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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Cowboys are going to take on the Vikings Sunday
Night Football and a big game for the Cowboys. I
think the Vikings pretty much mailed in the season. They're
not going to make the playoffs. But this is a
game where the Vikings can certainly play the role of spoilers. Meanwhile,
the Cowboys need to keep pace in case Philadelphia keeps losing,
they'll have a chance to secure that division.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Crown I said this in the first hour.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The Cowboys over the years have for a large part
gotten over on the Vikings. They go back to December
of nineteen seventy five, so we're coming up on the
fifty year anniversary of the Hail Mary from Roger Staubach
to Drew Pearson to win a playoff game. If we
go back to I think it was nineteen eighty three,
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Danny White hands the ball to Tony Dorset and he
goes ninety nine for a touchdown. I didn't realize this
until I saw a YouTube video of it. Cowboys only
had ten players on the field on that play, and
they still went ninety night because Ron Springs left the
huddle and went to the bench, which you could no
longer do because it would have been leaving the field
after you were in the huddle. And I believe if
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you only have ten guys on the field, that's just
as much of a penalty as if you have twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But they got away with it.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And uh and and they won the They won that play.
Remember the old Cowboys, they when they would go to
the offensive line, they'd all stand up and then get
back in their stance that little did you ever? Did
anybody ever explain to you why they did that? Was
that just something that Tom Landry created?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think it was just it was a Landry deal
to get everyone on the same page, to like as
like a reset, We're all on the same page all
in unison.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Because you can go down and then everybody did it
and then you go set, and everybody's sick. If you
do it on set, then you fall start. But it
was it was unique. And I've seen some teams like
do it a player too, to pay homage to the
Cowboys and to Tom Landry, But nobody does it all
all the time anymore. But anyway to our set's ninety
nine yard run and in the herschel Walker trade where
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they traded for five players, but the Cowboys put in
the deal. If we cut the players, we get five
first round draft picks, And there were some pretty good
players that came out of those five first round draft
picks that led to them getting to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
What's the difference between.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The between the Vikings now and the Vikings last year
when they went fourteen and three. The quarterback Sam Darnold
was great last year, and they've had a revolving Dori
at quarterback this.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Year outside of a few additional bad injury luck this
year that they didn't have last year. Yeah, it's really
easy to look at the roster and say there's one
main guy missing here. And it's also just so happens
to be the guy that plays the most important position
in arguably all of sports except maybe goaliean hockey.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think the quarterback is even more important. I would agree,
because if the defense doesn't get stopped the putt before
it gets it's the goalie. The goalie is going to
be out on an island by himself all day long.
Where the quarterback has the ball literal in his hands
on every play, Yeah, and has to make a decision
on every play and has to read the defense. And
that's why they're the highest paid, and we're in an
era now where you just that's me. That's the Steelers problem.
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I think Aaron Rodgers is great at times, but he's
not great all the time. And the teams that win
fifteen sixteen games or the guys that are at quarterback
that make great plays all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I think the Sam Darnald leaving the Vikings discussion is
a great reminder to a lot of the people that
are tired of watching Dak play quarterback for the Cowboys.
I mean, I would say Dak is always, his whole
career been a better quarterback than Sam Darnold. But right now,
there are Minnesota Vikings fans, probably the majority of them,
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I would say, that are thinking, how in the hell
did we let this guy walk out of our organization?
