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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's the vogue thing that we have now in the NBA.
Used to be hamstrings, but now we have calf strains,
and because calf strains tend to lead to Achilles' injuries,
we're super cautious with those, because calf strains may take
a month and you've got to get that rehabbed and
straightened out so that you don't pop the achilles very
(00:22):
much like Tyres Saliburton did last year in the playoffs,
and many others have suffered a similar fate. That's a
full year recovery standpoint. So basically, if you heard it now,
you're not playing until this time next year. But there
is talk about his future with Milwaukee, and the Bucks
are eleven and thirteen I think as of last night,
they are a team that basically has him and a
(00:45):
bunch of guys that are way past their prime, and
it's time for Milwaukee to unload, and the only asset
they have to unload is him. And there's all kinds
of teams out there that are going to probably try
to jockey for position to get them or get him.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Milwaukee, however, needs.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Draft picks, draft capital, and salary cap dumps. They pay
Giannis around fifty four million dollars, So you have to
trade players that equal that amount of money to make
the trade work. And then the added bonus would be,
let's have a bunch of players. The teams that I
think they could use Giannis, and I don't know about
(01:22):
their draft capital. This is draft capital aside. I look
at Miami. I think he would be a good fit
there with with as long as they could keep Bam
and Hero, but I don't know that they have enough
players to equal fifty four million dollars. I think he
might be a good fit in New York, But then
are you going to gut a team that is still
considered one of the better teams in the East, and
(01:45):
you're going to have to find two or three players
at equal fifty four million, And I'm not sure how
many draft picks the next half. So the one part
about this new salary cap era that we're in and
the collective bargaining agreement that currently exists, is it's incredibly
difficult to workout trades. It often involves third and fourth teams.
And if I'm Milwaukee, I really don't care who the
(02:05):
players are as long as I dump the salary what
I want. If if and if I do get young players,
they better be young and they better not be costing
me any money. So I need five guys that make
eleven million dollars to get to him. But I want
the draft picks and I want them to be draft
picks that I can build my team very much the
way Oklahoma City and San Antonio have over the last
(02:26):
several years. And to me, that's going to be really
really difficult for Milwaukee to pull off without a lot
of intervention in a second or third team being involved.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, I mean, if they want it's one of those
weird situations where they would be better off not trying
to send Giannis to one of his destined or you know,
preferred destiny.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
This is where you're going. You don't have a no
trade clause to deal with it exactly. But then does
he resign with that team so that team may not
want him.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
That reason exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So you're in this weird battle for leverage and any
negotiations because you know, obviously the teams that come to mind,
you know, Miami, New York, you know, any potential Warriors
or Lakers, someone like that getting in getting involved. All
of those teams you're are now are good currently and
(03:17):
now you're trading Yannis there, so all the future picks
have very little value. So you feel like you have
to have some third team, you know, a team like
the like the Brooklyn Nets who have a absolute massive
amount of future picks, the Jazz, or even the Spurs,
whether they without getting Yannis, they're a team that would
(03:41):
potentially be at least try to rope into a three
or four team deal because if Milwaukee is chasing future
draft picks, they're not going to get it directly from
the team they send him to.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That wouldn't be their, you know, best package in return.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I'm looking at Golden State and Kaminga can't be traded
until a certain amount of time after signing the new deal.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I think it's what mid December. I think we're coming
up on it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So that's coming up. He makes twenty two million, Buddy
Healed makes ten or nine, and Moses Moody makes eleven five,
So that's thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
That's still not close enough. You'd have to throw in.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
The really interesting one. There would be drawn.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, that would be it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That would be yeah, Well you could trade Draymond and
Kaminga for for you honest and I think you'd have
to probably throw in a three or four million dollar
player on top of that.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And you could potentially do some kind.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Of but I don't know if Golden State has enough
number one picks. If Golden State were to do that,
it would be Okay, we're gonna get you on us,
and we're gonna make one last run with Curry and
Butler to win a championship, right and it's championship or bust,
and Curry and Butler are going to retire soon and
you'll have you, honest to rebuild around. But we're gonna
(05:00):
have Giannis and a bunch of G League players in
the future in the last two or three years of
his deal. And Giannis has a championship, he does have one.
I'm sure he wants more, so does everybody else. But
I'm just not sure that it can be worked out
where he's going to get traded to a team that
legitimately has a chance. Jannis and Curry and and and
(05:21):
Butler together that would be a good threesome right there.
That could create that opportunity, even with a with a
week bench. But I still don't think they're better than
Oklahoma City, and I don't think they're better than the Spurs,
even though they beat the Spurs the two times earlier
in the season.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And I don't think they would do it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But the Thunder absolutely have the contracts and the future
draft picks to do something this big. I mean, I'm
not I have no suggestion they should do it, but
how awful would that be? As you're thinking about trying
to catch the Thunder and then they add someone like Giannis.
