April 28, 2025 • 14 mins
The Cleveland Browns land the QB after a surprise fall.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It is a Monday afternoon, it is post draft time.
I don't know if anybody else noticed this or not,
but the player that had the least amount of pizazz,
if you will, in the way that they conducted themselves
at the draft was the number one pick.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Cam Ward. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We talked about that on Friday with a Dylan filling
in for you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
By the way, how was Friday seventy nine?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh man, Come on, Andy, Gordland's not going to accept that.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I got to be better before Scotland. I still got
to work out some issues with the driver. It's just
not getting in play right now, or it's not going
where I'm aiming. Sometimes it's in play, but it's not
what I was expecting it to do. Well, we'll get
there before before May twenty fourth, we hope, all right.
Cam Ward was conservatively dressed compared to everybody else, had
(00:53):
a simple gold necklace on, nothing flashy, not the dollar
signs that looked like they cost on one hundred thousand
dollars to buy the chain, and was very humble and
was very excited about being there, and not that some
of the other ones weren't. I thought when Matthew Golden
got picked. That was he goes to Green Bay. He
was loving that and playing up the crowd. Now you
(01:14):
have to have one of your Texas guys in a
cowboy hatred team. But this goes back to the Shador
Sanders thing. If you were as good as your dad was,
and you could lock down an area of the field,
or you could throw a hundred yards, or if you
had the prototype quarterback skill set and you were quote
(01:36):
unquote the can't miss project, you can be a little
bit cocky and you can be a little bit brash.
Right now, in college sports, we have something that is
a phenomenon that's never existed in college sports. Before you recruit,
if a coach walks into your into your kid's house,
the kids first question, more often than not, is how
(01:56):
much am I going to get paid? It's never where
do I stand on the quarterback to depth chart. It's
never what kind of a degree program do you think
I should get into it. It's never what are my
opportunities and what are the traditions at Texas or Oh
You or Alabama or wherever you're being recruited. It's all
about where's my money and how much am I getting it?
(02:18):
And how often does I get paid? And how much
do I get up front? That's all they care about.
And if you're eighteen years old and you've never seen
money in your life and you are you don't know
anything about savings accounts, and you don't know anything about iras,
and you don't know anything about investing, and you know
you don't have anybody in your family that knows anything
(02:38):
about it, You're probably going to go cash the check
and spend it all in twenty minutes, and so you
go buy flashy things with it, and you show up
on campus like, well, I got more than everybody else does.
It's the the glitter has has some It may not
be gold, but to somebody it looks like it is.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And you're always.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
When you're when you're when you're that entitled, and your
thought is, no matter what the situation is, I'm gonna
get paid and I'm the best player here and it's
just going to transition into the next level when I
go pro. And to think a few months ago, Dion
was saying there's there's certain teams that we don't want
to draft Shaedoor, and by Friday night they're like, please, God,
(03:24):
could anybody draft him?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So this embarrassment could end.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I can't prove that the NFL owners colluded together, because
Cleveland probably would have taken him with the second pick
in the draft if he'd have been really, really good and.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Humble or just humble. But I can't say that.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, the Browns are going to pick first in the
fifth round. We're going to make an example out of
out of Shador by drafting him in the fifth round.
So I said in the first segment, it's an easy
wave if he doesn't turn out to be very good,
and it's a cheap quarter back for four years if
he turns out to be your best player. Football players
(04:05):
and athletes in college have become so ridiculously entitled that
they think that is going to follow them for the
rest of their life. And I think he is the
poster child for if you're not gonna be humble, and
you're not going to come in here thinking that you
don't know it all and and I'll just use the
Frank Harris mentality, for lack of a better word, come
(04:25):
in here and say, I'm just here, I'm happy to
be here. I hope I get an opportunity to play
when we win. It's the other guys that didn't get
all the credit. When we lose, I take all the blame.
Shaud Door has never been that guy. Dion has never
taught him to be that guy. In a lot of ways,
Dion has taught Shouldur to be like Tiger Woods's dad
(04:48):
did with Tiger. Don't speak to anybody, Just be stoic.
