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Speaker 1 (00:09):
All right, you have to tell me.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You just had it said as we were coming back
from break, there's Tiger news somewhat.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Tiger Woods is his son. Charlie, I believe, won a
playoff today for what let's see it is US junior's amateur.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
He YadA, YadA, YadA fell into.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
He fell into a three way playoff for the final
spot of the Eagle Trace Golf Club. He shot seventy
one and Charlie.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Won the playoff. So good for Charlie, Good for Charlie.
There you go. Let's annoint him now.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
He's gonna win eighty three tournaments and sixteen majors.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You never know. This could be this. I will bet
against that right now.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Everybody has to start somewhere my futures pick.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I will not be alive by the time he gets
to seventy, I would not think, because that's if he
makes it to seventy and he's fifteen, I'll be one
hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Hey, you told me yesterday that what was it, your
grandmother or uncle or aunt lived to be one hundred
and one.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, there's longevity in the family. You never know.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But they she consumed far less bad food than.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I did, you never know, And I saw this story
on the internets, Andy, And if it's on the internets,
it has to be.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Of course it's true. It's always true. They never lie.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It was a it was a golfing page that said,
for every four hours of golf that you play, you
are extending your life by four and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So you see, Well, I played probably ten thousand rounds
in my life, so that's forty thousand minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
How many hours is that?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
This is that too high level math for he's too
high level math man, that's at least a couple of
days there, I'd think, So maybe I have extended it,
although I don't know if if the person that wrote
that realizes that there's just as much frustration on.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The golf course there is anywhere else. Yeah, so it
kind of evens out. Yeah, all right, let's talk in
NBA finals.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
There are those who think that with Halliburton not playing
very much, or playing injured, or just playing at all,
in the state that he's in, that the Pacers don't
have a chance. I would expect, if the Pacers are
going to have a chance to win this game, that
they have a monster first quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ten point lead.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
After the first quarter, maybe seven point lead, maybe more.
I would expect that Siakam's gonna have to take over
the game down low. And yeah, the guy that I
I'm starting to come around on that's a little bit spare.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
He's not a spare. But I never called him a spare.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm I'm pretty sure you did. I'm pretty sure we
have that on we have that on tape. We probably do,
but I could go back. I uh, I recant that statement.
If that's the case. He's a he's a pretty good player.
But it's and it's gonna be Nev Hard and Nie
Smith and other guys. They're gonna have to come out
there and just play the games of their life. And
we from time to time we see this happen. And
(03:02):
if I'm Mark Dagnall, I've got to make.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Sure that this young basketball team understands because they haven't
been in this situation ever before. You know, Tiger always,
we talked about him. Tiger always says, when I was
up by two, I wanted to put my foot in
their throat and get it to four, six or eight.
And you've got Indiana on the ropes, and just because
they have an ailing player who may or may not
(03:25):
give you his full attention in minutes because of his injury.
Does it mean that the other guys are bad NBA players.
They're capable of having a big time game, and if
they do have a big time game, they're capable of
beating you when you should win this game. So the
key for Oklahoma City is to weather the first quarter
storm and then to wear down Indiana like they have
(03:45):
pretty much in most of their wins. And I don't
see any panic from Shay and I don't see any
panic from Jalen Williams. I think that the other players
all have roles on the team. I think Caruso enjoys
the moment. And I think this is one of the
things that separates whether you're twenty four or thirty four
as far as experience is concerned. In the NBA, it's
(04:08):
do you really enjoy the pressure that comes with championship moments?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And a lot of people people get sick at their
stomach when they know that a championship is on the line,
a game is in the line on the line, and
they don't want the basketball in their hand, They don't
want to take the last shot. They don't want the
responsibility of, oh my god, we're going to win this
game and I'm gonna have to do forty five interviews afterwards.
It's it's all about are you up to it mentally
(04:38):
from a mindset going into a game like this, and
the Thunder have to understand that everybody on Indiana's team
is going to do five or ten percent more to
make up for whatever Halliburton can't give them, and if
they can weather that, then I think they have a
fourth quarter win. I don't expect this to be a
twenty point blowout. I kind of the way I look
(05:00):
at this game is is it's close in the first quarter,
it's a little a little bit of separation at halftime.
The Thunder kind of methodically take the lead in the
in the third quarter, and they may end up winning
by twelve or thirteen or fifteen points, but it's gonna
be a struggle until the last three or four minutes
of the game until Indiana figures out. Kind of liking
(05:21):
games game five, we got nothing left to beat this team,
and if Oklahoma City can play with a sense of
urgency for that entire game, then they should win. But
if they can't don't count out that the Pacers can't
still win this game even with an alien Haliburton.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I am on the complete opposite.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I feel like it is going to get excuse me,
ugly in a hurry. In this first quarter, I'm seeing something.
I'm thinking something along the lines of the what was
it game five for the Oklahoma City Thunder against the Timberwolves.
