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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Thank you for being part of the show today.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
NBA playoffs rezoom again tonight, as we have basketball pretty
much every night and until June, and the playoffs are
so much better than the regular season. Wish we could
have playoff basketball all year round. I know the players
would all be complaining and tired and worn out by
the time they got to December at this rate.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But uh, yeah, they're they're just they're just weak. Uh
anyway they are. I'm not going to disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I mean, Reggie Miller and Michael Jordan are laughing at
at the regular season.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh, Reggie Miller's loving it when he's doing uh pistons,
He's loving it. He's like, man, this is makes me
feel like I could be back back.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, get off my lawn. All right.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So, anyway, the Nuggets won the other day on an
Aaron Gordon dunk at the buzzer, and so they're in
the uh in the press conference afterwards, and they asked
Gordon what he thought of the play, and he goes,
it was a great pass. And then Jokich just puts
his hand on his face and starts laughing, and they go, Joker,
(01:10):
was that a pass?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I missed.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So but anyway, it's reminiscent of the nineteen eighty three
NCAA Championship game when Darry Quittenberg threw up a shot
and Lorenzo Charles dunked it at the buzzer and everybody's
kind of standing around in awe, thinking, oh, what just happened.
But nonetheless, there's people that think that the Clippers are
(01:35):
better than the Nuggets. I think this is the most
even of the series. The Clippers are better when Kawhi
Leonard scores thirty five, they're not better when he doesn't.
He had twenty four in this game the other night.
Kawhi Leonard is the equalizer, difference maker, whatever you want
to say. If they have Kawhi Leonard playing an optimum level,
the Clippers are better. But you never know which Kawhi
(01:57):
Leonard you're going to get. And I don't think Kawi
is as consistent as he used to be because some
nights he doesn't play well, in some nights he does.
I understand he's injury prone. I understand he has a
low threshold of pain, or lower than most players in
the NBA. Had he been able to fight through that
pain and say some respects of injury free in the
(02:21):
last six or seven years, I think we will be
talking about Kawhi Leonard in the same breath that we
talk about Jordan and Kobe Bryant and others. He is
an amazingly talented player. Whether you like him or not,
whether you think he Chilton san Antonio or not, whatever
your issues are with Kawhi Leonard, you can never take
away the skill set that he has and the skill
(02:41):
set that he developed. It was very, very raw when
he was here as a rookie in twenty eleven, and
he developed the twenty nineteen playoffs. I mean, he was
Kobe and MJ wrapped into one player. He's bigger than
both of them, and defense just as well, and shoots
the ball just as well and can get to the basket,
but it can't deal with a little bit of discomfort,
(03:03):
and then the little bit of discomfort becomes a lot
of discomfort and he can't play. And twenty four should
be a good night for most players. But if Kawhi
Leonard is not going to score in the mid thirties,
I think Denver's gonna win these games. And I think
Jokic and Gordon and Murray are just as good as
any combination that the Clippers have, except when you get
(03:27):
phenomenal monster games from Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, I wouldn't necessarily say even on that standpoint is
because and again I saw the end of that game
live and I was like, you know, just had my
mouth wide open, like, what the heck that I just see?
On a good night? Number two scoring twenty four, You'll
take that. But Jane Harden, our favorite guy, only fifteen points,
(03:56):
and yeah, you would say, well, fifteen points, five to
eleven shooting, that's a good night, yeah, for a role player.
But when it's James Harden, you were expecting him to
on a bad night to at least get twenty, you know.
So that's where it comes down to. If number two
is only getting you twenty points, then James Harden needs
(04:18):
to at least get you twenty to balance that out.
Because the Nuggets are so heavily based on Nicola Jokic
bailing them out and they're starting five because besides they're
starting five their bench four points for the Denver four.
I'm sorry, I think I can't.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I think the NBA has become we really don't see
a lot of balance scoring anymore in playoff wins. If
you look at the Warriors, their offense is centered around
Butler and Curry, yeah, and you know occasionally, you know,
Buddy Heil has a decent game or something like that.
If if you're if you're watching the Clippers, it's all
(04:59):
centered around and Kawhi and if they have an off night,
they lose. And the Lakers are Luca and Lebron. The
Celtics are probably the most balanced team because the Cavaliers
are gonna basically play with with two players.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's say three, yeah, three, but.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But then Milwaukee's got Dame and Giannis, and Dame's going
to be out for the rest of the year and
probably most of next year. And so if it's become teams,
they don't want teams to have three superstars. Two superstars
and a role player like Cleveland has is fine. Three
superstars like what the Spurs had, unless they're taking reduced money,
(05:41):
which they used to do, isn't fine. They don't want
three MAX players on a roster that upsets the balance.
