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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Anyway, we'll get into that more coming up in a bit.
I like the billion and ap are hiring for James Madison.
That's a good deal. He'll be able to recruit wherever
he wants, and he had a good run at Louisiana.
And we'll get into the college stuff coming up in
a bit. Let's talk Cowboys first. The Cowboys are The
Eagles today announced that Jalen Carter is not going to
play in their game on Monday night and so against
(00:23):
the Chargers. So that really helps the Chargers, I think,
And not only are they the home have the home
field advantage now they don't have to worry about blocking
him the whole game. But the Cowboys now are sitting
in the catbird seat. They're going to play a Detroit
team that is very beat up. That a Detroit team
that's a little bit desperate because they're behind both Green
Bay and Chicago and the NFC North, and a team
(00:48):
that offensively still has some of the same players that
had last year and the year before, but somebody else
calling the plays. And they've won three games in a
row and it's not January yet, so they shouldn't be
in a in a situation where they're going to let
anybody down. That usually comes later. So I'm thinking that
this is a good opportunity for the Cowboys, the addition
(01:09):
of Pickings to their lineup. And it may be a
bad thing for Jerry because he's going to have to
pay him, and we know he's going to go through
that same song and dance he did with everybody else.
I don't know why he just doesn't get it over
with and pay him so it's cheaper. But he likes
spending his own money and he likes the publicity that
comes with dragging stuff out.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, and that's what he's paying for. He'll pay more
in the contract terms to have this entire nation talk
about said contract negotiations for six months for a full
calendar years.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And it'll get done in training camp after he holds
out for three weeks, and then he'll suck the first
two games of the season because he won't go through
training camp.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Exactly the same way CD said two years ago when
they signed his deal the day before the season started,
that I needed training camp. That's actually important reps to
have under my belt.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, let's not get caught up in them in because
we all know that publicity is far more, far more
important than training camp bingo. Yeah, if they're not talking
about you, then there's a problem. It doesn't matter if
it's good or bad, as long as the conversation doesn't cease.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I don't know if you saw it or not, I
would highly suggest everyone watched the new season of Hard Knocks,
the end season with the NFC East. The first episode
aired Tuesday night. You literally saw exactly what makes Jerry
you know, equal parts great and infuriating the You know,
(02:36):
obviously you got to give him credit for the moves
bringing in Quinnin Williams that's changed the defense, the George
Pickens trade for only a third round pick I mean,
those look like amazing moves now. But if you watch
the first episode Tuesday night, as Dak is running back
into the locker room after the win over the Chiefs,
he's got the turkey leg. He stops and he lets
(02:59):
Shoddy take a bite of the turkey leg that he's holding,
and then he turns his back to talk to the
rest of the team. And as he's got his back turned,
Jerry saw shot he get offered a bite, and so
Jerry ran over there, grabbed Dak's arm and took a
bite himself. He cannot have take one up him exactly.
That is that is Jerry in a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well it's it's also Jerry in a nutshell to have
that walkway to the locker room so the fans can
see the players as they go by. Of course, you know,
every time I see the way that the Cowboys do
things and I compare it to the way that the
Spurs do things, it's just night and day. And let's
(03:41):
let's face it, the Spurs way. A lot of people
don't like it, but it works because they win.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And it works when you have a transcendent.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
When you have Jim Duncan or Victor Women, that doesn't
work between it's a little bit more of a gray
area when you don't have that. But it's so interesting
how one one group doesn't care if there's publicity and
the other group seeks it every second of the day.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, you know, we have you have Mark Vandermere on
here every Tuesday, every week. When Dalton Schultz left the
Cowboys and went to the Texans, the first thing he
talked about was how the workout room, the you know
where they the weight room where they lift weights doesn't
have a giant glass wall so that people taking tours
(04:26):
of the facility can watch you work out. That was
mind blowing to him because that was just normalized in Dallas.
That's why they built the Star so they could sell
tours for that. Like it's all it's it's all out.
