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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's been all Thunder this regular season. They rolled through
the NBA playoffs, they took down the Minnesota tim Roles
in the Western Conference Finals to get back to the
NBA Finals for the first time since twenty twelve. And
if you think about some of those teams who made
it during the finals in that time period, the fact
that the Thunder were able to essentially rebuild this entire
(00:24):
team after they lost to the Western Conference Finals in
twenty sixteen, a whole new roster, a whole new superstar,
a whole new MVP, and they're back in the NBA Finals.
They are the heavy favorite against the Indiana Pacers. And
we're gonna get to that here in a second. But
if you missed our conversation a little bit earlier in
the show about the NBA on TNT moving from TNT
(00:47):
obviously with Inside the NBA, with Charles and Shaq and
Kenny and EJ moving from TNT to ESPN, we had
that conversation and I would say, the only real thing
you need to be worried about is they decide to
cut into the programming. The reason that we love Inside
the NBA is for that back half. The reaction to
that Thursday night game where Charles can be Charles at
(01:09):
one in the morning.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, luckily for you.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
According to Front Office Sports, which is a blog that
kind of keeps up on the business side of the
NBA or the sports is entertainment right properties, they have
come out with the report saying that do not worry
fans that ESPN is not going to touch it. They're
going to leave it exactly the same. It's going to
be the exact same show that the reason that they
(01:33):
bought the program after twenty years on the air to
bring over after T and T loses the NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
They're not messing with the formula.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
They're going to keep everything the exact same that those
of us that are worried or naysayers and doomsday is okay.
So according to ESPN, according to Mikii House and Disney,
they are not making any changes.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You heard it here first June.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Second, we'll talk again in October and see if they
actually keep their work. We'll see how that goes. The
NBA Finals starts on Thursday, and it's a battle between
two all NBA point guards. It's going to be SGA,
who's the MVP. Led the league in scoring has been
a entirely. I would say offensive juggernaut. We talked about
(02:13):
Nickole Yokic being the best player on the planet, well
Sga might be the best offensive player on the planet
with his ability to score from all three levels and
get to the free throw line. And in the NBA
in the twenty first century, the role of the point
guard has changed. You think about Mattic Johnson as they
had Thomas and John Stockton, guys who are sending up
the offense and dishing it. NBA players are so smart
(02:34):
now you don't necessarily need that type of floor In general.
You want all five players on the court to be
able to score. You want to look at a reason
that the Timberwolves aren't in the finals and the Thunder are.
It's because they couldn't put five guys on the court
that could score all the same time. Jay McDaniels couldn't
score in stretches, where to go Bert couldn't score in stretches,
whereas the Thunder had five guys who could consistently score,
(02:55):
whereas the Pacers have had five guys who can consistently score.
The basket fotball, those are the teams that are making
it to the finals. Now, so SGA being this offensive juggernaut,
being the leading scorer in the league, well, it kind
of makes some sense. And Halliburton is the antithesis to that.
Where SGA scored thirty points per game, well, Tyre's Halliburton
(03:16):
is averaging about eighteen points per game in these playoffs.
So it is a difference in style when it comes
to that point guard position. Like I said, you think
back to the olden days quote unquote for some of us,
like twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, you're thinking
about point guards who are distributing the basketball, who are
making sure your offense runs smoothly and correctly. Whereas SGA
(03:37):
is that offense. He is the guy who is making
sure your offense is running smoothly.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He is in the same vein, the same.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Cut of cloth as his predecessor, Russell Westbrook was, as
guys like Steph Curry are still currently. He is that
mold point guard where Tyre's Talliburton is much closer to
the old school Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Chris Paul.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
He's in that vein.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
This is going to be a difference in styles of basketball.
And that's why I said earlier, when you talk about
those people who are going to wax poetically for the
next five days about how oh we need big market teams.
This final series might be the most intriguing finals that
we've had like five to ten years. Like last year's
(04:23):
Mavericks and Celtics, I wasn't that interested in because the
Celtics were obviously the best team, and the Mavericks took
out a young, up and coming thunder team to get
to the NBA Finals. A couple of years prior, Miami
in eight seed mixed to the Finals. They were running
on fumes by the time they got there, and the
Nuggets had Nickola Yolks the MVP. I wasn't that interested.
Suns in Bucks. I'm cool with that. But it's coming
(04:44):
off a pandemic, a condensed season, and then we go.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Back to the bubble, which is all weird.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So this finals to me in the last five years,
is the most intriguing because of the styles of offense.
Oklahoma City wants to go up and down with you.
They want to get excited. They want to have the
SGA running that half court offense, whereas the Pacers have
a more defensive style of play. They've got guys like
Pascal Siakam and Miles Turner who can get you down
low and really bang with you. And when we looked
(05:10):
at the Eastern Conference Finals, Tyres Haliburton didn't win the
Eastern Conference Finals MVP, which is a atrocious He was robbed.