Minnesota is Anthony Edwards dependent and occasionally somebody else plays well.
But the UH and the and the the Warriors should
not have won Game three. Houston had a golden opportunity
with Alt Butler and they didn't get it done. So
(06:02):
we're seeing the NBA become kind of a two man
dependent team and sometimes a third is a role player
sneaks in there. I don't know if that's good or
bad for the game. I'll make that decision as I
look at it into a little bit further. But the
way that the physicality and the competitiveness of the playoffs
is what I like about the NBA, And from September,
(06:25):
in training camp, in October, in the preseason games, and
until maybe a handful of games here and there, it
doesn't seem like we ever have that in the regular season.
The other night, there was a play and it was
really good ball rotation. It could have been any of
the games because they this happened. I think I was
particularly watching Indiana in Milwaukee the other night, and the
(06:47):
ball rotated perfectly and they got an open three swish,
and then they played ran the exact same play on
the next play, open three swish, and then they ran
the play again a third time, and this time Milwaukee
covered the corner and they didn't score. And if it
had been the regular season, they could have run that
play for the rest of the game and scored every time,
because by the fifth pass, nobody was paying attention to
(07:10):
where the ball was going. The regular season is about
two or three passes.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Shoot it.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If it doesn't go in, we're going to fast break
and transition three the other way. And so there's not
enough defense played in the regular season. They're actually playing defense.
The Pistons New York game, it was a blatant call
at the end of the game on the Pistons New
York fouled. I don't remember who the shooter was for
the Pistons, but they fouled him.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Think it was Tim Hardaway Junior. I think he was
the shooter. Yeah, he was the shooter, and I believe
it was Josh Hart was Josh Hart fouled him.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Officials two feet away sitting there holds his hands up
for the three and Hardaway Junior is in the third row.
And there's no whistle that affected the game. Call that whistle,
but they hadn't called that the whole game, so they're.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Not going to call it at the last few seconds
of the game.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I don't think the play that Detroit it ran was
very good but hey, well they finally got a little
bit of a daylight.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
To shoot it, and you follow them.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's three free throws and now there's three seconds ago
and you get a chance.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, well it was a scramble towards the end because
I think it was like eleven seconds left. Cade Cunneham
tries to drive the lane, misses the shot, and then
it was an all out scramble. And I agree with
you to a certain extent. If you're not gonna call
certain things all game, okay, that's fine. But when it's
something that's determining the end of a game and you
(08:32):
flat out no, and you come out and say, yeah,
we definitely missed that one. That's where it's an ugly
look on the NBA and the NBA officials because when
they sit there and say, well, when we went and
reviewed the tape, yeah we missed that one.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Then why did you need to review the tape.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I'm literally two feet away from you, A player is
laying on the other team's bench, and you can't can't
blow the whistle for that because it's just listen, I
want the players to play. I want the game to
be called. If you're driving the lane, in there's some
incental contact, let it go. But you slap somebody across
the arm on a three pointer and it's a decent
three point shooter.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Or whether it is or is it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But if it's, certainly if it is, that affected the
play of the bump and the push and the little
thing here and there. I mean, how many times are
we seeing close ups of Steph Curry at the trying
to get open for a pass and people are tugging
at the jersey the whole time in the regular season
automatic foul before the play even the ball even comes
in bounds. Now it's basically he's being held the whole way,
(09:35):
and he's so quick he's able to get away from
that and get the ball and get a shot off.
But I know we were not going to see that
in the regular season, but it would be great if
we could see more of that in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I just I hate for a game to end like
that in such controversy to where and then the NBA
puts out the official two minute report and it's like, yeah,
we screwed up on that one. Okay, maybe during the
regular season I can forgive that one of eighty two games,
because in retrospect, one game shouldn't matter that much, but
(10:07):
when it's in the playoffs now instead of the series
possibly being two to two, now it's the Knicks, or it's.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Three on three.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
When you are right, I don't know if we need
to go to the to the avenue of if it's
something like that and a coach doesn't have a challenge
that it gets reviewed by secaucus to where like how
in the how in in the NCAA in college football? Hey, hey,
the reviews they're going to take a look at it.
