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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Five o'clock hour commences our number two of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you so much for being a part of it.
We'll talk more Spurs coming up in about an hour.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
So we've got Dallas Cowboy training camp stuff to talk about.
Talk about coming up with their training camp opening in
twelve days. We'll give you a rundown of the Scotti
chopin at Michael's favorite golf course, the Renaissance, and we'll
talk about some gambling in Vegas and some NBA news
as well.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Mike Gundy was.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
At media day up in Frisco, Big twelve Media Days,
and he says college athletes should be employees. And I
think a lot of people have a similar sentiment. Let's
just put them on the payroll and let's just make
them employees. Well, you can't do that the amount of
money that it would require to make everybody an employee
(00:52):
with bankrupt most colleges around the country. Yeah, Texas could
probably do it, Georgia could probably do it, Florida, other
schools probably could.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
A and M.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But for the most part, most schools would have to
shutter the rest of their athletic departments. It would basically
be a football factory and maybe a few teams would
be able to keep men's and women's basketball, and that
would be it all the golf, the baseball, the softball,
all that. And that's not me saying this. These are
the experts that run athletic departments because that's been looked into.
(01:23):
And once again, it goes back to the age old
question that if you're going to allow for unrestricted free
agency and unrestricted money in terms of what you can
pay the athletes, you really are going to have the
wild wild West until you can create rules. And that's
where the anti trust exemption comes in. And I am
(01:46):
a I don't have an issue with Mike Gundy. I
think he's fine, and I think he's got a good idea.
This goes back to where football coaches are very rarely
business people. They don't have time to be business people.
That's why they have agents, that's why they have financial plan.
Football coaches spend a lot of time getting ready for
the game, and unfortunately many of them have had to
spend way too much time doing the ancillary things like
(02:09):
worrying about nil and that's why so many of them
have opted to create jobs for general managers and player
personnel directors and things of that nature, so they can
get back to the focus of just coaching. And not
that I've ever tell anybody to go back and do
what you're good at, but kind of in this case,
it's really important. I think from a Mike Gundy standpoint, Yeah,
(02:31):
it sounds great, but it won't work.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's just not feasible.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So we're not going to see a lot of we're
not going to see athletes become employees for those reasons.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I mean, what if they make it to where
it's just specifically tied to the football program.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, then you would have to have a completely set
of a different set of rules for every other sport.
And I would think at some point, I don't know
how Title nine works into it, obviously when it's revenue
share or when it's about funding, but many of these
schools we have just I think there's a bigger problem
(03:08):
with basketball than there is with football. And I've said
this many times before. If I go to whether it's
UTSA or Texas or Auburn or Alabama or wherever, and
I put one hundred guys in the room and I
ask them, legitimately speaking, how many of you think you
can play in the NFL, and there probably would be
in the power for teams, there'd probably be twenty guys
(03:30):
that think that they've got a shot to play in
the NFL, and they would probably be. Of those twenty,
there would probably be actually three or four that would
make it. And I think most college football players realize,
I'm good enough to play at this level, but not
only am I not good enough to play at the
NFL level, I really don't want to. And I think
(03:51):
college athletes often gets a bad rap because, oh, it's
just a football factory. You're just going there, you don't
really study. The overwhelming majority of student athletes get degree
and try hard to get the training necessary for whatever
profession that they're going to go into. And because they're
on scholarship, they leave with no debts, so they've got
a head start on everybody else. They didn't have to
(04:13):
pay student loans back and they don't have to worry
about the debt, so they know that they take that advantage.
I'll bet you if I looked at Utsa's roster, and
I guess it's around I guess eighty five scholarships and
fifteen walk ons or so. Of those hundred players, four
of them probably think they have a legit or four
of them probably have a legit shot of going to
the NFL, and there may be ten more that think
(04:34):
they can go.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And so you got fourteen guys.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
The other eighty six know, hey, I better get a job,
I better take advantage of getting this degree. It's basketball
where the delusion takes place. And I've seen this so
and it's not just recently. It's going back thirty years
ago when I was broadcasting games at Saint Mary's and
those plays, a lot of those players thought, man, you know,
maybe I can play in the NBA. And fortunately they
(04:58):
all got a lot of them got to and some
of them have really good jobs and are into coaching
and things like that. But until until the until there's
a league that won't pay them, they think they can
still make that shot to get to the to the show.
