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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Thank you for spending your afternoon with us wherever you
may be.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Andy Everich, and we've got Shane Carter and Michael
Bartlett along as well today and again thanking you for
joining us on the show. Last week, the Coaches Poll
came out. This week the AP pole comes out. Am
I right in saying this, Texas has never been a
preseason number one in the AP pole.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I thought I saw that today. Yeah, you are correct,
they have not. They've been to the party.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
It's preseason.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Who cares, man, I mean, if we're going to be optimistic, yes,
I would love for them to be number one at
the end of the year when it actually matters, but
usually the preseason it doesn't bode.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well from the number one team.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, I would imagine that most of the teams that
are in the top five are going to be in
the top twelve by the time December rolls around, and
we're going to have a pretty good chance of most
of those teams, you know, getting to the College Football playoff. However,
I do need to bring this up because I don't
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know if there's a better way of scheduling or not,
but Texas plays this year in league play. They play
four teams that are in the top twenty five, and
then they have the Ohio State Game, so they play
five top twenty five preseason teams. Georgia plays five, Alabama
plays five A and M plays five, Ole Miss plays five,
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South Carolina plays six, Tennessee plays four, LSU, and OU
play seven.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Again, Murderers row for you and your sooners.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well any LSU Tiger fans that are out there too.
You've got seven of your twelve games against top twenty
five teams when the season begins. Now, obviously some of
those teams will fall out before you play them, or
will certainly drop before you play them. But I could
see a scenario where most of those teams, and the SEC,
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by the way, has ten.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Teams in the top twenty five.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Ten, one zero. I wonder why it just matters more here?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
What isn't the SEC and the Big ten just play
for the national championship every year?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Does anybody else really matter?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You know, if they would listen to us on the
free iHeartRadio app where you can set tickets seventy sixty
years a preset, they would understand that, you know, we've
been harping on it for the past What couple of months,
just separate acc We'll throw in the Big twelve as
a bone, you know, and then just big ten sec
and that's it.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You have those four conferences.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They can play for the quote unquote national championship, the big.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
One, and then everybody else you can have your own.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So here's your top teams.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And there's a little bit of difference between the AP
and the coaches poul like it really matters at this stage.
But we all like polls and we like to know
where our teams are. It's Texas, Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson,
and Georgia in the top five. Georgia, Oregon, Alabama, LSU, Miami, next,
Arizona State, Illinois, South Carolina, Michigan, Florida the next five SMU,
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Kansas State, ou A, and m Indiana through number twenty
and then Mississippi, Iowa State, Texas Tech, Tennessee, and Boise.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Those are your top twenty five teams.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And yet, and yet, Shane, he keeps harping on the
fact that South Carolina socks, Kansas State sucks. I'm a
little surprised that your Sooners are eighteen. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I'm a little celerated better, vastly over compared to last year,
vastly over righty. Now, now they have a new coordinator
on offense. Uh huh, they have a new quarterback that'll
supposedly be you know all that and uh and lead
us lead them back to prosperity.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, it's the Washington State, right, Shane. Yes, what was
his name, John Mattier?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, that guy.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, he's no general.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They don't play utsa, so I haven't looked at their
roster in Depthy, General Booty man better not be General
Booty or we're going to sit him on down the
road where General Booty.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Is a general.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Booty was a lot better than Jackson Arnold. Just gonna
put it out there. Spencer Rattler was better than Jackson Arnold.
Wow wow, And yet you hate it on Spencer Ratley
when he turncoat and rightfully turncoaded.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I didn't have to turn coat on me.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I was gladly he left because he sucked then and
he sucks now.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'm actually a little surprised that, at least in the
AP that they have Penn State as number two, because
I know when the coaches they were flip floped.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, it's one of the reasons.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I'm not saying that the voters did this on purpose,
but Texas Ohio State gives people on opening day to
say we've got a one to two match up to.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Start the year.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Of course, I just I don't see it with Penn State.