They give it to Pascal Siakam, who had more consistent
games throughout the series. But Halliburton was obviously the best
player on the court. He obviously was the reason that
they were there and winning those games. He had a
game winner. Come on, he was giving the choke side
(05:30):
of the Knicks crowd. He became the embodiment of Indiana basketball.
Yet he took the mantle from Reggie Miller. That is
what I want to see out of a pacer. I
want to see a pacer going to Madison Square Garden
and drive those celebrity fans and those million dollar seats
out of their mind. That's what I want out of
a pacer. So he did that. He should have won
the Eastern Conference Finals MVP. He is going to come
(05:53):
into this series now and potentially shift the marker for
what it means to be a point guard. And we
see in the NBA it's a copycat league. What works,
everybody else wants to take it and work with it. Hey,
the Spurs are passing the ball, They're playing a beautiful game.
Assists up across the league, teams are trying to get
(06:13):
guys who can facilitate and move the ball around. Hey,
Spurs are resting guys. Well, you know, everybody else in
the league is gonna kind of sick guys. And we're
playing for May and June. We're not so interested in
November Tuesday, back to back. Right, the Warriors are shooting threes.
A generational three point shooter in Steph Curry. Well, guess
what now, Jalen Brown's taking ten threes a game. Okay,
(06:34):
now we got offensive big men who a decade ago
are Roy Hibbert are now carling athey Town's taking thirty
five footer forty footers.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's a copycat league.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
If Tyree's Halliburn and the Pacers win the championship this year,
you're going to see teams try to recreate that. We
want facilitators. We don't necessarily need a point guard that
could shoot from forty five feet away, like Damian Lillard.
We would rather have a guy like Tyers Halliburton who
maybe isn't the greatest three point shooter, but can facilitate
can get your offense running right. We don't necessarily need
(07:04):
to have a giant big man in the middle. Miles
turn will work. We need somebody that can rebound and
bang down low. How does this affect the Spurs should
be the question on everybody's mind. The winner of this
series will dictate how the NBA's played going forward. We're
gonna copy what they're doing. If the Oklahoma City Thunder win,
you're gonna see a lot of teams try to build
big men. Hey, I wanted two twin Towers. Luckily for
(07:26):
the Spurs they got Victor Women Yama. You just need
to go find another guy who's six foot nine and above.
If the Pacers win, hey, we want to slow ride
it out defensive games. We want to have a little
better half court offense. Well again, guess what Spurs fans
got Victor Women Yam. But you can do that too,
So the Spurs are fine set up in either way
this series goes, I would lean towards the Thunder. As
(07:50):
we're talking about a Monday Thursday game, I'm leaning towards
the Thunder to win this series. Just because they have
the MVP, because they have that size, because they have Jdab,
because they have higher and side and chat. I just
think that they are better suited to win in this moment,
and they have the championship pedigree. The guy guy like
Alex Cruzo coming off the bench, who has won a championship,
who has been a contributing role player, who knows what
(08:11):
it's like to be in those big moments, he can't
understate that I'm going thunder. I'm going thunder in six.
I think the Pacers win at least one game at
home with that crowd and those fans. But I for
the most part, it's going to be Oklahoma City Thunder basketball,
and that is going to be the style of play
that people are trying to copycat going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So if you're asking me like who I think will
win this series, I talked about it in the first hour.
The Pacers matchup better with Okay See than the Knicks two,
especially down low. And as far as like championship pedigree goes,
you mentioned Ala Caruso, don't forget about your guy, Pascal Siakam.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But with the.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Pacers, when I see them, I do see a team
that can they like to quote unquote control the pace
of play.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
They do. They are a team that has very much
momentum focus. They like to quick.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Whatever they do offensive and defensively is how they control
the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Okay, See, they seem to be not.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Only very deep, very dangerous offensive and defensively, they're very adaptable.
They're very adaptable to changes that happen in the game.
If the teams are shooting a lot of threes, they
are able to adapt better than a lot of teams
in the league. That's why they lost fourteen games they had.
They are They're a very good second half adapting team.
And so I am picking the Thunder, but I'm picking
them in five. I am going for the gum in sweep,
all right. I have no disrespect for the Pacers, and
(09:20):
I'm happy they're there and all that stuff like that.
But I don't see anything in this that tells me
it's gonna be any different than what last year's Celtics
Maths series was, which is, while the story might be
the Pacers, the dominant team is the better team for
the reason, for a reason.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
We will see what happens, all right, when we come back.
