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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Why do we criticize Lebron James for not winning more
titles when other superstars present and past have had not
quite as bad a record as he has in the finals,
but very similar. We'll talk about that coming up. Malik Beasley, Yes,
he's in the news. Malik Beasley was about ready to
sign a contract extension and he was playing for Detroit.
(00:29):
Sixteen points game, a couple of rebounds, a couple of assists,
forty three percent field goal percentage, and he was going
to get forty three million dollars. And then the NBA
called the Pistons and said, you might want to hold
off on that extension because he is under investigation for gambling.
I hope it doesn't cost him forty three million dollars,
(00:50):
but if he gambled on himself or anybody else in
the NBA, I'm sorry your basketball career has ended.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
John z Porter two point zero, and you you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Are far more important than John tay Porter. I don't
get it. I don't understand what education process has to
be implemented. Yes, I know when you go to an
arena you see the fan duel and the draftking signs
all over the building. I know that when you go on.
When you listen to a TV broadcaster, radio broadcast, there's
in game odds now And the reason there is is
(01:23):
because those entities are paying the NBA and their teams
billions of dollars because the public out there loves to gamble.
And I also find it really sad that there are
a lot of athletes. There's a lot of players out
there that are getting harassed by gamblers when they don't
cover a prop bet or they don't cover a line,
(01:45):
and especially the youth, the college players, but the NBA
players are getting it too. I think Brunson from New
York was a Jalen Brunson was in this boat. Somebody
saw him on the street and said, man, I had
the Nickson seven and you guys, only one by you know,
one by eight or one by whatever it cost him
the money line. If you're not willing to lose the money,
(02:06):
then you can't bet if you're not if you're gambling
for a living, then you can't classify as a degenerate gambler.
If you're gambling to have fun, if you're going to
a casino or to a sports book, or to a
roulette wheel or blackjack or a slot machine, and you've
got a couple hundred bucks or a couple thousand bucks
or whatever you can afford, and this is your entertainment,
(02:26):
go for it. But if you're doing that based on
if I don't make this bet, if this bet doesn't happen,
I can't pay the mortgage, you need some help, and
you need some help if you're harassing players who don't
necessarily know that you made a bet, or if they
do know that you made a bet, they they know
somebody that made the opposite bet, or are they assumed such.
(02:48):
But with all of the education that is allegedly out
there for these athletes, when are they going to stop
making bets, and especially the silly prop bets. If you're
a Eliite Beasley and you're really hurting for money and
you're not sure you're gonna get the forty three million,
although I can't imagine you would do this, and you're
still in the game and your team is up up
(03:10):
twelve with two minutes to go, and the line is ten,
and you and you miss a basket on purpose, even
though that would be the worst thing in the world
to do, at least nobody's gonna know that you missed
a basket on purpose, and if the line changes from
twelve to ten or the outcome goes from one twelve
to one hundred to one twelve to one oh three,
the only people that are ever going to care.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And I'm not condoning it, and I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You should do it, but they where they're getting caught
on these prop bets. Malik Beasley plus three point four rebounds, Well,
I've already got three.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh, the rebound was right there. I think I'll let
it go over my head.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's so easy to track when you could have easily
gotten the rebound, and then somebody in your jurisdiction or in.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Your area was.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Was cashing in a ticket because you didn't get three
point four rebounds.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You only got three.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And it's the athlete has got to learn that when
you are participating in the sport, you cannot participate in
the gambling part of it. If you want to bet
on baseball as a basketball player, if you want to
bet on football or hockey, or you know which ant
crawls up the wall first, I don't care. But if
you have anything to do with the NBA, once you
(04:20):
sign that contract, until you are no longer collecting any
form of payment, and I would say even including NBA pension,
I don't think retired players should be allowed to bet
on the NBA because they have insider information and they
can get resources that nobody else can, and they can
have influence on players, especially if those players are There's
(04:41):
an old story that says that on every NBA charter
there's a card game. There's usually Poker or Gin or
whatever card game. The guys, the veterans on that team
want to play, and the rookies are broke before they
get off the tarmac for that plane is even in
the air going to whatever city they're going to. The
rookies who have money on them are broken. Whenever you
get your per DIA money sent to you, then you
(05:03):
zell it or venmo it to your teammates because you
just lost five hundred dollars in five minutes playing whatever
game you're playing on the bus. And those are harmless things,
but if you get too far behind, now you can
influence the outcome of a game. And who in the
world is betting on Alabama and LSU baseball in terms
(05:24):
of runs scored? They got The Alabama manager fired a
few years ago and peg for gambling. You're making stupid
bets to begin with, and you're doing it in casinos
that are constantly being monitored and flagged by the boys
in the desert because they can't afford to lose money.
