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November 24, 2025 • 13 mins
Who were you disappointed in the Cowboys win?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I am your host for today and tomorrow, Sam Freeze.
Where'd we leave off Shane Calvin's winners and losers. I've
got a lot to get to, not just the winners either.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Let's start with the losers.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay, maybe you can explain this to me, because I
think I think a lot of people out there have
the same exact question I do. And I like to
think of myself as someone who has a firm grasp
of the rule book, right like I like to be
that guy at the gathering that people ask, well, wait,
why wasn't that a penalty? Or explain why? Hold on,

(00:41):
why was that a penalty? Why was that? I think
the refs have some explaining to do, starting first of
all the obvious one. Ryan Flonoy's blocked punt, Yeah, and
blocked very loosely with quotations around it. He got a
fingertip on it. He did what should have negated the
roughing the kicker.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Rcause he made contact with the ball first before making
contact with the kicker.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Similar to if a ball is tipped at the line
of scrimmage, you can't have pass interference.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
And if nothing else, like, really, what that should have
been was this? If you're gonna call a penalty on that.
It shouldn't be rough in the kicker because that essentially
means the ball still possessed by Philly.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
In this case, if you.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Want to call it a personal foul unnecessary roughness, that
would be a Dallas possession still because because because once
the ball is gone, Philly essentially gives up the ball,
but he and since Dallas may contact the ball first,
they then possess it. It should have been a fifteen
year OD penalty at the end of the of the
return still Cowboys ball. It should not have been running
to the rough and the kicker because at that point,

(01:41):
like you talked.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
About, the ball had already left.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, and anytime you make contact with that plant leg,
it's immediately going to get called usually ninety nine times
out of one hundred, which.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Is what I was screaming. I was saying, the ball
is already gone.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
He touched the ball, like I am not disputing that
he hit he hit the planet. Like that's how we're
disputing at all, right, Or we're disputing is the timing
because we technically, and this is literally how they define
the rules. Once the players punted the ball away and
the other the post team has touched it, whether it's
for a block or a turn, whatever it is. They
then assume possession of the ball, which is why when
a Philly player downs it, they can't possess it. Like
they can't take repossess the ball unless the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Touched it first, right, and as Fornoy tipped it, Dallas
then is the team on offense at that point.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And that's the problem is that they asked the official
in the pool report after the game official said they
looked at it. In this expedited replay that they've started doing.
The camera angles they had at the time didn't show
any contact Floornoy made with the ball, didn't tip it

(02:44):
in their original camera angles. It goes to commercial, comes back,
Fox then shows a super enhanced view that absolutely shows
the ball was tipped and the penalty shouldn't have been called.
So basically, one, the refs missed it on the field, Two,

(03:05):
the league's expedited replay missed it because they didn't have
a good camera angle from their broadcast partner, which was Fox.
And then three shod he missed it because if he
had challenged, that's something that can be overturned in a challenge,
and you would think in the time it would have
take to challenge it, Fox would have gotten the camera
angle there that would have shown it. Luckily, all of

(03:27):
that didn't end up mattering in the long run. But
I'll tell you, as it was happening live, it just
felt like, of course, of course, they just roughed the
punter because that's the way this game is going to go.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
The one I want you to explain to me though.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, when a receiver is in motion, Eagles run a
lot of pre snap motion receivers in motion aligneman. The
right guard is standing straight up, he bends down, taps
the center on the back. The receiver's still in motion.
The hasn't been set for a beat. How is that

(04:03):
not a false start? I know the Eagles have done
it all year, They've gotten it. It hasn't been called
a false start all season.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, But watching that over and over last night, and
it's also the deception that they run off of it,
because you'll notice when it's a hard count, when it's
when they don't snap it. The right guard hits the
center's back drops down into position. But as soon as
he does that, the left guard stands straight up again.
So it's clear, it's clear deceptive purposes.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
There's no there's no arguing that.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
And if they have a guy in motion, there can't
be two guys that don't get set before the snap.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
That's how the rule is, right.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
What I have to assume is is that, like so,
when a player is in motion, it's essentially the same
thing as an audible because he's going from where it
originally started to the other side of the field. In
that regard, whenever, like a team audible is they can
change formation, they can go from shotgun to under cent
or whatever it is. And so essentially it I have
to guess is that when the guard tapped the center,
that's part of the audible transition as well.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, I think I think, I like a like a
few things with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
The league office needs to.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Look at they sure do they seem to elsewhere losers.
We mentioned Turpin, maybe it's time to stop playing wide
receivers in the backfield shoddy.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I won't.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I won't give you bad marks on a lot of
things this season.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I actually think Turpin redeemed himself in the second half.
He had that nice return to the forty one, he
had that big catch.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Which as he was lined up in the slot, not
in the backfield. I think it's just maybe time let's
let's keep it, especially because another a winner, a guy
I have in the winners category.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
How about Malik Davis.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
How about giving them him a little boost, a little jolt,
something that Jaden Blue, something that they hadn't had since
it's Miles Sanders injury.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I don't disagree with Malik Davis has done really well
in the snaps he's had. He's been affected on special teams,
and I mean him and Javonte both have been really
good in pass protection.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So let's mention that Javonte Williams four and four basically
four and a half yards of carry yesterday exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
But the numbers you know.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
That allowed Dak to open up the play actions in
a second. His blitz pick up was in that last
pass to Pickens. Doesn't happen if Javante doesn't pick up
the blitz. He got absolutely lit up by Nakobe Dean
early in the game.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
That led to the Brevin span four touchdown.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's ten points that don't happen yesterday. If Javonte Williams
doesn't throw his body in front of violent linebackers blitzing.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I don't disagree, and I think that honestly, Javonte Javonte
and also Jake Ferguson, I'll mention him for a second,
both made plays that didn't show up on the stat
sheet that were they were huge in the team success
he had. Jake Ferguson had like those Yak catches down
the scene and all that. But if you remember on
Dak's touchdown run, as Jake Ferguson ran that little scene
route where he just like kind of faded.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Red perfectly, he read it perfectly.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
He kicked that guy out and allowed Dak to run
run inside get that touchdown run.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Absolutely, these non statistical plays that just factor into the game.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I think you can you know, if we're mentioning tight ends,
obviously a winner is Brevin span Ford catching his first
career touchdown for him, but also he's the highest graded
blocking run blocking tight end in the league this year.
Is it's minimum snaps because obviously he's your third tight end. Now,

