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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Kansas City Chiefs went in and slayed the dragon.
It is something that has been very hard to do
win in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The Texans. Yes, what I say? You said, the Chiefs went.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Into The Texans went into Kansas City and slayed the dragon.
It took care of the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Just a tremendous defensive game. The Texans, I think may
have the best defense in the league. But in both
conferences they did enough. And listen, the Chiefs are in
decline and they're old. Well they they're old, but they're
not far off from not being old. Because Mahomes isn't
going anywhere. It's okay to have an old quarterback if
(00:42):
you surround him with younger, better player.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Travis Kelsey's thirty six, Chris Jones thirty three. It's time.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't know about Chris Jones. I think Chris Jones
gonna give you another year or two.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think if he wanted to keep playing, he's toupised
to nose tackle. He didn't have the same burst he
used to have.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well they can.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
They'll figure out a way to find him to be
He's where he's effective and he.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Has a bunch of This is no disrespect.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He has a bunch of two and three option receivers
who are a lot of times being his number one option.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Rashie Rice is a number two and up yesterday, Smith
Schuster is a three, and they don't have a number one,
and to me, in the draft, they have to address
a replacement for for Travis Kelcey. They can probably get
away with Noah Gray being the leader of the tight
end room, but they need to go out and find
a brock.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Bowers type tight end in the in the early rounds,
a rock Bowers type tight end. They've had back to
back brock Bowers type.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
They went from Tony Travis like a gap year and
then Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's that's that's a nice little They need to get
another one of those guys. Yeah, so like they need
another one.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Actually there's a there's rumblings that they could be going
after Isaiah likely the number two tight end from Baltimore,
because much as good as Mark Andrews is, people like
Isaiah like.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, you can't faster, you can't play two tight ends
as much when you've just paid Andrews that extension that
you have.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So there he's going to command as much.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But I'm not gonna if I have a choice in
a held is likely is this is uh twenty five
of them? Okay, that he would be a good choice,
and and that because Patrick in that offense needs a
safety valve. He needs somebody no matter what happens. I
know where you are on the field, and I know
you're open. But in the draft, if they can get
an elite wide receiver with the first pick, and I
think they're going to draft in the top fifteen picks
(02:14):
in the draft, I don't think they're going to make
the playoffs. So that's going to eliminate fourteen teams. And
my guess is is they're going to probably be around
out of twelve or thirteen spot when they draft. Yeah,
and they can find a wide receiver that can make
a difference and start him right away next year.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Would you give him the option.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm gonna let you pick because we've seen this kind
of work for and against you in the past. Just
focus on Kannessey because I know we are the teams
to talk about. So if you have, let's say, enough
money to pay for one wide receiver and at a
draft pick high enough to get one really good tight end.
Are you spending the money on the receiver or in
drafting tight end or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I would have to evaluate to do if I can
get another Tony Gonzalees or Travis Kelce, I'm taking tight end.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But there's there's far better wide.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
There's far more better wide receivers than there are elite
tight ends.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, because in this year's draft, and this is very
early right now, the number one near consensus tight end
is Eli Stowers. He's the tight end for Vanderbilt. He's
been a diego poppy, is number one guy. He's the
guy everyone thinks he's gonna go first a tight end.
The receiver that's supposed to go first is Jeremiah Smith.
He's not gonna make it to Kansas City, assuming fifteen,
he's gonna be top five pit probably. So my thought
is this is that if you signed a tight end,
(03:21):
the tight end market right now is between eleven to
fifteen million dollars a year for a top ten to
fifteen tight end, to give or take.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
If you use that money.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
On a receiver, that's fine, but you're pretty much saying
I have to use a for a first or second
on a tight end. But God forbid, if Eli Stowers
is gone by, then are you ending up going to
reach for.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That kind of guy?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I don't know what can seems to do but tight
end wide receiver in a second running back to at
least share the load with but check ope, not not
high but third round. Sure, somebody that's better than Kareem
Hunt because he's over the hill.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
He's old tim, yeah he is. But the Texans man
that defense from all.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
The Texans defense is winning games for the Texans. Andy
Stroud just has to do enough not to mess it up.
And when you have that kind of safety of you know,
all I got to do is not make mistakes and
we're going to win because our defense is so good.
We'll be talking to Mark Vandamir about this tomorrow. That
is a really, really good team. They have won five
(04:15):
games in a row and I think they could win out.
