they're when
they're leaving the field, or as the celebration is beginning,
super Bowl, NBA Championship, n Cuba, whatever it is, the loser,
losing team goes back to the locker room and leaves
the stage for the team that just won. And so
it's really difficult for those things to take place, and
(04:25):
I think Pop sometimes wonders what if what he says
is actually something that people care about, and especially fans.
I do think that there is a disconnect a lot
of times between the media and coaches, because I think
for the most part, the media is trying to disseminate
information to the fans, and they're the conduit that does
it between the coach and the players, the team and
(04:45):
the fans. But also at times they have their own
agendas because they want to write stories or they want
to sell something and get some dirt on somebody, and
unfortunately that happens way too often in the business. But
he steps to after twenty nine season. His legacy is amazing,
and you can pick and choose who you think is
(05:05):
the best coach of all time. But I'll preface this
when you start comparing any coach to Coach Pop, any
coached that it was successful as successful as he was,
or as close to being as successful as he was.
You never win with bad players. You always win with
with star players. And not only did he win with
star players, he knew how to manage them to where
they become lifelong friends.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, but it's not just managing star players. It's finding
those star players and continuing to develop them. Whereas you know,
if you want to say Phil Jackson is the greatest
of all time, you could make an argument that he
somewhat kind of developed you know, Jordan and Pippen and
Kerr and Ku Coach.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Along the way.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But when he got to LA, he didn't have to
develop Kobe. He didn't have to develop Shack. He didn't
have to get those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
To They were already were established. They just did. They
just needed direction, and they just needed a plan, They
needed a culture, they needed and I don't think even
I don't I think any coach could have coached Kobe
because you knew he was going to be there an
hour before practice and he was not leaving until everybody
else did. He was going to be the last first
one there and the last one out, and he was
going to train and he didn't drink and he didn't
(06:17):
go out and party all the time. He was dedicated
to his craft and there are very few players that
are in that in that situation. You know, I'll bet
you if you asked Steve Kerr who the better coach
was Pop or Phil Jackson, he would say, he would say,
they're both great, but in a different way. And there's
ways that Phil Jackson communicated with players that worked, and
(06:40):
there's ways that that Pop communicated with players that worked.
But I would think the common denominator was the ability
for Michael Jordan to be coached, for Kobe Bryant to
be coached, and for Pop and Kim and Tony to
be coached.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And if you are. You know a lot of.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Times people say, and I don't like this about golfers.
Golfers in this habit of well why or do I
need to go to instructor when the instructor can't beat me. Well,
the instructor can see things that you're not seeing. Yeah,
they'd be the golfer. Yeah, there's a lot of thing,
But that doesn't mean that they're not good teachers. I mean,
butch Harmon never could beat Tiger Woods if he got
twenty shots, but he keep training Tiger Woods and took
(07:19):
the talent that he had and honed it into the
greatest golf swing that ever did until Tiger started screwing
it up with all the all the tinkering that he did.
But that two thousand and two thousand and one swing
that Tiger had would have lasted for a lot longer
than the other ones that he had if he'd just
kept doing it. But he always wanted a tinker and
a lot of times the best players liked to tinker
with stuff. But that just because you didn't play the
(07:43):
game doesn't mean you can't coach the game. Just because
you didn't didn't battle against the same guys that you're
playing with, doesn't mean that you can't be a great coach.
And Pop was that he was able to communicate in
a way and then he had a and I'll say
this too, there's there's a lot of coaches that need
the right personality to be able to coach. Could pop
(08:06):
coach Lebron James absolutely, could pop put up with the
celebrity of Lebron James, he probably wouldn't want to. Could
pop cup coach Michael Jordan absolutely what he wanted? Michael
Jordan to take his own flight to games? Well, he's MJA.