The only thing is is Tiger just happened to be
the best there was. Should Door is not quite the
best that there ever was. There's a lot said about
the fact that he has a high completion percentage, but
he has a weak arm, so that percentage is good
in college because he can pick and choose where he
throws it, and there's always going to be a weak
(05:10):
link in somebody else's secondary that you can exploit. In
the NFL, there are no weak links. They're all strong links,
so some are just not as strong as others. If
you don't have arm strength, you cannot throw an out
pattern because if that ball gets there a half a
second late, it's a pig six. In college, you can
get there half a second late, especially if you're throwing
to their weaker defender, because that guy can't get it.
(05:31):
Even if you were two seconds late, and there was
discussion on Saturday. I was driving to the golf course
and listening to the guys of the NFL network, and
they were saying, why not challenge the college rule and
go back to college. Just have your agent call all
the teams and say don't draft me. And then now,
right now, legally he's not allowed to go back and
(05:52):
get that fifth year of eligibility that he still has
or sixth or whatever it is, because once you enter
the put your name up for draft, you can't pull
your name out. Well why not, Well it's an NCAA violation. Well, NBA,
every time you squint in their direction, they cave on
every legal issue that there is. So he could have
(06:12):
made more money by going back to Colorado for a year.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think Colorado already signed a player and that player
would have probably left ten seconds after the decision was
made if he was coming back. He's not going to
do that, but there was discussion about that on Saturday.
He's not in a terrible spot with the Browns. Deshaun
Watson is going to eventually be waived. I would bet
Deshaun Watson never plays another down for the Browns. He's
going to set out this year on his medical exemption
(06:37):
with the Achilles, and then next year they're going to
wave him and they're going to eat the money. I
don't think Dylan Gabriel is great. I think he's going
to eventually get waived and be on somebody else's team.
Canny Pickett suck forever in Pittsburgh. I can't see him
being better on a team that's not as good as Pittsburgh.
And Joe Flacco should be there to teach Shedeor Sanders
(06:58):
and the first day in that that quarterback meeting room,
Chaudeur should not have his hat on backwards or sideways.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He should walk over.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
To the to the UH, to the to Flaco and
go teach me everything you know. I'm here to learn
and be serious about it. The way that you carry
yourself and the way that you act is is as
important going forward for Shad Dour Sanders as it is
whatever skill set that he has, and I think that
(07:27):
I think he could be a He could beat the
number two quarterback before the season begins, and he could
get some snaps by week six or seven, and he
could be the starter by the end of the year.
Very much like Michael Pennix was if he is humble
and if he is going to actually truly be a
leader of a football team. What we saw at Colorado
(07:48):
was he was doing whatever his dad told him to do.
And this is one of the reasons why I've said
for a while that I think Chador will be better
off when he's not under the wing of his dad.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's time for him to grow up.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's time for him to be his own guy and
do whatever it is that he wants to do. And
if he listens to Flacco and does so intently and seriously,
and you know, quit if you're going to go on
a road trip, leave your one hundred thousand dollars Rolex
at home. Your iPhone will tell just as good a
time and no one's going to see you on the
road trip anyway. You want to wear it because a
(08:21):
sponsor says that you need to wear it during interviews.
You look at all these golf interviews and you see
the players. The first thing they do is put on
the watch after the round. Well they don't, they're not
required to wear the watch during the round, but if
they want to get paid for endorsing that watch, then
they put it on for the interviews and pre and
post stuff, and so you know, if that's why you're
bringing it along, so that because Rolex or Boulevard or
(08:45):
whatever is their sponsor, is doing it, I understand that,
but quit trying to lead this flambuoyant life. They showed
a picture of his study in his house, and it's
got legend and all these things about it that he
hasn't earned yet. Maybe he's earned them a little bit
at the college level, but he hasn't earned them at
all at the professional level.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And I think if he comes in there with a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
More a lot more toned down, and a lot more Sorry,
I was such a jerk to all the people that
I met with during the training camp. And just show
during the interview process, and just show what you can do,
and the OTAs and the mini camps and the mandatory camps,
and get that invite and make sure you're there on
time for the summer camp.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Get all of those things together.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think this could turn out to be a good
thing for him because it'll humble him. Certainly doesn't need
the money, it would be nice to have it, and
four years from now he could be getting some kind
of an extension or he could be waived in two
months if he comes in there with a terrible attitude
and somebody else may have to go through that. He
certainly has the talent to be a top twenty five,
(09:52):
top twenty quarterback in the NFL. There are quarterbacks in
the NFL that are not as good as he is.