And so I think basketball is that that's why we're
seeing something. We see way more movement percentage wise with
(05:22):
basketball teams because they're always searching for the next opportunity
to showcase themselves, so they get seen by NBA scouts
and you know, I uh, I just it's it's sad
because you look at these guys, and you go, you've
got no chance to play in the NBA. Now, you
may have a chance to play in Europe or Australia
or the Far East, but you're not playing in the NBA,
(05:44):
not this time, not anytime soon unless something really where
it happens, or you just get really really lucky. Uh
and and Barkley talks about.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And and so I think that and we don't want
the other sports to go away. I think an athletic
program has to have more than just a football and
a basketball and a women's basketball team. You got to
have the baseball team, you got to have softball, you
got to have golf and track and all these things.
It's what creates opportunities and marketing opportunities for your school,
(06:15):
for the rank and file of your student body. And
so I think we're going to see I don't think
ever going to see the employee model. The model that
seems to work is to sign players to contracts once
you put rules in place that will make those contracts valid.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, but even with those contracts in place, I mean
we're seeing that they don't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, right now, they don't because there's no rules
to back them up. Yeah, But if I sign you
to a contract and say, you know, eighteen year old
Michael Bartlett's going to play four years at Texas and
we got your penciled in as one of our wide receivers,
and here's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for four
years or five hundred thousand four years, but there's a
(07:02):
buyout of one hundred thousand dollars if you leave before
the four years are up, and you can't take that
to court and the judge's going to go anti trust
exemption case dismissed. And once you get to that stage,
then players will be just like coaches. They can walk
in and say I want to leave, and the school
that's taken me is going to give you one hundred
(07:22):
thousand the checks and the mail or the electronic fund
transfers taking place. But if I if I sign you
to that contract right now and you go in and
say hey, I'm leaving, and oh, by the way, we're
going to sue you if you try to go after
the buyout money, Well, their lawyer's working for free because
they're going to take forty percent of whatever they get,
(07:42):
and your your lawyer is going to cost you one
thousand dollars an hour for a.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Case they likely can't win. And and so.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
There's just until you get that anti trust exemption. And
this is good and Mike Gundy's right, they should be
held to some accountability employees is not one of them,
but almost everybody. Jay billis is a lawyer. He understands it.
Are kind of understands that we just need buyouts for
players that would fix the problem. But the problem can't
(08:12):
be solved until there's anti trust exemption.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, you know, because we kind of brought it into
into perspective the other day with the the Texas Tech signing,
you know, Felix Ojo to that five point one million
dollar guaranteed contract for three years. But even though I
mean he's getting all that, mute, Yeah, it's guaranteed. I mean,
who's to say that he steps one foot into Lubbock
(08:38):
and decides to say, you know what, eh, I changed
my mind.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm sure they're not getting it there.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, first of all, I'm sure they're not giving him
the five point one million up front. I'm guessing he's
getting it monthly as long as he stays in school,
and good luck getting the money from somebody if you'll leave,
I'm not. I'm sure there's language in that contract that
says if you leave Texas Tech to.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Your payment stop.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
But what I'm talking about is, if I'm Texas Tech,
I want to pay him for four years. He is
a really good football player. He's gonna help my team win.
And if he's gonna leave and go to the competitor
or go to a bigger conference, that's fine, but I
want him to pay me back some of the money
I've invested in him, because this is an investment for
four years, it's not an investment for one.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And if he happens to get really.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Lucky and help my team win a championship in year one,
well I'm going to be greedy in while year's two, three,
and four to be similarly successful. It's the same thing
that happens to football coaches. Do you give a football
coach a contract and he has a decent year, and
you go, well, I don't want to I don't want
him to leave. Let's give him an extension for more
money in a raise, and so you give him the extension,
(09:47):
you give him the raise, and then Georgia calls, or
Auburn calls and says, well, we're not going to pay
you two million that you're getting it at mid major university.
We're going to pay you ten million a year. Okay,
go take your ten million, but you owe me six
before you can go, because that's the buyout. And the
buyout is what prevent or three or two or whatever
(10:08):
number you want to come up with, because then that
gives me opportunities to be able to add to my
budget to pay the next coach it's going to replace you,
and maybe pay that coach at a level where he'll
stay a little bit longer. So that's the thing that
coaches have in their on their side. Where players have
a get out of jail free card, they can do
whatever they want without any ramifications. Coaches are employees of
(10:31):
the school and in order for them to get out
of their contracts, those contracts are binding, whereas the athletes
don't have binding contracts because they're not employees of the
school and there and the anti trust laws don't make
any contract they sign one hundred percent valid.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well see, yeah, that's the thing that you talk about,
is even if you sign it in a contract, because
of those anti trust laws, you can put in there. Hey,
if if you leave before you know the three years
that we're wanting you to be here, you know you're
gonna give us some of this money back, or you're
not getting it, they can go to hey anti trust laws.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So you know, I'll look at it from another standpoint.