We talked about it last week very briefly. I'm sorry,
but Drew Rowler to me, is not an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, he probably will be an NFL quarterback along the
the same lines of JJ McCarthy and Rock Purdy. I
think he's that good, but I don't expect him to
I don't expect him to win games when the roster
is not very good. And as a side note, when
you look at San Francisco this year with the injuries
that they have, and I guess Brandon i Hook's getting better,
but he's still aways off.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, Shanahan said he's not going to be ready at
least until Week six.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But they don't have a great wide receiver corps. Their
offensive line is aging, although Spencer Burford's still there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And I just don't think that.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I don't see how that offense scores twenty points a game.
And if you're not scoring twenty points a game, you're
gonna lose more often than not because your defense can't
keep the other team from scoring twenty one.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So but anyway, the.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Teams I think that are a little overrated and a
little underrated.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Notre Dame no.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I think Notre Dame is right where they should be,
and they'll probably be finished eleven and one and they'll
get into the playoff. I don't know which one they'll
lose to, but they always wet the bet against somebody.
I think Clemson is overrated. I'm not buying the Clemson
story until Dabo Sweeney jumps in with both feet and
headfirst into the transfer portal in the NIL, which they've got.
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I guess a little bit more, but I'm not sold
on Clemson. I think they'll still be one of the
top twelve teams. I just don't think they're the fourth
best team in the country. I think SMU is underrated
at sixteen, and I think SMU is doing everything they
can to buy a football team, and they're the best
that's ever done when it was illegal, and they're going
to do it illegally. And I've said this a long time.
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The only school in the area that's going to be
able to outspend them is Texas, and that's because there's
just as many Texas x's as there are the SMU
guys and the SMU people. They have a different swagger
than everybody else. They think they're better than you are,
and they're not afraid to tell you that they're better
than you are.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Am I wrong? I don't know, maybe, Shane, am I wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
No, They're very like Ridge Peron and arrogant. They're eighties
popular kid arrogant, Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
The.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Laminated uh and so uh you know, and well in
the eighties when they had Eric Dickerson and and uh
and James and those guys they were they were great.
And if they could have paid players in the nineties
and two thousands, they would have been great.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Then.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Uh, I don't know that you. I don't know why you.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
SMU is a very expensive place to live, and it's
a very expensive place to go.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
To Bryce and to Shamba went to SMU.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh yeah, that's right, Bryce and to Shambo's got a
little of that SMU arrogance.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So from time to.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Time, yeah, I would say, so he's got.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
A little bit of that. And it's fine if you.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I mean, I'm all for arrogance if you can back
it up a little bit. But now they're good and listen,
I think SMU will be.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I can't say they're going to be a national champion
in football, but they're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
They're gonna be up there every year and they're.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Gonna be one of the three teams in the ACC
that is going to dominate. And to show you how
arrogant they were and how sure of themselves they were.
When the ACC said we don't want to let you
in because we don't want to share the TV revenue
with you, they said, we don't care. We'll forego the
TV revenue until the new contract happens in twenty thirty two.
And then a week later they had one hundred million
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extra dollars to cover the TV the TV loss.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
They're like, sorry, your money, we don't need your money.
We got our own money.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You think ESPN and and ABC can give you money.
We got people that are richer than they are.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah. I actually believe Andy in this day and age
now with nil, I think SMU has a legit shot
we saw last year.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Oh I do too.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I think they can't get to a.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
National I don't know that they'll beta Texas, Georgia and
Alabama and you know, Oregon maybe, and as they move forward,
but they're gonna get close.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And they have a u.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Of a for a school that was down and out
after the death penalty in eighty eight and down and
out for most of the nineties and just kind of
there for the last you know, ten or fifteen years,
they're going to be a dominant team. And I mean,
I like the way they played last year, and I
saw a couple of I didn't see whole games. The
game that they lost in the ACC Championship game to Clemson.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think that game. But they.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think they're gonna be good. I think they're gonna
be good for a long time. And they know that
now that the gloves are off, and they figure they
can fundraise better than everybody. And they've got a lot
of alumni who have deep pockets. So you can't deny
that either.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well, and that's why I asked you the question, just because, now,
why do you not think that they can't compete?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I believe they can because they can.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Do what we're already seeing it up in Lubbock with
Shane's tech attachs. You can pay these players, and especially
these top five or the ESPN Top three hundred. You
get these players in your program, you get good coaching there.