For yes, a former first round pick, but a completely
un proven, basically rookie quarterback because he missed his whole
first year in the league because of injury.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I just I it does.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I'll say this about Dak.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I think there are thirty teams and thirty one teams
in the NFL. All right, maybe not that many because
there's some that have quarterbacks. But I'll say there's twenty
five teams in the NFL that would love for the
Cowboys to release him, and it would take two seconds
for them to have him one on their team. The
problem the Cowboys have had the last few years, including
the blowout loss to Green Bay a couple of years
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ago in the first round. Yeah, Dak's to blame for
some of it, but that is a product of the
entire organization's failures for thirty years. It's not just Dak
Prescott that looks great in the regular season and then
you know, lays an egg in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It's the whole team does that.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The defense sucks in the playoffs, the coaching sucks in
the playoffs, the play calling isn't very good in the playoffs,
and then we blame it all on Dak and or
we blame it on Mike mcca arth, or we blame
it on Jason Garrett. But it's a collective thing, from
Jerry to the ball boy. Somebody's not doing their job
in the playoffs that they do on a pretty regular
basis in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And I think that's exactly why Minnesota probably find you
made the choice to move on from Donald and turn
to McCarthy because you know, last year in the playoffs,
Sam Darnold was doing what he had done his whole career,
hold onto the ball too long. He was sacked eight
nine dollars.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Leading tied for the division lead in the West and
Minnesota is not exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And that's where I say again, careful what you wish for,
because Sam Darnold is nowhere close to the quarterback that
Dak is. And he's showing again regular season results. I
understand postseasons different, but he's showing you just what it
can look like when you don't even have a fringe
top ten quarterback on the Rocks.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So JJ McCarthy when he was drafted two years, two
drafts ago, I was he was up.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I think the fourth pick.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I think in the Drake May was our Jade Daniels
and Drake May were one and two, and then I
think it was McCarthy and then Pennis and then and
then Nicks.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Right, he slid. Pennis actually went before McCarthy. Okay, McCarthy
slid all the way to ten. I believe, Yeah, Pennis.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Went eight eight because that was Atlanta surprised us all with.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
That pick right after signing Kirk cous.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So when minutes when Michigan won the National championship. JJ
McCarthy was never asked to win games for Michigan. It
was we have the greatest defense you've ever seen. We've
got a great running game and a great offensive line,
and occasionally, on third and six we needed to complete
a twelve yard pass. And if you go back and
look at that year they won the National Championship, I
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and I didn't watch every Michigan game. I'm sure against
you know, the Sisters of the Poor, he was great,
But in most games what I saw from them was
conservative offense. Don't screw it up, don't turn it over,
don't throw it in to tight windows, don't throw it
into tight coverage. And I if you look at the
elite quarterbacks of the NFL, Joe Burrow, Alan Mahomes, Jackson,
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take your pick who else you want to put in
there this year, Stafford, they're going to get picked off
every now and then because they're going to throw it
into tight coverage. They're going to make sure that if
you're going to make a play, I got to see
if I can thread the needle in there. You've heard
my fishing story before. The fish aren't out in the
middle of the lake. They're undercover. You're going to lose
the lure every now and then, But if you want
to catch the fish, you better throw it into cover
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and take the chance that your lure is not coming back.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That's the only way you're catching the fish. And to me, J. J.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
McCarthy never makes heroic plays as a quarterback. He may
be really good at reading a defense. I'm not a
quarterback guru enough to understand that he may be really
good at getting you from one play to the next play.
And he may be really good at turning and handing
it off to the running back or doing so in
zone read from the shotgun, but throwing it into a
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double team and making sure that Justin Jefferson is the
only body on the field that can catch it, I'm
not so sure that's him, And if I'm the Vikings,
I'm not going to give him a.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Lot of leeway.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Because if there's a quarterback out there that I can
get or I can draft that I think has the
arm and the athletic skills to be what Darnold was
or what other quarterbacks are in this league, that's Minnesota's future.
