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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, six thirty seven, it's the Andy Evertt Show
on the ticket. We have history about to being made
this week in Major League Baseball and a female up
will be in the lineup for the first time for
a three game series. Jen Powell, who's been in the
minor leagues for a while, will make her debut as
(00:23):
the first women an umpire in a Major League Baseball game.
I didn't realize this, but it's been twenty eight years
since a woman first officiated an NBA game. Really, so
nineteen ninety seven. I thought it was much later than that.
I was about say, I was thinking like maybe ten
or twenty twelve somewhere running there.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
No, I don't, because, man, who is like the first one?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I just saw the stat this is the first Major
League Baseball is the last of the major sports to
do this. Football did it. I think I'll pull that
up in a second. But it's been twenty eight years
in since the NBA did it. I feel like Violet Palmer.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I feel like football was like somewhere in the mid
to mid to late two thousands, or like twenty tens
somewhere around there by the way. On NFL Network right now,
we just had a putt return for a touchdown for
the degenerate gamblers out there. The Baltimore Ravens, pinning the
extra point, are leading the Indianapolis Colts with two minutes
(01:29):
and fifteen seconds in the first quarter, thirteen to three.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Shannon Easton was the first line judge. She worked a
preseason game in August of twenty twelve, and Sarah Thomas
is the first to start doing it full time.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
In twenty fifteen in the NFL. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Violet Palmer. I remember a Violet Palmer, but I thought
it was in the early two thousands or mid two thousands,
not all the way back to twenty twenties, twenty eight
years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, I know there's I want to say, at least five,
maybe six, uh women women women NBA referees. The one,
the one that comes to mind is actually more your
gli like.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Laren hull Camp still officiating.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I believe Lauren Holt Camp is as well.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I know Pop got into that. She ran him real
quick a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But uh, if if we wouldn't have been talking about this,
I would have been able to give you more of them,
because I've gotten over the years to where I have
learned the referees names, whether it's the men or the women,
just so I can be like, okay, because obviously with
working with Bill sometimes they didn't get the stats, so
it's like, hey, here's who's working tonight. But yeah, Ashley
(02:46):
more Glike is the one that I that I can
recall the most.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Right, So, Jim Palace gonna do the Marlin Spray Series
in Atlanta. She'll work the bases in two games and
Sundays she's gonna work behind home plate, so she'll be calling.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Balls and strike Do we know how tall she is?
I don't think that matters there, Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I can assure you she will be absolutely light years
better than what Angel Rnandez was and he was in the.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
League for way too long. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well, because again, and it's not that I don't think
that she won't do a great job. We know that
with the height differential between certain umpires.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Y you know, there's five foot five guys and there's
six foot five guys that have umpired baseball over the years,
and they're going to the strike zone is going to
be the strike zone until we get to the robots,
probably next year. And so it's the most important thing
in and whether you're a woman or a man, when
you're a rookie umpire and you're calling your first game,
(03:43):
the most important thing is for you to be consistent
with the strike zone, and both catchers know where the
strike zone is, because if you're giving me a pitch
but you're not giving the other guy a pitch, that's
what we're going to have a problem. And it doesn't
matter who you are or what your background is or whatever.
Those are the things that are most important to catchers
because they're trying to make sure that they protect their
(04:05):
team and especially their pitchers. And you're not allowed to
argue balls and strikes, but managers are not afraid to
get thrown out of games Aaron Boone if they don't
think that the balls and strikes are being called properly.
And it's kind of like a coach getting a technical foul.
It's an opportunity to wake up the referee or the
(04:25):
or you or your team say listen, let's get this right.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's one thing. If you think it's a ball, that's
the thing. It's a ball.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But that pitch was called a strike ten times in
a row, and now you're calling it a ball, and
I don't think there's any manager that's out there that's
not paying very close attention to pretty much every single
thing that's happening on the course all the time, on
the court all the time, or the field all the time.
So that'll be the first thing that I think that
she'll she'll be judged on, and I'm sure she'll be
(04:53):
a little bit nervous, but once the first pitch is
thown and she calls the first ball or first strike you,
that'll go away.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I mean, she's been doing this quite some time. She's
done over twelve hundred minor league games, so.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
She's paid the dues and now she gets an opportunity
to do it. And I don't care what I don't think.
I don't think her gender is going to matter one
way or the other as to whether she's a good
umpire or not. She's either going to be a good umpire,
she's not going to be a good umpire, and to me,
that's that will be judge. And umpires have bad games,
(05:29):
just like managers have bad games and players have bad games.
