May 19, 2025 • 10 mins
T-Wolves wait is over as they will take on the Thunder in the WCF.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Let's start the show with basketball and the Thunder making
their move and having an opportunity now to take on Minnesota.
I really don't know how to handicap this series yet
because I think I think Thunder a better team, but
I think Anthony Edwards can make a difference too and
kind of offset whatever shay yiljis Alexander does. To me,
(00:26):
the success for the Thunder coming up is going to
be how the other players perform. How does how does
the Williams this play? How does Holmgren play? How does
Hartenstein play? And I think that the Thunder have more younger,
better players other than Anthony Edwards than Minnesota does.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Gobert can have.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
A twenty seven to twenty night when he wants to,
but he doesn't usually do it, and Ken Hartenstein and
Holmgren keep him off the keep him out of.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Having one of those monster nights.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I really am impressed with the fact that Aaron Gordon
tried to play yesterday and he was not in a position.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
To where he could do it very well.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But I just thought that the Thunder just gradually methodically
moved away. They were down eleven in the first quarter
and then made a little comeback and by the time
that we got around to the halftime, it was a
lead for Oklahoma City and then they blew it open
from there and went on to win.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
This.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I think we all want great games in game sevens,
and sometimes game seven's are amazing, and sometimes their blowouts.
But the one thing that caught up to Denver was
their short bench and their lack of depth. And basically
it was Russell Wethbrook and the other day Strather came
in and did okay, and it gave him a lyft
at home. But typically role players and I don't think
(01:51):
Westbrook is one. Westbrook is going to play good, play
well wherever he's at. But I think guys like Strather
and some of the young players that they had to
buy minutes usually perform better when they're at home. Then
when they're not at home, when they're on the road,
they tend to be secondary players because of their road
performance and whatever the intimidation factor is in some of
(02:13):
those buildings. So Thunder win. Now they've got to take
on Minnesota. This should be I'm going to kind of
go Thunder and six, but that would mean they'd win
Game six in Minnesota. So again I'm going to go
back to the same thing I said about the series
with Denver. I think this is five or seven because
(02:33):
if Oklahoma City can win the first two at home,
get one of the two there, then they close it
out and don't have to go back. But if they
lose a home game and or they don't play at
their optimum level for at least one of the games
on the road, then we're in for a series where
the home team is certainly going to have the advantage.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I as much as it pains me, I honestly think
that it's going to be Minnesota in six or seven.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Minnesota is for for.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Because of Edwards, because I can't stand I can't stand
Anthony Edwards and patient zero. I just they they are
to me, they match up really really well, and especially
in certain positions. Yes, Oklahoma City has the deeper bench,
but if you would have told me this was a
(03:25):
Julius Randall factor, Yes he's a factor. Yeah he plays
like he did in the last series. Yeah, but you
know you mentioned Chet Holmgren and Isaiah Hartenstein. Okay, if
you can keep Rudy Gobert in check and and check
what ten points, twelve boards, whatever, that's fine. But I
(03:46):
think Rudy Gobert it matches up a little bit better
with Chet Holmgren. He's gonna have well, for one, unless
Chet doesn't rely on the three ball, because we've seen
that at times Rudy go Beart has the good old
cement cement block feet.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Where you get him going one way and then he's done.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, you got to make sure that Gobert, I would
imagine Hartenstein guards him when on the other end, and
Home Gonnall play on Randoll or others.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But they'll switch that off from times.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But but that's the thing too, is as much as
people say that Wemby needs to gain weight, Chet Holmburn's
in the same in the same notion. I mean, Julius
Randall is that's a stock dude.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, the idea that home Grin and and Uh and
Wemby are going to gain weight, I think they should
gain muscle mass and that they should get stronger. But
and sometimes most times when you gain weight, you make
you are heavier because muscle, ways you know, is denser
than fat.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And so it's to me asking somebody that's got that
gangliness of a body and then asking them to gain
weight is a recipe for bad knees and bad ankles
and bad feet. Yeah, you can't get too heavy when
you don't have the basis support it. And so there's
an optimum level in what you can play at to
where you have to be strong and you have.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
To not put too much pressure on the lower extremities
or you're gonna you're gonna have a career full of
leg and lower body injuries. I mean, if nothing else,
it's definitely going to be an exciting series to watch.
