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June 16, 2025 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Our number two of the program today. Thank you for
being with us wherever it is that you may be
listening today.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
We appreciate all of that. I secretly hate you, by
the way.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well, because we're sitting here during the break, we're actually
I'm like breaking down and talking golf with Andy Man.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, your questions are elementary, but I'm very happy to
make sure that I educate you to where.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
You need to be.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm all about being edumacated when it comes to something
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Very important that you are so that you know exactly
what you're talking about when.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
You need to be Wow, I don't know about no.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well, at least have some semblance of knowledge about what's
going on in the golf world, I will.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Say, Andy, I will say I actually do enjoy sitting
here chatting with you when it comes to golf stuff
and learning and dumb questions, but actually sitting here and
watching it too with you. Like when we're just sitting
here prepping for the show or just relaxing, we have
golf channel on and we'll just sit here and watch it,
and I will you know, I get into it, man, Well,
it's the it's a golf.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's the hardest game. It's the most rewarding games at times,
and it's expensive. It's expensive, it takes time, and it's hard,
and yeah, there's a lot of but there's a lot
of things that.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm six almost sixty two years old in about six months,
seven months, and I can still play at a decent level.
I can't play basketball, I can't run and jump. I'm
not playing pickleball because I'm I know, an achilles tendon
tears right around the corner. I'm not playing baseball. I
might throw a football from here to the wall, but

(01:39):
I'm not going to throw it far because that could
tear the rotator cup. But I can play golf at
a relatively good level occasionally and hopefully for another fifteen
or twenty years before the body gives out or father
time takes over one.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Of the two. There you go, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
There was a guys we're talking this weekend about the NFL,
and they were lamenting the fact that the NFL is
Sunday afternoon and now Sunday night and the traditional Monday
night and a Thursday night. And one of the guys
on whatever show it was on, was saying Hey, we
need a Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday night NFL game as well.

(02:17):
And the other was like, no, the NFL needs to
eliminate the Monday night game and just play Thursdays and Sundays.
And they do, and they play occasional Saturdays in late
December once we get to the end of the regular season,
after the college games are over with, and certainly the
playoff games are often on Saturdays. And here's my thoughts
about the NFL. When I was a kid, baseball was

(02:42):
the king sport. We would still watch baseball. There was
a game on Saturday afternoon, there was a game on
Monday night. But with the advent of cable television and
now at base television, you can watch any baseball game
in the world anywhere you want, on any given night
from March to September and into the playoffs, or listen
to it. Listen to it on the Major League Baseball
app free plug for them.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, which you a a arm and a leg for.
It's not that much. Twenty bucks a month for eight months.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's and if that's and listen, it's way better than
the craft that's on television.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I can tell you that.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And I can watch it at home on my TV
with the MLB at bat app or I can listen
in the car if I want to hear the serious
XM usually gives you the hometown feed, but I may
want to hear the visiting team feed. So now it
can do that, And so baseball has become easily accessible.
There's one hundred and sixty two games, and it's really

(03:36):
hard to bet on it unless you understand gambling and
the NBA.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know why you.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Would ever want to bet on an NBA game, because
the game could be a thirty point spread going into
the fourth quarter and all the starters sit on the
bench and the final score is eight and you had
nine to cover and you just lost.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
But football is.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
The sport that anybody can understand lyne and understand over
and unders. And since the early nineties, football is slowly
and more quickly become the America's favorite sport, favorite pastime,
and something that we look forward to. I don't think
it's possible to oversaturate the NFL. And as I said

(04:19):
when we were discussing this briefly in the first hour,
let's say you are a Miami Dolphins fan, well in
San Antonio, you're rarely going to get the Dolphins unless
they're playing Houston or Dallas. You're certainly not going to
get a Dolphins game unless it's the Marquee matchup on
the Fox game or the CBS three o'clock game, or

(04:39):
they're playing a noon game or a three o'clock game
against Houston or Dallas. Or you might get the Dolphins
if they're playing on Sunday night or on Monday night
or on Thursday if you want to buy the Prime package.
So your chances to watch your team play that you've
been a fan of are limited unless you pay more
for it. If there weren't more games during the week,