But he does have to work on arm strength because
that's going to be a problem in this league. But
more than anything else, he has to work on contrition.
This is not something that the NFL is going to
want to put up with a bunch of entitled, spoiled
athletes that the NC DOUBLEA is forced to put up
(10:13):
with because the NC DOUBLEA doesn't have a backbone, they
can't stand up to their anit trust legislation issues, and
they can't find anybody in Washington, DC to fix it.
Hopefully they get it that fixed soon so that they
can be they can have a standard. But college sports
is now being run by athletes. The NFL is not well.
(10:34):
I will say this at least.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
The one thing that I felt bad for with shador Is,
and not just him, but a couple of other players
that it happened to, is obviously the prank phone call
where yes, you know the and now we now find
out that it's the son of one of the.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Dentsive coordator Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, that happened to get us on and just dumb,
absolutely dumb. But did the hey everybody makes mistakes whatever.
I don't know if that was the PR team kind
of getting with him and say, dude, you know clearly
you're getting a message sent to you, so let's be
a little bit more humble. And he's actually already come
out and said, hey, if I could have done things,
(11:11):
I should have done them different.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You know, maybe that's where it starts.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Maybe I should have started going to more of these
interviews and portraying myself the right way. And again, if
that's a PR team, that's just telling him to you know, hey,
just act this way or fake it. I don't know
if he is becoming more humble, good on him.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of dads
out there and I don't know this. I know this
to a third party, but Quinn Yours' dad was very
much like, you're not going to play your senior year
because I don't want you to get hurt. And it
was very much about his financial future, and it was
all about making a brand of a player that didn't
have a brand yet.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And Dion.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I remember going to the Jim Thorpe Ward Bank WT
in Oklahoma City in nineteen eighty seven when Dion won it.
I was at that banquet when he wanted and Ricky
Dixon and I can't remember the third guy were the
ones invited. And Ricky Dixon was the semifinalist from OU
and and and then, and obviously Dion was better.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
He was the better, he was the choice. There was
no question.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Ricky Dixon knew he was not going to be be
number one, but they were all together and I didn't
think too much about it. But Dion Sanders was this
phenomenal too sport athlete. He probably could have played basketball
too if he'd wanted to, or any other sport that
he wanted to get into. And he could back up
anything he said. And Schadour is a good player, but
(12:36):
he's not a great player. And he could be great
if he develops, and he could be you know, there's
a lot of quarterbacks that have won Super Bowls and
taken teams a long way. I think he could be
talent wise as good as Dak Prescott, but he's going
to have to show some humbleness.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Now here's one other thing on this.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
There was something that Shiloh tweeted out and said, we
fired our dad as our agents because we haven't really
had good representation with him.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And it was a joke.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But don't read anything into that, because if you're going
to be an NFL player, you have to have a
certified agent, and Dion is not a certified agent. So
while dad could be the agent in college, he can't
be the agent in the pros unless he goes and
gets certified and gets a degree as being an agent,
WHI should require several years of law school. It's it's
that there is a vetted process to be an agent,
(13:27):
and if you're not an agent, the NFL will not
even take your call. So if Dion called the Browns
and said, I want to negotiate what you're going to
get from my son, click call. You have to have
a certified agent do that?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, no, not necessarily, because there are some NFL players
Lamar Jacks. Well, you can, well if mom became certified,
but you can represent yourself. You can represent yourself, but
then you you don't have any leverage really, because you're
not going to be.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
All the agents talk to each other.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So about five seconds after the deal is over, when
the press release says terms were not disclosed, the terms
are disclosed to every other agent on the planet.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So everybody knows what everybody's making. It's not private.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
The teams will put that out as terms were not disclosed.
But that's why you can go on the NBA trade machine,
or you can see what NFL salary caps look like
online because everybody's sharing that information with each other. You
can represent yourself, but shaudeor knows nothing about doing that,
and either to Shiloh. But if you're going to declare representation,
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you have to become certified. And Lamar Jackson's mom took
two years to become certified so that she could teach
him how to so she could be his agent.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And you can only get three percent.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
They moved it from two to three percent recently, but
that's the max that your agent can take, not twenty
seven or forty like some of these college kids are getting.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
All right, So that's my
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Take on to Shador, we'll talk about the Cowboys draft
coming up in the five o'clock hour NBA playoff discussion
is next on the ticket
It is a Monday afternoon, it is post draft time.