Let's say you're an accountant at an accounting firm in San
Antonio and you decide, you know, there's an accounting firm
in Michigan that wants me to come work for them,
and they're gonna pay me a lot more.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, you have the right to leave. Now.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Some companies may have non competes and things like that
for some months that you've agreed to, but after the
non competes over and the other guy can pay you
if they want to while you're sitting on the sidelines.
But at some point you have the right to go
because in almost every state we have right to work loss.
And that's exactly what the football players looking at. I
am going to go work at Texas State or UTSA
(11:53):
or Baylor or Texas Tech. But if I'm giving a
better offer in the years that I'm here, then I
have the right to go unless you sign me to
a contract and the contract has to be a binding
one and because you have the right to leave you
And that's why all these contracts with coaches have the
buyouts in them, is because I'm making an investment in
(12:16):
in that coach and I don't want them to leave
for the better job. And if they can better themselves
that much, and the other school wants to write me
a check for the buyout, I now have leverage to
use that money for somebody, maybe even better than who
I currently have.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And that's what every coach.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Wants to do, is you know, it's and it doesn't
have to be a big buyout. But let's say you
sign a player to an nil deal and they're making
one hundred grand a year and that player, you know,
rushes for fifteen hundred yards and gets the eye of
every power for school and Mississippi says, okay, i'll take
your running back. We're not gonna pay him one hundred grand.
We're gonna pay him seven hundred and fifty. And okay,
(12:55):
that's fine. He can go, but now Mississippi owes me
some money. Whatever we determine, that buyout, it's going to be.
And that buyout may be an escalator depending on how
good you are from year to year. So that's all
coming down to whenever Congress decides that they want to
do something about it. And the biggest problem with getting
Congress to do something about it. There's five hundred and
(13:17):
thirty five congressmen, and my guess is is there's about
two hundred and seventy five of them that don't care
and know nothing about sports. They're not there to be.
They're not sports fans. Now, a lot of people are,
a lot of them are, and it's up to those
in Congress who are sports fans to explain to those
who are not. You know, we live in this myopic
world that we think everybody's a sports fan. There's almost
(13:39):
two million people in San Antonio, and my guess is
there's not more than six hundred thousand people that would
consider themselves sports fans. Even when the Spurs win a championship.
There's not two million people that care. There may be
eight hundred thousand, but there's not two million.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And so.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
The fact that and so I think every group of
people people are like that, and there are senators in
congressmen and politicians that they have no idea When the
Texas game starts or do they care when the Texas
game starts unless they're Unless they're they're on the campaign
trail there and they need to make an appearance at
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a certain time, and then their handler gives them some
bullet points to make them think that they know something
about the game. I can remember we had a when
I was in school at ou. We had a news
guy and his ambition was to be a politician. And
I don't know if he ever made it or not.
I've never seen him as the name. I don't know
if he changed his name or whatever, but his ambition
was to be in politics. And I said one day
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to him, I said, are you going to the game?
He goes, what game? I said, well, oh, he's playing
Nebraska tomorrow. Pretty big game, right, Oh you Nebraska in
the eighties, that was a pretty big game. Who's Nebraska?
What are they any good? And I'm like, there's no way,
Oh my god. Yes, he had no idea how good
they were. He knew nobody. He knew none of the
players on either a team the school. We were both
(15:01):
students in the same classes. But he had zero concept
of sports and could care less about it. And I'm like, man,
who's living under the rock me or him. You know, hey,
I didn't know, because you know, I think the world
revolves around US sports clock. He could have cared least
that there was even a game. Oh there's going to
be traffic here tomorrow. I guess I'll stay home. That
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was basically the only thing that was concerning. But yeah,
there's a lot of people that are not sports fans,
and in Congress, there's a ton of people that are
not sports fans, and to be able to get them
to actually vote on something that should be a unanimous
decision will be very difficult to put through when some
of them may not even know what they're voting on.
(15:42):
All Right, the Cowboys training camp starts in less than
two weeks. Some Cowboy discussion next, it's five point fifteen
on the ticket.