Who's to say that they cannot compete. I think they can.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
If you're an up and coming coach and SMU knocks
on your door because because the current coach or previous
coach or coach of the future isn't doing it as
well as say as the boosters want. And you think
that you're good enough to know, if you're a good recruiter,
if you're a good manager of people, you should go there. Absolutely,
(10:19):
you should go there because you're going to get paid
a lot and you're never going to have to be
told no when it comes to what money to go.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
For recruit somebody.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Hey, this guy wants to go to Texas and he's
getting one hundred thousand. I need one hundred and twenty five.
The check will be on the in the in the
mailbox before you can click on the app to find
out how much money you got.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, I mean at least SMU now and Shane's Red
Raiders there. The fact that they can legally now pay
for players to get the.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Why else would you go to Lubbock?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Well, exactly, but they are caring now.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's hey, yeah, we're not just trying to pay players
to get a couple here and there. They want to
shell out the money to make their teams relevant because
they care and want the teams to be at winning.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
They want to win, and that now they're no longer.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And listen, in the eighties, they couldn't beat Texas. They
could not recruit OU, they could not out recruit.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
A and M.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
They were not a blue blood program that could go
out there and say we're gonna win and do it
fair and square. The only way they could win was
to cheat and then they and they got caught and
they paid the ultimate price for it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But now that the gloves are off.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
They and they feel like the playing field is certainly
more fair for them. And because of the of the
support they have from their alumni base, they're going to
be able to win and they're going to let you
know it when they win too.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And this is the difference in the recruiting and the
nil with you know, like with SMU and Texas Tech.
And I hate to throw a shot a little bit
at Dion, but if you were going to transfer to
Colorado because of Dion. You're not going there because you
think you compete or you can win. It's hey, I'm
going to get more notoriety from myself to again Dan
(11:59):
Lanning famous, he said last year they cared more about clicks.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
You're going to Texas Tech.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Now you're going to SMU because they are like, hey,
we're paying you guys because we want to compete every
single year.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
The same thing like with with UTSA.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You can go to a bigger conference, but more likely
you're going to be the third fourth best team you
stay in these the ACP.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
If UTSA has can compete every year.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
If UTSA had the alumni base that SMU and Texas
Tech does in terms of alumni with money, they'd be
in the fight too. They'd be in the national champ
And it's amazing what they've done without it, But if
they had it, they'd be They would, it would, and
it's level of the playing field for all the schools
because if your school has an alumni base that really
cares about its programs, you're going to have a great
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chance to be good for a long time. All right,
One other quick note on this college football landscape. Each Warner,
son of Kurt Warner. Two years ago. UTSA beat him
at Temple last year. He did not get called for
intentional grounding on the last drive of the the of
the game, and he was able to parlay that into
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a touchdown winning drive.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So U T. S A has seen EJ one or twice.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Unless they play Fresno State this year, they're not going
to be he won't have to play them again. But
EJ one is going to be his third different school
in three years. I'm just at some point that can't
do we don't We have to make sure that there's
some progress towards academic uh acceleration or achievement or something.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I mean, dj Ugilelean that's how I say.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I know it's incorrect, but I mean he was on
seven six or seven.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I saw that earlier.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
The Syracuse Orange had a transfer who is now in
his eighth year of eligibility.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Andy. That's the nature of he.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Had the COVID year.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
You had an injury year, then you get a medical year,
then you get another medical year, then.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You get four years.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So that's how you get to I think somebody I
think I think the tight end at Miami that Miami
had nine.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I think he had or ten, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Jerry Jones, The Gambler and his Cowboys. It's a Netflix
show that's going to start up on August nineteenth, or
I guess it's a documentary.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
We'll discuss next. It's the Andy Evertge Show On the
Ticket
Thank you for spending your afternoon with us wherever you