I guess he could do whatever he wants, but he
probably wouldn't have liked it. And the fact that he
got with Tim Duncan and said, if you'll just listen
to me, I'll make you great. And Tim's like, I'll
(08:28):
do whatever you want, coach, let's just go. And when
the star player does whatever the coach wants, then the
rest of the team falls in line. If if Tim
Duncan missed a block, or Tim Duncan missed a pick
and roll or didn't and it was never about missing
a shot, because you're going to miss shots, but if
you did something fundamentally wrong and he called you out
for it, everybody else is on the bench going, man,
(08:49):
he's talking to our star like that star could leave
any time he wants. Man, I better not. I mean,
I may be cut tomorrow if I don't do what
he says. So the ability to be able to allow
yourself to be coached, and a lot of times when
you're an individual player and you're look at all the
people that he hired.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know, he coached.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
The shooting coach, Chip England, to be able to bring
in Chip England and say this Tony Parker guy over
here would be really great if he could shoot the basketball,
but he's been shooting it wrong his whole life. Teach
him how to shoot and then dissolve himself from that
and let an expert do what he did to surround yourself.
My guess is is Pop never micro manage anyone. I
(09:29):
got these assistants, these are their roles.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Go to your job.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
He got a problem, help let me know. And I
think that's something that a lot of people when they
get power or they get their own deal, it's not
you know, it's a collaborative effort.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's not about me, it's about we.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
How many times when Jordan Speed was actually playing good
golf did he say we when it came time to
winning tournaments? Well, he needs to change his grip and
he needs to change a bunch of things in his
swing and he'd be better, but he's too stubborn to
do so. But but he always said we, and he
referred to Michael Greller and Cam McCormick, his wing coach,
and to his family and the people that were training him.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It was a wee thing. And like you.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Said today, ten minutes after the announcement was out, we
knew he was coaching the team because it's not about Pop.
He'd gotten over himself a long time ago and was
putting the spotlight on someone else.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I will say this though, because you asked the or
proposed a question what had been would he he have
been able to, you know, coach Jordan or Lebron or
anybody of that celebrity nature. I give you Dennis Rodman.
If Pop was able to handle Dennis Rodman the way
that he was able to handle Dennis Rodman, there's nobody
(10:40):
in this league right now that Pop wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Able to handle. I'll give you a I don't know
if it's a secret anymore. I think it's been talked
about before. The reason coach that Pop didn't coach the
team when he was hired to be the general manager
is because of Dennis Rodman. Dennis Rodman needed two people
to handle him, and he needed somebody to handle him
off the court. That was Pop's roll. You needed somebody
to coach him, which was Bob Hill's role. And there
(11:04):
was a lot of people that still to this day
don't have it figured out why they fired Bob Hill.
But it was certainly the right decision to make. But
that was after Dennis was gone. You needed somebody. Dennis
was was crazy. He was literally crazy. And listen, I
sat next to him on an airplane for two hours.
Yeah about this, I was on an airplane with him,
(11:28):
and he didn't say a word for two hours. He
was offered a first class seat and he turned it down.
I had the bulkhead seat. I don't know where I
think I was going. I don't think I was going
to Dallas. I think it was going someplace that was
a little longer than that, but no, well, Houston shorter.
But it was an American flight, and it was after
(11:48):
a basketball game and.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Phoenix was off for three or four days.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So Barkley and Dan Marley and Kevin Johnson were in
first class and Dennis Rodman was the bull kit on
the left side, and I was in the bullhead on
the right side, and there was nobody in our other seats.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
The other there was there was.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We both had a window seat, so we were what
twelve feet apart, and I waved it tons because he
saw me in locker rooms when i'd go in there
and cover him. So I don't know if he knew
my name, but he recognized me and he acknowledged me.
And he was reading a book and Barkley and Kevin
Johnson and Dan Marley are in the front of the
plane and the flight attendant comes in and says mister Rudman,
(12:26):
there's an extra seat if you want to sit first, Alas,
because now I'm good.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
That's probably the most uncrazy thing I've ever heard about.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I was like, no, I don't want to go up
there and hang with those guys there on the other team.
But anyway, yeah, but that's that. That that to me
is part of his legacy. I want to play this
before we get out of this segment. This you talk
about your favorite and pop moment, and for many this
was it I want.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, that turned into T shirts. Yeah what A day
later on MIDI.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
The thing I liked the most about it was what
was said before that when he said it's the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's not supposed to be easy. I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
There's the line in a League of their Own when
Geena Davis is quitting and she goes, it's just too hard.
