July 7, 2025 • 8 mins
Predicting what the Spurs will one day pay their core players and how it factors into the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Continuing our discussion about the future of the NBA and
how these big time mega contracts, these supermax contracts are
going to affect teams. Give me panic, yea, and yeah,
I think, but I think it's something that we need
to get prepared for. And though one thing I think
is is the Dallas Mavericks may have been so far,
Nico Harrison may be the Let'll say it.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
He may be a super genius. Right, No, he is not.
He's not a super genius.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
He actually may have figured something out that why are
we going to give Luca that much money when we
don't know about his health in the future and his
work ethic, And yet we're going to have to move
him or we're going to have to move somebody at
some point to be able to field a roster. Because
I'll look at and not that I'm going to compare
any current spur to Luca for a number of reasons.
(00:52):
I don't think there's any comparison to be made. Let's
just project to twenty eight twenty nine. You got Darren
Fox at fifty seven million, but Sell in the last
year of his contract at twenty seven Dylan Harper in
the last year of his rookie deal at seventeen, Carter
Bryant at almost eight, Wimby potentially north of sixty five,
Castle north of fifty five, and Cornett at ten. So
(01:13):
that's two hundred and thirty nine million dollars between seven players.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Again, I think you're being a little a little too
dramatic with some of the numbers.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Could that potentially be.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
With the let's say I'm off by ten million a player,
we're still at two hundred, well at least with the
good players.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And that's ten million dollars less that we don't have
to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So now you're at two o two are two nine
and you're in.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The luxury tax this year was two six for the
second apron maybe it's two thirty. You're still, you know,
inching up towards that luxury tax as you fill out
your roster. I think the one thing that we're going
to see, and I think the first domino is going
to be what happens in Oklahoma City, which chet because
they're not going to get rid of JDub.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
The way the game is.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Played, wing players are far more important that than uh
they're they're far more important than post players.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Well but but if in that scenario, if Jdubb could
potentially get get you more in return, more draft picks
that they have, well point, you have to make a
trade and other and other potential players like you mentioned, Hey,
do we want to pay two players just you know.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
One hundred million dollars total?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Or do we only pay want to pay one player
and then potentially get three other two or three.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Pers I think that's well. I think it's going to
come down to this.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Either Home Grin or or Jadub is going to at
some point be traded, and when they are, the Oklahoma
City fans are going to have a similar reaction to
what the Dallas fans had with Luca, and the explanation
is going to be, well, we could have kept the
three together, paid the second Apron tax and field it
eight rookies on the team or minimum wage players. Minimum
(02:52):
wage varies depending on your years of eligibility and could
be as much as four million dollars a year. But
you're going to get and not I'm not taking anything
away from Chris Paul, but you're gonna get a Chris
Paul type player in his or a Kyle Lowry at
the end of his contract and you're gonna get around
the three stars, and you're gonna get a bunch of
rookies and a bunch of G League guys. Or we
(03:14):
can take Chet's fifty million or one of the spurs
fifty million dollar players and pass it along. In Oklahoma
City's case, it would give them the opportunity to pay
Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe lou Dort and anybody else that
they want to add to that roster in the future.
And I think that's something that these the general managers
are very concerned about because they're not exactly sure where
(03:38):
they're going to go with all this. And I think
that the we're going to see if the Spurs decide
to to to I'm out to the Spurs a thunder
try to move check.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, I think you'll get a we'll get a little
bit of indication on who gets signed first. Now again,
they don't have to sign them this year.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Jadub well, Jadub, I think is gonna is already h
well and talks talk yeah, yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I would say whoever gets signed first is the guy
that more than likely obviously at that point, is going
to be the one that they believe the long term
future is best for the organization because.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
You could still play play them both out.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You know, I think it's a little of a disservice
if you did it to j Dubb because he's only
only but he's only on the books for six point
five million, right Chet is still closer to fourteen. So
it's like, Okay, you still have a lot of value,
which you could potentially do in the off season, because
I don't think it's going to happen this season. I
think if you wanted to do a trade, you could
(04:41):
do it in the next year's off season. Would be
a sign in trade with with Chet Holmgren because because
right now it makes no sense for the Oklahoma City
Thunder to trade either one of those guys, because all
you have to go do is, hey, go give me
Kyle Lowry because he's probably only making five million.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
What if somebody offers you the farm for Chat Holmgren, Well, but.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Again the form of what it's you only have to
match thirteen point seven million dollars, there's no farm.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Or you could or yeah, well then I'm the farm is.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
A potential the number one like Cooper Flag just.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
For instance, like it's not our two players making seven million.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
That's why I think it's more along the.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Line, probably a next year thing. Yeah, it's I don't
think it's a sign and trade.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it's a sign and trade deal.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Or you or at some point during the season, if
you get the idea, you bring chet in and go listen,
we're gonna sign. We're going to give you the extension
now because we've got an offer for you to be traded. Now,
he can say, you know, I'll just become a but
he's a restricted free agent before he's a free agent.