Were that first quarter it was twenty six to nine
(06:00):
something like that happening to where the first five minutes
of this game, it's going to be twenty two to
six something like that, and the Pacers are just not
going to be able to catch up or have at
least for the most part. They're playing at home, so
they're gonna have the fan energy behind them. But if
(06:22):
you're Oklahoma City, like you just mentioned, the tiger mentality,
the first five minutes, let's determine and let's determine this
game in the first five or six minutes. Guys, let's
don't even give them a chance of.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think I think a veteran team would be would
easily be able to do that more so than a
young team. And I'm not taking anything away from Shay
and especially Jaylen Williams those two as far as their
mental approach going into this game. But they have to
play above their age if they're going to do this,
And that's just just kind of a history of sports guys.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
That are young.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know, in the back of your mind, you're on, Okay,
how badly hurt is Haliburton. That crowd is going to
be one thousand percent on the PACER's side. They're going
to try everything they can to be the true sixth
man tonight. And anything Oklahoma City does, whether it's a turnover,
it's a foul, it's a discussion with the referees, all
(07:18):
of those things are going to be ways that the
crowd can get on you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
To kind of slow down your momentum.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And that's why we have home field advantage and home
court advantage in sports, is because those opportunities for that
crowd to be an impact or there. And the crowd's
going to be one hundred percent necessary for the Pacers
to have a chance and kind of get some separation
in that first quarter.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I just don't know that they can sustain it.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And Mark Dagnol, it's got to preach his defense, which
has been the best in the league, and he has
to make sure that they weather any of those storms
early or late.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
They at least for Indiana's perspective of they have a
team that is at least built to where if one
player goes down, there's enough for them to distribute.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know, it's not just solely on well.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I mean, I mean Tyreees didn't make any any baskets
he got. I think he had six points of the
free throw line in game six for Game five, but
the Pacers were still in the game until seven six
minutes to go in the game. And it's going to
take that from all of those other guys. But if
we see early on that Halliburton is ineffective, that kind
(08:22):
of helps the thunder go. Okay, we've got this if
we just pay attention to what we're doing, because he's
not going to be the guy that beats us. He's
not cable beating us if he's hurt, and we just
got to make sure the others don't have big time games.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I got into a ton of thoughts about the shad
Door Sanders thing. I'll tell you a story from years
and years ago that any what is it statute limitations
would be waived by now. But I got some thoughts
on the Shador Sanders thing, and
All right, you have to tell me.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You just had it said as we were coming back
from break, there's Tiger news somewhat.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Tiger Woods is his son. Charlie, I believe, won a
playoff today for what let's see it is US junior's amateur.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
He YadA, YadA, YadA fell into.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
He fell into a three way playoff for the final
spot of the Eagle Trace Golf Club. He shot seventy
one and Charlie.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Won the playoff. So good for Charlie, Good for Charlie.
There you go. Let's annoint him now.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
He's gonna win eighty three tournaments and sixteen majors.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You never know. This could be this. I will bet
against that right now.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Everybody has to start somewhere my futures pick.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I will not be alive by the time he gets
to seventy, I would not think, because that's if he
makes it to seventy and he's fifteen, I'll be one
hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Hey, you told me yesterday that what was it, your
grandmother or uncle or aunt lived to be one hundred
and one.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah, there's longevity in the family. You never know.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But they she consumed far less bad food than.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I did, you never know, And I saw this story
on the internets, Andy, And if it's on the internets,
it has to be.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Of course it's true. It's always true. They never lie.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It was a it was a golfing page that said,
for every four hours of golf that you play, you
are extending your life by four and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So you see, Well, I played probably ten thousand rounds
in my life, so that's forty thousand minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
How many hours is that?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
This is that too high level math for he's too
high level math man, that's at least a couple of
days there, I'd think, So maybe I have extended it,
although I don't know if if the person that wrote
that realizes that there's just as much frustration on.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The golf course there is anywhere else. Yeah, so it
kind of evens out. Yeah, all right, let's talk in
NBA finals.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
There are those who think that with Halliburton not playing
very much, or playing injured, or just playing at all,
in the state that he's in, that the Pacers don't
have a chance. I would expect, if the Pacers are
going to have a chance to win this game, that
they have a monster first quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ten point lead.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
After the first quarter, maybe seven point lead, maybe more.
I would expect that Siakam's gonna have to take over
the game down low. And yeah, the guy that I
I'm starting to come around on that's a little bit spare.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
He's not a spare. But I never called him a spare.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm I'm pretty sure you did. I'm pretty sure we
have that on we have that on tape. We probably do,
but I could go back. I uh, I recant that statement.
If that's the case. He's a he's a pretty good player.