They've got the Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, and Colts and the
only game left on the road is the Chargers. They
have the Cardinals, Raiders, and Colts at home, and the
Colts obviously got them. The Colts are done.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Danejel's report earlier torn Achilles out for the season. So
like them and the Jags, the Text and the Jacks
are going to compete for that final spot.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
They're both probably gonna make.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, how does Baltimore, I mean Indianapolis go from what
were they eight to o to not even making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think they were seven and one before this because
of the out of Diamond Mitchell Fumbloying when that was the
first loss. I mean they went after that and then
they went one, one and three. Yeah, they may.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They're in a position where they're not going to make
the playoffs because now Jacksonville and Houston are back in
the mix to win the division and the Houston's only
a game back now. Unfortunately they don't play Jacksonville and
they need Jacksonville to lose. But I think you got
the Cardinals next week, you got the Raiders after that.
You're likely going to have to win in LA to
be able to catch Jacksonville and beat the Chargers, and
(05:10):
then you're gonna have a beat up Colts team coming
to the to Houston the last game of the year.
I think they could go four and oh and they're
set with a seven and five and one right now, No,
eight and five, eight and eighty five, so that's twelve
and that's twelve and five.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think that would catch Jacksonville and win the division.
Take eleven and six. Ye done. Two. I haven't seen
Jacksonville schedule, so don't quote me on that.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But the thing with Jacksonville is that them, similar to
the Chargers, is they are so inconsistent all year long.
The Jags have been elites or at least nearly on defense.
The offense at times has always shown up. For now,
yesterday the Jags obviously showed up, especially you know with
the with with the loss of Danie Jones and the
Colts and all that. But when it comes down to
the Texans and the Jags, the Texans right now are
the hotter team, which you always had to watch out
(05:52):
for coming playoff time.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And by the way, we two things.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, how much of a Pat Mahomes fan I
am as a Texas Tech grad. That interception to come
sorry Lassiter was absolute garbage. I don't know who he
was looking for. There must have been a music communication.
But you also see on the Texans how much different
that offense is.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
When CJ.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Stroud has Nico Collins that receiver, it's just it has
a different element to the passing game, and it opens
up so much more possibilities for the weapons.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
See, Jags don't have a very difficult schedule either, what
is it? They get the Jets next, Okay, then they
have to go to Denver and that's where they could lose. Okay,
and then they play Indianapolis and Tennessee to finish the season. Okay,
so I'm counting them.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Is three and one, So the Texans would have to
get who has the tiebreaker?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Who they've already played twice? Right they have? I can't
I know Jacksonville won one? Did they win both? I
don't remember. Let's look here, I'm taking the schedule. This
is live raardy with people. I'm sorry, we're producing on
the fly. Okay. So they're one on one on each other.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So it would come down to come down to division
record exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So they So if if if the Jags were to
lose just to the Broncos, then you said the text,
the Texans don't have any NFC games left.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Do they? No?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
They they play in Division and and and well and
they play the Raiders and Chargers.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Okay, So like that Colts game, they need to win
that one obviously because for a tiebreaker, like also divisional
and conferences are going to factor.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Into that division. Right now, Jacksonville is three and one,
Houston's four and one. Okay, so then the next if
you if both if both win all of their conference games,
that's going to be even.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean they're they're division games.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
The conference record is Jacksonville is six and two, Houston
seven and two. Basically, if if Houston wins out, I
think they're gonna get the.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
TI tigh record. Yeah, then then then the Texans wins.
So the only way that Jacks can win the South
is they have to have a better overall record.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think so because well because right now, because if
Jacksonville were to lose to Denver and UH and and
Houston were to win out, they.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Would be tied. Then that would they get the Texans
the division.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And the Texans would have the better UH division, the
better conference records.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So it sounds like to me, assuming you take care
of business against the teams, to put a phrase you
like to use, the teams, you should be yes. And
when then when the Jags play the Broncos, you hope
the Broncos can hold up at home, which you know,
Hissery says they will. And then the Texans obviously they
played the charters. The Chargers are not an easy team to.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Beat Denver in New England. Now are vying for the
number one seed. Yeah, but if the Texans, you know
right now, you're not going to get the number one seater, No,
you're the way you're not. But you could get three
at the worst.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Though, both these teams are in the playoffs because because
the wild car is going to shrink.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Wild Card is going to definitely shrink, all right, U
ts as in the first Responderball. We'll talk about that
coming up on the ticket
The Kansas City Chiefs went in and slayed the dragon.
