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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Next story we got to get to is the Houston Texans,
and they went to California and beat the Chargers, and
they did it again with defense, holding the Mighty Chargers
down to ten points. Jim Harbaugh says Herbert's not gonna
play in the closing game against Denver, so that may
make a difference on I mean, I was gonna pick
Denver anyway, but right now, I don't think the Chargers
feel like they can move up, although they could with
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a win and a Houston loss to the Colts.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, I mean they go from five to six.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, so they're gonna play there either way.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's gonna be an outdoor stam either way, they're gonna
pay on the road exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And so number one right now is Denver. Number two
is New England. The three seed is likely gonna be Jacksonville,
and the fourth seed is gonna be the North champion.
The Ravens and the Steelers one in, one out.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So actually, if you're the Chargers, it benefits you a
little bit to stay at the sixth seed.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Actually, actually the Rape the Raves, the Raven Steeler win in.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Or it's a winning in.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Game.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The Ravens, and also that the Niners Seahawks is also
is a win for the the NFCA.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
But both teams already clinched the spot of clinch.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
But there's a couple that are like the facto like
championship games kind of like Carolina Tampa and so, yeah,
the raven Steelers win is in losers out.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And say so with Carolina and and Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, so like the Chargers might actually benefit from staying
the six seed because at the way it is now,
they would go on the road to Jacksonville, which if
you if you're a weather climate one weather climate as
opposed to you here, the textans you have to go
on the road to either Pittsburgh or Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And the old Houston teams, the Oilers of the eighties
never played well in Pittsburgh, never played well in cold weather,
and they a lot. They often played the AFC Championship
game in Pittsburgh and that was disastrous.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, that's not really fair for a Dome team.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I don't think that, And maybe I was wrong watching
the game yesterday, I was I was impressed with the
offense enough to say they could win, that they could
they could win a playoff. But I also feel like
this offense is kind of limited in a lot of
stuff that it does. Like for for example, I've been impressed,
and I told you before that the way they've revamped
the offensive line is noticeably better, not great, but better
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than it was last year.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Last year they led the league in sacks allowed.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
This year, I think they're like nineteenth or eighteen, so better,
but still very much average in that way. Ce Stroud
still has the issue of that if you put pressure
on him, he can make those mistakes.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
But what you see is if you give him.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Clean enough pocket, give him at least two three seconds
to throw, he makes about as good throw as anybody
does ten yards plus down the field. Like I think
they had like a metric up that he's one of
the best in the NFL. Had thrown the ball at deep,
which in the NFL any deep passes fifteen yards or
more down the field, and he just drives one of
the best at that.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The issue for them has been in terms of, like
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
The whenever a team applies pressure way too early and
it makes him have to move on his mark.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
That's affected the offense a lot well.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
To me, The thing that's missing from the Texans this
year as supposed to not necessarily last year, but two
years ago when they kind of burst on the scene
is Joe Mixon and I understand it's running back by
committee and Mars and Jones? Is it Jones? Georg Jordan, Jordan, Yeah,
George Jordan and Chubby.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'm sorry, I mean he Mixing is over the hill.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, I know mix is over the hill. I think
Mixing's career is over. I really but but Mixing from
two years ago was not Mixing from two years ago
was great. And I'm I'm not a big fan of
having two or three running backs and saying, Okay, we're
just going to get it done by committee, because none
of the three ever scare a defense, like, oh my god,
if he gets the ball, he's going to be gone
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for sixty If Mixing when he was in his prime
was that kind of a back, and Derrick Henry is
that kind of a back, and the you know, I
think the Bears have that with Swift. I want one
back that's going to carry it eighty percent of the runs,
and I want him to a dynamic enough player that
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it scares the hell out of the other team, and
then I'll bring in the backup which could beat Chubb
if he wants to come back, or Jordan or Marx
and say, okay, when you're in the game, we don't
really drop off that much, but we don't have the
home run threat. They still have to honor you. Maybe
we rush for one hundred and forty. My main guy
gets ninety. Everybody else gets fifty. And to me, that's
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what's missing from the Texans. Even as bad as the
as the Bills have been recently, and a lot of
that has to do with no weapons on the outside,
they still have a good running game and they still
have Josh Allen. And if you look at look at
all the teams that you know, Sakwan Barkley's not having
as good a year as he had last year, and
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maybe some defenses of keat on him and they're gonna
make you know, Jalen hurts beat you. But you still
have to honor Barkley. You can't not pay attention to him.
And to me, when the Texans go to the draft board,
they need to find that guy. The same situation the
Cowboys are in. Yep, Williams is okay, but I need
somebody that's really, really better. I need Williams to be
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the number two guy, not the number one guy. I
need somebody that's really good, not three guys that are
going to collectively be one. And that, to me, that's
the only thing that the Texans are missing that probably
needs some help on the offensive line. If they can
keep the defense and pay everybody and bring back this
exact defense next year and add at an offensive lineman
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and a running back and just a little bit, you know,
Nico Collins is obviously the number one receiver, Christian Kirk
is two, Schultz as good as three. Maybe get me
a fourth receiver, But I want to focus on offensive
line and I want to focus on running back. The
only thing that that to me makes the Texans a
Super Bowl condemned and.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Even banging that drum for weeks and if not years.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And the reality is this Andy, And I hate to
tell you this, but I think you're wrong in this regard.