Five o'clock hour commences our number two of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you so much for being a part of it.
We'll talk more Spurs coming up in about an hour.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
So we've got Dallas Cowboy training camp stuff to talk about.
Talk about coming up with their training camp opening in
twelve days. We'll give you a rundown of the Scotti
chopin at Michael's favorite golf course, the Renaissance, and we'll
talk about some gambling in Vegas and some NBA news
as well.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Mike Gundy was.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
At media day up in Frisco, Big twelve Media Days,
and he says college athletes should be employees. And I
think a lot of people have a similar sentiment. Let's
just put them on the payroll and let's just make
them employees. Well, you can't do that the amount of
money that it would require to make everybody an employee
(00:52):
with bankrupt most colleges around the country. Yeah, Texas could
probably do it, Georgia could probably do it, Florida, other
schools probably could.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
A and M.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But for the most part, most schools would have to
shutter the rest of their athletic departments. It would basically
be a football factory and maybe a few teams would
be able to keep men's and women's basketball, and that
would be it all the golf, the baseball, the softball,
all that. And that's not me saying this. These are
the experts that run athletic departments because that's been looked into.
(01:23):
And once again, it goes back to the age old
question that if you're going to allow for unrestricted free
agency and unrestricted money in terms of what you can
pay the athletes, you really are going to have the
wild wild West until you can create rules. And that's
where the anti trust exemption comes in. And I am
(01:46):
a I don't have an issue with Mike Gundy. I
think he's fine, and I think he's got a good idea.
This goes back to where football coaches are very rarely
business people. They don't have time to be business people.
That's why they have agents, that's why they have financial plan.
Football coaches spend a lot of time getting ready for
the game, and unfortunately many of them have had to
spend way too much time doing the ancillary things like
(02:09):
worrying about nil and that's why so many of them
have opted to create jobs for general managers and player
personnel directors and things of that nature, so they can
get back to the focus of just coaching. And not
that I've ever tell anybody to go back and do
what you're good at, but kind of in this case,
it's really important. I think from a Mike Gundy standpoint, Yeah,
(02:31):
it sounds great, but it won't work.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's just not feasible.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So we're not going to see a lot of we're
not going to see athletes become employees for those reasons.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I mean, what if they make it to where
it's just specifically tied to the football program.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, then you would have to have a completely set
of a different set of rules for every other sport.
And I would think at some point, I don't know
how Title nine works into it, obviously when it's revenue
share or when it's about funding, but many of these
schools we have just I think there's a bigger problem
(03:08):
with basketball than there is with football. And I've said
this many times before. If I go to whether it's
UTSA or Texas or Auburn or Alabama or wherever, and
I put one hundred guys in the room and I
ask them, legitimately speaking, how many of you think you
can play in the NFL, and there probably would be
in the power for teams, there'd probably be twenty guys
(03:30):
that think that they've got a shot to play in
the NFL, and they would probably be. Of those twenty,
there would probably be actually three or four that would
make it. And I think most college football players realize,
I'm good enough to play at this level, but not
only am I not good enough to play at the
NFL level, I really don't want to. And I think
(03:51):
college athletes often gets a bad rap because, oh, it's
just a football factory. You're just going there, you don't
really study. The overwhelming majority of student athletes get degree
and try hard to get the training necessary for whatever
profession that they're going to go into. And because they're
on scholarship, they leave with no debts, so they've got
a head start on everybody else. They didn't have to
(04:13):
pay student loans back and they don't have to worry
about the debt, so they know that they take that advantage.
I'll bet you if I looked at Utsa's roster, and
I guess it's around I guess eighty five scholarships and
fifteen walk ons or so. Of those hundred players, four
of them probably think they have a legit or four
of them probably have a legit shot of going to
the NFL, and there may be ten more that think
(04:34):
they can go.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And so you got fourteen guys.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
The other eighty six know, hey, I better get a job,
I better take advantage of getting this degree. It's basketball
where the delusion takes place. And I've seen this so
and it's not just recently. It's going back thirty years
ago when I was broadcasting games at Saint Mary's and
those plays, a lot of those players thought, man, you know,
maybe I can play in the NBA. And fortunately they
(04:58):
all got a lot of them got to and some
of them have really good jobs and are into coaching
and things like that. But until until the until there's
a league that won't pay them, they think they can
still make that shot to get to the to the show.