(07:26):
oh yeah, I think he's past Scooney. Yuh. But when
Brevin span Ford is on the field, he is as
much as big a part of that run game success
as anybody in a Cowboys uniform. He's again things that
don't show up in a box score, Yeah, but absolutely
contribute to winning football.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Uh they might.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
They have a nice one too, Yeah, with especially with Ferguson,
the passing threat, Brevin span Ford, the physicality and the
blocking ability. If only they were just one tight end
together with both that both those.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Skill set, they were one tight end, they would be
gronk pretty much. Were you fusion danced them like a
dragon ball Z, they would be gronk.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah. I love the dragon ball Z reference.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Uh, Losers, I gotta say shoddy the fourth and three again,
I don't mind it, but the play call questionable. They
had two possessions where they got within two yards of
the goal line and came away with no points from
either of those two possessions. The final decision to go

(08:36):
for it on fourth and goal right they're in the
fourth quarter. I think I think there are kind of
like a lot of things in our country right now.
I think there are solid arguments to be made whichever position,
new school or old school you fall on. The new
school position would be analytics says go for it, you're

(08:57):
pinning them down within their own five yard line. Sure,
if you score a touchdown there, your odds of winning
that game are significantly higher than if you kick a
field goal. Despite Jake Elliott, who's in the loser category
for missing a fifty six yard or earlier in the game,
Xavier Gibson, despite his right, despite his miss, you're still

(09:19):
potentially giving the Eagles modified kickoff ball at the thirty
or thirty five. They only need twenty yards basically to
get into Elliott's range to tie the game. So if
you say, good decision by Shoddy for going for it there,
I can kind of understand. If you say, why the
hell didn't you just take the points in a game

(09:40):
where your defense has now shut them down for two
thirds of the game, then they haven't even gotten into
back into field goal position since the second quarter.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I think there you could go either way.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Obviously, it's a bit of a revisionist opinion being formed
when you see the fact that they don't get it
on fourth down, but then it works out in their
favor where they get the ball back eventually drive to
kick the game winning field goal.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I think an underrated start down because I think I'm
not started down. I'm listening to fan too much. A
loser for this game is and not to add insult
to injury, but I feel like Tyler Geiden like it
felt like he allowed.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
A little bit too much pressure yesterday, and obviously.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
He had the big penalty down at the one yard
line which went from fourth and one to fourth and
six as a false start. And then obviously you know
he's not gonna playt the sturge because he's dealing with
an ankle injury. So Nate Thomas is gonna fit in,
which I'm fine with because Nate Thomas, we all know,
is a better left tackle than right tackle.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Anyway, it would be a lot bigger problem if Terrence
Steele hadn't shown back up over the last two weeks.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
And that's and that's very fair.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I think what helps Terrence Steele out, honestly is that
it feels like I might be wrong, but it really
feels like they don't give Terrence Steele a lot of
opportunities to be beaten. They'll keep a tight end over there,
or they'll have Hunter Looky played from full back to
h back to where he had he chips a guy
or something like that along the.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Door, that's where you're span for it is coming exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
So they assist him in a way to where Taran
Steele can win more because in run blocking, Tarna Steele
is one of your better run blockers anyway.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yep, it's the past protection that's been hurting him.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, a bit of an issue there.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
The we mentioned Brady's possible ultimate slip up earlier in
the show. That's got I think that anytime you possibly
drop the an in bomb on national television as a
white dude, that puts you in the losers category.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
We're not laughing at this funy we'relaughing at it's uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
No, we're laughing because it's funny, because even he laughed
in the moment because he realized what he did. Also, whoops,
we haven't mentioned it all show yet.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
You got to call CD what it is. That's a
loser category for yesterday.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Seven drops in two games against the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's insane. It's hard to explain.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's like I'm trying to think of an NBA reference
for It's kind of like what Kawhi was whenever he
would go up against the Clippers with the Spurs it's
like it's like for It's like that was like that
that was the team that he always need to struggle against.
It felt like it wasn't just the warris Everyone struggles
the Warriors, but the Clippers, especially when they crispa on them.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
But that was like the one they kind of struggled with.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, I mean I heard, you know, some explanations of
well he was he was trying so hard to make
up for the drops in the first meeting that he
was thinking about them too much and was dropping it
like it is.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I think he sees George Pickens as emergent, as the
new favorite receiver in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Let's see similar to where CD was five years ago
with the Mari.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I don't even think I think there might be some
truth to that, but to one that the guys get
along so well and two Pickens had nine targets yesterday
he caught every single one of them. CD had eleven.
So if you say he one's emerged, he's seeing Pickens emerge, sure, sure,
but more targets than Pickens is And if he hadn't

(12:57):
had the drops, it wouldn't have been so bad. Let's
roll it over Because we've talked about the losers, let's
get into some of the winners next here
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