But Angel Rnanda's had bad games for thirty years and
they let him keep doing them. If you're going to
be bad at it, then you should figure out something
that you're decent at. But I don't think she will.
I think she'll Obviously she takes this very seriously. It's
very important to her. She was elated when she got
the call working a minor league game, and now, just
like you know managers and players, she gets to go
(05:51):
to the show.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Now I do wonder whenever it happens, because it will
happen at some point.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
When she quick is the hook? How quick is the hook?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But also what is the reaction from the player as
far as you know, addressing her, because remember last year
when Joel Embiide I think it was against Ashley morior
glike and we talked about it where he was standing
over her, you know, berating her.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And it was like, dude, well.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Because Bryce Harper is gonna do it, we know it.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's what Bryce Harper does. Bryce Harper will.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But generally speaking, you don't get to say much on
balls and strikes before you're gone because you can't argue
balls and strikes.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's an automatic injection.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Now you can look, you can talk to the umpire
and you know, in between things go, man, you're kind
of inconsistencyday, aren't you what are you seeing that we're
not seeing and try to get their attention that way.
But typically when it's a ball, when it's a bad
ball or a bad strike call, there's somebody in the
dugout chirping away, and it's usually the pitching coach and
the bench coach and the manager and the umpire can't
(07:00):
figure out who's talking. And that's when you get okay,
I've had enough. First next word out of anybody's mouth,
you're gone. And then somebody pops out of the dugout, boom,
They're gone before they get there. So I'm sure she's
thrown managers out of the game before that, are guys.
And because it's in the minor league, the argument probably
wasn't on anything other than somebody's phone that nobody cared
about when it went viral because it was a game
(07:22):
between Nashville and whoever they were playing. But I think
she'll handle that fine.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm just I'm just waiting for her to stand her
ground and just like chest up, just get it, like
the earl weaver met.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I argue right back
with it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah yeah, you're wrong. No, you're wrong. Whatever they get
out of here, and then and then all right, showers and.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Then and then and then you get the uh like
in in Major League or in the Bull durham Man.
You must have used the words you can't use the
umpire exactly. There you go, all right, one more second
it to go. We wrap up the day.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Next it's the Andy Everage Show on the ticket
All right, six thirty seven, it's the Andy Evertt Show
on the ticket. We have history about to being made
this week in Major League Baseball and a female up
will be in the lineup for the first time for
a three game series. Jen Powell, who's been in the
minor leagues for a while, will make her debut as
(00:23):
the first women an umpire in a Major League Baseball game.
I didn't realize this, but it's been twenty eight years
since a woman first officiated an NBA game. Really, so
nineteen ninety seven. I thought it was much later than that.
I was about say, I was thinking like maybe ten
or twenty twelve somewhere running there.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
No, I don't, because, man, who is like the first one?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I just saw the stat this is the first Major
League Baseball is the last of the major sports to
do this. Football did it. I think I'll pull that
up in a second. But it's been twenty eight years
in since the NBA did it. I feel like Violet Palmer.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I feel like football was like somewhere in the mid
to mid to late two thousands, or like twenty tens
somewhere around there by the way. On NFL Network right now,
we just had a putt return for a touchdown for
the degenerate gamblers out there. The Baltimore Ravens, pinning the
extra point, are leading the Indianapolis Colts with two minutes
(01:29):
and fifteen seconds in the first quarter, thirteen to three.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Shannon Easton was the first line judge. She worked a
preseason game in August of twenty twelve, and Sarah Thomas
is the first to start doing it full time.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
In twenty fifteen in the NFL. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Violet Palmer. I remember a Violet Palmer, but I thought
it was in the early two thousands or mid two thousands,
not all the way back to twenty twenties, twenty eight
years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, I know there's I want to say, at least five,
maybe six, uh women women women NBA referees. The one,
the one that comes to mind is actually more your
gli like.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Laren hull Camp still officiating.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I believe Lauren Holt Camp is as well.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I know Pop got into that. She ran him real
quick a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But uh, if if we wouldn't have been talking about this,
I would have been able to give you more of them,
because I've gotten over the years to where I have
learned the referees names, whether it's the men or the women,
just so I can be like, okay, because obviously with
working with Bill sometimes they didn't get the stats, so
it's like, hey, here's who's working tonight. But yeah, Ashley
(02:46):
more Glike is the one that I that I can
recall the most.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Right, So, Jim Palace gonna do the Marlin Spray Series
in Atlanta. She'll work the bases in two games and
Sundays she's gonna work behind home plate, so she'll be calling.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Balls and strike Do we know how tall she is?