Just real quick, all.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Right, we'll talk Texans draft coming up in the six
o'clock hour. A radio host in Buffalo gets launch handed
to him kind of. JJ Perez will join us at
six point fifteen or so, and we'll talk about the
new stadium the Commanders are building.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Coming up next. It's the Andy Average show on the
ticket
Thank you for being part of the show today.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
NBA playoffs rezoom again tonight, as we have basketball pretty
much every night and until June, and the playoffs are
so much better than the regular season. Wish we could
have playoff basketball all year round. I know the players
would all be complaining and tired and worn out by
the time they got to December at this rate.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But uh, yeah, they're they're just they're just weak. Uh
anyway they are. I'm not going to disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I mean, Reggie Miller and Michael Jordan are laughing at
at the regular season.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh, Reggie Miller's loving it when he's doing uh pistons,
He's loving it. He's like, man, this is makes me
feel like I could be back back.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, get off my lawn. All right.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So, anyway, the Nuggets won the other day on an
Aaron Gordon dunk at the buzzer, and so they're in
the uh in the press conference afterwards, and they asked
Gordon what he thought of the play, and he goes,
it was a great pass. And then Jokich just puts
his hand on his face and starts laughing, and they go, Joker,
(01:10):
was that a pass?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I missed.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So but anyway, it's reminiscent of the nineteen eighty three
NCAA Championship game when Darry Quittenberg threw up a shot
and Lorenzo Charles dunked it at the buzzer and everybody's
kind of standing around in awe, thinking, oh, what just happened.
But nonetheless, there's people that think that the Clippers are
(01:35):
better than the Nuggets. I think this is the most
even of the series. The Clippers are better when Kawhi
Leonard scores thirty five, they're not better when he doesn't.
He had twenty four in this game the other night.
Kawhi Leonard is the equalizer, difference maker, whatever you want
to say. If they have Kawhi Leonard playing an optimum level,
the Clippers are better. But you never know which Kawhi
(01:57):
Leonard you're going to get. And I don't think Kawi
is as consistent as he used to be because some
nights he doesn't play well, in some nights he does.
I understand he's injury prone. I understand he has a
low threshold of pain, or lower than most players in
the NBA. Had he been able to fight through that
pain and say some respects of injury free in the
(02:21):
last six or seven years, I think we will be
talking about Kawhi Leonard in the same breath that we
talk about Jordan and Kobe Bryant and others. He is
an amazingly talented player. Whether you like him or not,
whether you think he Chilton san Antonio or not, whatever
your issues are with Kawhi Leonard, you can never take
away the skill set that he has and the skill
(02:41):
set that he developed. It was very, very raw when
he was here as a rookie in twenty eleven, and
he developed the twenty nineteen playoffs. I mean, he was
Kobe and MJ wrapped into one player. He's bigger than
both of them, and defense just as well, and shoots
the ball just as well and can get to the basket,
but it can't deal with a little bit of discomfort,
(03:03):
and then the little bit of discomfort becomes a lot
of discomfort and he can't play. And twenty four should
be a good night for most players. But if Kawhi
Leonard is not going to score in the mid thirties,
I think Denver's gonna win these games. And I think
Jokic and Gordon and Murray are just as good as
any combination that the Clippers have, except when you get
(03:27):
phenomenal monster games from Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, I wouldn't necessarily say even on that standpoint is
because and again I saw the end of that game
live and I was like, you know, just had my
mouth wide open, like, what the heck that I just see?
On a good night? Number two scoring twenty four, You'll
take that. But Jane Harden, our favorite guy, only fifteen points,
(03:56):
and yeah, you would say, well, fifteen points, five to
eleven shooting, that's a good night, yeah, for a role player.
But when it's James Harden, you were expecting him to
on a bad night to at least get twenty, you know.
So that's where it comes down to. If number two
is only getting you twenty points, then James Harden needs
(04:18):
to at least get you twenty to balance that out.
Because the Nuggets are so heavily based on Nicola Jokic
bailing them out and they're starting five because besides they're
starting five their bench four points for the Denver four.
I'm sorry, I think I can't.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I think the NBA has become we really don't see
a lot of balance scoring anymore in playoff wins. If
you look at the Warriors, their offense is centered around
Butler and Curry, yeah, and you know occasionally, you know,
Buddy Heil has a decent game or something like that.
If if you're if you're watching the Clippers, it's all
(04:59):
centered around and Kawhi and if they have an off night,
they lose. And the Lakers are Luca and Lebron. The
Celtics are probably the most balanced team because the Cavaliers
are gonna basically play with with two players.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's say three, yeah, three, but.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But then Milwaukee's got Dame and Giannis, and Dame's going
to be out for the rest of the year and
probably most of next year. And so if it's become teams,
they don't want teams to have three superstars. Two superstars
and a role player like Cleveland has is fine. Three
superstars like what the Spurs had, unless they're taking reduced money,
(05:41):
which they used to do, isn't fine. They don't want
three MAX players on a roster that upsets the balance.