We will wrap up the Andy Everags Show and send
you on your way on sports Radio AM seven sixty
The Ticket
It's been all Thunder this regular season. They rolled through
the NBA playoffs, they took down the Minnesota tim Roles
in the Western Conference Finals to get back to the
NBA Finals for the first time since twenty twelve. And
if you think about some of those teams who made
it during the finals in that time period, the fact
that the Thunder were able to essentially rebuild this entire
(00:24):
team after they lost to the Western Conference Finals in
twenty sixteen, a whole new roster, a whole new superstar,
a whole new MVP, and they're back in the NBA Finals.
They are the heavy favorite against the Indiana Pacers. And
we're gonna get to that here in a second. But
if you missed our conversation a little bit earlier in
the show about the NBA on TNT moving from TNT
(00:47):
obviously with Inside the NBA, with Charles and Shaq and
Kenny and EJ moving from TNT to ESPN, we had
that conversation and I would say, the only real thing
you need to be worried about is they decide to
cut into the programming. The reason that we love Inside
the NBA is for that back half. The reaction to
that Thursday night game where Charles can be Charles at
(01:09):
one in the morning.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well, luckily for you.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
According to Front Office Sports, which is a blog that
kind of keeps up on the business side of the
NBA or the sports is entertainment right properties, they have
come out with the report saying that do not worry
fans that ESPN is not going to touch it. They're
going to leave it exactly the same. It's going to
be the exact same show that the reason that they
(01:33):
bought the program after twenty years on the air to
bring over after T and T loses the NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
They're not messing with the formula.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
They're going to keep everything the exact same that those
of us that are worried or naysayers and doomsday is okay.
So according to ESPN, according to Mikii House and Disney,
they are not making any changes.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
You heard it here first June.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Second, we'll talk again in October and see if they
actually keep their work. We'll see how that goes. The
NBA Finals starts on Thursday, and it's a battle between
two all NBA point guards. It's going to be SGA,
who's the MVP. Led the league in scoring has been
a entirely. I would say offensive juggernaut. We talked about
(02:13):
Nickole Yokic being the best player on the planet, well
Sga might be the best offensive player on the planet
with his ability to score from all three levels and
get to the free throw line. And in the NBA
in the twenty first century, the role of the point
guard has changed. You think about Mattic Johnson as they
had Thomas and John Stockton, guys who are sending up
the offense and dishing it. NBA players are so smart
(02:34):
now you don't necessarily need that type of floor In general.
You want all five players on the court to be
able to score. You want to look at a reason
that the Timberwolves aren't in the finals and the Thunder are.
It's because they couldn't put five guys on the court
that could score all the same time. Jay McDaniels couldn't
score in stretches, where to go Bert couldn't score in stretches,
whereas the Thunder had five guys who could consistently score,
(02:55):
whereas the Pacers have had five guys who can consistently score.
The basket fotball, those are the teams that are making
it to the finals. Now, so SGA being this offensive juggernaut,
being the leading scorer in the league, well, it kind
of makes some sense. And Halliburton is the antithesis to that.
Where SGA scored thirty points per game, well, Tyre's Halliburton
(03:16):
is averaging about eighteen points per game in these playoffs.
So it is a difference in style when it comes
to that point guard position. Like I said, you think
back to the olden days quote unquote for some of us,
like twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, you're thinking
about point guards who are distributing the basketball, who are
making sure your offense runs smoothly and correctly. Whereas SGA
(03:37):
is that offense. He is the guy who is making
sure your offense is running smoothly.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He is in the same vein, the same.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Cut of cloth as his predecessor, Russell Westbrook was, as
guys like Steph Curry are still currently. He is that
mold point guard where Tyre's Talliburton is much closer to
the old school Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Chris Paul.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
He's in that vein.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
This is going to be a difference in styles of basketball.
And that's why I said earlier, when you talk about
those people who are going to wax poetically for the
next five days about how oh we need big market teams.
This final series might be the most intriguing finals that
we've had like five to ten years. Like last year's
(04:23):
Mavericks and Celtics, I wasn't that interested in because the
Celtics were obviously the best team, and the Mavericks took
out a young, up and coming thunder team to get
to the NBA Finals. A couple of years prior, Miami
in eight seed mixed to the Finals. They were running
on fumes by the time they got there, and the
Nuggets had Nickola Yolks the MVP. I wasn't that interested.
Suns in Bucks. I'm cool with that. But it's coming
(04:44):
off a pandemic, a condensed season, and then we go.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Back to the bubble, which is all weird.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So this finals to me in the last five years,
is the most intriguing because of the styles of offense.
Oklahoma City wants to go up and down with you.
They want to get excited. They want to have the
SGA running that half court offense, whereas the Pacers have
a more defensive style of play. They've got guys like
Pascal Siakam and Miles Turner who can get you down
low and really bang with you. And when we looked
(05:10):
at the Eastern Conference Finals, Tyres Haliburton didn't win the
Eastern Conference Finals MVP, which is a atrocious He was robbed.
