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June 30, 2025 13 mins
BYU QB Jake Retzlaff’s sexual assault case has been dropped, as he enters the Transfer Portal.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Our number three of the program. Thank you for spending
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in just a little bit, and some more discussion on
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are going to get new players.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
There was a follow up.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Today on the case at BYU involving their quarterback or
soon to be former quarterback, Jake Ratzlaff. Jake Ratzliffe was
accused of sexual misconduct basically rape earlier last week, and
he admitted in a investigation by the school that he

(01:08):
did engage in consensual premarital sex, which is a violation
of the BYU honor code, and BYU basically said, well,
even if you didn't do what you're accused of doing,
you won't be playing football this year. You're going to
have to have a six or seven game suspension, which
he promptly replied to I'm going to be transferring anyway
because I don't necessarily am going to honor your honor code.

(01:32):
Every student, from my knowledge that goes to BYU has
to sign an agreement that they're going to follow the
honor code. Now, I don't know how strict they are
with things like caffeine and.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Smoking.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I do though that drinking and perimeral sex are
high on the list of things you can't do.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
You donight have caffeine and you're Mormon.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, i've seen the little card that they have on
the scores table at the basketball game and any kind
of I think there's certain times of day that you're
not supposed to Somebody that's a Mormon could tell us more.
But I do remember on the card that said you're
not supposed to consume things that have caffeine in Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well, I know that makes sense because you know there's
some religion like they have fast in at sundown like
in the Muslim religion they have what's called and.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I think in the Jewish religion on the on the
high holy days, they have sun up to sundown fasting
as well.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, they have, they had that sort of thing. So
I guess that would probably fall in the same line.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I just well, I don't All I know is that
when we were there, you know, ten twelve years ago,
I saw the card.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
And I was like, I'm out, so.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
But you don't. You don't drink that much caffeine and
then nighttime anyway, do you?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I drink these buy drinks have caffeine in them?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Do they?

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I've had Bio. I've had Buyo water before. I
didn't know they.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Caffeine, and I drink four. I drink five or six
of those a day. And I do drink different versions
of coffee drinks and stuff. I don't drink SODA's and
tea anymore. But yeah, that because it's got too much
sugar in it. And I had to stop consuming so much.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Because I know Mike doesn't drink tea or coffee. He
likes to He likes to drink those those bangles.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, or Red Bull energy drinks and you.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Know my go to I like tea, but I like
to mix with amino acids. That's that's my source energy.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Whatever, whatever you like. Some of the things are against
the roles at BYU. There was a guy named Brandon
Davies a few years ago that was suspended from the
basketball team for three days for the same situation.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And I don't want to make light of any kind
of a sexual assault charge. Sure, I'm you're a girl dad.
I'm a girl dad, and I have very lack of
respect for anybody that violates anyone in that way. But
I also know the reality of the world is is

(03:49):
that athletes, especially young male athletes going to whatever school,
are searching for girlfriends, relationships, and hookups, and they don't
necessarily fall in that order, especially the star quarter and
the star quarterback usually can have.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
He's got less, he had less issues blocking that.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yes, exactly, That's the best way I could describe it.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, I uh I, you know, I look at what
happened with Matt Eriza, and that was clearly a bad
decision on his part, but it wasn't unconsensual. And the
interview that he did with Andrea Kramer on HBO real sports.
One of the last ones that they did completely explained
his situation. He goes, I was I should not have

(04:34):
done what I did in the way I did it.
It's kind of disgusting when we talk about it. And
I understand that, but it wasn't It was not something
that both of us weren't engaging in consensually.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And I would assume so also depending on whether or
not you know what she admits to and does not
admit to would affect her status as a student at BYU.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
That shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
If she was raped, she should say she was raped,
and and she should go on with the prosecution of it,
and and Jake ratz Laft should never play football for
anybody ever. But today that suit was dismissed. They say
it was dismissed with prejudice. I'm not necessarily caught up
in the in the ways of the law in order
to be able to figure that out and know what
that means or not means. And I don't know that