So if he wants to make the super max money
or the max money, whatever that is, because super Max
(05:49):
only comes if you're able to do certain things in
terms of awards and accolades that you get as your
your year's accumulate. But I think this is going to
be every team is going to face this. I think
that's what you're saying in Boston right now. With the
fire sale that's going on there. They can't keep everybody
without paying six hundred million dollars. The Suns are are
(06:10):
going to probably buy out and waive Bradley Beal and
they cannot do. From what I've been told and what
the way I'm looking at this, they cannot do the
stretch deal that the Bucks did with Dame. There's a
provision in his contract where you can't do that. So
it is teams are starting to try to figure out
how they're going to build rosters for the future, and
it's going to be really interesting going forward.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, the other thing that they have to look not
look forward to, but that could be a little bit
of a reprieve is again we're under the notion of
right now the numbers that we are getting right now,
the NBA salary went up ten percent.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
It went up about fourteen.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Million, that's got and it goes up about ten percent
a year. So right now there's what's at one fifty
six I think is it's.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
At one four one fifty four points.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Next year it's one seventy two years, it's one ninety
and three years, it's still two hundred. But the luck
but I have a scenario in here with the current
salaries that seven players could be potentially making two hundred
and forty million, and even if the luxury tack goes
up five to ten percent over the next three or
four years, you're still going to be really close to
that second apron if not over it if you have
(07:16):
three or four guys making north of fifty million.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, well, let's just go into the scenario right now for
the twenty five to twenty six season. The first apron
is at one hundred and ninety five million dollars, the
second apron is at two oh seven. So let's just
say in what two or three years that number probably
goes up what thirty forty million?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I mean, this is basically what I've got on a
couple of different websites, but basically the payroll for the
Spurs this coming year, and some of this is not guaranteed,
but most of it is is one hundred and seventy
three million, And so they're over the cap but they're
not at the first apron yet. Yeah, And that's where
you could live for quite a while. You can be
over the cap, but you're not paying a lot of
luxury tacks because you're not at that first apron, and
(07:58):
you still have flexibility. It's what you are hitting those
aprons that you can get yourself in some hot water.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And again, it's all dependent on what the owners the
governors want to do. Are they willing to, you know,
shell out the money to pay the luxury and things
like that. Then more power to them. But what do
I always tell you how to rich people stay rich?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Andy?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They don't spend money.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And we sit here and like, wow, that billionaire sold
that for that much. You're a billionaire, But yet you
don't want to spend money.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
But I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You start to see money going down the drain, you're like, well,
I'm only worth two point nine billion, not three.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Sell the farm, yeah, sell something, all right, more coming up,
it's the Andy Everage Show.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
On the ticket
Continuing our discussion about the future of the NBA and
how these big time mega contracts, these supermax contracts are
going to affect teams. Give me panic, yea, and yeah,
I think, but I think it's something that we need
to get prepared for. And though one thing I think
is is the Dallas Mavericks may have been so far,
Nico Harrison may be the Let'll say it.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
He may be a super genius. Right, No, he is not.
He's not a super genius.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
He actually may have figured something out that why are
we going to give Luca that much money when we
don't know about his health in the future and his
work ethic, And yet we're going to have to move
him or we're going to have to move somebody at
some point to be able to field a roster. Because
I'll look at and not that I'm going to compare
any current spur to Luca for a number of reasons.
(00:52):
I don't think there's any comparison to be made. Let's
just project to twenty eight twenty nine. You got Darren
Fox at fifty seven million, but Sell in the last
year of his contract at twenty seven Dylan Harper in
the last year of his rookie deal at seventeen, Carter
Bryant at almost eight, Wimby potentially north of sixty five,
Castle north of fifty five, and Cornett at ten. So
(01:13):
that's two hundred and thirty nine million dollars between seven players.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Again, I think you're being a little a little too
dramatic with some of the numbers.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Could that potentially be.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
With the let's say I'm off by ten million a player,
we're still at two hundred, well at least with the
good players.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And that's ten million dollars less that we don't have
to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So now you're at two o two are two nine
and you're in.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The luxury tax this year was two six for the
second apron maybe it's two thirty. You're still, you know,
inching up towards that luxury tax as you fill out
your roster. I think the one thing that we're going
to see, and I think the first domino is going
to be what happens in Oklahoma City, which chet because
they're not going to get rid of JDub.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
The way the game is.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Played, wing players are far more important that than uh
they're they're far more important than post players.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Well but but if in that scenario, if Jdubb could
potentially get get you more in return, more draft picks
that they have, well point, you have to make a
trade and other and other potential players like you mentioned, Hey,
do we want to pay two players just you know.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
One hundred million dollars total?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Or do we only pay want to pay one player
and then potentially get three other two or three.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Pers I think that's well. I think it's going to
come down to this.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Either Home Grin or or Jadub is going to at
some point be traded, and when they are, the Oklahoma
City fans are going to have a similar reaction to
what the Dallas fans had with Luca, and the explanation
is going to be, well, we could have kept the
three together, paid the second Apron tax and field it
eight rookies on the team or minimum wage players. Minimum
(02:52):
wage varies depending on your years of eligibility and could
be as much as four million dollars a year. But
you're going to get and not I'm not taking anything
away from Chris Paul, but you're gonna get a Chris
Paul type player in his or a Kyle Lowry at
the end of his contract and you're gonna get around
the three stars, and you're gonna get a bunch of
rookies and a bunch of G League guys. Or we
(03:14):
can take Chet's fifty million or one of the spurs
fifty million dollar players and pass it along. In Oklahoma
City's case, it would give them the opportunity to pay
Cason Wallace, Isaiah Joe lou Dort and anybody else that
they want to add to that roster in the future.