Out of both sides of.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
His mouth, I'm I'm, I'm kind of jaded being in
this business for as long as I have been, because
things like watching football practice. If I can sit in
a if they're if they're practicing, say at the Dome,
and I can sit in the press box where I
can look over the stadium and kind of see what
the plays are running and maybe what their tendencies are,
so that I know what's going to happen before I
(05:02):
call a game. I'm not necessarily know because the motion
changes every week anyway, and the plays change, and you
still have to be aware of who they are and
where they're going. But to sit on the sidelines and
watch practice, I mean, we are talking about practice here
and it is incredibly boring, but to some people it's
the most exciting thing they've ever done. I can't imagine
(05:25):
standing in front of a glass Wall and watching Dak
Prescott lift waits for thirty minutes. I got way more
important things to do than that. But I understand to
some people that made their day. Yeah, now imagine paying
for it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Pay for that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Jerry's getting rich off of that. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's ridiculous. I mean, look in terms of in terms
of their actual chances. I mean, this is again, to
go back to Jerry, this is playing exactly how he
wants it to. Because they first half the season everyone
was talking about because of how bad they were. That
didn't it didn't bother Jerry that they were bad. It
(06:04):
bothered Jerry that the fact that they might have been
so bad that no one would be talking about on
post Thanksgiving. Well, he's fixed that part of it. He's
got the you know, made the trades, got the guy's
back healthy. Where now they're going to stay relevant. Uh,
and now you're going to you know, see this this
(06:24):
playoff push where I mean, it's all out there, as
it has been a dozen times over the last two decades.
It's all out there in front of them. They can
control their own destiny. And with some of the you know,
some of the teams you need to pass, particularly the
Eagles facing their own bit of drama. Also in that
(06:46):
Hard Knocks episode, the Eagles don't feel like the Eagles
of last year even.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You know, I've thought about this for some time. I've
I've been in the same room with Jerry Jones before,
but never in a private setting. It's always been a
press conference or when we used to cover a cover
Cowboys camp, or maybe he'd do a media session. And
this was back in the nineties, pretty much the last
time I was in the same room with him. But
I would al what I would like to do if
(07:14):
you know me, know, they always talk about could you
have dinner with somebody. There'd be several people that I'd
want to have dinner with, but he would be one.
Because the way you get rich is to take chances.
If you're a conservative of your whole life, and you're
and you don't invest in things that are that are
not just super that are not that are conservative. Unless
(07:35):
you're really really patient and really don't want anything and
don't have any materialistic bone in your body, you're probably
not going to get to a place of nirvana where
you don't worry about anything. But I don't get the
fact that you gamble on everything every day of your life.
And it's the gambling rush. It's the the art of
the sale. It's chasing the sale, it's chasing the player.
(07:58):
It's knowing that it's costing you much to not sign
CD or DAK or in the future George Pickens until
the last minute. But you're you're rolling, You're rolling the
dice and you're hitting seven every time, and occasionally you
go snake eyes and you lose all your money, but
you don't care because you're gonna do it again the
next day. That's what We're gonna borrow it from somebody
else to get back to where you were.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And that's the most infuriating part of the Jerry experience
post you know, post Jimmy really is.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Can you just be a little conservative once in a while? No,
because it wouldn't be him.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And the overall value of that franchise just continues, not
only to.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's like the national debt. There's a ticker at the
end of it that every day it goes up a
couple of innings.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And what does it matter to Jerry? All he sees
is he's it's not only does he have the most
valuable franchise in the world. The gap between him and
number two just continues to grow year after year.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, it's and there's other people like Jerry that are
that way. But they're always in hustle mode and they
have been since they were probably three, and they stole
little Johnny's paper router something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, I would suggest, though, it's not all risk, high
risk for Jerry because right now I guarantee you Napi
Yeer's contract that James Madison is within a million dollars
of what shot he's being paid. Right Well, that's the
doubt one.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But see, that's the thing is that's conservative. Is Jerry's
not paying coaches. No, he never really has. You want
to be the coach of the Cowboys, go sell a
car dealership and get it, get your car and get
an endorsement. That's your extra money. He doesn't think he
has to pay coaches. And if he were the athletic
director at a university, he would not pay Lane Kiffin
(09:39):
ninety one million dollars. That's why Lane Kiffin's not coaching
the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Lane Kiffin's going to make more than one year than
the extent of whatever this current.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Deal, Shoddy is exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, if it's a four year deal, I guarantee you
Lane Kiffin makes more in one year than Shoddy Will.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, here's something else we're going to talk about in
a little bit when we get into the college stuff.
In the five o'clock cour Lane Kiffin made a comment
the other day he said, I have no idea what
my contract is, and people are rolling their eyes. I
absolutely believe him. I don't think he knows, and I'll
talk about that coming up in a little bit. All right,
Tiger's event that is going on, he's not playing the
Hero World Challenge that's in the Bahamas. Yannis may be traded,
(10:19):
Chris Paul is trying to figure out what house he's
going to live in, and more college football stuff to
get to as well. All that coming up four forty
five on the Ticket,
Anyway, we'll get into that more coming up in a bit.