(05:18):
it's relevant in this case because Jake Ratzlaff is gone
and as soon as he can find another school that
will take his transfer. But here's the question that I
posed earlier back in the not too long ago. Aj Demansta,
who's the best college high school basketball player, signed a
NIL deal worth seven million dollars to play basketball at BYU,

(05:38):
and b YU clearly has the assets to bid for
players in whatever sport that they want to bid for
in order to get the best players. And they BYU
wants to win a national championship in basketball, and they
the NCAA always makes provisions for them if they make

(05:58):
the tournament so that they are not in the Friday
Sunday side of the bracket because they can't play games
on Sundays. But my question has to be this, how
many players are they gonna outbid? Are they gonna win
the services for the next Aja Debansta or the next
Jake Retzlaf. And they're gonna go, oh, by the way,
you have to sign this honor code thing, and they're

(06:19):
going to look at it go no, because either you're
gonna sign it and break the code anyway, you're gonna
consume alcohol, You're gonna consume caffeine. If you get the opportunity,
you may engage in premieral activities. And all of those
are facets of BYU's honor code in the way that

(06:40):
they want their students and they want the representation of
their school to be as pure as they possibly can.
And if you like that, and you believe in that,
and that's your faith and those are your morals, more
power to you. But the overwhelming majority of athletes or
just in general students that go to a school aren't

(07:00):
are going to eliminate that if they have to agree
to the honor code and actually live up to it.
And I'm guessing Jake Rassler looked at that honor code
and goes, oh, yeah, I'll sign it so I can
play here and make whatever innile money I'm getting, but
I have no intentions of honoring it. And now that
it's how much is B why you going to police that?
Can they be the player that they want to be
on the college football and basketball landscape and then expect

(07:24):
the players that they outbid for services to come onto
their campuses to actually follow that code.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I think what's going to happen from this point forward
is that more national recruits and B why you does
get to the to their credit, they do get three
enforced recruits.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
What's going to happen?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
And the Church of Latter Day Saints is huge.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yes, I mean it is coast to coast and border
to border and worldwide. And there's plenty of athletes out
there that they can go get that will follow the code.
But are they are they as good as Aja debansta.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
It doesn't matter because I think what's happened next is
they're going to see what happens with Jake Retzlov what's
happening here, and they're going to They're not going to
get rid of the honor code, but they're going to
be more relaxed on it.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
When you don't know that they are, I think there's
that there may be some that are, but they're the
heads of that university, the president of that university that
has to report to the Mormon Church, that has to
report to the elders and whatever things that that are
out there. He may say behind closed doors, yeah, we're
gonna let the transgressions go, but he can't ever say

(08:23):
that publicly. Uh. And I think that's you know, whether
you think it's morally right, wrong or indifferent. We live
in a world where that's more acceptable than it's ever
been before, and will probably be more acceptable in even
further realms going forward. Uh not, But again I'm gonna

(08:43):
I do think that when you in when you involve
eighteen year old boys and girls in alcohol and parties,
and listen, whether it's at b y U or anywhere else,
those things are going to.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Go on and half parties it be way.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I don't know what they have, but I'm sure that
I'm sure they have unsanctioned one unsanctioned worships. I'm sure
they have. And I don't listen. I don't care what
your religion is. I don't care what your faith is.
You that's up to you. I'm not gonna ever judge
anybody's morality, right, and nor should anybody judge others. But
if you go to b YU and you're gonna go