It may not be JJ McCarthy. He may be a
career backup well.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And the way that you know, the top first round
picks now in the draft aren't massive financial investments like
they used to be.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I mean Sam Bradford the last guy that got.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Still in his first check exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I mean he was like sixty something million. You mentioned Justin.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Jeffers, which is a little lesson he got to owe
you just kidding, just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He took a pay cut to go to Saint Louis
the uh you mentioned Justin Jefferson. This is how bad
it's been in Minnesota this year. I heard this stat
earlier today. Brandon Aubrey Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey has more
Fantasy points this season than Justin Jefferson does.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I'm Justin Jefferson. I'm going to management, go guys. JJ
is the greatest guy in the world, love him, but
he's not the guy we need. We got to get
a quarterback. Yeah, we got to figure something that you
don't go from fourteen wins to what they.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Have four or five right now?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I think four?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, So you don't have a ten game disparity,
and I don't care how injured you are you could
at least win eight. The quarterback is the problem with Minnesota,
and I think with Dallas's renaissance on defense with most
of its players coming back that they wanted at the
beginning of the year, the Cowboy defense is going to
be able to handle whatever the Minnesota offense has. And
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the kicker for the Cowboys has more fantasy points. And
the best wide receiver in the game tells me the
best wide receiver in the game isn't being targeted properly.
He may be getting targets, but he's not getting targeted properly.
And if I were Jefferson, I would have a major
issue with that. And I can't publicly throw your quarterback
under the bus, but you can let it be known
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with your offensive coordinator. Hey, we've got to do better
than this. I can't catch a pass that I can't
get to.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, there are ways you can defend him publicly, but
behind the scenes, be talking like, guy, this really cannot
be our plan for the next five years, because those
are those are the five years of my athletic prime
and we're not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And you could.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
See pretty early in their careers how good Joe Burrow
was how good Mahomes was, the same with Allen, the
same with Lamar Jackson and Daniel or Stafford lived in
purgatory and the bad Detroit teams that he had, and
he was still great when he had Megatron to throw
it to because he just had to get it in
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the vicinity and he's such a good quarterback and such
accurate with the passing that as soon as he went
to La all of a sudden he won. Because he
had great wide receivers in the years before that and
after Megatron.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So the wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Are going to are gonna be great for you, but
you better have a guy that can get it to
them and knows how to get it to them. And
I think Aaron Rodgers, if he would have come to
Pittsburgh five six years ago, Pittsburgh wouldn't be worried about
only having one playoff win since you know, twenty sixteen.
But Aaron Rodgers at forty something years old, doesn't direct
that offense the way that you need it to. The
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Steelers are another team, although they're winning with smoking mirrors
every week and a great game plan from Mike Tomlin.
But when you look at this Minnesota matchup, it's all
about McCarthy, and I'm not sold that he's the quarterback
for the future in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, I mean, complete agreement with you.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But at the same time, so Minnesota is actually five
and eight, they have five wins.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They beat I thought that was fine because they beat
Washington this weekend exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, Cowboys six, six and one. So we're talking about
this game as if one of these teams is clearly
obviously better than the other. Even Vegas says this is
a six point Cowboys advantage, six point favorites for the Cowboys,
it is at home, it is a primetime game. But
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everything we just said, this Minnesota Vikings team is still
a lot of the same guys that won fourteen games
last year. So the idea that this is going to
be an easy game for doubt. There's no easy game
for Dallas.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well, they don't make it easy on themselves. Even when
it should be easy, they figure out a way to
make it more difficult than it should be.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And I have a feeling this is going to be
one of those games that we're going to look back
on and say that was way more difficult than it
should have been, or worst case scenario, there's the end
of our playoff hopes because we didn't take a five
to eight Minnesota Vikings team as serious as we should have.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, they have to play the Chargers next week, but
they get them at home. They have to go to
the Commanders, who are terrible right now, have to go
to the Giants who aren't very good. This is an
opportunity for them to win ten games.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And if you are going to be the playoff team
that you think you should be and potentially knock out
Philadelphia for that crown, you know, if you go ten,
six and one, then the Eagles have to The Eagles
would only be able to win lose one more game
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out of their final four, and the Eagles have left.
They're going to beat the Raiders this weekend, and they're
probably going to beat the Commanders, but they they they
play the Bills in three weeks and the Commanders again
at the end of the year. They're probably going to
go three and one. And then on that one tid
of Green Bays. What's going to come back to haunt
you a little bit? All right, let's talk about Notre
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Dame and the saga that continues in South Bend. That's
coming up next. It's the Andy Average Show and it's
five fourteen on the ticket.