I like the billion and ap are hiring for James Madison.
That's a good deal. He'll be able to recruit wherever
he wants, and he had a good run at Louisiana.
And we'll get into the college stuff coming up in
a bit. Let's talk Cowboys first. The Cowboys are The
Eagles today announced that Jalen Carter is not going to
play in their game on Monday night and so against
(00:23):
the Chargers. So that really helps the Chargers, I think,
And not only are they the home have the home
field advantage now they don't have to worry about blocking
him the whole game. But the Cowboys now are sitting
in the catbird seat. They're going to play a Detroit
team that is very beat up. That a Detroit team
that's a little bit desperate because they're behind both Green
Bay and Chicago and the NFC North, and a team
(00:48):
that offensively still has some of the same players that
had last year and the year before, but somebody else
calling the plays. And they've won three games in a
row and it's not January yet, so they shouldn't be
in a in a situation where they're going to let
anybody down. That usually comes later. So I'm thinking that
this is a good opportunity for the Cowboys, the addition
(01:09):
of Pickings to their lineup. And it may be a
bad thing for Jerry because he's going to have to
pay him, and we know he's going to go through
that same song and dance he did with everybody else.
I don't know why he just doesn't get it over
with and pay him so it's cheaper. But he likes
spending his own money and he likes the publicity that
comes with dragging stuff out.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, and that's what he's paying for. He'll pay more
in the contract terms to have this entire nation talk
about said contract negotiations for six months for a full
calendar years.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And it'll get done in training camp after he holds
out for three weeks, and then he'll suck the first
two games of the season because he won't go through
training camp.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Exactly the same way CD said two years ago when
they signed his deal the day before the season started,
that I needed training camp. That's actually important reps to
have under my belt.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, let's not get caught up in them in because
we all know that publicity is far more, far more
important than training camp bingo. Yeah, if they're not talking
about you, then there's a problem. It doesn't matter if
it's good or bad, as long as the conversation doesn't cease.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I don't know if you saw it or not, I
would highly suggest everyone watched the new season of Hard Knocks,
the end season with the NFC East. The first episode
aired Tuesday night. You literally saw exactly what makes Jerry
you know, equal parts great and infuriating the You know,
(02:36):
obviously you got to give him credit for the moves
bringing in Quinnin Williams that's changed the defense, the George
Pickens trade for only a third round pick I mean,
those look like amazing moves now. But if you watch
the first episode Tuesday night, as Dak is running back
into the locker room after the win over the Chiefs,
he's got the turkey leg. He stops and he lets
(02:59):
Shoddy take a bite of the turkey leg that he's holding,
and then he turns his back to talk to the
rest of the team. And as he's got his back turned,
Jerry saw shot he get offered a bite, and so
Jerry ran over there, grabbed Dak's arm and took a
bite himself. He cannot have take one up him exactly.
That is that is Jerry in a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well it's it's also Jerry in a nutshell to have
that walkway to the locker room so the fans can
see the players as they go by. Of course, you know,
every time I see the way that the Cowboys do
things and I compare it to the way that the
Spurs do things, it's just night and day. And let's
(03:41):
let's face it, the Spurs way. A lot of people
don't like it, but it works because they win.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And it works when you have a transcendent.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
When you have Jim Duncan or Victor Women, that doesn't
work between it's a little bit more of a gray
area when you don't have that. But it's so interesting
how one one group doesn't care if there's publicity and
the other group seeks it every second of the day.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, you know, we have you have Mark Vandermere on
here every Tuesday, every week. When Dalton Schultz left the
Cowboys and went to the Texans, the first thing he
talked about was how the workout room, the you know
where they the weight room where they lift weights doesn't
have a giant glass wall so that people taking tours
(04:26):
of the facility can watch you work out. That was
mind blowing to him because that was just normalized in Dallas.
That's why they built the Star so they could sell
tours for that. Like it's all it's it's all out.