(09:18):
there for a year, aj Demantsta by the by the
majority of the people that are watching him play basketball
are wink week assuming he's following the honor code. Sure,
now do they care about the honor code or they
care about going to the NCAA tournament, because at some
point they may not be able to have both.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
You know, not to not to go too far off
to but we do have some breaking news for you,
Andy and.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Gentlemens Dull Shamseron out of the world of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
The Denver Nuggets are trading Michael Porter Junior and a
unprotected twenty thirty second first twenty thirty two first round
pick to the Nets for Cam Johnson, so the Nuggets
get healthier and some offensive firepower. I'm one to that
the Nuggets are probably like the Nets are probably going
to like try and move Porter fight again.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, that's okay. I don't think it helps either team.
It's probably moving salaries more than it is anything else.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Helps the Nuggets at the very least, you know, because
like Cam Johnson's a guy who can gets you like
twenty points a game if nothing else.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, Porter's not a terrible player, unfortunately, Murray and Jokich
you're going to have the ball more than he does.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, but I mean the thing is Porter. His thing
is health. Yeah, it's been his thing anyway.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
We'll get to some more NBA news coming up here
in a second. But I do think that's a question
that the BYU coaches are going to have and administrators
are going to have to ask, do you want to
win championships at the expense of the honor code? And
can you win championships and still maintain the honor code. Yeah,
that would be like if now I don't I listen.

(10:50):
The Citadel is not going to win any championships anytime soon,
and Army and Navy likely aard either. But there's there's
certain things that Army and Navy officers and enlisted guys
in people that go to the academies cannot do, and
there are certain ways that they're expected to live their lives.
But they still play football and they still manage to

(11:10):
get it done.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't think they're winning national championships or conference championships
that much. The Army, I think has had chances in
the past to win the American Conference in football.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
But it's I think.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's the question that a lot of people are gonna
can take from this, amongst the other bigger picture that
there was an a rape allegation that has either been
dismissed because there didn't happen or dismissed because they just
don't want to go on with it. But Jake Ratsliffe's
going to go someplace else. It wouldn't surprise me if
he goes to another Big twelve school and plays against

(11:43):
BYU and has a good game against them, and now
they're sitting there going, well, maybe we should have waived
the honor code for him, because now he's going to
go to Colorado or or he's going to go to
you know, Arizona, Arizona State or Texas Tech and beat us.
And if you're going to try to win the Big
twelve and whatever sport that you're doing so, and you're
trying to do it with inferior athletes, it's not gonna work.

(12:06):
And so that's the question that we can throw out there.
Can you win and still have the standards that you expect.
Notre Dame faces this all the time in football. Sure,
Notre Dame does not take non qualifiers, and every other
school in the world takes four or five non qualifiers,
put the in remedial classes in the summer and gets
them to where they're eligible to play sports. And Notre

(12:28):
Dame says, absolutely not. This is our standard. If you
can't pass this test and you can't make this on
your act or your act, you're not getting in.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
If you're you.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Know, the second cousin to touchdown Jesus, you're not getting in.
And so it doesn't matter. But can b why you
stick to those those those same standards.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Early prediction for you.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'm gonna I'm gonna guess where Jake Ratzl is gonna go,
because this happens a lot when our players transfer out.
He's from Corona, California, and there's a school in southern
California that has had a really bad, bad luxury street
court back, but there any very winnable league. I think
he's gonna be a cal Golden Bear. I think he's
going to.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Cal that's Berkeley, that's pretty much northern California.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
But he's going back to California's the point he's from.
He's a California kid, was my point. And they and
they're they're quarterback. This kid, Fernando Mendoza.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Ever heard of him?

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
He has about as many interceptions as he has touchdowns,
and his two years as a star.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, I'm sure he's like, uh, the bidding process begins
in three two one, start telling me how much you're
paying me.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
I'll go to the highest bidder.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
And I don't think cal has an honor code like that.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Nobody else does.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
There's the exactly opposite.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
There's no one that has that on her code that
they do all right. The Steelers and Dolphins made a
trade today. We'll tell you about that and the implications involved.
And let's talk about the Spurs and what their substitution
slash lineup possibilities could all be.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
That's coming up on the ticket.
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