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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Let's talk about Cooper Flagg. He's headed to the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The teams that have the best chance of drafting him
are the Utah Jazz, the Charlotte Hornets, the Washington Purgatory Wizards,
and the Pelicans. Likely to be one of those are
the four with the most ping pong balls. Joe Dumars
is now taking over at New Orleans as their general
(00:28):
manager I think team president as well president of basketball operation. Well, well,
it's basically the same job. He's making the decisions. He's
making the decisions on who gets drafted, and he's making
the decisions on who's going to coach the team and
all that kind of stuff. Well, right now it's still
Willie Green. Yeah, Willie Green's kind of been Newted a
little bit. Again, he did bring in Joe Dumars to
(00:51):
not run your draft exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
And again, I know you rag on on New Orleans because.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because their organization is cheap. Yes, so here's my question.
They were injury worthy. I understand, I understand they have
a good roster and they're gonna trade Zion this summer.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
There's that.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, they're going to try it with every ounce of
being they can to move Zion and you've told me
all the other players they have and Murray, I'll come
back at some point and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But the problem is, do.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Do players want to stay long term with the Pelicans?
And the reputation that the Pelicans have had is that
we're not going to stay in the nicest hotels in
a city.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We're going to stay in the average ones.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They're better than most, and they're expensive, but we're not
staying at the Ritz Carlton, and we're not staying at
the at the Renaissance in the four seasons and all
these the things that have room service. Twenty four to seven.
You're gonna get the Marriott and like it. And there's
nothing wrong with the Marriott unless you're an NBA player.
And the other thirty teams, other twenty nine teams are
staying at a Knight's or hotel.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You're staying at the Motel six. They'll leave the light
on for you.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, well, I guarantee it. Not even the Hornets, I
mean the Pelicans. Let's go that low anyway, that's the reputation.
So when Joe Dumars says, Okay, why are we staying
in this secondary hotel in town and he gets back
to ownership. This is all a part of being a
(02:19):
winning organization. Remember when Mark Cuban bought the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes, it seems so long ago now, when he actually
cared about basketball.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Or excited to be whatever he is now. Well, he
went to guys like Michael Finley and the players in
Dirk and said, what can we do to make this better?
Room service twenty four to seven hotels? Hotels that have
a full service gym in them, so we can work
out when on off days, you know, a nicer We
already have a private plane, but how about a knightser one.
(02:50):
It's those amenities that players will talk to their friends
about around the league as to whether or not you
want to come there as a free agent. And Mark
Cuban knew that was an expense he needed to bear
if he wanted to field competitive and championship teams for
a long time. That's my issue with the Pelicans. They
don't want to do that very often. I'll put the
(03:12):
Pelicans in the maybe category, but they've already had one
chance with Williamson and Zion was constantly hurt and loved
the New Orleans food so much he ate himself into
more injuries. But the places that I hope that he
does not go. Number one is obviously Washington and number
two is the Charlotte Hornets. Those two teams do not
(03:34):
care about the future of their franchise. They are in
it to make some semblance of a profit. If losing
a dollar means whether or not they are going to
have an opportunity to win a championship or not to
be competitive, that's irrelevant. I don't think Toronto is in
that vote right now either.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I don't think that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I don't think that Brooklyn's there and Portland's so far
away we would never know when he's playing. To me,
the teams that would make the most sense, where he
would develop the fastest, where he would be in the
best position to make an impact, obviously San Antonio in
if Atlanta Pit gets the lottery, there's two chances for
(04:15):
this first to get lottery win Number four. I think
the Bulls have a pretty good roster. I like Sacramento's roster,
but they're a lot like Portland. They're out in the
middle of nowhere, so you're not going to have a
lot of situations, a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Eyes on him. There but how about him.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
If if Phoenix were to win the lottery, and now
you're going to move off of Durant, but you've got
Booker and Flag on the on the wings, and when
you trade for Durant, and you could go get a
point guard and you could play Bradley Beal in that
mix too. If you don't move off of him all
of a sudden, Now you don't have a guy that
demands the ball like Durant. You have a point guard
(04:56):
that can throw the three different guys. I know that
offensively that would be good. I'd have to see that
would work out defensively. But I think Mattishbi has got
a plan. I think he's changed the plan a few times,
and he's not afraid to spend money because he's firing
coaches and keeping on the payroll left and right. But
that would be a really good destination I think for
Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't I don't know about that because again, even
even if the notion of you trade Kevin Durant, you
still got to make sure that you have a legit
number one point guard.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I just don't know what if they traded into Miami
and Rochier was part of that pick.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
But again, I think this is your your fascination of
for the longest time. You were such a big Kyle
Lowry fan. I was. He was good until he got old.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That was your guy. It was like, Hey, I don't care,
I'm gonna get Kyle Lowry. Kyle that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
When Kyle Lowry and DeMar Derozen were together in Toronto
that was ten years ago, that was a great tandem
in the backcourt. They never had enough to win, but
that was a good backcourt.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I will say that again.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think if he goes to somewhere like in those
particular instances, Yes, Charlotte for the for for a while
have not been about winning. But I think him going
to Charlotte would help them out a lot because you