Just with Shay and Anthony Edwards go go. I mean,
they're not going to go head to head to a
certain extent where they're going to they guard each other,
(05:29):
but just too and I know, again this pains me
to say it, but potentially a future MVP with Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You know, well, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Anthony Edwards the player is is an exceptional player, and
I think he can be a future MVP. My disagreement
with Anthony Edwards is the cockiness that he has off
the court in both basketball and the and an alleged
decision that he made earlier in the year. I have
(06:02):
a major problem with dads that don't want to take
care of their kids, and I know you didn't want one,
but you got one, so you have to deal with it,
and let's see, let's see if we can do something
about it. That's just a personal opinion that I have,
and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I don't really care.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But I think that Anthony Edwards has a responsibility to
himself and to that child to a to be as
good a d as he can be. But I don't
mind Anthony Edwards the player. What I mind is Anthony
Edwards going to Steve Current says I'm as good as
Kobe Bryant, give me the ball. You're not Kobe Bryant.
You're not even in the same light year as Kobe Bryant.
And if you do what you've been doing for the
next ten to fifteen years, maybe that conversation can take place.
(06:43):
And I love the fact that you have that much confidence,
but I don't like the fact that you want to
publicly display it. The one thing about Kobe and Michael,
and we can debate who's the better player, and most
people are going to say it's Michael, but Kobe was
a clone of him. Thing about it is not one
time did you ever see them telling people how good
(07:04):
they were Every time somebody said are you the best
basketball player ever? Are you the best basketball player of
this generation? The answer was, oh no, there's other people
that are just as good or better than me. And
you ask Anthony Edward's that question and the answer is
absolutely yes.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And I like the humbleness.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Even though Kobe, deep down in his mind he knew
he was the best player, Nobody's gonna beat me, and
I'm sure the MJ felt the same way. They were
never going to publicly say it or tell people I'm
the greatest of all time. Somebody else wants to say it,
that's great, but those two never did.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Seems to make sure that everybody knows that he's the
best player, at least he believes.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So yeah, yeah, So for again, for me, the X
factors is going to be does Julius Randall continue this
anomaly of a playoff stretch that he's going through where
he's averaging just under twenty four points a game? And
for Oklahoma City, I think it's I I don't know
which Jalen Williams it's this is, but it's the starting
(08:03):
Jalen Williams.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, I can't tell the difference.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So though I haven't I haven't watched enough Oklahoma City
basketball other than SGA highlights to determine, you know, which
Williams is which, and which one's more important and which
one's better. But they are certainly complimentary of one another.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, you know one thing we're going to have, Andy,
is we have a seventy five percent chance of a
brand new franchise winning this first ever NBA championship because
Minnesota's never won one, right, Oklahoma City has never won one, right,
Indiana Pacers never won one, right, and the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Were nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, fifty two years ago, so that's almost like they've
never won exactly. The one thing people have to understand,
and NBC and our ESPN and TNT sometimes do this
is the Sonics and the thunder are different entities. Correct,
All of the Sonics records still stay in Seattle. When
that team was purchased and moved, the city of Seattle
(09:02):
kept the records. And there is absolutely a no color scheme,
no thought process, no history between Oklahoma City and Seattle.
They just there was a change of venue and a
completely different, different franchise. So when the city of Seattle
gets another team as long as they call themselves the
(09:22):
Supersonic Slash Sonics, which they old records are going to
come in that ended in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see. It'll be interesting
to see.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I mean, for you and I this is great basketball,
and for the ratings people like our buddy Colin Cowherd,
he's probably just sitting here. I hope that I hope
that the New York Knicks win. Well, the world is
the world. The media world is hoping the next beat
the Pacers. I don't but you saw how again. We
know how cocky and annoying New York fans are, just
(09:56):
New York in general. But my goodness, you would have
thought that they'd literally just won the NBA Championship.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, they probably feel like they have getting this far
for the first time in twenty five years. All Right,
we got a golf tournament that was pretty good yesterday.
As Scotti is acting like Tiger again. We'll discuss that next.