I don't know if anybody else noticed this or not,
but the player that had the least amount of pizazz,
if you will, in the way that they conducted themselves
at the draft was the number one pick.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Cam Ward. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We talked about that on Friday with a Dylan filling
in for you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
By the way, how was Friday seventy nine?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh man, Come on, Andy, Gordland's not going to accept that.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I got to be better before Scotland. I still got
to work out some issues with the driver. It's just
not getting in play right now, or it's not going
where I'm aiming. Sometimes it's in play, but it's not
what I was expecting it to do. Well, we'll get
there before before May twenty fourth, we hope, all right.
Cam Ward was conservatively dressed compared to everybody else, had
(00:53):
a simple gold necklace on, nothing flashy, not the dollar
signs that looked like they cost on one hundred thousand
dollars to buy the chain, and was very humble and
was very excited about being there, and not that some
of the other ones weren't. I thought when Matthew Golden
got picked. That was he goes to Green Bay. He
was loving that and playing up the crowd. Now you
(01:14):
have to have one of your Texas guys in a
cowboy hatred team. But this goes back to the Shador
Sanders thing. If you were as good as your dad was,
and you could lock down an area of the field,
or you could throw a hundred yards, or if you
had the prototype quarterback skill set and you were quote
(01:36):
unquote the can't miss project, you can be a little
bit cocky and you can be a little bit brash.
Right now, in college sports, we have something that is
a phenomenon that's never existed in college sports. Before you recruit,
if a coach walks into your into your kid's house,
the kids first question, more often than not, is how
(01:56):
much am I going to get paid? It's never where
do I stand on the quarterback to depth chart. It's
never what kind of a degree program do you think
I should get into it. It's never what are my
opportunities and what are the traditions at Texas or Oh
You or Alabama or wherever you're being recruited. It's all
about where's my money and how much am I getting it?
(02:18):
And how often does I get paid? And how much
do I get up front? That's all they care about.
And if you're eighteen years old and you've never seen
money in your life and you are you don't know
anything about savings accounts, and you don't know anything about iras,
and you don't know anything about investing, and you know
you don't have anybody in your family that knows anything
(02:38):
about it, You're probably going to go cash the check
and spend it all in twenty minutes, and so you
go buy flashy things with it, and you show up
on campus like, well, I got more than everybody else does.
It's the the glitter has has some It may not
be gold, but to somebody it looks like it is.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And you're always.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
When you're when you're when you're that entitled, and your
thought is, no matter what the situation is, I'm gonna
get paid and I'm the best player here and it's
just going to transition into the next level when I
go pro. And to think a few months ago, Dion
was saying there's there's certain teams that we don't want
to draft Shaedoor, and by Friday night they're like, please, God,
(03:24):
could anybody draft him?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So this embarrassment could end.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I can't prove that the NFL owners colluded together, because
Cleveland probably would have taken him with the second pick
in the draft if he'd have been really, really good and.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Humble or just humble. But I can't say that.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, the Browns are going to pick first in the
fifth round. We're going to make an example out of
out of Shador by drafting him in the fifth round.
So I said in the first segment, it's an easy
wave if he doesn't turn out to be very good,
and it's a cheap quarter back for four years if
he turns out to be your best player. Football players
(04:05):
and athletes in college have become so ridiculously entitled that
they think that is going to follow them for the
rest of their life. And I think he is the
poster child for if you're not gonna be humble, and
you're not going to come in here thinking that you
don't know it all and and I'll just use the
Frank Harris mentality, for lack of a better word, come
(04:25):
in here and say, I'm just here, I'm happy to
be here. I hope I get an opportunity to play
when we win. It's the other guys that didn't get
all the credit. When we lose, I take all the blame.
Shaud Door has never been that guy. Dion has never
taught him to be that guy. In a lot of ways,
Dion has taught Shouldur to be like Tiger Woods's dad
(04:48):
did with Tiger. Don't speak to anybody, Just be stoic.