may be.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Andy Everich, and we've got Shane Carter and Michael
Bartlett along as well today and again thanking you for
joining us on the show. Last week, the Coaches Poll
came out. This week the AP pole comes out. Am
I right in saying this, Texas has never been a
preseason number one in the AP pole.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I thought I saw that today. Yeah, you are correct,
they have not. They've been to the party.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
It's preseason.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Who cares, man, I mean, if we're going to be optimistic, yes,
I would love for them to be number one at
the end of the year when it actually matters, but
usually the preseason it doesn't bode.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well from the number one team.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, I would imagine that most of the teams that
are in the top five are going to be in
the top twelve by the time December rolls around, and
we're going to have a pretty good chance of most
of those teams, you know, getting to the College Football playoff. However,
I do need to bring this up because I don't
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know if there's a better way of scheduling or not,
but Texas plays this year in league play. They play
four teams that are in the top twenty five, and
then they have the Ohio State Game, so they play
five top twenty five preseason teams. Georgia plays five, Alabama
plays five A and M plays five, Ole Miss plays five,
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South Carolina plays six, Tennessee plays four, LSU, and OU
play seven.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Again, Murderers row for you and your sooners.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well any LSU Tiger fans that are out there too.
You've got seven of your twelve games against top twenty
five teams when the season begins. Now, obviously some of
those teams will fall out before you play them, or
will certainly drop before you play them. But I could
see a scenario where most of those teams, and the SEC,
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by the way, has ten.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Teams in the top twenty five.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Ten, one zero. I wonder why it just matters more here?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
What isn't the SEC and the Big ten just play
for the national championship every year?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Does anybody else really matter?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You know, if they would listen to us on the
free iHeartRadio app where you can set tickets seventy sixty
years a preset, they would understand that, you know, we've
been harping on it for the past What couple of months,
just separate acc We'll throw in the Big twelve as
a bone, you know, and then just big ten sec
and that's it.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You have those four conferences.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They can play for the quote unquote national championship, the big.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
One, and then everybody else you can have your own.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So here's your top teams.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And there's a little bit of difference between the AP
and the coaches poul like it really matters at this stage.
But we all like polls and we like to know
where our teams are. It's Texas, Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson,
and Georgia in the top five. Georgia, Oregon, Alabama, LSU, Miami, next,
Arizona State, Illinois, South Carolina, Michigan, Florida the next five SMU,
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Kansas State, ou A, and m Indiana through number twenty
and then Mississippi, Iowa State, Texas Tech, Tennessee, and Boise.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Those are your top twenty five teams.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And yet, and yet, Shane, he keeps harping on the
fact that South Carolina socks, Kansas State sucks. I'm a
little surprised that your Sooners are eighteen. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I'm a little celerated better, vastly over compared to last year,
vastly over righty. Now, now they have a new coordinator
on offense. Uh huh, they have a new quarterback that'll
supposedly be you know all that and uh and lead
us lead them back to prosperity.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, it's the Washington State, right, Shane. Yes, what was
his name, John Mattier?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, that guy.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, he's no general.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They don't play utsa, so I haven't looked at their
roster in Depthy, General Booty man better not be General
Booty or we're going to sit him on down the
road where General Booty.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Is a general.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Booty was a lot better than Jackson Arnold. Just gonna
put it out there. Spencer Rattler was better than Jackson Arnold.
Wow wow, And yet you hate it on Spencer Ratley
when he turncoat and rightfully turncoaded.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I didn't have to turn coat on me.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I was gladly he left because he sucked then and
he sucks now.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'm actually a little surprised that, at least in the
AP that they have Penn State as number two, because
I know when the coaches they were flip floped.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, it's one of the reasons.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I'm not saying that the voters did this on purpose,
but Texas Ohio State gives people on opening day to
say we've got a one to two match up to.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Start the year.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Of course, I just I don't see it with Penn State.