And so I think basketball is that that's why we're
seeing something. We see way more movement percentage wise with
(05:22):
basketball teams because they're always searching for the next opportunity
to showcase themselves, so they get seen by NBA scouts
and you know, I uh, I just it's it's sad
because you look at these guys, and you go, you've
got no chance to play in the NBA. Now, you
may have a chance to play in Europe or Australia
or the Far East, but you're not playing in the NBA,
(05:44):
not this time, not anytime soon unless something really where
it happens, or you just get really really lucky. Uh
and and Barkley talks about.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And and so I think that and we don't want
the other sports to go away. I think an athletic
program has to have more than just a football and
a basketball and a women's basketball team. You got to
have the baseball team, you got to have softball, you
got to have golf and track and all these things.
It's what creates opportunities and marketing opportunities for your school,
(06:15):
for the rank and file of your student body. And
so I think we're going to see I don't think
ever going to see the employee model. The model that
seems to work is to sign players to contracts once
you put rules in place that will make those contracts valid.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, but even with those contracts in place, I mean
we're seeing that they don't mean anything.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, right now, they don't because there's no rules
to back them up. Yeah, But if I sign you
to a contract and say, you know, eighteen year old
Michael Bartlett's going to play four years at Texas and
we got your penciled in as one of our wide receivers,
and here's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for four
years or five hundred thousand four years, but there's a
(07:02):
buyout of one hundred thousand dollars if you leave before
the four years are up, and you can't take that
to court and the judge's going to go anti trust
exemption case dismissed. And once you get to that stage,
then players will be just like coaches. They can walk
in and say I want to leave, and the school
that's taken me is going to give you one hundred
(07:22):
thousand the checks and the mail or the electronic fund
transfers taking place. But if I if I sign you
to that contract right now and you go in and
say hey, I'm leaving, and oh, by the way, we're
going to sue you if you try to go after
the buyout money, Well, their lawyer's working for free because
they're going to take forty percent of whatever they get,
(07:42):
and your your lawyer is going to cost you one
thousand dollars an hour for a.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Case they likely can't win. And and so.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
There's just until you get that anti trust exemption. And
this is good and Mike Gundy's right, they should be
held to some accountability employees is not one of them,
but almost everybody. Jay billis is a lawyer. He understands it.
Are kind of understands that we just need buyouts for
players that would fix the problem. But the problem can't
(08:12):
be solved until there's anti trust exemption.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, you know, because we kind of brought it into
into perspective the other day with the the Texas Tech signing,
you know, Felix Ojo to that five point one million
dollar guaranteed contract for three years. But even though I
mean he's getting all that, mute, Yeah, it's guaranteed. I mean,
who's to say that he steps one foot into Lubbock
(08:38):
and decides to say, you know what, eh, I changed
my mind.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm sure they're not getting it there.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, first of all, I'm sure they're not giving him
the five point one million up front. I'm guessing he's
getting it monthly as long as he stays in school,
and good luck getting the money from somebody if you'll leave,
I'm not. I'm sure there's language in that contract that
says if you leave Texas Tech to.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Your payment stop.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
But what I'm talking about is, if I'm Texas Tech,
I want to pay him for four years. He is
a really good football player. He's gonna help my team win.
And if he's gonna leave and go to the competitor
or go to a bigger conference, that's fine, but I
want him to pay me back some of the money
I've invested in him, because this is an investment for
four years, it's not an investment for one.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And if he happens to get really.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Lucky and help my team win a championship in year one,
well I'm going to be greedy in while year's two, three,
and four to be similarly successful. It's the same thing
that happens to football coaches. Do you give a football
coach a contract and he has a decent year, and
you go, well, I don't want to I don't want
him to leave. Let's give him an extension for more
money in a raise, and so you give him the extension,
(09:47):
you give him the raise, and then Georgia calls, or
Auburn calls and says, well, we're not going to pay
you two million that you're getting it at mid major university.
We're going to pay you ten million a year. Okay,
go take your ten million, but you owe me six
before you can go, because that's the buyout. And the
buyout is what prevent or three or two or whatever
(10:08):
number you want to come up with, because then that
gives me opportunities to be able to add to my
budget to pay the next coach it's going to replace you,
and maybe pay that coach at a level where he'll
stay a little bit longer. So that's the thing that
coaches have in their on their side. Where players have
a get out of jail free card, they can do
whatever they want without any ramifications. Coaches are employees of
(10:31):
the school and in order for them to get out
of their contracts, those contracts are binding, whereas the athletes
don't have binding contracts because they're not employees of the
school and there and the anti trust laws don't make
any contract they sign one hundred percent valid.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well see, yeah, that's the thing that you talk about,
is even if you sign it in a contract, because
of those anti trust laws, you can put in there. Hey,
if if you leave before you know the three years
that we're wanting you to be here, you know you're
gonna give us some of this money back, or you're
not getting it, they can go to hey anti trust laws.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So you know, I'll look at it from another standpoint.
