August 25, 2025 • 11 mins
Andy’s full review of the Dallas Cowboys Netflix docu-series.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Netflix series.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I've seen now all episodes of The Gambler and His Cowboys,
the Jerry Jones story. This took us through the firing
of Jimmy Johnson, the feud of Jimmy and Jerry for years,
Jerry's insistence that he would not be in the Ring
of Honor, and then actually put him in the Ring
of Honor. But there were two key parts of the
(00:26):
story that I was glad that were told several but
one in particular was a lawsuit that the NFL filed
against Jerry Jones back in the early mid nineties when
he decided to do a sponsorship deal on his own
with Pepsi after the league had a league wide deal
with Coke, and Jerry's ideal was, I'm making twenty five
(00:48):
percent of the league's profits because of the Cowboys sales,
and I'm only able to take thirty two percent of
the money to share with all the other NFL teams.
And he really changed the landscape of the way the
business of sport was done in the NFL. He took
down all the He made sure that everybody could do
(01:10):
local deals, even if it circumvented some of the national
deals that the NFL had and people like Carmen Policy
from the San Francisco forty nine ers and others around
the league that were owners didn't like it very much.
And not only they sued Jerry Jones, but they told
him if they won the lawsuit that they were going
to force him to sell the team and get out
(01:30):
of the league. And Jerry, in this documentary said, if
I win, if you guys win, I know you're going
to take my team.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And it's just so you know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And when he countersued for seven hundred million, he said,
I just want you to know that I'm going to
have an even more competitive balance against you because I'm
going to do everything I can to collect every penny
of that seven hundred million that I'm going to win
when I beat you in court. And fortunately, the cooler
heads got together and the Nike deal and the Pepsi
(02:03):
deal got together, got to be continue, and the league
made a settlement with Jerry, and it really kind of
opened the floodgates so that everybody else could do their
own marketing locally about in their markets. Because even if
you're not the Dallas Cowboys that are kind of a
global brand. Either the Bengals or the Seahawks or the
(02:25):
Rams or wherever you have a local brand, that's very
important that you should be able to reap the benefits
of with not necessarily making that a shared situation.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So he made that very clear.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He also talked about never wanted to be away from
the action of the game. I'm very comfortable with all
the things that are said negatively about me. I expect
people to criticize me when you are a risk taker
and when you are a gambler.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And that's how he's been all his life. Was a
taker in the oil business.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
He bought an oil well that in several gas wells
in San Francisco that turned out to give him enough
money to buy the Cowboys. And he doesn't mind taking risks.
That's why he went after Dion Sanders, That's why I
hired Barry Switzer. And risk wise, he's not afraid of
doing that. What he is afraid of, I think is
(03:22):
giving up control. And he's never going to give up control.
But look at a couple of the seasons where the
Cowboys were really, really unlucky. The Tony Romo bought Snap
in two thousand and seven and the des Catch that
was still still looks like a catch to me that
was ruled not a catch in Green Bay? Could those
have been Super Bowl teams? Because could those have at
least been NFC Championship teams.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I think they probably could have.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And so if you get two and twenty five years,
that's a lot for a lot of teams. Maybe not
for a dynasty team like the Cowboys, but I thought
that was pretty interesting. And then they talked about Barry
Switzer and I knew Barry Switzer.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That coach did o you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And Barry wasn't very hands on when it came to
the practices.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He was an overseer of practice.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He would watch practice and he would interject and he
would show people that were doing had the wrong technique.
But he didn't call the plays, although he had the
headset on and he could listen to what plays were
being called by whoever his offensive coordinator was at the time.
He called plays in the mid to early seventies, but
he acquiesced that to the coordinators as he moved forward.
And where Jimmy was in your face dictatorial type, coach
(04:32):
Barry Switzer looked at you like you were an adult
and if you were going to play the position and
play here. You better do it right or I'm going
to cut you. And even though he may not have
had the power to cut like Jimmy did, he would
certainly recommend it to Jerry that certain players be cut
if they needed to be. But Jerry Barry was a
much more laid back coach and a lot of the
(04:52):
players did not like that. And I thought there was
a pretty interesting line in there where Troy Aikman said,
my only issue with Coach Switzer was I wanted to win,
and I didn't think the way he was going about
it was going to give us the best chance of winning.
And he said I went to o you over Oklahoma
State because oh you won and Oklahoma State didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
When he was in high school, and.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He said, I wanted to win, and the way that
Barry was doing it in the way that I was
wanting to do it were different. But that was part
of the of the last few stories as well, and
he said the Barry Switzer years were very underrated years.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
This is Jerry's comments.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
People don't give Barry Switzer the credit for the four
years he coached the Cowboys. And the final part of
this that I saw was the Michael Irvin drug situation.