It is something that has been very hard to do
win in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The Texans. Yes, what I say? You said, the Chiefs went.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Into The Texans went into Kansas City and slayed the dragon.
It took care of the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Just a tremendous defensive game. The Texans, I think may
have the best defense in the league. But in both
conferences they did enough. And listen, the Chiefs are in
decline and they're old. Well they they're old, but they're
not far off from not being old. Because Mahomes isn't
going anywhere. It's okay to have an old quarterback if
(00:42):
you surround him with younger, better player.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Travis Kelsey's thirty six, Chris Jones thirty three. It's time.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I don't know about Chris Jones. I think Chris Jones
gonna give you another year or two.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think if he wanted to keep playing, he's toupised
to nose tackle. He didn't have the same burst he
used to have.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well they can.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
They'll figure out a way to find him to be
He's where he's effective and he.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Has a bunch of This is no disrespect.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He has a bunch of two and three option receivers
who are a lot of times being his number one option.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Rashie Rice is a number two and up yesterday, Smith
Schuster is a three, and they don't have a number one,
and to me, in the draft, they have to address
a replacement for for Travis Kelcey. They can probably get
away with Noah Gray being the leader of the tight
end room, but they need to go out and find
a brock.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Bowers type tight end in the in the early rounds,
a rock Bowers type tight end. They've had back to
back brock Bowers type.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
They went from Tony Travis like a gap year and
then Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's that's that's a nice little They need to get
another one of those guys. Yeah, so like they need
another one.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Actually there's a there's rumblings that they could be going
after Isaiah likely the number two tight end from Baltimore,
because much as good as Mark Andrews is, people like
Isaiah like.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, you can't faster, you can't play two tight ends
as much when you've just paid Andrews that extension that
you have.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So there he's going to command as much.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But I'm not gonna if I have a choice in
a held is likely is this is uh twenty five
of them? Okay, that he would be a good choice,
and and that because Patrick in that offense needs a
safety valve. He needs somebody no matter what happens. I
know where you are on the field, and I know
you're open. But in the draft, if they can get
an elite wide receiver with the first pick, and I
think they're going to draft in the top fifteen picks
(02:14):
in the draft, I don't think they're going to make
the playoffs. So that's going to eliminate fourteen teams. And
my guess is is they're going to probably be around
out of twelve or thirteen spot when they draft. Yeah,
and they can find a wide receiver that can make
a difference and start him right away next year.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Would you give him the option.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm gonna let you pick because we've seen this kind
of work for and against you in the past. Just
focus on Kannessey because I know we are the teams
to talk about. So if you have, let's say, enough
money to pay for one wide receiver and at a
draft pick high enough to get one really good tight end.
Are you spending the money on the receiver or in
drafting tight end or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I would have to evaluate to do if I can
get another Tony Gonzalees or Travis Kelce, I'm taking tight end.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But there's there's far better wide.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
There's far more better wide receivers than there are elite
tight ends.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, because in this year's draft, and this is very
early right now, the number one near consensus tight end
is Eli Stowers. He's the tight end for Vanderbilt. He's
been a diego poppy, is number one guy. He's the
guy everyone thinks he's gonna go first a tight end.
The receiver that's supposed to go first is Jeremiah Smith.
He's not gonna make it to Kansas City, assuming fifteen,
he's gonna be top five pit probably. So my thought
is this is that if you signed a tight end,
(03:21):
the tight end market right now is between eleven to
fifteen million dollars a year for a top ten to
fifteen tight end, to give or take.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
If you use that money.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
On a receiver, that's fine, but you're pretty much saying
I have to use a for a first or second
on a tight end. But God forbid, if Eli Stowers
is gone by, then are you ending up going to
reach for.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That kind of guy?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I don't know what can seems to do but tight
end wide receiver in a second running back to at
least share the load with but check ope, not not
high but third round. Sure, somebody that's better than Kareem
Hunt because he's over the hill.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
He's old tim, yeah he is. But the Texans man
that defense from all.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
The Texans defense is winning games for the Texans. Andy
Stroud just has to do enough not to mess it up.
And when you have that kind of safety of you know,
all I got to do is not make mistakes and
we're going to win because our defense is so good.
We'll be talking to Mark Vandamir about this tomorrow. That
is a really, really good team. They have won five
(04:15):
games in a row and I think they could win out.
