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Speaker 1 (00:01):
By thirty eight on the ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's the Indy Everage Show on this Thursday. Let's see here,
we got a baseball series going on. The Astros and
the Yankees play Game three of the series tonight, and
Seattle lost last night and the Astros won, so they're
now four up on Seattle, right, but with the Yankees
loss and Toronto's win, they're now three back. This is
(00:23):
a big game tonight for the Yankees because they don't
want to be any worse than three back, depending on
what the I don't even know if the Blue Jays
are playing tonight, but they may even beat them into
New York because the Blue Jays start the series I
think tomorrow in Yankee Stadium. So yeah, the b and
Jays are off tonight, so there are in New York
and the Yankees will get there at four.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
O'clock in the morning. So here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
There was a lot of controversy by both teams about
home plate vampire Brian Walsh last night, who may have
just had a bad day. Umpires are human beings. They
make error. But according to the people that track this,
and it's an independent survey, it's not somebody in New
York or Houston that's doing this. It's an independent guy
(01:11):
that is evaluating the play of the umpire. And apparently
there were twenty one pitches last night that Brian Walsh
got incorrect, according to the K Zone, and sixteen of
those were against the Yankees. Now, you can always say
that this balance is out through the course of the year,
but as you get closer to the end of the year,
every little.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Thing matters a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And there was a sequence in the eighth inning when
the Astros took a four run lead to where David
Williams was on the mound, And Devin Williams has struggled
mightily this year for the Yankees, worked the count to
three and one and then got three and two with
what he thought was a perfect pitch strike. It was
a called strike. And then on the very next pitch
(01:54):
he threw another change up. According to the monitor in
the review, it was in the exact same location it
was before. According to K Zone, both were strikes, but
the second one was called a ball. And that's the
aggravating part for a pitcher, a catcher, and a manager
and even a hitter for that standpoint, because that walked.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
In a run and then they gave up another run.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And then it got to an eight to four lead,
and then the Yankees got a three run home run
in the ninth, but Jazz Chisholm struck out on another
controversial call that was a little bit off the plate.
The one with Chisholm was perfectly framed by the Astros catcher,
so he got away with that. But I kind of
just kind of feel like that when you have to
(02:39):
when the catcher Jerksy's glove into the zone, and there's
guys that are good at framing pitches and there's guys
that are not, And the Astros catcher did a good
job with that last night, so I could kind of
give that one a pass. I think if you're a hitter,
you got to swing at that and try to foil
it off and wait for another bad pitch.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But for an umpire in a.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Crucial series, to miss twenty one pitches, that is a
recipe for you no longer getting to call pitches. And
we may have more robots in the future doing this.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I mean that would equate to what, let's just say,
ten percent of all pitches.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, there's probably two hundred pitches, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
For both teams.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So we'll just say two hundred.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So at that point my quick central math, I can
do that quick. You know, ten percent. It's not great,
but I just it's the human aspect of baseball that
I know. Traditionalists like you don't want to just rely
(03:38):
on the robot umpire saying in the ear ball.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I watch games and well, no matter who I want
to win, I see a pitch and I'm like, who
got away with that one?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Or are you kidding me? How did you not call
that a strike? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And I think the centerfield camera gives you the best
angle for that, although their managers are managing from the
dugout and they feel like they've got a good angle
of it too. If you've been around long enough, you
probably understand what is and isn't a strike. And the
rule has always been you can't argue balls and strikes
with an umpire. That's a judgment call. Now what Major
(04:18):
League Baseball is likely to go to next year, I
think it's pretty much a done deal. It's not that
they're going to have an umpire calling ball and strike
on every pitch. The umpire is still going to straight
strike one, ball one, but they're going to do what
they did in the spring training where when the batter
hit taps his helmet he can get a review if
he thinks it's a wrong call. And I think there's
going to be a limited number of challenges that either
(04:40):
players or teams can have. I don't think they've completely
worked out the details of that. So if I'm Devin Williams,
I would have definitely challenged. And I believe it's only
the pitcher or the catcher are the only ones that
can challenge. I don't even think the manager can challenge.
But obviously the manager would tell the pitcher or catcher
to challenge. But I think it's the pitcher, catcher and
batter of the w ones.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That can challenge.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So if if I were Devin Williams, I would have said,
look at both of those pitches. You called the first
one to strike, so are they both balls? They both
strikes because they were the same pitch, So that's a
judgment call. But once you make the call and the
call stands, you can't go back and change it. So
to me, the second pitch should have been a strike.