Tom Makes goes, it's supposed to be hard. That's what
makes it great, is that it's hard. If it was easy,
everybody could do it. Everybody can't do it. So yeah,
I want. The T shirts came out about twenty four
hours or less later. Now on Good Old Military Drive,
(13:32):
let's talk more about pop coming up here. In just
a bet, let's get into the NBA games from last
night and share some information about that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's all coming up next on the Ticket
We got all kinds of stuff to get to in
the next couple of hours, and thank you for spending
your day with us, wherever you may be. Story of
the day is that Greg Popovich is stepping down as
the head coach of the Spurs after twenty nine years
at the Helm, and Mitch Johnson will take over as
the full time coach is the twenty five to twenty
sixties and commences later this fall. We'll get into that
(00:24):
in a second here. Clippers force Game seven. Jalen Brun's
had a big basket last night for the Knicks to
beat the Pistons. Pistons kind of gave that game away.
And also the Rockets and Warriors play basketball this evening.
Rockets trying to force the game seven back in Houston.
They're going to have to win in San Francisco to
be able to do that. Obviously, the story of the
(00:45):
day and probably the month, and it's only a couple
of days old, is the fact that Coach pop has
stepped down.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I was mentioning earlier in the.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Last hour that this decision needed to be made sooner
rather than later because of all the planning that needs
to take place in the next two months, and not
that you can't build a roster and whoever's the coach
coaches them, but you got to define what the roles
are going to be going forward over the next six
months or five months before the season reassumes again in October.
(01:14):
And the most important thing I think is that is
that they know who the coach is. They know what
everybody's roles are going to be for the upcoming draft
and for free agency and all of those things that
they're going to have to do in the next sixty
to seventy days in preparation for the upcoming season. So
I'm not surprised that they made the decision. Listen, nobody
(01:35):
knew what the decision was until probably yesterday or the
day before, and most of the people that work at
the Spurs probably didn't know. Basketball ops probably did, the
whole family probably did, and the people that run the
basketball operation side probably got word of it. Victor wiman
Yama released a statement a little earlier basically saying, you know,
(01:56):
thank you for the time we've had together. I hope
we have more time together and I'll always love you.
That's kind of it in a nutshell. So, but I
think the players understand that it's there's always a time
for things to end, and for coach Pop, this is
what it ends right now, and we're gonna see what
Mitch Shanzon can do when he gets going into the
(02:17):
under his own regime starting in the fall. I do
wish that and I have not, as I said earlier,
in the last seven to eight to ten years, probably
not had a lot of interaction or any with Pop.
I did a lot back in the nineties when I
was covering the Spurs in the locker rooms and part
(02:38):
of the Spurs broadcast back in the day, and when
he was doing radio shows with us. I saw him
every week and always very nice to me. I've never
had an issue with him that we didn't settle in
about five seconds, and so we always I am one
that always agreed with him. On the end of quarter
coaches interviews, I still think there are always of time.
(03:01):
I don't understand what the purpose of them is. And
now you're seeing T and T get players to do
the end of quarter segments. There is such a limited
amount of time for coaches to gather their thoughts and
tell their players what they think of what just happened
and what they need to work on and what they
need to watch, and some are congenial doing it, and
(03:22):
some are not even thinking about what they're supposed to
say because their mind isn't there.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
There's a reason there's.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
A two minute or ten minute cooling off period at
all levels of sports for coaches before they meet with
the media. And you don't want to say something when
you're angry. You want to be able to actually cool
down and get your thoughts collected and know that there's
a bunch of questions coming that you're going to have
to answer them and how you're going to answer them,
(03:49):
and you want to address your team, and especially if
it's a tough loss or a playoff exit. You never
see the losing team get interviewed as they're walking off
the field.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
They all always they always wait.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's the team that's excited and exhilarating that just one
that gets off that gets the interviewed when they're when
they're leaving the field, or as the celebration is beginning,
super Bowl, NBA Championship, n Cuba, whatever it is, the loser,
losing team goes back to the locker room and leaves
the stage for the team that just won. And so
it's really difficult for those things to take place, and
(04:25):
I think Pop sometimes wonders what if what he says
is actually something that people care about, and especially fans.