And remember, for every bet that they take on one side,
they're begging for somebody else to bet the other. And
(05:47):
that's why the line constantly changes. I've told you this
story before, but when we got word that Frank Harris
wasn't going to play in the Frisco Ball a few
years ago, I think the reporter from k Set put
it on Twitter like it's seven twenty and from seven
twenty two to about eight fifteen, and we were in
the middle of the pregame show, so I was going
(06:08):
in a nine different directions. I look down up my
phone and it's just one text message after the next. Now,
some were general fans that were concerned about why isn't
Frank Harris playing, But the overwhelming majority of people that
were texting me wanted to know if he was playing
so they could go bet on the game.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I just turned my phone to silent.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I handed between me and Jay Riley and said I'm
not answering any of those texts until this game starts.
And because I don't want anybody to go bet on
UTSA or bet against Utsa or anybody else for that matter,
because I've got information that now is public and athletes
(06:46):
always have it. It's one of the reasons I don't
bet on games. I don't want people to think that
there's any kind of a propriety thing. And plus, listen,
I don't mind a bet on the at the horse races.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm not anti gambling.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think the States should have sports casinos and sports
gambling and casinos at the racetracks and casinos on the Riverwalk.
It is a vice that if you want to do it,
and you can do so responsibly, that's great. But if
you're a coach, if you're an administrator, if you're a player,
if you're someone that has access to what's going on
in the world and that could influence somebody who's going
(07:21):
to make a bet, you can't participate in any way,
shape or form. And Malik Beasley, whether he's betting on
the Pistons or on himself, or betting against the Pistons,
or betting against four or against the Pistons, or any
other team in the NBA is in a position of influence,
and I'm sorry, but if he gets caught, he's done
(07:41):
and should never be allowed to play organized basketball for
any league ever again.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
He is Pete Rose two point zero.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And let me ask you a question real quick, just
because I feel like there's a bigger thing going on
here than we're looking at you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Have you ever heard of proxies? Yeah? You know what
proxy is?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, Yeah, somebody is going to go so, hey, did
you know that your Malik, did you know that your
rebound total for the night's five?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I'm gonna bet you don't get five. Make sure you don't.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
No, no, no, I'm talking about like like the professional proxy.
Do you like a person who is at proxy?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Explain what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
A proxy is someone who am on behalf of somebody
else who was told by an associate of that person.
So basically, like beyond the middleman makes the bet for
that person.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's what I'm saying is is I'm playing in an
NBA game and you come to me and go, hey,
did you know you're over and under on points tonight
was fourteen?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, I'm gonna bet you don't make it. Is that
alright with you?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Make sure you only score thirteen and that guy goes
and makes the bet and splits the money with you later.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But there's there's usually a middle man in between the
player and the guy who actually makes the bet. That way,
the paper trail doesn't land on the player. That's kind
of what happened with you remember that Boston's college scandal.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
That happened in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yes, they had the other in that exactly that there
were proxy there were professional proxies all in that as well.
Where they were the players were able to earn their
money that way, but it was never really attached to
quote unquote the mafia. Even though the mafia qute unquote
doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Sure it is. They had.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
They had to have had the people in the middle
who are where they go between guys who would talk
for them at often.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, you're not gonna see whoever's playing for for the
basketball team having a conversation with Jimmy Conway, right, that
doesn't happen. There's there is a middleman in there that says, hey, uh,
the boys in uh in New York would like it
very much if you didn't win this game tonight or
didn't win it by this many points, uh And. But
(09:29):
it goes back to the integrity of the game. Every
league needs to have integrity in its game. And listen,
there's plenty of people that are in this business. I mean,
Dan Patrick and Colin Coward and Doug gottliebll not Doug
anymore because he's a coach, but but Colin uh And
and Jason McIntyre talk every week about what bets they're
gonna make and either they're going to Vegas or it's
(09:50):
legal in California. Are both all the all the power
in the world to them. But they should not be
doing that if there are any kind of of of
circle of influence where they think they you know, yeah,
they talk to general managers and they talk to coaches
and all that kind of stuff, but they're not giving
them information on whether or not somebody is gonna win
or not. And even though the player may be out
(10:12):
and hurt and your team may be at a disadvantage,
it still doesn't matter. That still doesn't mean that you're
going to win or lose the bet if you're not
gambling for recreational purposes only. But then again, a lot
of people can't watch a game unless they've got action
on it. And that comes back to whatever level of
gambling that you want to kind of get yourself into. Anyway,
(10:35):
Malik Beasley, you may be done and you may have
just squandered forty three million bucks. All right, let's get
into lebron discussion, and we've also got some golf talk
coming up.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's the Andy Everett Show. On the ticket
Why do we criticize Lebron James for not winning more
titles when other superstars present and past have had not
quite as bad a record as he has in the finals,
but very similar. We'll talk about that coming up. Malik Beasley, Yes,
he's in the news. Malik Beasley was about ready to
sign a contract extension and he was playing for Detroit.