We talked about it last week very briefly. I'm sorry,
but Drew Rowler to me, is not an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, he probably will be an NFL quarterback along the
the same lines of JJ McCarthy and Rock Purdy. I
think he's that good, but I don't expect him to
I don't expect him to win games when the roster
is not very good. And as a side note, when
you look at San Francisco this year with the injuries
that they have, and I guess Brandon i Hook's getting better,
but he's still aways off.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, Shanahan said he's not going to be ready at
least until Week six.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But they don't have a great wide receiver corps. Their
offensive line is aging, although Spencer Burford's still there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And I just don't think that.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I don't see how that offense scores twenty points a game.
And if you're not scoring twenty points a game, you're
gonna lose more often than not because your defense can't
keep the other team from scoring twenty one.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So but anyway, the.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Teams I think that are a little overrated and a
little underrated.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Notre Dame no.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I think Notre Dame is right where they should be,
and they'll probably be finished eleven and one and they'll
get into the playoff. I don't know which one they'll
lose to, but they always wet the bet against somebody.
I think Clemson is overrated. I'm not buying the Clemson
story until Dabo Sweeney jumps in with both feet and
headfirst into the transfer portal in the NIL, which they've got.
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I guess a little bit more, but I'm not sold
on Clemson. I think they'll still be one of the
top twelve teams. I just don't think they're the fourth
best team in the country. I think SMU is underrated
at sixteen, and I think SMU is doing everything they
can to buy a football team, and they're the best
that's ever done when it was illegal, and they're going
to do it illegally. And I've said this a long time.
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The only school in the area that's going to be
able to outspend them is Texas, and that's because there's
just as many Texas x's as there are the SMU
guys and the SMU people. They have a different swagger
than everybody else. They think they're better than you are,
and they're not afraid to tell you that they're better
than you are.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Am I wrong? I don't know, maybe, Shane, am I wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
No, They're very like Ridge Peron and arrogant. They're eighties
popular kid arrogant, Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
The.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Laminated uh and so uh you know, and well in
the eighties when they had Eric Dickerson and and uh
and James and those guys they were they were great.
And if they could have paid players in the nineties
and two thousands, they would have been great.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Then.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Uh, I don't know that you. I don't know why you.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
SMU is a very expensive place to live, and it's
a very expensive place to go.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
To Bryce and to Shamba went to SMU.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh yeah, that's right, Bryce and to Shambo's got a
little of that SMU arrogance.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So from time to.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Time, yeah, I would say, so he's got.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
A little bit of that. And it's fine if you.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I mean, I'm all for arrogance if you can back
it up a little bit. But now they're good and listen,
I think SMU will be.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I can't say they're going to be a national champion
in football, but they're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
They're gonna be up there every year and they're.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Gonna be one of the three teams in the ACC
that is going to dominate. And to show you how
arrogant they were and how sure of themselves they were.
When the ACC said we don't want to let you
in because we don't want to share the TV revenue
with you, they said, we don't care. We'll forego the
TV revenue until the new contract happens in twenty thirty two.
And then a week later they had one hundred million
(08:16):
extra dollars to cover the TV the TV loss.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
They're like, sorry, your money, we don't need your money.
We got our own money.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You think ESPN and and ABC can give you money.
We got people that are richer than they are.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah. I actually believe Andy in this day and age
now with nil, I think SMU has a legit shot
we saw last year.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Oh I do too.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I think they can't get to a.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
National I don't know that they'll beta Texas, Georgia and
Alabama and you know, Oregon maybe, and as they move forward,
but they're gonna get close.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And they have a u.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Of a for a school that was down and out
after the death penalty in eighty eight and down and
out for most of the nineties and just kind of
there for the last you know, ten or fifteen years,
they're going to be a dominant team. And I mean,
I like the way they played last year, and I
saw a couple of I didn't see whole games. The
game that they lost in the ACC Championship game to Clemson.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think that game. But they.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think they're gonna be good. I think they're gonna
be good for a long time. And they know that
now that the gloves are off, and they figure they
can fundraise better than everybody. And they've got a lot
of alumni who have deep pockets. So you can't deny
that either.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Well, and that's why I asked you the question, just because, now,
why do you not think that they can't compete?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I believe they can because they can.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Do what we're already seeing it up in Lubbock with
Shane's tech attachs. You can pay these players, and especially
these top five or the ESPN Top three hundred. You
get these players in your program, you get good coaching there.