The only thing is is Tiger just happened to be
the best there was. Should Door is not quite the
best that there ever was. There's a lot said about
the fact that he has a high completion percentage, but
he has a weak arm, so that percentage is good
in college because he can pick and choose where he
throws it, and there's always going to be a weak
(05:10):
link in somebody else's secondary that you can exploit. In
the NFL, there are no weak links. They're all strong links,
so some are just not as strong as others. If
you don't have arm strength, you cannot throw an out
pattern because if that ball gets there a half a
second late, it's a pig six. In college, you can
get there half a second late, especially if you're throwing
to their weaker defender, because that guy can't get it.
(05:31):
Even if you were two seconds late, and there was
discussion on Saturday. I was driving to the golf course
and listening to the guys of the NFL network, and
they were saying, why not challenge the college rule and
go back to college. Just have your agent call all
the teams and say don't draft me. And then now,
right now, legally he's not allowed to go back and
(05:52):
get that fifth year of eligibility that he still has
or sixth or whatever it is, because once you enter
the put your name up for draft, you can't pull
your name out. Well why not, Well it's an NCAA violation. Well, NBA,
every time you squint in their direction, they cave on
every legal issue that there is. So he could have
(06:12):
made more money by going back to Colorado for a year.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think Colorado already signed a player and that player
would have probably left ten seconds after the decision was
made if he was coming back. He's not going to
do that, but there was discussion about that on Saturday.
He's not in a terrible spot with the Browns. Deshaun
Watson is going to eventually be waived. I would bet
Deshaun Watson never plays another down for the Browns. He's
going to set out this year on his medical exemption
(06:37):
with the Achilles, and then next year they're going to
wave him and they're going to eat the money. I
don't think Dylan Gabriel is great. I think he's going
to eventually get waived and be on somebody else's team.
Canny Pickett suck forever in Pittsburgh. I can't see him
being better on a team that's not as good as Pittsburgh.
And Joe Flacco should be there to teach Shedeor Sanders
(06:58):
and the first day in that that quarterback meeting room,
Chaudeur should not have his hat on backwards or sideways.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He should walk over.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
To the to the UH, to the to Flaco and
go teach me everything you know. I'm here to learn
and be serious about it. The way that you carry
yourself and the way that you act is is as
important going forward for Shad Dour Sanders as it is
whatever skill set that he has, and I think that
(07:27):
I think he could be a He could beat the
number two quarterback before the season begins, and he could
get some snaps by week six or seven, and he
could be the starter by the end of the year.
Very much like Michael Pennix was if he is humble
and if he is going to actually truly be a
leader of a football team. What we saw at Colorado
(07:48):
was he was doing whatever his dad told him to do.
And this is one of the reasons why I've said
for a while that I think Chador will be better
off when he's not under the wing of his dad.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's time for him to grow up.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's time for him to be his own guy and
do whatever it is that he wants to do. And
if he listens to Flacco and does so intently and seriously,
and you know, quit if you're going to go on
a road trip, leave your one hundred thousand dollars Rolex
at home. Your iPhone will tell just as good a
time and no one's going to see you on the
road trip anyway. You want to wear it because a
(08:21):
sponsor says that you need to wear it during interviews.
You look at all these golf interviews and you see
the players. The first thing they do is put on
the watch after the round. Well they don't, they're not
required to wear the watch during the round, but if
they want to get paid for endorsing that watch, then
they put it on for the interviews and pre and
post stuff, and so you know, if that's why you're
bringing it along, so that because Rolex or Boulevard or
(08:45):
whatever is their sponsor, is doing it, I understand that,
but quit trying to lead this flambuoyant life. They showed
a picture of his study in his house, and it's
got legend and all these things about it that he
hasn't earned yet. Maybe he's earned them a little bit
at the college level, but he hasn't earned them at
all at the professional level.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And I think if he comes in there with a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
More a lot more toned down, and a lot more Sorry,
I was such a jerk to all the people that
I met with during the training camp. And just show
during the interview process, and just show what you can do,
and the OTAs and the mini camps and the mandatory camps,
and get that invite and make sure you're there on
time for the summer camp.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Get all of those things together.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think this could turn out to be a good
thing for him because it'll humble him. Certainly doesn't need
the money, it would be nice to have it, and
four years from now he could be getting some kind
of an extension or he could be waived in two
months if he comes in there with a terrible attitude
and somebody else may have to go through that. He
certainly has the talent to be a top twenty five,
(09:52):
top twenty quarterback in the NFL. There are quarterbacks in
the NFL that are not as good as he is.