I think that while it is nice to have a
workhorse running back, if you have it, they are much
rare to get nowadays than you realize. It is much easier, cheaper,
and healthier to have two to three guys in your
backfield that you can do multiple things.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
How many super bowts? How many of those win Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The Patriots did it, The Chiefs did it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The Chiefs had Patrick Mahomes and they.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Have they used multiple running backs, but these multiple.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Jay Stroud is neither one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I agree with that, but that's that's also not fair
to like put to put like a quarterback to comparison
to Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, those are two of
a kind.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Buffalo has a top running back.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Baltimore a championship game, but Baltimore iss may passed the
divisional round.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, Baltimore still still has a top We look at
the teams that are vying for the playoffs, right the
one team that doesn't is Pittsburgh and I we'll kind
of talk about Pittsburgh later, but they need a running
back to what they they should have never although Najee
Harriscott hurt, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And you look at the reality is that there's not
enough of those running backs anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But it's okay to move past that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But I think the teams that actually win Super Bowls
and get the NFC AFC championship games have good, great running.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Eagles were the only team in the last like ten
years to have a true workhorse, elite running back to
win the Champampionshift.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The rest of them have been like the.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Rest of them have been Kansas City with Kelsey and Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And and Tampa and Philly the one year bet.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'll take who's the main guy in Tampa that got hurt,
Bucky Irvy. I'll take a Mucky Irvy.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yes, well, he's the same level as Jabonte Williams. But
you don't want Jabonze either. Is an eleven hundred yard
rusher better than Javonte. Is the running back that you
could pay only four million dollars a year but produced
like a fifteen million dollar year running back.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You can't. You can't have those.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Take Swift with the Bears. Okay, the Lions have two
elite backs with mccamery one.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Elite back in one good back and David David Montgomery.
David Montgomery is constantly hurt. He's a downhill runner. He
is not a complete guy.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
David Montgomery can scare a defense.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
In the box, sure, but like you can do more
Gibbs And they use a committee and as much as
the committee aproach too.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And as much as I have never been a Rico
Dawdell fan, he emerged as a pretty good back this year.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Him and Shubb.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
That's another committee approach though I think I think I
would say that Doubtll is definitely the better the two backs,
but they definitely they used to made himself. They use
the approach. They use the multiple back approach as well,
So I use multiple guys.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But I don't think the Texans are ever going to
go to a super Bowl with those three backs. They're
not good enough.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, no, they wouldn't because it's not it's not even
just their faul. It's the reality is that their hurt.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Now, maybe their defense will carry them like they have
the last I mean, how many one possession games have
the Texans been in recently? Now they beat out they
blew out the Raiders forty to twenty, But they have
so many of these down to the to the second,
last second decision one way or the other on these
on it was it nine game winning streak they're on now, Oh, great.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Street probably be nine.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
They're probably going to be nine against the Colts, and
I think they'll win a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And they almost beat the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Remember that one came down to a missfield goal, So
that would have been what ten?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I guess because they yeah, because they that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Defense is keeping him in in games. But look at
the'll look at all these box scars. I have this
conversation with Mark every Tuesday. Oh you didn't have very good,
a very good day running the football? You lost? Oh
yeah to average to good day running the football? You want?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, But Vandermer would never like insult any of the
sexist players, even if he knew that marks.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
What wouldn't hit in them?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, they rushed for thirty yards as a team, which
occasionally they have. Those are the games they're lost. I
just think if they can get one, I'm not saying
they're gonna get one. But it doesn't have to be
a first round pick, right. It just has to be
somebody that scares the defense that I've got to pay
attention to them. And there's thirty starting running backs in
the league, and there's thirty backups. And I'll take a
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I'll take a good and a good, and i'll take
a great and an average. But I don't need three
guys that to get collectively. No one's ever heard of
until this year.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I don't mind that there's a bunch of no names,
to be honest, but I think really with the Texans
need more than than your optics at the running back position. Honestly,
I think one, they need to continue to improve at
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's been better they do off and I need well,
they need to get healthy on the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That would definitely help.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And I can appreciate that their young receivers have stepped up,
but they're very much still raw, like Jay.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But when healthy they have Schultz and Kirk and and
and Ryan and and.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I think passed, but he's a good deep threat.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, Collins, I think they're I think their receiving corps
is okay. But if you're gonna play the defense that
they play, the best way to grind out wins is
to be able to run the ball more. And they
continue to do it, and they're doing it by committee,
but I think that's going to catch up to them
as they get deeper in the playoffs. All Right, we'll
put a rap on the uts A football season. More
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players in the portal, more players from American Conference in
the portal. We'll get into that discussion. And a basketball
player who's already played in the NBA, is coming back
to college for apparently as many as three more years.
I don't think I can't figure that out, and we
should pass a roll soon