do have you have a legitimate point guard there with.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'm sure they probably would.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But you at least would have a young nucleus there
with a young LaMelo Ball. You have Miles Bridges, you
have Brandon Miller from what was it like, not this year,
but the last year.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So you have a young core there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That could be maybe the potential future Houston Rockets or
maybe the potential Fused or Orlando Magic or Oklahoma City
I do agree with you.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I think Washington would be terrible.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I believe the one team, even though they've had two
bad years that would not screw it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Up is Utah.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, and that's a fairly well run organization for the
longest time with the Utah Jazz, they have players there
already in place.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Here's another thing, Nico Harrison has been has been on
fire lately for the wrong reasons. What if Dallas wins
the lottery, That's not gonna that's not gonna happen. Well,
anything is possible. It is anything's possible anyway, And now
Kyrie is not going to play till the All Star
break at then you throw in Thompson and Flag in
(07:38):
Washington and Davis and Lively and I'm looking at this
roster here, Jaffer. Yeah, they would be pretty good pretty
quickly if they got.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
If they got Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Uh yeah, looking at that roster, they pretty much have
everybody coming back besides uh Spencer, Dinwiddie and don take Xum.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That's not a big loss. Yeah, that's not a big loss.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It just depends on you know, I guess what position
he's going to play. Is he going to be a starter,
Is he coming off the bench. That's that's not a
bad one. I know, that's like a what two chance
that they get it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It wouldn't surprise me that if that happened that Nico
Harrison would do something stupid with it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He'd be like, oh, yeah, we's Ico.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Nico Harrison is not going to do anything that the
ownership doesn't allow him to do.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He's going wrong again, No, he is not.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
This is not on Nico Nico's Nico's no different than
he was two months ago.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
As a GM.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
You cannot judge Nico Harrison on the Luca Dongis trade
because it wasn't his idea. There's no way you've trade
the second best player in the world for a thirty
two year old aging center unless the ownership group demands
that you do it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
All right, So we'll see what.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Happens to Cooper Flag when the lottery is announced in
about three weeks. I think they do the the lottery draft.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
All right.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Simone Biles is in the news, and we'll tell you
why she's had some issues lately.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
We'll get into the.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Kind of an overall broad topic that I'm going to
preface as the media is not always evil. And we'll
also talk about Nico Harrison and have you hear from
him coming up on the ticket.
Let's talk about Cooper Flagg. He's headed to the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The teams that have the best chance of drafting him
are the Utah Jazz, the Charlotte Hornets, the Washington Purgatory Wizards,
and the Pelicans. Likely to be one of those are
the four with the most ping pong balls. Joe Dumars
is now taking over at New Orleans as their general
(00:28):
manager I think team president as well president of basketball operation. Well, well,
it's basically the same job. He's making the decisions. He's
making the decisions on who gets drafted, and he's making
the decisions on who's going to coach the team and
all that kind of stuff. Well, right now it's still
Willie Green. Yeah, Willie Green's kind of been Newted a
little bit. Again, he did bring in Joe Dumars to
(00:51):
not run your draft exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
And again, I know you rag on on New Orleans because.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because their organization is cheap. Yes, so here's my question.
They were injury worthy. I understand, I understand they have
a good roster and they're gonna trade Zion this summer.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
There's that.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, they're going to try it with every ounce of
being they can to move Zion and you've told me
all the other players they have and Murray, I'll come
back at some point and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But the problem is, do.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Do players want to stay long term with the Pelicans?
And the reputation that the Pelicans have had is that
we're not going to stay in the nicest hotels in
a city.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We're going to stay in the average ones.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They're better than most, and they're expensive, but we're not
staying at the Ritz Carlton, and we're not staying at
the at the Renaissance in the four seasons and all
these the things that have room service. Twenty four to seven.
You're gonna get the Marriott and like it. And there's
nothing wrong with the Marriott unless you're an NBA player.
And the other thirty teams, other twenty nine teams are
staying at a Knight's or hotel.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You're staying at the Motel six. They'll leave the light
on for you.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, well, I guarantee it. Not even the Hornets, I
mean the Pelicans. Let's go that low anyway, that's the reputation.
So when Joe Dumars says, Okay, why are we staying
in this secondary hotel in town and he gets back
to ownership. This is all a part of being a
(02:19):
winning organization. Remember when Mark Cuban bought the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes, it seems so long ago now, when he actually
cared about basketball.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Or excited to be whatever he is now. Well, he
went to guys like Michael Finley and the players in
Dirk and said, what can we do to make this better?
Room service twenty four to seven hotels? Hotels that have
a full service gym in them, so we can work
out when on off days, you know, a nicer We
already have a private plane, but how about a knightser one.