And I learned more about the drug situation in about
about fifteen minutes of it being covered in one of
the series of the documentaries that I remember from thirty
years ago. And basically, Michael Irvin was close to going
(05:55):
to prison for twenty years for possession of drugs and
the the people that there were his escorts in that
hotel in Dallas, they told the Jerry, this was not
our drugs that was in the room. We were just present.
Michael always brought the drugs. And I think everybody knew
that Michael brought the drugs, but how could they prove
(06:15):
it except for the testimony of the people that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Said that he did.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
But when the prosecution was winning, at the last second,
Mike asked for a plea bargain and they gave him
the bargain of a lifetime. He almost messed that up
at training camp a few years later when he and
one of the offensive linemen got into an issue and
it was accidental, but Michael was holding a pair of
barber scissors when it sliced across the throat of one
(06:42):
of the players. But Michael Irvin has ten lives because
there he could have easily not been the playmaker that
he was. And then it also documented heavily the the
catch that he made against Philadelphia that ended his career
when he was somewhat paralyzed for a few days.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
They cheered that. The Philadelphia fans cheered. Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But yeah, I think it was a great show. If
you're a fan of the Cowboys, or even if you're not,
I think it's a great documentary. From what I can tell,
it's ninety nine point nine percent accurate on all levels.
Jerry's got a great memory, He's got great fondness for
a lot of different players that he played with. But
here's the overwhelming thing that I take from this on
(07:27):
all of those episodes, It's probably something that we've known
for a long time. Jerry Jones likes to be involved
with teams. You know, when players always say I don't
want to retire because I'm going to have to give.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Up my teammates.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The camaraderie in the locker room, the bannering that goes
back and forth, the card games on the planes. The
games are the games, and the practices are the practices,
and you go through it, but it's the relationships that
you build. I've gotten to experience that a lot in
the fifteen to nineteen years, for football and basketball with Yousa.
Certainly more so with basketball because there's more time together.
(08:06):
But you enjoy the after dinner, after game conversations with
players and coaches, and you enjoy the camaraderie that you
have when you win and the commiseration that you do
together when you lose. And I can see it on
every coach and every player how important those relationships are.
And I think Jerry has a relationship with everybody that's
(08:27):
ever been a Dallas Cowboy in his tenure. And to
be able to not be able to be around that,
to walk away from that, is something that is incredibly frightening,
I think for him, and that's why he does ever
want to give it up. He wants to be in
that room, he wants to be in that locker room.
He wants to be one of the guys. And he
did play football in the sixties in Arkansas, and even
(08:49):
though the game has changed a lot since then, I
think he does have more football acumen than people give
him credit for. He just didn't coach for thirty years.
He decided to go out and make money in the
oil business so he could own football team.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I thought it was a great show.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And we'll see what the Cowboys gonna do this year
with this roster.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, people like you and even the Dylan Emery, even
people my family who have seen it, and I've been
very very staunched. I don't want to see it because
I don't want to buy into it. Is that they
compared it a lot, and I'm and you probably I
think you brought this up. Also, they compared a lot
to the documentary The Last Dance with the Michael Jordan
the Bulls during that that final season, and the way
that it was. It was in a small condensed area,
(09:26):
told through like twenty or thirty different people. Even though
the focus was like supposed to be on the entire story,
it was obviously.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Geared more towards one guy more than anybody else. This
was about Jerry, right, It's about Jerry.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's like the Last Dance was supposed about the team,
but it's obvious they were it was about It was
about Michael, right. I mean, some people are even calling
it one of the better sports documentary at least docuseries
is what it actually is of all time? Right, I
don't know how you compared it to did you every
scent the Last Dance?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I like the Last Dance? And I agree with
a lot of Michael what Michael Jordan said. But anyway,
that's where.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I thought, Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I thought his portrayal of Isaiah Thomas was spot on.
And I may Isaiah may be the nicest guy in
the world to some people, but the few times I've
been around him when I had to cover locker rooms,
I totally agree with his observation of Isaiah Thomas. Michael
Jordan called him something that I can't say on the radio,
but he's not wrong at least my experience is with
(10:25):
can you say what a rhymes with? It's another word
for a donkey? Let's get it okay, hey, real quick
as I know we're coming for a break. We do
have an update on the Cowboys roster moves.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So running back film MafA, there's seventh rond rookie who
actually played really well this preseason.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
They're gonna put.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Him on IR two return, so he's gonna miss the
first four games this season. He won't count against the
final roster, but likely they're going to go with the
with the two vets Javonte Williams, Miles Sanders, Jayden Blue,
and Hunter Luky as their backfield. And they'll see if
any of those guys don't cut after four games, but
film MafA will come back after week four.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
All right, Tommy Fleetwood is ten million dollars richer and
he finally is in the winner circle on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
We'll talk about that next. It's the Andy Everette Show
on the Ticket
The Netflix series.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I've seen now all episodes of The Gambler and His Cowboys,
the Jerry Jones story. This took us through the firing
of Jimmy Johnson, the feud of Jimmy and Jerry for years,
Jerry's insistence that he would not be in the Ring
of Honor, and then actually put him in the Ring
of Honor. But there were two key parts of the
(00:26):
story that I was glad that were told several but
one in particular was a lawsuit that the NFL filed
against Jerry Jones back in the early mid nineties when
he decided to do a sponsorship deal on his own
with Pepsi after the league had a league wide deal
with Coke, and Jerry's ideal was, I'm making twenty five
(00:48):
percent of the league's profits because of the Cowboys sales,
and I'm only able to take thirty two percent of
the money to share with all the other NFL teams.