Minnesota is Anthony Edwards dependent and occasionally somebody else plays well.
But the UH and the and the the Warriors should
not have won Game three. Houston had a golden opportunity
with Alt Butler and they didn't get it done. So
(06:02):
we're seeing the NBA become kind of a two man
dependent team and sometimes a third is a role player
sneaks in there. I don't know if that's good or
bad for the game. I'll make that decision as I
look at it into a little bit further. But the
way that the physicality and the competitiveness of the playoffs
is what I like about the NBA, And from September,
(06:25):
in training camp, in October, in the preseason games, and
until maybe a handful of games here and there, it
doesn't seem like we ever have that in the regular season.
The other night, there was a play and it was
really good ball rotation. It could have been any of
the games because they this happened. I think I was
particularly watching Indiana in Milwaukee the other night, and the
(06:47):
ball rotated perfectly and they got an open three swish,
and then they played ran the exact same play on
the next play, open three swish, and then they ran
the play again a third time, and this time Milwaukee
covered the corner and they didn't score. And if it
had been the regular season, they could have run that
play for the rest of the game and scored every time,
because by the fifth pass, nobody was paying attention to
(07:10):
where the ball was going. The regular season is about
two or three passes.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Shoot it.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If it doesn't go in, we're going to fast break
and transition three the other way. And so there's not
enough defense played in the regular season. They're actually playing defense.
The Pistons New York game, it was a blatant call
at the end of the game on the Pistons New
York fouled. I don't remember who the shooter was for
the Pistons, but they fouled him.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Think it was Tim Hardaway Junior. I think he was
the shooter. Yeah, he was the shooter, and I believe
it was Josh Hart was Josh Hart fouled him.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Officials two feet away sitting there holds his hands up
for the three and Hardaway Junior is in the third row.
And there's no whistle that affected the game. Call that whistle,
but they hadn't called that the whole game, so they're.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Not going to call it at the last few seconds
of the game.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I don't think the play that Detroit it ran was
very good but hey, well they finally got a little
bit of a daylight.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
To shoot it, and you follow them.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's three free throws and now there's three seconds ago
and you get a chance.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, well it was a scramble towards the end because
I think it was like eleven seconds left. Cade Cunneham
tries to drive the lane, misses the shot, and then
it was an all out scramble. And I agree with
you to a certain extent. If you're not gonna call
certain things all game, okay, that's fine. But when it's
something that's determining the end of a game and you
(08:32):
flat out no, and you come out and say, yeah,
we definitely missed that one. That's where it's an ugly
look on the NBA and the NBA officials because when
they sit there and say, well, when we went and
reviewed the tape, yeah we missed that one.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Then why did you need to review the tape.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I'm literally two feet away from you, A player is
laying on the other team's bench, and you can't can't
blow the whistle for that because it's just listen, I
want the players to play. I want the game to
be called. If you're driving the lane, in there's some
incental contact, let it go. But you slap somebody across
the arm on a three pointer and it's a decent
three point shooter.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Or whether it is or is it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
But if it's, certainly if it is, that affected the
play of the bump and the push and the little
thing here and there. I mean, how many times are
we seeing close ups of Steph Curry at the trying
to get open for a pass and people are tugging
at the jersey the whole time in the regular season
automatic foul before the play even the ball even comes
in bounds. Now it's basically he's being held the whole way,
(09:35):
and he's so quick he's able to get away from
that and get the ball and get a shot off.
But I know we were not going to see that
in the regular season, but it would be great if
we could see more of that in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I just I hate for a game to end like
that in such controversy to where and then the NBA
puts out the official two minute report and it's like, yeah,
we screwed up on that one. Okay, maybe during the
regular season I can forgive that one of eighty two games,
because in retrospect, one game shouldn't matter that much, but
(10:07):
when it's in the playoffs now instead of the series
possibly being two to two, now it's the Knicks, or it's.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Three on three.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
When you are right, I don't know if we need
to go to the to the avenue of if it's
something like that and a coach doesn't have a challenge
that it gets reviewed by secaucus to where like how
in the how in in the NCAA in college football? Hey, hey,
the reviews they're going to take a look at it.
Just real quick, all.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Right, we'll talk Texans draft coming up in the six
o'clock hour. A radio host in Buffalo gets launch handed
to him kind of. JJ Perez will join us at
six point fifteen or so, and we'll talk about the
new stadium the Commanders are building.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
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