Who's to say that they cannot compete. I think they can.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
If you're an up and coming coach and SMU knocks
on your door because because the current coach or previous
coach or coach of the future isn't doing it as
well as say as the boosters want. And you think
that you're good enough to know, if you're a good recruiter,
if you're a good manager of people, you should go there. Absolutely,
(10:19):
you should go there because you're going to get paid
a lot and you're never going to have to be
told no when it comes to what money to go.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
For recruit somebody.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Hey, this guy wants to go to Texas and he's
getting one hundred thousand. I need one hundred and twenty five.
The check will be on the in the in the
mailbox before you can click on the app to find
out how much money you got.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, I mean at least SMU now and Shane's Red
Raiders there. The fact that they can legally now pay
for players to get the.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Why else would you go to Lubbock?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Well, exactly, but they are caring now.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's hey, yeah, we're not just trying to pay players
to get a couple here and there. They want to
shell out the money to make their teams relevant because
they care and want the teams to be at winning.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
They want to win, and that now they're no longer.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And listen, in the eighties, they couldn't beat Texas. They
could not recruit OU, they could not out recruit.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
A and M.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
They were not a blue blood program that could go
out there and say we're gonna win and do it
fair and square. The only way they could win was
to cheat and then they and they got caught and
they paid the ultimate price for it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But now that the gloves are off.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
They and they feel like the playing field is certainly
more fair for them. And because of the of the
support they have from their alumni base, they're going to
be able to win and they're going to let you
know it when they win too.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And this is the difference in the recruiting and the
nil with you know, like with SMU and Texas Tech.
And I hate to throw a shot a little bit
at Dion, but if you were going to transfer to
Colorado because of Dion. You're not going there because you
think you compete or you can win. It's hey, I'm
going to get more notoriety from myself to again Dan
(11:59):
Lanning famous, he said last year they cared more about clicks.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
You're going to Texas Tech.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Now you're going to SMU because they are like, hey,
we're paying you guys because we want to compete every
single year.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
The same thing like with with UTSA.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You can go to a bigger conference, but more likely
you're going to be the third fourth best team you
stay in these the ACP.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
If UTSA has can compete every year.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
If UTSA had the alumni base that SMU and Texas
Tech does in terms of alumni with money, they'd be
in the fight too. They'd be in the national champ
And it's amazing what they've done without it, But if
they had it, they'd be They would, it would, and
it's level of the playing field for all the schools
because if your school has an alumni base that really
cares about its programs, you're going to have a great
(12:47):
chance to be good for a long time. All right,
One other quick note on this college football landscape. Each Warner,
son of Kurt Warner. Two years ago. UTSA beat him
at Temple last year. He did not get called for
intentional grounding on the last drive of the the of
the game, and he was able to parlay that into
(13:08):
a touchdown winning drive.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So U T. S A has seen EJ one or twice.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Unless they play Fresno State this year, they're not going
to be he won't have to play them again. But
EJ one is going to be his third different school
in three years. I'm just at some point that can't
do we don't We have to make sure that there's
some progress towards academic uh acceleration or achievement or something.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I mean, dj Ugilelean that's how I say.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I know it's incorrect, but I mean he was on
seven six or seven.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I saw that earlier.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
The Syracuse Orange had a transfer who is now in
his eighth year of eligibility.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Andy. That's the nature of he.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Had the COVID year.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
You had an injury year, then you get a medical year,
then you get another medical year, then.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You get four years.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So that's how you get to I think somebody I
think I think the tight end at Miami that Miami
had nine.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I think he had or ten, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Jerry Jones, The Gambler and his Cowboys. It's a Netflix
show that's going to start up on August nineteenth, or
I guess it's a documentary.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
We'll discuss next. It's the Andy Evertge Show On the
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