And then the other part of it is if you
(05:22):
challenge and you're wrong, do you get more challenges. If
you're right, do you get less? I mean, if you're wrong,
do you get less challenges? If you're right, you get more.
We don't want to just have every pitch being challenged
because it we'll be out there longer than before we
had the pitch clock, and the game is certainly faster
and smoother and under three hours more often now that
we have a pitchclock than we had before. So I
(05:43):
mean I went to that game in August and it
was three hours in one minute, that's how long that
game lasted. So it was that's been a good thing
to have the pitch clock. So the robot umpire will
only come into play if there's a challenge, but there
would have.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Been a ton of challenges in last night's game. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I don't know if they've come out yet with the
rules as far as how many times or if they have,
I'm not saying yeah, or what the potential consequences would be.
You know, if it would be something like, hey, if
you lose this, then then it's an out, you know,
not you don't lose a time out, you lose an out,
or maybe it's hey, you lose a mound visit. But realistically,
(06:22):
is that that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, my guess is is that pitchers will get three
challenges a game, and I don't know whether teams are
individual hitters will get a challenge per game and if
you if you're right, you get it over and if
you're not right, you don't or you lose it.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Maybe you get two.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't know how they're going to figure all this out,
but between now and spring training, I'm sure they will.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I would say at least of all the replays Andy,
that we have so much subjectivity to. At times it's
here's the box, is the ball in the in the
zone out of the zone, and.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
How much of the baseball is actually touching the well?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And that's and is it in the zone when it
crosses the plate, because there's a lot of times it
becomes a strike after it's crossed the plate, and that's
it's the strike or a ball when the ball crosses
the plate.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, Which, at least for the computers and the robots,
they can all of the analytics stuff, they can program
that in there, so that I think at least would
be it would probably be the quickest replay that we
would have pretty much it was Hey, they're challenging, and okay,
strike strike three.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
All right, We've got Project Marvel and Barkley in the
six o'clock hour, and more coming up next as The
Andy Everett Show continues on the Ticket
By thirty eight on the ticket.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's the Indy Everage Show on this Thursday. Let's see here,
we got a baseball series going on. The Astros and
the Yankees play Game three of the series tonight, and
Seattle lost last night and the Astros won, so they're
now four up on Seattle, right, but with the Yankees
loss and Toronto's win, they're now three back. This is
(00:23):
a big game tonight for the Yankees because they don't
want to be any worse than three back, depending on
what the I don't even know if the Blue Jays
are playing tonight, but they may even beat them into
New York because the Blue Jays start the series I
think tomorrow in Yankee Stadium. So yeah, the b and
Jays are off tonight, so there are in New York
and the Yankees will get there at four.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
O'clock in the morning. So here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
There was a lot of controversy by both teams about
home plate vampire Brian Walsh last night, who may have
just had a bad day. Umpires are human beings. They
make error. But according to the people that track this,
and it's an independent survey, it's not somebody in New
York or Houston that's doing this. It's an independent guy
(01:11):
that is evaluating the play of the umpire. And apparently
there were twenty one pitches last night that Brian Walsh
got incorrect, according to the K Zone, and sixteen of
those were against the Yankees. Now, you can always say
that this balance is out through the course of the year,
but as you get closer to the end of the year,
every little.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Thing matters a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And there was a sequence in the eighth inning when
the Astros took a four run lead to where David
Williams was on the mound, And Devin Williams has struggled
mightily this year for the Yankees, worked the count to
three and one and then got three and two with
what he thought was a perfect pitch strike. It was
a called strike. And then on the very next pitch
(01:54):
he threw another change up. According to the monitor in
the review, it was in the exact same location it
was before. According to K Zone, both were strikes, but
the second one was called a ball. And that's the
aggravating part for a pitcher, a catcher, and a manager
and even a hitter for that standpoint, because that walked.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
In a run and then they gave up another run.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And then it got to an eight to four lead,
and then the Yankees got a three run home run
in the ninth, but Jazz Chisholm struck out on another
controversial call that was a little bit off the plate.