It's the Andy Everage Show on the ticket
Let's start the show with basketball and the Thunder making
their move and having an opportunity now to take on Minnesota.
I really don't know how to handicap this series yet
because I think I think Thunder a better team, but
I think Anthony Edwards can make a difference too and
kind of offset whatever shay yiljis Alexander does. To me,
(00:26):
the success for the Thunder coming up is going to
be how the other players perform. How does how does
the Williams this play? How does Holmgren play? How does
Hartenstein play? And I think that the Thunder have more younger,
better players other than Anthony Edwards than Minnesota does.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Gobert can have.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
A twenty seven to twenty night when he wants to,
but he doesn't usually do it, and Ken Hartenstein and
Holmgren keep him off the keep him out of.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Having one of those monster nights.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I really am impressed with the fact that Aaron Gordon
tried to play yesterday and he was not in a position.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
To where he could do it very well.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But I just thought that the Thunder just gradually methodically
moved away. They were down eleven in the first quarter
and then made a little comeback and by the time
that we got around to the halftime, it was a
lead for Oklahoma City and then they blew it open
from there and went on to win.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
This.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I think we all want great games in game sevens,
and sometimes game seven's are amazing, and sometimes their blowouts.
But the one thing that caught up to Denver was
their short bench and their lack of depth. And basically
it was Russell Wethbrook and the other day Strather came
in and did okay, and it gave him a lyft
at home. But typically role players and I don't think
(01:51):
Westbrook is one. Westbrook is going to play good, play
well wherever he's at. But I think guys like Strather
and some of the young players that they had to
buy minutes usually perform better when they're at home. Then
when they're not at home, when they're on the road,
they tend to be secondary players because of their road
performance and whatever the intimidation factor is in some of
(02:13):
those buildings. So Thunder win. Now they've got to take
on Minnesota. This should be I'm going to kind of
go Thunder and six, but that would mean they'd win
Game six in Minnesota. So again I'm going to go
back to the same thing I said about the series
with Denver. I think this is five or seven because
(02:33):
if Oklahoma City can win the first two at home,
get one of the two there, then they close it
out and don't have to go back. But if they
lose a home game and or they don't play at
their optimum level for at least one of the games
on the road, then we're in for a series where
the home team is certainly going to have the advantage.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I as much as it pains me, I honestly think
that it's going to be Minnesota in six or seven.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Minnesota is for for.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Because of Edwards, because I can't stand I can't stand
Anthony Edwards and patient zero. I just they they are
to me, they match up really really well, and especially
in certain positions. Yes, Oklahoma City has the deeper bench,
but if you would have told me this was a
(03:25):
Julius Randall factor, Yes he's a factor. Yeah he plays
like he did in the last series. Yeah, but you
know you mentioned Chet Holmgren and Isaiah Hartenstein. Okay, if
you can keep Rudy Gobert in check and and check
what ten points, twelve boards, whatever, that's fine. But I
(03:46):
think Rudy Gobert it matches up a little bit better
with Chet Holmgren. He's gonna have well, for one, unless
Chet doesn't rely on the three ball, because we've seen
that at times Rudy go Beart has the good old
cement cement block feet.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Where you get him going one way and then he's done.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, you got to make sure that Gobert, I would
imagine Hartenstein guards him when on the other end, and
Home Gonnall play on Randoll or others.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But they'll switch that off from times.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But but that's the thing too, is as much as
people say that Wemby needs to gain weight, Chet Holmburn's
in the same in the same notion. I mean, Julius
Randall is that's a stock dude.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, the idea that home Grin and and Uh and
Wemby are going to gain weight, I think they should
gain muscle mass and that they should get stronger. But
and sometimes most times when you gain weight, you make
you are heavier because muscle, ways you know, is denser
than fat.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And so it's to me asking somebody that's got that
gangliness of a body and then asking them to gain
weight is a recipe for bad knees and bad ankles
and bad feet. Yeah, you can't get too heavy when
you don't have the basis support it. And so there's
an optimum level in what you can play at to
where you have to be strong and you have.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
To not put too much pressure on the lower extremities
or you're gonna you're gonna have a career full of
leg and lower body injuries. I mean, if nothing else,
it's definitely going to be an exciting series to watch.