(02:50):
It's those amenities that players will talk to their friends
about around the league as to whether or not you
want to come there as a free agent. And Mark
Cuban knew that was an expense he needed to bear
if he wanted to field competitive and championship teams for
a long time. That's my issue with the Pelicans. They
don't want to do that very often. I'll put the
(03:12):
Pelicans in the maybe category, but they've already had one
chance with Williamson and Zion was constantly hurt and loved
the New Orleans food so much he ate himself into
more injuries. But the places that I hope that he
does not go. Number one is obviously Washington and number
two is the Charlotte Hornets. Those two teams do not
(03:34):
care about the future of their franchise. They are in
it to make some semblance of a profit. If losing
a dollar means whether or not they are going to
have an opportunity to win a championship or not to
be competitive, that's irrelevant. I don't think Toronto is in
that vote right now either.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I don't think that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I don't think that Brooklyn's there and Portland's so far
away we would never know when he's playing. To me,
the teams that would make the most sense, where he
would develop the fastest, where he would be in the
best position to make an impact, obviously San Antonio in
if Atlanta Pit gets the lottery, there's two chances for
(04:15):
this first to get lottery win Number four. I think
the Bulls have a pretty good roster. I like Sacramento's roster,
but they're a lot like Portland. They're out in the
middle of nowhere, so you're not going to have a
lot of situations, a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Eyes on him. There but how about him.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
If if Phoenix were to win the lottery, and now
you're going to move off of Durant, but you've got
Booker and Flag on the on the wings, and when
you trade for Durant, and you could go get a
point guard and you could play Bradley Beal in that
mix too. If you don't move off of him all
of a sudden, Now you don't have a guy that
demands the ball like Durant. You have a point guard
(04:56):
that can throw the three different guys. I know that
offensively that would be good. I'd have to see that
would work out defensively. But I think Mattishbi has got
a plan. I think he's changed the plan a few times,
and he's not afraid to spend money because he's firing
coaches and keeping on the payroll left and right. But
that would be a really good destination I think for
Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't I don't know about that because again, even
even if the notion of you trade Kevin Durant, you
still got to make sure that you have a legit
number one point guard.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I just don't know what if they traded into Miami
and Rochier was part of that pick.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
But again, I think this is your your fascination of
for the longest time. You were such a big Kyle
Lowry fan. I was. He was good until he got old.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That was your guy. It was like, Hey, I don't care,
I'm gonna get Kyle Lowry. Kyle that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
When Kyle Lowry and DeMar Derozen were together in Toronto
that was ten years ago, that was a great tandem
in the backcourt. They never had enough to win, but
that was a good backcourt.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I will say that again.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think if he goes to somewhere like in those
particular instances, Yes, Charlotte for the for for a while
have not been about winning. But I think him going
to Charlotte would help them out a lot because you
do have you have a legitimate point guard there with.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'm sure they probably would.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
But you at least would have a young nucleus there
with a young LaMelo Ball. You have Miles Bridges, you
have Brandon Miller from what was it like, not this year,
but the last year.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So you have a young core there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That could be maybe the potential future Houston Rockets or
maybe the potential Fused or Orlando Magic or Oklahoma City
I do agree with you.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I think Washington would be terrible.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I believe the one team, even though they've had two
bad years that would not screw it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Up is Utah.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, and that's a fairly well run organization for the
longest time with the Utah Jazz, they have players there
already in place.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Here's another thing, Nico Harrison has been has been on
fire lately for the wrong reasons. What if Dallas wins
the lottery, That's not gonna that's not gonna happen. Well,
anything is possible. It is anything's possible anyway, And now
Kyrie is not going to play till the All Star
break at then you throw in Thompson and Flag in
(07:38):
Washington and Davis and Lively and I'm looking at this
roster here, Jaffer. Yeah, they would be pretty good pretty
quickly if they got.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
If they got Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Uh yeah, looking at that roster, they pretty much have
everybody coming back besides uh Spencer, Dinwiddie and don take Xum.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That's not a big loss. Yeah, that's not a big loss.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It just depends on you know, I guess what position
he's going to play. Is he going to be a starter,
Is he coming off the bench. That's that's not a
bad one. I know, that's like a what two chance
that they get it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It wouldn't surprise me that if that happened that Nico
Harrison would do something stupid with it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He'd be like, oh, yeah, we's Ico.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Nico Harrison is not going to do anything that the
ownership doesn't allow him to do.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He's going wrong again, No, he is not.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
This is not on Nico Nico's Nico's no different than
he was two months ago.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
As a GM.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
You cannot judge Nico Harrison on the Luca Dongis trade
because it wasn't his idea. There's no way you've trade
the second best player in the world for a thirty
two year old aging center unless the ownership group demands
that you do it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
All right, So we'll see what.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Happens to Cooper Flag when the lottery is announced in
about three weeks. I think they do the the lottery draft.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
All right.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Simone Biles is in the news, and we'll tell you
why she's had some issues lately.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
We'll get into the.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Kind of an overall broad topic that I'm going to
preface as the media is not always evil. And we'll
also talk about Nico Harrison and have you hear from
him coming up on the ticket.
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