But it's and it's gonna be Nev Hard and Nie
Smith and other guys. They're gonna have to come out
there and just play the games of their life. And
we from time to time we see this happen. And
(03:02):
if I'm Mark Dagnall, I've got to make.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Sure that this young basketball team understands because they haven't
been in this situation ever before. You know, Tiger always,
we talked about him. Tiger always says, when I was
up by two, I wanted to put my foot in
their throat and get it to four, six or eight.
And you've got Indiana on the ropes, and just because
they have an ailing player who may or may not
(03:25):
give you his full attention in minutes because of his injury.
Does it mean that the other guys are bad NBA players.
They're capable of having a big time game, and if
they do have a big time game, they're capable of
beating you when you should win this game. So the
key for Oklahoma City is to weather the first quarter
storm and then to wear down Indiana like they have
(03:45):
pretty much in most of their wins. And I don't
see any panic from Shay and I don't see any
panic from Jalen Williams. I think that the other players
all have roles on the team. I think Caruso enjoys
the moment. And I think this is one of the
things that separates whether you're twenty four or thirty four
as far as experience is concerned. In the NBA, it's
(04:08):
do you really enjoy the pressure that comes with championship moments?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And a lot of people people get sick at their
stomach when they know that a championship is on the line,
a game is in the line on the line, and
they don't want the basketball in their hand, They don't
want to take the last shot. They don't want the
responsibility of, oh my god, we're going to win this
game and I'm gonna have to do forty five interviews afterwards.
It's it's all about are you up to it mentally
(04:38):
from a mindset going into a game like this, and
the Thunder have to understand that everybody on Indiana's team
is going to do five or ten percent more to
make up for whatever Halliburton can't give them, and if
they can weather that, then I think they have a
fourth quarter win. I don't expect this to be a
twenty point blowout. I kind of the way I look
(05:00):
at this game is is it's close in the first quarter,
it's a little a little bit of separation at halftime.
The Thunder kind of methodically take the lead in the
in the third quarter, and they may end up winning
by twelve or thirteen or fifteen points, but it's gonna
be a struggle until the last three or four minutes
of the game until Indiana figures out. Kind of liking
(05:21):
games game five, we got nothing left to beat this team,
and if Oklahoma City can play with a sense of
urgency for that entire game, then they should win. But
if they can't don't count out that the Pacers can't
still win this game even with an alien Haliburton.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I am on the complete opposite.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I feel like it is going to get excuse me,
ugly in a hurry. In this first quarter, I'm seeing something.
I'm thinking something along the lines of the what was
it game five for the Oklahoma City Thunder against the Timberwolves.
Were that first quarter it was twenty six to nine
(06:00):
something like that happening to where the first five minutes
of this game, it's going to be twenty two to
six something like that, and the Pacers are just not
going to be able to catch up or have at
least for the most part. They're playing at home, so
they're gonna have the fan energy behind them. But if
(06:22):
you're Oklahoma City, like you just mentioned, the tiger mentality,
the first five minutes, let's determine and let's determine this
game in the first five or six minutes. Guys, let's
don't even give them a chance of.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think I think a veteran team would be would
easily be able to do that more so than a
young team. And I'm not taking anything away from Shay
and especially Jaylen Williams those two as far as their
mental approach going into this game. But they have to
play above their age if they're going to do this,
And that's just just kind of a history of sports guys.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
That are young.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know, in the back of your mind, you're on, Okay,
how badly hurt is Haliburton. That crowd is going to
be one thousand percent on the PACER's side. They're going
to try everything they can to be the true sixth
man tonight. And anything Oklahoma City does, whether it's a turnover,
it's a foul, it's a discussion with the referees, all
(07:18):
of those things are going to be ways that the
crowd can get on you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
To kind of slow down your momentum.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And that's why we have home field advantage and home
court advantage in sports, is because those opportunities for that
crowd to be an impact or there. And the crowd's
going to be one hundred percent necessary for the Pacers
to have a chance and kind of get some separation
in that first quarter.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I just don't know that they can sustain it.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And Mark Dagnol, it's got to preach his defense, which
has been the best in the league, and he has
to make sure that they weather any of those storms
early or late.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
They at least for Indiana's perspective of they have a
team that is at least built to where if one
player goes down, there's enough for them to distribute.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know, it's not just solely on well.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I mean, I mean Tyreees didn't make any any baskets
he got. I think he had six points of the
free throw line in game six for Game five, but
the Pacers were still in the game until seven six
minutes to go in the game. And it's going to
take that from all of those other guys. But if
we see early on that Halliburton is ineffective, that kind
(08:22):
of helps the thunder go. Okay, we've got this if
we just pay attention to what we're doing, because he's
not going to be the guy that beats us. He's
not cable beating us if he's hurt, and we just
got to make sure the others don't have big time games.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I got into a ton of thoughts about the shad
Door Sanders thing. I'll tell you a story from years
and years ago that any what is it statute limitations
would be waived by now. But I got some thoughts
on the Shador Sanders thing, and
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