Let's say you're an accountant at an accounting firm in San
Antonio and you decide, you know, there's an accounting firm
in Michigan that wants me to come work for them,
and they're gonna pay me a lot more.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, you have the right to leave. Now.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Some companies may have non competes and things like that
for some months that you've agreed to, but after the
non competes over and the other guy can pay you
if they want to while you're sitting on the sidelines.
But at some point you have the right to go
because in almost every state we have right to work loss.
And that's exactly what the football players looking at. I
am going to go work at Texas State or UTSA
(11:53):
or Baylor or Texas Tech. But if I'm giving a
better offer in the years that I'm here, then I
have the right to go unless you sign me to
a contract and the contract has to be a binding
one and because you have the right to leave you
And that's why all these contracts with coaches have the
buyouts in them, is because I'm making an investment in
(12:16):
in that coach and I don't want them to leave
for the better job. And if they can better themselves
that much, and the other school wants to write me
a check for the buyout, I now have leverage to
use that money for somebody, maybe even better than who
I currently have.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And that's what every coach.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Wants to do, is you know, it's and it doesn't
have to be a big buyout. But let's say you
sign a player to an nil deal and they're making
one hundred grand a year and that player, you know,
rushes for fifteen hundred yards and gets the eye of
every power for school and Mississippi says, okay, i'll take
your running back. We're not gonna pay him one hundred grand.
We're gonna pay him seven hundred and fifty. And okay,
(12:55):
that's fine. He can go, but now Mississippi owes me
some money. Whatever we determine, that buyout, it's going to be.
And that buyout may be an escalator depending on how
good you are from year to year. So that's all
coming down to whenever Congress decides that they want to
do something about it. And the biggest problem with getting
Congress to do something about it. There's five hundred and
(13:17):
thirty five congressmen, and my guess is is there's about
two hundred and seventy five of them that don't care
and know nothing about sports. They're not there to be.
They're not sports fans. Now, a lot of people are,
a lot of them are, and it's up to those
in Congress who are sports fans to explain to those
who are not. You know, we live in this myopic
world that we think everybody's a sports fan. There's almost
(13:39):
two million people in San Antonio, and my guess is
there's not more than six hundred thousand people that would
consider themselves sports fans. Even when the Spurs win a championship.
There's not two million people that care. There may be
eight hundred thousand, but there's not two million.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And so.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
The fact that and so I think every group of
people people are like that, and there are senators in
congressmen and politicians that they have no idea When the
Texas game starts or do they care when the Texas
game starts unless they're Unless they're they're on the campaign
trail there and they need to make an appearance at
(14:17):
a certain time, and then their handler gives them some
bullet points to make them think that they know something
about the game. I can remember we had a when
I was in school at ou. We had a news
guy and his ambition was to be a politician. And
I don't know if he ever made it or not.
I've never seen him as the name. I don't know
if he changed his name or whatever, but his ambition
was to be in politics. And I said one day
(14:40):
to him, I said, are you going to the game?
He goes, what game? I said, well, oh, he's playing
Nebraska tomorrow. Pretty big game, right, Oh you Nebraska in
the eighties, that was a pretty big game. Who's Nebraska?
What are they any good? And I'm like, there's no way,
Oh my god. Yes, he had no idea how good
they were. He knew nobody. He knew none of the
players on either a team the school. We were both
(15:01):
students in the same classes. But he had zero concept
of sports and could care less about it. And I'm like, man,
who's living under the rock me or him. You know, hey,
I didn't know, because you know, I think the world
revolves around US sports clock. He could have cared least
that there was even a game. Oh there's going to
be traffic here tomorrow. I guess I'll stay home. That
(15:22):
was basically the only thing that was concerning. But yeah,
there's a lot of people that are not sports fans,
and in Congress, there's a ton of people that are
not sports fans, and to be able to get them
to actually vote on something that should be a unanimous
decision will be very difficult to put through when some
of them may not even know what they're voting on.
(15:42):
All Right, the Cowboys training camp starts in less than
two weeks. Some Cowboy discussion next, it's five point fifteen
on the ticket.
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