And he really changed the landscape of the way the
business of sport was done in the NFL. He took
down all the He made sure that everybody could do
(01:10):
local deals, even if it circumvented some of the national
deals that the NFL had and people like Carmen Policy
from the San Francisco forty nine ers and others around
the league that were owners didn't like it very much.
And not only they sued Jerry Jones, but they told
him if they won the lawsuit that they were going
to force him to sell the team and get out
(01:30):
of the league. And Jerry, in this documentary said, if
I win, if you guys win, I know you're going
to take my team.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And it's just so you know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And when he countersued for seven hundred million, he said,
I just want you to know that I'm going to
have an even more competitive balance against you because I'm
going to do everything I can to collect every penny
of that seven hundred million that I'm going to win
when I beat you in court. And fortunately, the cooler
heads got together and the Nike deal and the Pepsi
(02:03):
deal got together, got to be continue, and the league
made a settlement with Jerry, and it really kind of
opened the floodgates so that everybody else could do their
own marketing locally about in their markets. Because even if
you're not the Dallas Cowboys that are kind of a
global brand. Either the Bengals or the Seahawks or the
(02:25):
Rams or wherever you have a local brand, that's very
important that you should be able to reap the benefits
of with not necessarily making that a shared situation.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So he made that very clear.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He also talked about never wanted to be away from
the action of the game. I'm very comfortable with all
the things that are said negatively about me. I expect
people to criticize me when you are a risk taker
and when you are a gambler.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And that's how he's been all his life. Was a
taker in the oil business.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
He bought an oil well that in several gas wells
in San Francisco that turned out to give him enough
money to buy the Cowboys. And he doesn't mind taking risks.
That's why he went after Dion Sanders, That's why I
hired Barry Switzer. And risk wise, he's not afraid of
doing that. What he is afraid of, I think is
(03:22):
giving up control. And he's never going to give up control.
But look at a couple of the seasons where the
Cowboys were really, really unlucky. The Tony Romo bought Snap
in two thousand and seven and the des Catch that
was still still looks like a catch to me that
was ruled not a catch in Green Bay? Could those
have been Super Bowl teams? Because could those have at
least been NFC Championship teams.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I think they probably could have.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And so if you get two and twenty five years,
that's a lot for a lot of teams. Maybe not
for a dynasty team like the Cowboys, but I thought
that was pretty interesting. And then they talked about Barry
Switzer and I knew Barry Switzer.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That coach did o you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And Barry wasn't very hands on when it came to
the practices.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He was an overseer of practice.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He would watch practice and he would interject and he
would show people that were doing had the wrong technique.
But he didn't call the plays, although he had the
headset on and he could listen to what plays were
being called by whoever his offensive coordinator was at the time.
He called plays in the mid to early seventies, but
he acquiesced that to the coordinators as he moved forward.
And where Jimmy was in your face dictatorial type, coach
(04:32):
Barry Switzer looked at you like you were an adult
and if you were going to play the position and
play here. You better do it right or I'm going
to cut you. And even though he may not have
had the power to cut like Jimmy did, he would
certainly recommend it to Jerry that certain players be cut
if they needed to be. But Jerry Barry was a
much more laid back coach and a lot of the
(04:52):
players did not like that. And I thought there was
a pretty interesting line in there where Troy Aikman said,
my only issue with Coach Switzer was I wanted to win,
and I didn't think the way he was going about
it was going to give us the best chance of winning.
And he said I went to o you over Oklahoma
State because oh you won and Oklahoma State didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
When he was in high school, and.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He said, I wanted to win, and the way that
Barry was doing it in the way that I was
wanting to do it were different. But that was part
of the of the last few stories as well, and
he said the Barry Switzer years were very underrated years.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
This is Jerry's comments.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
People don't give Barry Switzer the credit for the four
years he coached the Cowboys. And the final part of
this that I saw was the Michael Irvin drug situation.