(00:29):
Sixteen points game, a couple of rebounds, a couple of assists,
forty three percent field goal percentage, and he was going
to get forty three million dollars. And then the NBA
called the Pistons and said, you might want to hold
off on that extension because he is under investigation for gambling.
I hope it doesn't cost him forty three million dollars,
(00:50):
but if he gambled on himself or anybody else in
the NBA, I'm sorry your basketball career has ended.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
John z Porter two point zero, and you you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Are far more important than John tay Porter. I don't
get it. I don't understand what education process has to
be implemented. Yes, I know when you go to an
arena you see the fan duel and the draftking signs
all over the building. I know that when you go on.
When you listen to a TV broadcaster, radio broadcast, there's
in game odds now And the reason there is is
(01:23):
because those entities are paying the NBA and their teams
billions of dollars because the public out there loves to gamble.
And I also find it really sad that there are
a lot of athletes. There's a lot of players out
there that are getting harassed by gamblers when they don't
cover a prop bet or they don't cover a line,
(01:45):
and especially the youth, the college players, but the NBA
players are getting it too. I think Brunson from New
York was a Jalen Brunson was in this boat. Somebody
saw him on the street and said, man, I had
the Nickson seven and you guys, only one by you know,
one by eight or one by whatever it cost him
the money line. If you're not willing to lose the money,
(02:06):
then you can't bet if you're not if you're gambling
for a living, then you can't classify as a degenerate gambler.
If you're gambling to have fun, if you're going to
a casino or to a sports book, or to a
roulette wheel or blackjack or a slot machine, and you've
got a couple hundred bucks or a couple thousand bucks
or whatever you can afford, and this is your entertainment,
(02:26):
go for it. But if you're doing that based on
if I don't make this bet, if this bet doesn't happen,
I can't pay the mortgage, you need some help, and
you need some help if you're harassing players who don't
necessarily know that you made a bet, or if they
do know that you made a bet, they they know
somebody that made the opposite bet, or are they assumed such.
(02:48):
But with all of the education that is allegedly out
there for these athletes, when are they going to stop
making bets, and especially the silly prop bets. If you're
a Eliite Beasley and you're really hurting for money and
you're not sure you're gonna get the forty three million,
although I can't imagine you would do this, and you're
still in the game and your team is up up
(03:10):
twelve with two minutes to go, and the line is ten,
and you and you miss a basket on purpose, even
though that would be the worst thing in the world
to do, at least nobody's gonna know that you missed
a basket on purpose, and if the line changes from
twelve to ten or the outcome goes from one twelve
to one hundred to one twelve to one oh three,
the only people that are ever going to care.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And I'm not condoning it, and I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You should do it, but they where they're getting caught
on these prop bets. Malik Beasley plus three point four rebounds, Well,
I've already got three.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh, the rebound was right there. I think I'll let
it go over my head.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's so easy to track when you could have easily
gotten the rebound, and then somebody in your jurisdiction or in.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Your area was.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Was cashing in a ticket because you didn't get three
point four rebounds.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You only got three.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And it's the athlete has got to learn that when
you are participating in the sport, you cannot participate in
the gambling part of it. If you want to bet
on baseball as a basketball player, if you want to
bet on football or hockey, or you know which ant
crawls up the wall first, I don't care. But if
you have anything to do with the NBA, once you
(04:20):
sign that contract, until you are no longer collecting any
form of payment, and I would say even including NBA pension,
I don't think retired players should be allowed to bet
on the NBA because they have insider information and they
can get resources that nobody else can, and they can
have influence on players, especially if those players are There's
(04:41):
an old story that says that on every NBA charter
there's a card game. There's usually Poker or Gin or
whatever card game. The guys, the veterans on that team
want to play, and the rookies are broke before they
get off the tarmac for that plane is even in
the air going to whatever city they're going to. The
rookies who have money on them are broken. Whenever you
get your per DIA money sent to you, then you
(05:03):
zell it or venmo it to your teammates because you
just lost five hundred dollars in five minutes playing whatever
game you're playing on the bus. And those are harmless things,
but if you get too far behind, now you can
influence the outcome of a game. And who in the
world is betting on Alabama and LSU baseball in terms
(05:24):
of runs scored? They got The Alabama manager fired a
few years ago and peg for gambling. You're making stupid
bets to begin with, and you're doing it in casinos
that are constantly being monitored and flagged by the boys
in the desert because they can't afford to lose money.