But he does have to work on arm strength because
that's going to be a problem in this league. But
more than anything else, he has to work on contrition.
This is not something that the NFL is going to
want to put up with a bunch of entitled, spoiled
athletes that the NC DOUBLEA is forced to put up
(10:13):
with because the NC DOUBLEA doesn't have a backbone, they
can't stand up to their anit trust legislation issues, and
they can't find anybody in Washington, DC to fix it.
Hopefully they get it that fixed soon so that they
can be they can have a standard. But college sports
is now being run by athletes. The NFL is not well.
(10:34):
I will say this at least.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
The one thing that I felt bad for with shador Is,
and not just him, but a couple of other players
that it happened to, is obviously the prank phone call
where yes, you know the and now we now find
out that it's the son of one of the.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Dentsive coordator Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, that happened to get us on and just dumb,
absolutely dumb. But did the hey everybody makes mistakes whatever.
I don't know if that was the PR team kind
of getting with him and say, dude, you know clearly
you're getting a message sent to you, so let's be
a little bit more humble. And he's actually already come
out and said, hey, if I could have done things,
(11:11):
I should have done them different.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You know, maybe that's where it starts.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Maybe I should have started going to more of these
interviews and portraying myself the right way. And again, if
that's a PR team, that's just telling him to you know, hey,
just act this way or fake it. I don't know
if he is becoming more humble, good on him.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of dads
out there and I don't know this. I know this
to a third party, but Quinn Yours' dad was very
much like, you're not going to play your senior year
because I don't want you to get hurt. And it
was very much about his financial future, and it was
all about making a brand of a player that didn't
have a brand yet.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And Dion.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I remember going to the Jim Thorpe Ward Bank WT
in Oklahoma City in nineteen eighty seven when Dion won it.
I was at that banquet when he wanted and Ricky
Dixon and I can't remember the third guy were the
ones invited. And Ricky Dixon was the semifinalist from OU
and and and then, and obviously Dion was better.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
He was the better, he was the choice. There was
no question.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Ricky Dixon knew he was not going to be be
number one, but they were all together and I didn't
think too much about it. But Dion Sanders was this
phenomenal too sport athlete. He probably could have played basketball
too if he'd wanted to, or any other sport that
he wanted to get into. And he could back up
anything he said. And Schadour is a good player, but
(12:36):
he's not a great player. And he could be great
if he develops, and he could be you know, there's
a lot of quarterbacks that have won Super Bowls and
taken teams a long way. I think he could be
talent wise as good as Dak Prescott, but he's going
to have to show some humbleness.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Now here's one other thing on this.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
There was something that Shiloh tweeted out and said, we
fired our dad as our agents because we haven't really
had good representation with him.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And it was a joke.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But don't read anything into that, because if you're going
to be an NFL player, you have to have a
certified agent, and Dion is not a certified agent. So
while dad could be the agent in college, he can't
be the agent in the pros unless he goes and
gets certified and gets a degree as being an agent,
WHI should require several years of law school. It's it's
that there is a vetted process to be an agent,
(13:27):
and if you're not an agent, the NFL will not
even take your call. So if Dion called the Browns
and said, I want to negotiate what you're going to
get from my son, click call. You have to have
a certified agent do that?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, no, not necessarily, because there are some NFL players
Lamar Jacks. Well, you can, well if mom became certified,
but you can represent yourself. You can represent yourself, but
then you you don't have any leverage really, because you're
not going to be.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
All the agents talk to each other.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So about five seconds after the deal is over, when
the press release says terms were not disclosed, the terms
are disclosed to every other agent on the planet.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So everybody knows what everybody's making. It's not private.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
The teams will put that out as terms were not disclosed.
But that's why you can go on the NBA trade machine,
or you can see what NFL salary caps look like
online because everybody's sharing that information with each other. You
can represent yourself, but shaudeor knows nothing about doing that,
and either to Shiloh. But if you're going to declare representation,
(14:26):
you have to become certified. And Lamar Jackson's mom took
two years to become certified so that she could teach
him how to so she could be his agent.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And you can only get three percent.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
They moved it from two to three percent recently, but
that's the max that your agent can take, not twenty
seven or forty like some of these college kids are getting.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
All right, So that's my
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Take on to Shador, we'll talk about the Cowboys draft
coming up in the five o'clock hour NBA playoff discussion
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