And I think that's something that these the general managers
are very concerned about because they're not exactly sure where
(03:38):
they're going to go with all this. And I think
that the we're going to see if the Spurs decide
to to to I'm out to the Spurs a thunder
try to move check.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, I think you'll get a we'll get a little
bit of indication on who gets signed first. Now again,
they don't have to sign them this year.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Jadub well, Jadub, I think is gonna is already h
well and talks talk yeah, yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I would say whoever gets signed first is the guy
that more than likely obviously at that point, is going
to be the one that they believe the long term
future is best for the organization because.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
You could still play play them both out.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You know, I think it's a little of a disservice
if you did it to j Dubb because he's only
only but he's only on the books for six point
five million, right Chet is still closer to fourteen. So
it's like, Okay, you still have a lot of value,
which you could potentially do in the off season, because
I don't think it's going to happen this season. I
think if you wanted to do a trade, you could
(04:41):
do it in the next year's off season. Would be
a sign in trade with with Chet Holmgren because because
right now it makes no sense for the Oklahoma City
Thunder to trade either one of those guys, because all
you have to go do is, hey, go give me
Kyle Lowry because he's probably only making five million.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
What if somebody offers you the farm for Chat Holmgren, Well, but.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Again the form of what it's you only have to
match thirteen point seven million dollars, there's no farm.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Or you could or yeah, well then I'm the farm is.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
A potential the number one like Cooper Flag just.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
For instance, like it's not our two players making seven million.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
That's why I think it's more along the.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Line, probably a next year thing. Yeah, it's I don't
think it's a sign and trade.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it's a sign and trade deal.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Or you or at some point during the season, if
you get the idea, you bring chet in and go listen,
we're gonna sign. We're going to give you the extension
now because we've got an offer for you to be traded. Now,
he can say, you know, I'll just become a but
he's a restricted free agent before he's a free agent.
So if he wants to make the super max money
or the max money, whatever that is, because super Max
(05:49):
only comes if you're able to do certain things in
terms of awards and accolades that you get as your
your year's accumulate. But I think this is going to
be every team is going to face this. I think
that's what you're saying in Boston right now. With the
fire sale that's going on there. They can't keep everybody
without paying six hundred million dollars. The Suns are are
(06:10):
going to probably buy out and waive Bradley Beal and
they cannot do. From what I've been told and what
the way I'm looking at this, they cannot do the
stretch deal that the Bucks did with Dame. There's a
provision in his contract where you can't do that. So
it is teams are starting to try to figure out
how they're going to build rosters for the future, and
it's going to be really interesting going forward.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, the other thing that they have to look not
look forward to, but that could be a little bit
of a reprieve is again we're under the notion of
right now the numbers that we are getting right now,
the NBA salary went up ten percent.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
It went up about fourteen.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Million, that's got and it goes up about ten percent
a year. So right now there's what's at one fifty
six I think is it's.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
At one four one fifty four points.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Next year it's one seventy two years, it's one ninety
and three years, it's still two hundred. But the luck
but I have a scenario in here with the current
salaries that seven players could be potentially making two hundred
and forty million, and even if the luxury tack goes
up five to ten percent over the next three or
four years, you're still going to be really close to
that second apron if not over it if you have
(07:16):
three or four guys making north of fifty million.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, well, let's just go into the scenario right now for
the twenty five to twenty six season. The first apron
is at one hundred and ninety five million dollars, the
second apron is at two oh seven. So let's just
say in what two or three years that number probably
goes up what thirty forty million?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I mean, this is basically what I've got on a
couple of different websites, but basically the payroll for the
Spurs this coming year, and some of this is not guaranteed,
but most of it is is one hundred and seventy
three million, And so they're over the cap but they're
not at the first apron yet. Yeah, And that's where
you could live for quite a while. You can be
over the cap, but you're not paying a lot of
luxury tacks because you're not at that first apron, and
(07:58):
you still have flexibility. It's what you are hitting those
aprons that you can get yourself in some hot water.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And again, it's all dependent on what the owners the
governors want to do. Are they willing to, you know,
shell out the money to pay the luxury and things
like that. Then more power to them. But what do
I always tell you how to rich people stay rich?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Andy?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They don't spend money.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And we sit here and like, wow, that billionaire sold
that for that much. You're a billionaire, But yet you
don't want to spend money.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
But I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You start to see money going down the drain, you're like, well,
I'm only worth two point nine billion, not three.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Sell the farm, yeah, sell something, all right, more coming up,
it's the Andy Everage Show.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
On the ticket
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