And remember, for every bet that they take on one side,
they're begging for somebody else to bet the other. And
(05:47):
that's why the line constantly changes. I've told you this
story before, but when we got word that Frank Harris
wasn't going to play in the Frisco Ball a few
years ago, I think the reporter from k Set put
it on Twitter like it's seven twenty and from seven
twenty two to about eight fifteen, and we were in
the middle of the pregame show, so I was going
(06:08):
in a nine different directions. I look down up my
phone and it's just one text message after the next. Now,
some were general fans that were concerned about why isn't
Frank Harris playing, But the overwhelming majority of people that
were texting me wanted to know if he was playing
so they could go bet on the game.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I just turned my phone to silent.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I handed between me and Jay Riley and said I'm
not answering any of those texts until this game starts.
And because I don't want anybody to go bet on
UTSA or bet against Utsa or anybody else for that matter,
because I've got information that now is public and athletes
(06:46):
always have it. It's one of the reasons I don't
bet on games. I don't want people to think that
there's any kind of a propriety thing. And plus, listen,
I don't mind a bet on the at the horse races.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm not anti gambling.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think the States should have sports casinos and sports
gambling and casinos at the racetracks and casinos on the Riverwalk.
It is a vice that if you want to do it,
and you can do so responsibly, that's great. But if
you're a coach, if you're an administrator, if you're a player,
if you're someone that has access to what's going on
in the world and that could influence somebody who's going
(07:21):
to make a bet, you can't participate in any way,
shape or form. And Malik Beasley, whether he's betting on
the Pistons or on himself, or betting against the Pistons,
or betting against four or against the Pistons, or any
other team in the NBA is in a position of influence,
and I'm sorry, but if he gets caught, he's done
(07:41):
and should never be allowed to play organized basketball for
any league ever again.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
He is Pete Rose two point zero.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And let me ask you a question real quick, just
because I feel like there's a bigger thing going on
here than we're looking at you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Have you ever heard of proxies? Yeah? You know what
proxy is?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, Yeah, somebody is going to go so, hey, did
you know that your Malik, did you know that your
rebound total for the night's five?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I'm gonna bet you don't get five. Make sure you don't.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
No, no, no, I'm talking about like like the professional proxy.
Do you like a person who is at proxy?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Explain what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
A proxy is someone who am on behalf of somebody
else who was told by an associate of that person.
So basically, like beyond the middleman makes the bet for
that person.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's what I'm saying is is I'm playing in an
NBA game and you come to me and go, hey,
did you know you're over and under on points tonight
was fourteen?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, I'm gonna bet you don't make it. Is that
alright with you?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Make sure you only score thirteen and that guy goes
and makes the bet and splits the money with you later.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
But there's there's usually a middle man in between the
player and the guy who actually makes the bet. That way,
the paper trail doesn't land on the player. That's kind
of what happened with you remember that Boston's college scandal.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
That happened in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yes, they had the other in that exactly that there
were proxy there were professional proxies all in that as well.
Where they were the players were able to earn their
money that way, but it was never really attached to
quote unquote the mafia. Even though the mafia qute unquote
doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Sure it is. They had.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
They had to have had the people in the middle
who are where they go between guys who would talk
for them at often.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, you're not gonna see whoever's playing for for the
basketball team having a conversation with Jimmy Conway, right, that
doesn't happen. There's there is a middleman in there that says, hey, uh,
the boys in uh in New York would like it
very much if you didn't win this game tonight or
didn't win it by this many points, uh And. But
(09:29):
it goes back to the integrity of the game. Every
league needs to have integrity in its game. And listen,
there's plenty of people that are in this business. I mean,
Dan Patrick and Colin Coward and Doug gottliebll not Doug
anymore because he's a coach, but but Colin uh And
and Jason McIntyre talk every week about what bets they're
gonna make and either they're going to Vegas or it's
(09:50):
legal in California. Are both all the all the power
in the world to them. But they should not be
doing that if there are any kind of of of
circle of influence where they think they you know, yeah,
they talk to general managers and they talk to coaches
and all that kind of stuff, but they're not giving
them information on whether or not somebody is gonna win
or not. And even though the player may be out
(10:12):
and hurt and your team may be at a disadvantage,
it still doesn't matter. That still doesn't mean that you're
going to win or lose the bet if you're not
gambling for recreational purposes only. But then again, a lot
of people can't watch a game unless they've got action
on it. And that comes back to whatever level of
gambling that you want to kind of get yourself into. Anyway,
(10:35):
Malik Beasley, you may be done and you may have
just squandered forty three million bucks. All right, let's get
into lebron discussion, and we've also got some golf talk
coming up.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
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