(05:02):
and I'm not a proponent that we should have a
game every time of the week, but if there were,
there'd be a better chance that you would occasionally get
to see your team play. And now with the NFL
Sunday Ticket, with the Red Zone coverage, you can watch
football wherever you want and most of the time, let's
face it, most of you that are subscribers to NFL

(05:22):
Red Zone are either gambling or playing fantasy sports or both.
You are keeping track of what you're doing. And first,
the first stage of admitting that there's a problem, or
knowing that there's a problem is admitting that you have one,
and not that I care whether you gamble or play
fantasy football or not. But I disagree with those on
that show that said that the NFL is oversaturated. The

(05:45):
NFL is a fifty two week league. The Roger Goodell
and Paul Tagliabu before him have done a far better
job as commissioners of the NFL than Pete Roselle did.
Because Pete rosell I ever got involved with the gambling stuff.
Pete rosel would be turning over in his grave if
he knew what was going on with the things that

(06:07):
we don't do that we do now that was taboo
in the past. We have in game lines on sporting events.
We have embraced the gambling thing because they're throwing too
much money at us not to from a league standpoint,
So the NFL, I think, is always going to be
king and I think most of us can't wait. We're
at the way from training camp and we're nine weeks away,

(06:30):
so you know, we're we're about eleven weeks away from
the first football game, ten weeks away now from the
first college football game. We can't wait for football to
get here. And the worst thing about the Tuesday after
the Super Bowl. We get to watch the Super Bowl
on Sunday, we get to talk about it on Monday,
and then we have to wait for combine in the
draft before we talk about it again, or almost, you know,

(06:51):
seven months or so, six months or so before we
get to another game, and so the season shorter. There's
fewer games. You can look at the point of a
baseball season, there's one hundred and sixty two games, and
if you lose sixty games, which is basically thirty percent
of your games, if you lose a little bit less,
a little bit more than thirty percent of your games,

(07:13):
there's a pretty good chance you're either winning your division
or you're a wildcard team at worst. If you win
one hundred games in the NBA, if you win, if
you win sixty percent of your games, that's forty eight wins,
and that's usually going to get your playoff spot. And
in baseball or in football, if you don't win at
least two thirds of your games, you have a very

(07:37):
unless you're just in a terrible division, you don't have
a very good chance of making the playoffs. Every football
game matters at both the pro and college level because
there's so many fewer games.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So I don't see where we're ever going to.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Get this oversaturated as long as fantasy and gambling continues,
because that's what everybody's a good portion of people are
watching the games for.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Well, that's the that's the big thing right there is
it's the gambling and all that to where that's going
to lead to more of NFL games being randomly throughout
the week than just the regular Monday Thursday games.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I mean, look at it from this year.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
We're gonna have the Christmas Day games and it's on
Wednesday this year, Thursday last year it was Wednesday Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Christmas is on Thursday this year.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
So I mean, if they're going to keep that mindset,
then we know at some point it's gonna be on
a Wednesday, it's gonna be on a Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
And it's just I think there is a.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Little bit too much of an NFL saturation to where
it's they want to have control over every single day.
And I get that from a marketing standpoint, we want
you to think about us twenty four to seven, which
we already do, but like you mentioned, it's I think
it's a little bit of a gambling thing because now
it's hey, we're not making enough money on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
How do we fix that?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh, let's add a game, and now we're going to
see ratings and everything and money revenue go up.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well particular day, But the Tuesday Wednesday game is going
to be on another app. It's going to be involved
getting Netflix, or it's going to be involved getting Amazon,
or it's gonna be get Paramodor Peak or Peacock and
you're gonna have to download another app and pay twenty
dollars a month to get it. But guess what most
football fans will do that there, especially if they have

(09:25):
an interest in fantasy and gambling about those teams. So
I don't see the NFL ever loosening its grip, if
you will, on the stranglehold of sports baseball. We don't
really talk about it that much, except for maybe trades
during the Hot Stow season the NBA. Once this season
is over, we'll kind of go silent with NBA talk.