Out of both sides of.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
His mouth, I'm I'm, I'm kind of jaded being in
this business for as long as I have been, because
things like watching football practice. If I can sit in
a if they're if they're practicing, say at the Dome,
and I can sit in the press box where I
can look over the stadium and kind of see what
the plays are running and maybe what their tendencies are,
so that I know what's going to happen before I
(05:02):
call a game. I'm not necessarily know because the motion
changes every week anyway, and the plays change, and you
still have to be aware of who they are and
where they're going. But to sit on the sidelines and
watch practice, I mean, we are talking about practice here
and it is incredibly boring, but to some people it's
the most exciting thing they've ever done. I can't imagine
(05:25):
standing in front of a glass Wall and watching Dak
Prescott lift waits for thirty minutes. I got way more
important things to do than that. But I understand to
some people that made their day. Yeah, now imagine paying
for it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Pay for that.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Jerry's getting rich off of that. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's ridiculous. I mean, look in terms of in terms
of their actual chances. I mean, this is again, to
go back to Jerry, this is playing exactly how he
wants it to. Because they first half the season everyone
was talking about because of how bad they were. That
didn't it didn't bother Jerry that they were bad. It
(06:04):
bothered Jerry that the fact that they might have been
so bad that no one would be talking about on
post Thanksgiving. Well, he's fixed that part of it. He's
got the you know, made the trades, got the guy's
back healthy. Where now they're going to stay relevant. Uh,
and now you're going to you know, see this this
(06:24):
playoff push where I mean, it's all out there, as
it has been a dozen times over the last two decades.
It's all out there in front of them. They can
control their own destiny. And with some of the you know,
some of the teams you need to pass, particularly the
Eagles facing their own bit of drama. Also in that
(06:46):
Hard Knocks episode, the Eagles don't feel like the Eagles
of last year even.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You know, I've thought about this for some time. I've
I've been in the same room with Jerry Jones before,
but never in a private setting. It's always been a
press conference or when we used to cover a cover
Cowboys camp, or maybe he'd do a media session. And
this was back in the nineties, pretty much the last
time I was in the same room with him. But
I would al what I would like to do if
(07:14):
you know me, know, they always talk about could you
have dinner with somebody. There'd be several people that I'd
want to have dinner with, but he would be one.
Because the way you get rich is to take chances.
If you're a conservative of your whole life, and you're
and you don't invest in things that are that are
not just super that are not that are conservative. Unless
(07:35):
you're really really patient and really don't want anything and
don't have any materialistic bone in your body, you're probably
not going to get to a place of nirvana where
you don't worry about anything. But I don't get the
fact that you gamble on everything every day of your life.
And it's the gambling rush. It's the the art of
the sale. It's chasing the sale, it's chasing the player.
(07:58):
It's knowing that it's costing you much to not sign
CD or DAK or in the future George Pickens until
the last minute. But you're you're rolling, You're rolling the
dice and you're hitting seven every time, and occasionally you
go snake eyes and you lose all your money, but
you don't care because you're gonna do it again the
next day. That's what We're gonna borrow it from somebody
else to get back to where you were.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And that's the most infuriating part of the Jerry experience
post you know, post Jimmy really is.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Can you just be a little conservative once in a while? No,
because it wouldn't be him.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And the overall value of that franchise just continues, not
only to.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's like the national debt. There's a ticker at the
end of it that every day it goes up a
couple of innings.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And what does it matter to Jerry? All he sees
is he's it's not only does he have the most
valuable franchise in the world. The gap between him and
number two just continues to grow year after year.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, it's and there's other people like Jerry that are
that way. But they're always in hustle mode and they
have been since they were probably three, and they stole
little Johnny's paper router something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, I would suggest, though, it's not all risk, high
risk for Jerry because right now I guarantee you Napi
Yeer's contract that James Madison is within a million dollars
of what shot he's being paid. Right Well, that's the
doubt one.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But see, that's the thing is that's conservative. Is Jerry's
not paying coaches. No, he never really has. You want
to be the coach of the Cowboys, go sell a
car dealership and get it, get your car and get
an endorsement. That's your extra money. He doesn't think he
has to pay coaches. And if he were the athletic
director at a university, he would not pay Lane Kiffin
(09:39):
ninety one million dollars. That's why Lane Kiffin's not coaching
the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Lane Kiffin's going to make more than one year than
the extent of whatever this current.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Deal, Shoddy is exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, if it's a four year deal, I guarantee you
Lane Kiffin makes more in one year than Shoddy Will.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, here's something else we're going to talk about in
a little bit when we get into the college stuff.
In the five o'clock cour Lane Kiffin made a comment
the other day he said, I have no idea what
my contract is, and people are rolling their eyes. I
absolutely believe him. I don't think he knows, and I'll
talk about that coming up in a little bit. All right,
Tiger's event that is going on, he's not playing the
Hero World Challenge that's in the Bahamas. Yannis may be traded,
(10:19):
Chris Paul is trying to figure out what house he's
going to live in, and more college football stuff to
get to as well. All that coming up four forty
five on the Ticket,
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