Just with Shay and Anthony Edwards go go. I mean,
they're not going to go head to head to a
certain extent where they're going to they guard each other,
(05:29):
but just too and I know, again this pains me
to say it, but potentially a future MVP with Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You know, well, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Anthony Edwards the player is is an exceptional player, and
I think he can be a future MVP. My disagreement
with Anthony Edwards is the cockiness that he has off
the court in both basketball and the and an alleged
decision that he made earlier in the year. I have
(06:02):
a major problem with dads that don't want to take
care of their kids, and I know you didn't want one,
but you got one, so you have to deal with it,
and let's see, let's see if we can do something
about it. That's just a personal opinion that I have,
and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I don't really care.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But I think that Anthony Edwards has a responsibility to
himself and to that child to a to be as
good a d as he can be. But I don't
mind Anthony Edwards the player. What I mind is Anthony
Edwards going to Steve Current says I'm as good as
Kobe Bryant, give me the ball. You're not Kobe Bryant.
You're not even in the same light year as Kobe Bryant.
And if you do what you've been doing for the
next ten to fifteen years, maybe that conversation can take place.
(06:43):
And I love the fact that you have that much confidence,
but I don't like the fact that you want to
publicly display it. The one thing about Kobe and Michael,
and we can debate who's the better player, and most
people are going to say it's Michael, but Kobe was
a clone of him. Thing about it is not one
time did you ever see them telling people how good
(07:04):
they were Every time somebody said are you the best
basketball player ever? Are you the best basketball player of
this generation? The answer was, oh no, there's other people
that are just as good or better than me. And
you ask Anthony Edward's that question and the answer is
absolutely yes.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And I like the humbleness.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Even though Kobe, deep down in his mind he knew
he was the best player, Nobody's gonna beat me, and
I'm sure the MJ felt the same way. They were
never going to publicly say it or tell people I'm
the greatest of all time. Somebody else wants to say it,
that's great, but those two never did.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Seems to make sure that everybody knows that he's the
best player, at least he believes.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So yeah, yeah, So for again, for me, the X
factors is going to be does Julius Randall continue this
anomaly of a playoff stretch that he's going through where
he's averaging just under twenty four points a game? And
for Oklahoma City, I think it's I I don't know
which Jalen Williams it's this is, but it's the starting
(08:03):
Jalen Williams.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, I can't tell the difference.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So though I haven't I haven't watched enough Oklahoma City
basketball other than SGA highlights to determine, you know, which
Williams is which, and which one's more important and which
one's better. But they are certainly complimentary of one another.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, you know one thing we're going to have, Andy,
is we have a seventy five percent chance of a
brand new franchise winning this first ever NBA championship because
Minnesota's never won one, right, Oklahoma City has never won one, right,
Indiana Pacers never won one, right, and the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Were nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, fifty two years ago, so that's almost like they've
never won exactly. The one thing people have to understand,
and NBC and our ESPN and TNT sometimes do this
is the Sonics and the thunder are different entities. Correct,
All of the Sonics records still stay in Seattle. When
that team was purchased and moved, the city of Seattle
(09:02):
kept the records. And there is absolutely a no color scheme,
no thought process, no history between Oklahoma City and Seattle.
They just there was a change of venue and a
completely different, different franchise. So when the city of Seattle
gets another team as long as they call themselves the
(09:22):
Supersonic Slash Sonics, which they old records are going to
come in that ended in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see. It'll be interesting
to see.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I mean, for you and I this is great basketball,
and for the ratings people like our buddy Colin Cowherd,
he's probably just sitting here. I hope that I hope
that the New York Knicks win. Well, the world is
the world. The media world is hoping the next beat
the Pacers. I don't but you saw how again. We
know how cocky and annoying New York fans are, just
(09:56):
New York in general. But my goodness, you would have
thought that they'd literally just won the NBA Championship.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, they probably feel like they have getting this far
for the first time in twenty five years. All Right,
we got a golf tournament that was pretty good yesterday.
As Scotti is acting like Tiger again. We'll discuss that next.
It's the Andy Everage Show on the ticket
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