They give it to Pascal Siakam, who had more consistent
games throughout the series. But Halliburton was obviously the best
player on the court. He obviously was the reason that
they were there and winning those games. He had a
game winner. Come on, he was giving the choke side
(05:30):
of the Knicks crowd. He became the embodiment of Indiana basketball.
Yet he took the mantle from Reggie Miller. That is
what I want to see out of a pacer. I
want to see a pacer going to Madison Square Garden
and drive those celebrity fans and those million dollar seats
out of their mind. That's what I want out of
a pacer. So he did that. He should have won
the Eastern Conference Finals MVP. He is going to come
(05:53):
into this series now and potentially shift the marker for
what it means to be a point guard. And we
see in the NBA it's a copycat league. What works,
everybody else wants to take it and work with it. Hey,
the Spurs are passing the ball, They're playing a beautiful game.
Assists up across the league, teams are trying to get
(06:13):
guys who can facilitate and move the ball around. Hey,
Spurs are resting guys. Well, you know, everybody else in
the league is gonna kind of sick guys. And we're
playing for May and June. We're not so interested in
November Tuesday, back to back. Right, the Warriors are shooting threes.
A generational three point shooter in Steph Curry. Well, guess
what now, Jalen Brown's taking ten threes a game. Okay,
(06:34):
now we got offensive big men who a decade ago
are Roy Hibbert are now carling athey Town's taking thirty
five footer forty footers.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's a copycat league.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
If Tyree's Halliburn and the Pacers win the championship this year,
you're going to see teams try to recreate that. We
want facilitators. We don't necessarily need a point guard that
could shoot from forty five feet away, like Damian Lillard.
We would rather have a guy like Tyers Halliburton who
maybe isn't the greatest three point shooter, but can facilitate
can get your offense running right. We don't necessarily need
(07:04):
to have a giant big man in the middle. Miles
turn will work. We need somebody that can rebound and
bang down low. How does this affect the Spurs should
be the question on everybody's mind. The winner of this
series will dictate how the NBA's played going forward. We're
gonna copy what they're doing. If the Oklahoma City Thunder win,
you're gonna see a lot of teams try to build
big men. Hey, I wanted two twin Towers. Luckily for
(07:26):
the Spurs they got Victor Women Yama. You just need
to go find another guy who's six foot nine and above.
If the Pacers win, hey, we want to slow ride
it out defensive games. We want to have a little
better half court offense. Well again, guess what Spurs fans
got Victor Women Yam. But you can do that too,
So the Spurs are fine set up in either way
this series goes, I would lean towards the Thunder. As
(07:50):
we're talking about a Monday Thursday game, I'm leaning towards
the Thunder to win this series. Just because they have
the MVP, because they have that size, because they have Jdab,
because they have higher and side and chat. I just
think that they are better suited to win in this moment,
and they have the championship pedigree. The guy guy like
Alex Cruzo coming off the bench, who has won a championship,
who has been a contributing role player, who knows what
(08:11):
it's like to be in those big moments, he can't
understate that I'm going thunder. I'm going thunder in six.
I think the Pacers win at least one game at
home with that crowd and those fans. But I for
the most part, it's going to be Oklahoma City Thunder basketball,
and that is going to be the style of play
that people are trying to copycat going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So if you're asking me like who I think will
win this series, I talked about it in the first hour.
The Pacers matchup better with Okay See than the Knicks two,
especially down low. And as far as like championship pedigree goes,
you mentioned Ala Caruso, don't forget about your guy, Pascal Siakam.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But with the.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Pacers, when I see them, I do see a team
that can they like to quote unquote control the pace
of play.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
They do. They are a team that has very much
momentum focus. They like to quick.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Whatever they do offensive and defensively is how they control
the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Okay, See, they seem to be not.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Only very deep, very dangerous offensive and defensively, they're very adaptable.
They're very adaptable to changes that happen in the game.
If the teams are shooting a lot of threes, they
are able to adapt better than a lot of teams
in the league. That's why they lost fourteen games they had.
They are They're a very good second half adapting team.
And so I am picking the Thunder, but I'm picking
them in five. I am going for the gum in sweep,
all right. I have no disrespect for the Pacers, and
(09:20):
I'm happy they're there and all that stuff like that.
But I don't see anything in this that tells me
it's gonna be any different than what last year's Celtics
Maths series was, which is, while the story might be
the Pacers, the dominant team is the better team for
the reason, for a reason.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
We will see what happens, all right, when we come back.
We will wrap up the Andy Everags Show and send
you on your way on sports Radio AM seven sixty
The Ticket
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