I don't think that matters there, Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I can assure you she will be absolutely light years
better than what Angel Rnandez was and he was in the.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
League for way too long. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well, because again, and it's not that I don't think
that she won't do a great job. We know that
with the height differential between certain umpires.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Y you know, there's five foot five guys and there's
six foot five guys that have umpired baseball over the years,
and they're going to the strike zone is going to
be the strike zone until we get to the robots,
probably next year. And so it's the most important thing
in and whether you're a woman or a man, when
you're a rookie umpire and you're calling your first game,
(03:43):
the most important thing is for you to be consistent
with the strike zone, and both catchers know where the
strike zone is, because if you're giving me a pitch
but you're not giving the other guy a pitch, that's
what we're going to have a problem. And it doesn't
matter who you are or what your background is or whatever.
Those are the things that are most important to catchers
because they're trying to make sure that they protect their
(04:05):
team and especially their pitchers. And you're not allowed to
argue balls and strikes, but managers are not afraid to
get thrown out of games Aaron Boone if they don't
think that the balls and strikes are being called properly.
And it's kind of like a coach getting a technical foul.
It's an opportunity to wake up the referee or the
(04:25):
or you or your team say listen, let's get this right.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's one thing. If you think it's a ball, that's
the thing. It's a ball.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But that pitch was called a strike ten times in
a row, and now you're calling it a ball, and
I don't think there's any manager that's out there that's
not paying very close attention to pretty much every single
thing that's happening on the course all the time, on
the court all the time, or the field all the time.
So that'll be the first thing that I think that
she'll she'll be judged on, and I'm sure she'll be
(04:53):
a little bit nervous, but once the first pitch is
thown and she calls the first ball or first strike you,
that'll go away.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I mean, she's been doing this quite some time. She's
done over twelve hundred minor league games, so.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
She's paid the dues and now she gets an opportunity
to do it. And I don't care what I don't think.
I don't think her gender is going to matter one
way or the other as to whether she's a good
umpire or not. She's either going to be a good umpire,
she's not going to be a good umpire, and to me,
that's that will be judge. And umpires have bad games,
(05:29):
just like managers have bad games and players have bad games.
But Angel Rnanda's had bad games for thirty years and
they let him keep doing them. If you're going to
be bad at it, then you should figure out something
that you're decent at. But I don't think she will.
I think she'll Obviously she takes this very seriously. It's
very important to her. She was elated when she got
the call working a minor league game, and now, just
like you know managers and players, she gets to go
(05:51):
to the show.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Now I do wonder whenever it happens, because it will
happen at some point.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
When she quick is the hook? How quick is the hook?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But also what is the reaction from the player as
far as you know, addressing her, because remember last year
when Joel Embiide I think it was against Ashley morior
glike and we talked about it where he was standing
over her, you know, berating her.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And it was like, dude, well.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Because Bryce Harper is gonna do it, we know it.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's what Bryce Harper does. Bryce Harper will.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
But generally speaking, you don't get to say much on
balls and strikes before you're gone because you can't argue
balls and strikes.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's an automatic injection.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Now you can look, you can talk to the umpire
and you know, in between things go, man, you're kind
of inconsistencyday, aren't you what are you seeing that we're
not seeing and try to get their attention that way.
But typically when it's a ball, when it's a bad
ball or a bad strike call, there's somebody in the
dugout chirping away, and it's usually the pitching coach and
the bench coach and the manager and the umpire can't
(07:00):
figure out who's talking. And that's when you get okay,
I've had enough. First next word out of anybody's mouth,
you're gone. And then somebody pops out of the dugout, boom,
They're gone before they get there. So I'm sure she's
thrown managers out of the game before that, are guys.
And because it's in the minor league, the argument probably
wasn't on anything other than somebody's phone that nobody cared
about when it went viral because it was a game
(07:22):
between Nashville and whoever they were playing. But I think
she'll handle that fine.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm just I'm just waiting for her to stand her
ground and just like chest up, just get it, like
the earl weaver met.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I argue right back
with it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah yeah, you're wrong. No, you're wrong. Whatever they get
out of here, and then and then all right, showers and.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Then and then and then you get the uh like
in in Major League or in the Bull durham Man.
You must have used the words you can't use the
umpire exactly. There you go, all right, one more second
it to go. We wrap up the day.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Next it's the Andy Everage Show on the ticket
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