I do think that there is a disconnect a lot
of times between the media and coaches, because I think
for the most part, the media is trying to disseminate
information to the fans, and they're the conduit that does
it between the coach and the players, the team and
(04:45):
the fans. But also at times they have their own
agendas because they want to write stories or they want
to sell something and get some dirt on somebody, and
unfortunately that happens way too often in the business. But
he steps to after twenty nine season. His legacy is amazing,
and you can pick and choose who you think is
(05:05):
the best coach of all time. But I'll preface this
when you start comparing any coach to Coach Pop, any
coached that it was successful as successful as he was,
or as close to being as successful as he was.
You never win with bad players. You always win with
with star players. And not only did he win with
star players, he knew how to manage them to where
they become lifelong friends.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, but it's not just managing star players. It's finding
those star players and continuing to develop them. Whereas you know,
if you want to say Phil Jackson is the greatest
of all time, you could make an argument that he
somewhat kind of developed you know, Jordan and Pippen and
Kerr and Ku Coach.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Along the way.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But when he got to LA, he didn't have to
develop Kobe. He didn't have to develop Shack. He didn't
have to get those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
To They were already were established. They just did. They
just needed direction, and they just needed a plan, They
needed a culture, they needed and I don't think even
I don't I think any coach could have coached Kobe
because you knew he was going to be there an
hour before practice and he was not leaving until everybody
else did. He was going to be the last first
one there and the last one out, and he was
going to train and he didn't drink and he didn't
(06:17):
go out and party all the time. He was dedicated
to his craft and there are very few players that
are in that in that situation. You know, I'll bet
you if you asked Steve Kerr who the better coach
was Pop or Phil Jackson, he would say, he would say,
they're both great, but in a different way. And there's
ways that Phil Jackson communicated with players that worked, and
(06:40):
there's ways that that Pop communicated with players that worked.
But I would think the common denominator was the ability
for Michael Jordan to be coached, for Kobe Bryant to
be coached, and for Pop and Kim and Tony to
be coached.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And if you are. You know a lot of.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Times people say, and I don't like this about golfers.
Golfers in this habit of well why or do I
need to go to instructor when the instructor can't beat me. Well,
the instructor can see things that you're not seeing. Yeah,
they'd be the golfer. Yeah, there's a lot of thing,
But that doesn't mean that they're not good teachers. I mean,
butch Harmon never could beat Tiger Woods if he got
twenty shots, but he keep training Tiger Woods and took
(07:19):
the talent that he had and honed it into the
greatest golf swing that ever did until Tiger started screwing
it up with all the all the tinkering that he did.
But that two thousand and two thousand and one swing
that Tiger had would have lasted for a lot longer
than the other ones that he had if he'd just
kept doing it. But he always wanted a tinker and
a lot of times the best players liked to tinker
with stuff. But that just because you didn't play the
(07:43):
game doesn't mean you can't coach the game. Just because
you didn't didn't battle against the same guys that you're
playing with, doesn't mean that you can't be a great coach.
And Pop was that he was able to communicate in
a way and then he had a and I'll say
this too, there's there's a lot of coaches that need
the right personality to be able to coach. Could pop
(08:06):
coach Lebron James absolutely, could pop put up with the
celebrity of Lebron James, he probably wouldn't want to. Could
pop cup coach Michael Jordan absolutely what he wanted? Michael
Jordan to take his own flight to games? Well, he's MJA.
I guess he could do whatever he wants, but he
probably wouldn't have liked it. And the fact that he
got with Tim Duncan and said, if you'll just listen
to me, I'll make you great. And Tim's like, I'll
(08:28):
do whatever you want, coach, let's just go. And when
the star player does whatever the coach wants, then the
rest of the team falls in line. If if Tim
Duncan missed a block, or Tim Duncan missed a pick
and roll or didn't and it was never about missing
a shot, because you're going to miss shots, but if
you did something fundamentally wrong and he called you out
for it, everybody else is on the bench going, man,
(08:49):
he's talking to our star like that star could leave
any time he wants. Man, I better not. I mean,
I may be cut tomorrow if I don't do what
he says. So the ability to be able to allow
yourself to be coached, and a lot of times when
you're an individual player and you're look at all the
people that he hired.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know, he coached.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
The shooting coach, Chip England, to be able to bring
in Chip England and say this Tony Parker guy over
here would be really great if he could shoot the basketball,
but he's been shooting it wrong his whole life. Teach
him how to shoot and then dissolve himself from that
and let an expert do what he did to surround yourself.