And I learned more about the drug situation in about
about fifteen minutes of it being covered in one of
the series of the documentaries that I remember from thirty
years ago. And basically, Michael Irvin was close to going
(05:55):
to prison for twenty years for possession of drugs and
the the people that there were his escorts in that
hotel in Dallas, they told the Jerry, this was not
our drugs that was in the room. We were just present.
Michael always brought the drugs. And I think everybody knew
that Michael brought the drugs, but how could they prove
(06:15):
it except for the testimony of the people that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Said that he did.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
But when the prosecution was winning, at the last second,
Mike asked for a plea bargain and they gave him
the bargain of a lifetime. He almost messed that up
at training camp a few years later when he and
one of the offensive linemen got into an issue and
it was accidental, but Michael was holding a pair of
barber scissors when it sliced across the throat of one
(06:42):
of the players. But Michael Irvin has ten lives because
there he could have easily not been the playmaker that
he was. And then it also documented heavily the the
catch that he made against Philadelphia that ended his career
when he was somewhat paralyzed for a few days.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
They cheered that. The Philadelphia fans cheered. Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But yeah, I think it was a great show. If
you're a fan of the Cowboys, or even if you're not,
I think it's a great documentary. From what I can tell,
it's ninety nine point nine percent accurate on all levels.
Jerry's got a great memory, He's got great fondness for
a lot of different players that he played with. But
here's the overwhelming thing that I take from this on
(07:27):
all of those episodes, It's probably something that we've known
for a long time. Jerry Jones likes to be involved
with teams. You know, when players always say I don't
want to retire because I'm going to have to give.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Up my teammates.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The camaraderie in the locker room, the bannering that goes
back and forth, the card games on the planes. The
games are the games, and the practices are the practices,
and you go through it, but it's the relationships that
you build. I've gotten to experience that a lot in
the fifteen to nineteen years, for football and basketball with Yousa.
Certainly more so with basketball because there's more time together.
(08:06):
But you enjoy the after dinner, after game conversations with
players and coaches, and you enjoy the camaraderie that you
have when you win and the commiseration that you do
together when you lose. And I can see it on
every coach and every player how important those relationships are.
And I think Jerry has a relationship with everybody that's
(08:27):
ever been a Dallas Cowboy in his tenure. And to
be able to not be able to be around that,
to walk away from that, is something that is incredibly frightening,
I think for him, and that's why he does ever
want to give it up. He wants to be in
that room, he wants to be in that locker room.
He wants to be one of the guys. And he
did play football in the sixties in Arkansas, and even
(08:49):
though the game has changed a lot since then, I
think he does have more football acumen than people give
him credit for. He just didn't coach for thirty years.
He decided to go out and make money in the
oil business so he could own football team.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I thought it was a great show.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And we'll see what the Cowboys gonna do this year
with this roster.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, people like you and even the Dylan Emery, even
people my family who have seen it, and I've been
very very staunched. I don't want to see it because
I don't want to buy into it. Is that they
compared it a lot, and I'm and you probably I
think you brought this up. Also, they compared a lot
to the documentary The Last Dance with the Michael Jordan
the Bulls during that that final season, and the way
that it was. It was in a small condensed area,
(09:26):
told through like twenty or thirty different people. Even though
the focus was like supposed to be on the entire story,
it was obviously.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Geared more towards one guy more than anybody else. This
was about Jerry, right, It's about Jerry.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's like the Last Dance was supposed about the team,
but it's obvious they were it was about It was
about Michael, right. I mean, some people are even calling
it one of the better sports documentary at least docuseries
is what it actually is of all time? Right, I
don't know how you compared it to did you every
scent the Last Dance?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I like the Last Dance? And I agree with
a lot of Michael what Michael Jordan said. But anyway,
that's where.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I thought, Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I thought his portrayal of Isaiah Thomas was spot on.
And I may Isaiah may be the nicest guy in
the world to some people, but the few times I've
been around him when I had to cover locker rooms,
I totally agree with his observation of Isaiah Thomas. Michael
Jordan called him something that I can't say on the radio,
but he's not wrong at least my experience is with
(10:25):
can you say what a rhymes with? It's another word
for a donkey? Let's get it okay, hey, real quick
as I know we're coming for a break. We do
have an update on the Cowboys roster moves.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So running back film MafA, there's seventh rond rookie who
actually played really well this preseason.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
They're gonna put.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Him on IR two return, so he's gonna miss the
first four games this season. He won't count against the
final roster, but likely they're going to go with the
with the two vets Javonte Williams, Miles Sanders, Jayden Blue,
and Hunter Luky as their backfield. And they'll see if
any of those guys don't cut after four games, but
film MafA will come back after week four.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
All right, Tommy Fleetwood is ten million dollars richer and
he finally is in the winner circle on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
We'll talk about that next. It's the Andy Everette Show
on the Ticket
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