The one with Chisholm was perfectly framed by the Astros catcher,
so he got away with that. But I kind of
just kind of feel like that when you have to
(02:39):
when the catcher Jerksy's glove into the zone, and there's
guys that are good at framing pitches and there's guys
that are not, And the Astros catcher did a good
job with that last night, so I could kind of
give that one a pass. I think if you're a hitter,
you got to swing at that and try to foil
it off and wait for another bad pitch.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But for an umpire in a.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Crucial series, to miss twenty one pitches, that is a
recipe for you no longer getting to call pitches. And
we may have more robots in the future doing this.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I mean that would equate to what, let's just say,
ten percent of all pitches.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, there's probably two hundred pitches, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
For both teams.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So we'll just say two hundred.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So at that point my quick central math, I can
do that quick. You know, ten percent. It's not great,
but I just it's the human aspect of baseball that
I know. Traditionalists like you don't want to just rely
(03:38):
on the robot umpire saying in the ear ball.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I watch games and well, no matter who I want
to win, I see a pitch and I'm like, who
got away with that one?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Or are you kidding me? How did you not call
that a strike? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And I think the centerfield camera gives you the best
angle for that, although their managers are managing from the
dugout and they feel like they've got a good angle
of it too. If you've been around long enough, you
probably understand what is and isn't a strike. And the
rule has always been you can't argue balls and strikes
with an umpire. That's a judgment call. Now what Major
(04:18):
League Baseball is likely to go to next year, I
think it's pretty much a done deal. It's not that
they're going to have an umpire calling ball and strike
on every pitch. The umpire is still going to straight
strike one, ball one, but they're going to do what
they did in the spring training where when the batter
hit taps his helmet he can get a review if
he thinks it's a wrong call. And I think there's
going to be a limited number of challenges that either
(04:40):
players or teams can have. I don't think they've completely
worked out the details of that. So if I'm Devin Williams,
I would have definitely challenged. And I believe it's only
the pitcher or the catcher are the only ones that
can challenge. I don't even think the manager can challenge.
But obviously the manager would tell the pitcher or catcher
to challenge. But I think it's the pitcher, catcher and
batter of the w ones.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That can challenge.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So if if I were Devin Williams, I would have said,
look at both of those pitches. You called the first
one to strike, so are they both balls? They both
strikes because they were the same pitch, So that's a
judgment call. But once you make the call and the
call stands, you can't go back and change it. So
to me, the second pitch should have been a strike.
And then the other part of it is if you
(05:22):
challenge and you're wrong, do you get more challenges. If
you're right, do you get less? I mean, if you're wrong,
do you get less challenges? If you're right, you get more.
We don't want to just have every pitch being challenged
because it we'll be out there longer than before we
had the pitch clock, and the game is certainly faster
and smoother and under three hours more often now that
we have a pitchclock than we had before. So I
(05:43):
mean I went to that game in August and it
was three hours in one minute, that's how long that
game lasted. So it was that's been a good thing
to have the pitch clock. So the robot umpire will
only come into play if there's a challenge, but there
would have.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Been a ton of challenges in last night's game. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I don't know if they've come out yet with the
rules as far as how many times or if they have,
I'm not saying yeah, or what the potential consequences would be.
You know, if it would be something like, hey, if
you lose this, then then it's an out, you know,
not you don't lose a time out, you lose an out,
or maybe it's hey, you lose a mound visit. But realistically,
(06:22):
is that that big of a deal.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, my guess is is that pitchers will get three
challenges a game, and I don't know whether teams are
individual hitters will get a challenge per game and if
you if you're right, you get it over and if
you're not right, you don't or you lose it.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Maybe you get two.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't know how they're going to figure all this out,
but between now and spring training, I'm sure they will.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I would say at least of all the replays Andy,
that we have so much subjectivity to. At times it's
here's the box, is the ball in the in the
zone out of the zone, and.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
How much of the baseball is actually touching the well?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And that's and is it in the zone when it
crosses the plate, because there's a lot of times it
becomes a strike after it's crossed the plate, and that's
it's the strike or a ball when the ball crosses
the plate.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, Which, at least for the computers and the robots,
they can all of the analytics stuff, they can program
that in there, so that I think at least would
be it would probably be the quickest replay that we
would have pretty much it was Hey, they're challenging, and okay,
strike strike three.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
All right, We've got Project Marvel and Barkley in the
six o'clock hour, and more coming up next as The
Andy Everett Show continues on the Ticket
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