My guess is is Pop never micro manage anyone. I
(09:29):
got these assistants, these are their roles.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Go to your job.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
He got a problem, help let me know. And I
think that's something that a lot of people when they
get power or they get their own deal, it's not
you know, it's a collaborative effort.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's not about me, it's about we.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
How many times when Jordan Speed was actually playing good
golf did he say we when it came time to
winning tournaments? Well, he needs to change his grip and
he needs to change a bunch of things in his
swing and he'd be better, but he's too stubborn to
do so. But but he always said we, and he
referred to Michael Greller and Cam McCormick, his wing coach,
and to his family and the people that were training him.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It was a wee thing. And like you.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Said today, ten minutes after the announcement was out, we
knew he was coaching the team because it's not about Pop.
He'd gotten over himself a long time ago and was
putting the spotlight on someone else.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I will say this though, because you asked the or
proposed a question what had been would he he have
been able to, you know, coach Jordan or Lebron or
anybody of that celebrity nature. I give you Dennis Rodman.
If Pop was able to handle Dennis Rodman the way
that he was able to handle Dennis Rodman, there's nobody
(10:40):
in this league right now that Pop wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Able to handle. I'll give you a I don't know
if it's a secret anymore. I think it's been talked
about before. The reason coach that Pop didn't coach the
team when he was hired to be the general manager
is because of Dennis Rodman. Dennis Rodman needed two people
to handle him, and he needed somebody to handle him
off the court. That was Pop's roll. You needed somebody
to coach him, which was Bob Hill's role. And there
(11:04):
was a lot of people that still to this day
don't have it figured out why they fired Bob Hill.
But it was certainly the right decision to make. But
that was after Dennis was gone. You needed somebody. Dennis
was was crazy. He was literally crazy. And listen, I
sat next to him on an airplane for two hours.
Yeah about this, I was on an airplane with him,
(11:28):
and he didn't say a word for two hours. He
was offered a first class seat and he turned it down.
I had the bulkhead seat. I don't know where I
think I was going. I don't think I was going
to Dallas. I think it was going someplace that was
a little longer than that, but no, well, Houston shorter.
But it was an American flight, and it was after
(11:48):
a basketball game and.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Phoenix was off for three or four days.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So Barkley and Dan Marley and Kevin Johnson were in
first class and Dennis Rodman was the bull kit on
the left side, and I was in the bullhead on
the right side, and there was nobody in our other seats.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
The other there was there was.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We both had a window seat, so we were what
twelve feet apart, and I waved it tons because he
saw me in locker rooms when i'd go in there
and cover him. So I don't know if he knew
my name, but he recognized me and he acknowledged me.
And he was reading a book and Barkley and Kevin
Johnson and Dan Marley are in the front of the
plane and the flight attendant comes in and says mister Rudman,
(12:26):
there's an extra seat if you want to sit first, Alas,
because now I'm good.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
That's probably the most uncrazy thing I've ever heard about.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I was like, no, I don't want to go up
there and hang with those guys there on the other team.
But anyway, yeah, but that's that. That that to me
is part of his legacy. I want to play this
before we get out of this segment. This you talk
about your favorite and pop moment, and for many this
was it I want.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, that turned into T shirts. Yeah what A day
later on MIDI.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
The thing I liked the most about it was what
was said before that when he said it's the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's not supposed to be easy. I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
There's the line in a League of their Own when
Geena Davis is quitting and she goes, it's just too hard.
Tom Makes goes, it's supposed to be hard. That's what
makes it great, is that it's hard. If it was easy,
everybody could do it. Everybody can't do it. So yeah,
I want. The T shirts came out about twenty four
hours or less later. Now on Good Old Military Drive,
(13:32):
let's talk more about pop coming up here. In just
a bet, let's get into the NBA games from last
night and share some information about that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's all coming up next on the Ticket
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