They've got the Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, and Colts and the
only game left on the road is the Chargers. They
have the Cardinals, Raiders, and Colts at home, and the
Colts obviously got them. The Colts are done.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Danejel's report earlier torn Achilles out for the season. So
like them and the Jags, the Text and the Jacks
are going to compete for that final spot.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
They're both probably gonna make.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well, how does Baltimore, I mean Indianapolis go from what
were they eight to o to not even making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think they were seven and one before this because
of the out of Diamond Mitchell Fumbloying when that was the
first loss. I mean they went after that and then
they went one, one and three. Yeah, they may.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They're in a position where they're not going to make
the playoffs because now Jacksonville and Houston are back in
the mix to win the division and the Houston's only
a game back now. Unfortunately they don't play Jacksonville and
they need Jacksonville to lose. But I think you got
the Cardinals next week, you got the Raiders after that.
You're likely going to have to win in LA to
be able to catch Jacksonville and beat the Chargers, and
(05:10):
then you're gonna have a beat up Colts team coming
to the to Houston the last game of the year.
I think they could go four and oh and they're
set with a seven and five and one right now, No,
eight and five, eight and eighty five, so that's twelve
and that's twelve and five.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think that would catch Jacksonville and win the division.
Take eleven and six. Ye done. Two. I haven't seen
Jacksonville schedule, so don't quote me on that.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But the thing with Jacksonville is that them, similar to
the Chargers, is they are so inconsistent all year long.
The Jags have been elites or at least nearly on defense.
The offense at times has always shown up. For now,
yesterday the Jags obviously showed up, especially you know with
the with with the loss of Danie Jones and the
Colts and all that. But when it comes down to
the Texans and the Jags, the Texans right now are
the hotter team, which you always had to watch out
(05:52):
for coming playoff time.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And by the way, we two things.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, how much of a Pat Mahomes fan I
am as a Texas Tech grad. That interception to come
sorry Lassiter was absolute garbage. I don't know who he
was looking for. There must have been a music communication.
But you also see on the Texans how much different
that offense is.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
When CJ.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Stroud has Nico Collins that receiver, it's just it has
a different element to the passing game, and it opens
up so much more possibilities for the weapons.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
See, Jags don't have a very difficult schedule either, what
is it? They get the Jets next, Okay, then they
have to go to Denver and that's where they could lose. Okay,
and then they play Indianapolis and Tennessee to finish the season. Okay,
so I'm counting them.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Is three and one, So the Texans would have to
get who has the tiebreaker?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Who they've already played twice? Right they have? I can't
I know Jacksonville won one? Did they win both? I
don't remember. Let's look here, I'm taking the schedule. This
is live raardy with people. I'm sorry, we're producing on
the fly. Okay. So they're one on one on each other.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So it would come down to come down to division
record exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So they So if if if the Jags were to
lose just to the Broncos, then you said the text,
the Texans don't have any NFC games left.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Do they? No?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
They they play in Division and and and well and
they play the Raiders and Chargers.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Okay, So like that Colts game, they need to win
that one obviously because for a tiebreaker, like also divisional
and conferences are going to factor.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Into that division. Right now, Jacksonville is three and one,
Houston's four and one. Okay, so then the next if
you if both if both win all of their conference games,
that's going to be even.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean they're they're division games.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
The conference record is Jacksonville is six and two, Houston
seven and two. Basically, if if Houston wins out, I
think they're gonna get the.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
TI tigh record. Yeah, then then then the Texans wins.
So the only way that Jacks can win the South
is they have to have a better overall record.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think so because well because right now, because if
Jacksonville were to lose to Denver and UH and and
Houston were to win out, they.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Would be tied. Then that would they get the Texans
the division.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And the Texans would have the better UH division, the
better conference records.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So it sounds like to me, assuming you take care
of business against the teams, to put a phrase you
like to use, the teams, you should be yes. And
when then when the Jags play the Broncos, you hope
the Broncos can hold up at home, which you know,
Hissery says they will. And then the Texans obviously they
played the charters. The Chargers are not an easy team to.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Beat Denver in New England. Now are vying for the
number one seed. Yeah, but if the Texans, you know
right now, you're not going to get the number one seater, No,
you're the way you're not. But you could get three
at the worst.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Though, both these teams are in the playoffs because because
the wild car is going to shrink.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Wild Card is going to definitely shrink, all right, U
ts as in the first Responderball. We'll talk about that
coming up on the ticket
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