(09:46):
In late July and into early August. We'll start talking
about the Spurs again around the time the training camp
comes in. But football is a topic that is usually
on the list almost every day of every week throughout
the season, and because they've extended it so far, and
I'm just as long as people can bet on it
or win money playing fantasy because I guarantee you there's

(10:08):
people out there right now that are trying to figure
out who am I drafting, what's the best what's my
draft board look like? For fantasy sports? And people will
start doing that at some point in August for those
that play fantasy sports. But I I don't I don't
see where we're ever going to oversaturate that.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, as long a's and as long as it's NFL,
I'm fine with NFL. I think, at least with some
of the other the other least.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's well college is playing Tuesday and Wednesday games at
the South End conference level, at the Conference USA level, obviously,
the American Conference has some Thursday and Friday games which
are necessary to get on TV.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
See that that.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That's another thing is the NFL wants to be such
a priority, you know. And I hate to bring in
Coach Trailer in on this, but he he, he has
gone on record and said he really doesn't like to
play fight Friday night game.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Especially especially home games on Friday night.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Because that's a Texas ritual tradition.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Things there's in this state where it's Friday. I mean, hell,
they made movie and made a.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Serious Well, the Roadrunners are hoping to get an average
of about thirty to thirty four thousand people of the game.
That would be a good average for them to have.
And let's say they get to that level. I think
they're in the mid twenties to high twenties right now,
maybe close to thirty on the average with tickets sold.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
But if you have.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
A Friday night game, anybody in San Antonio that's got
a kid or an interest in a high school game
is skipping the UTSA game, or for that matter, if
Texas played on a Friday night in Austin, Texas is
going to lose you know, you know, seven or eight
thousand fans to a Friday night high school football game,
especially if their kid plays at West Lake or or
Lake Travis or one of the premier schools in the

(11:53):
Austin area. So I think that's he's got something about that.
But it also understands the exposure when we go on
the road for football, typically we get to wherever we're
going five o'clock five thirty, I track down any coach
or player that I couldn't get during the week, and
finish up the pregame show, do the tape segment with

(12:14):
Lisa for the next day, and we go to dinner
and then we go back to the hotel area and
watch football. And if it's Louisiana Tech in Middle Tennessee,
that's the game we're watching. And I would imagine that
every team, because even the home teams go to hotels
and there's usually a time whether it's eight o'clock or
nine o'clock or ten thirty or whatever that it's you

(12:36):
be in your room and lights out at a certain time.
For the players, well, guess what they're turning on. They're
turning on ESPN and they're watching latech in Middle Tennessee.
So it is a gold mine from a TV standpoint
for all those schools that elect to play on Friday.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
And this coming year, UTSA.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
With the Tulane game at home, in the game at
South Florida are going to play on Thursday nights, which
I think is better than Friday because you're not detracting
from your school audience as much. There's a few Thursday
night games, but the majority of them.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Are on Fridays. Real quick as well. You're talking about
NBA Draft. NBA Draft next next Wednesday, June twenty fifth,
and then June twenty sixth. I don't like the fact
that they're doing two days because it's no disrespect to.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
The round two guys. But you're round two for a reason.
The round two takes twenty minutes to do. It's just
rapid fire. You get two minutes between picks. Yeah, but
they're they're following the lead of the NFL, and they're
trying to stretch it all out and they'll get great
ratings for Wednesday night and nobody cares about those that
are drafted in the second round.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah. That being said, we will be having a NBA
Draft show next Wednesday, hosted by Dylan Emering, who's you
know the fanatics here on Saturday from ten am to noon.
Does the Spurs pregame as well and everybody who fills
in every now and then with Andrew Zimmil. So they
will be doing a draft show that will be on WOAI,

(13:58):
but we will be carrying it here as.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well on Ticket seven seven o'clock next week.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Next week, next Wednesday, seven pm to nine pm.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
All Right, Kevin Durant still in the news, wants to
maybe come to San Antonio, but does Phoenix want to
send him here. We'll discuss the trade possibilities next on
The Andy Everage Show.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
On the tickets,
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