I think anytime a guy of his level of his
(05:58):
skill ends up get getting traded, it's never too a
dumpster fire of a situation.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
They always seem Okay, So who like.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Giving up in Oklahoma City for Giannis?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Well, I mean, I think your obvious one would be chet.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He makes thirteen million, but he makes more next year.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But he's getting he's got the extension locked in, and
so you can apply that money and then you're you're
probably introducing a third team again to start matching salaries with.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Hey, here's the thing Oklahoma City has to consider, at
what point in time can the Big three there, Shay,
Jadab and Homeg can they all play together, and can
they play together for their entire careers? Because this is
the last year that Shay's making thirty eight, he goes
to what's seventy next year or something like that. Yeah,
(06:47):
and and Homegun goes from thirteen to forty forty forty
nine somewhere around there.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think it's the low forties.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And JDB goes from seven to forty one one. Yeah,
so let's say it's forty forty nine and seventy. That's uh,
that's one hundred and fifty million dollars with three players.
And so if you want to build a deep roster,
which they have, the obvious guy to trade is Chet
Hungrin because you're not going to trade. This is a
guard driven league and much more than a power driven league.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And so and it's position for position replacement.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, and you're gonna and honest is going to play
the spot that he would play. So yeah, they could
do it, but I wouldn't. I mean, when you're twenty
one and one, why are you gonna what's not broken?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It would be insane. But they're they're the only team
that is good. Besides the Spurs are the closest to them.
They're the only team that's good that also has really
good future draft picks under their control. To involve in
a trade one team. That wouldn't surprise me if they
were to try to get into the conversations the Raptors,
(07:54):
who are off to a great start and have shown
in the past they're willing to risk only getting a
superstar for one year or until his current contract expires,
and they take that swing. So that's another way Jis
want to resign with the Raptors. Well, that's what I'm saying.
They didn't care about Kawhi not re signing. It got
him a championship. They might be willing to try that again,
(08:16):
and they wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
He has two more years on the deal, so I
don't think Janis wants to go from one purgatory to another.
And right now Milwaukee's kind of They're not the Washington
Wizard's purgatory, but they're not far off as far as
this year is concerned. All Right, we got more coming
up six o'clock hours straight ahead as well.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Five forty six on the ticket.
That's the vogue thing that we have now in the NBA.
Used to be hamstrings, but now we have calf strains,
and because calf strains tend to lead to Achilles' injuries,
we're super cautious with those, because calf strains may take
a month and you've got to get that rehabbed and
straightened out so that you don't pop the achilles very
(00:22):
much like Tyres Saliburton did last year in the playoffs,
and many others have suffered a similar fate. That's a
full year recovery standpoint. So basically, if you heard it now,
you're not playing until this time next year. But there
is talk about his future with Milwaukee, and the Bucks
are eleven and thirteen I think as of last night,
they are a team that basically has him and a
(00:45):
bunch of guys that are way past their prime, and
it's time for Milwaukee to unload, and the only asset
they have to unload is him. And there's all kinds
of teams out there that are going to probably try
to jockey for position to get them or get him.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Milwaukee, however, needs.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Draft picks, draft capital, and salary cap dumps. They pay
Giannis around fifty four million dollars, So you have to
trade players that equal that amount of money to make
the trade work. And then the added bonus would be,
let's have a bunch of players. The teams that I
think they could use Giannis, and I don't know about
(01:22):
their draft capital. This is draft capital aside. I look
at Miami. I think he would be a good fit
there with with as long as they could keep Bam
and Hero, but I don't know that they have enough
players to equal fifty four million dollars. I think he
might be a good fit in New York, But then
are you going to gut a team that is still
considered one of the better teams in the East, and
(01:45):
you're going to have to find two or three players
at equal fifty four million, And I'm not sure how
many draft picks the next half. So the one part
about this new salary cap era that we're in and
the collective bargaining agreement that currently exists, is it's incredibly
difficult to workout trades. It often involves third and fourth teams.
And if I'm Milwaukee, I really don't care who the
(02:05):
players are as long as I dump the salary what
I want. If if and if I do get young players,
they better be young and they better not be costing
me any money. So I need five guys that make
eleven million dollars to get to him. But I want
the draft picks and I want them to be draft
picks that I can build my team very much the
way Oklahoma City and San Antonio have over the last
(02:26):
several years. And to me, that's going to be really
really difficult for Milwaukee to pull off without a lot
of intervention in a second or third team being involved.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, I mean, if they want it's one of those
weird situations where they would be better off not trying
to send Giannis to one of his destined or you know,
preferred destiny.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
This is where you're going. You don't have a no
trade clause to deal with it exactly. But then does
he resign with that team so that team may not
want him.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
That reason exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So you're in this weird battle for leverage and any
negotiations because you know, obviously the teams that come to mind,
you know, Miami, New York, you know, any potential Warriors
or Lakers, someone like that getting in getting involved. All
of those teams you're are now are good currently and
(03:17):
now you're trading Yannis there, so all the future picks
have very little value. So you feel like you have
to have some third team, you know, a team like
the like the Brooklyn Nets who have a absolute massive
amount of future picks, the Jazz, or even the Spurs,
whether they without getting Yannis, they're a team that would
(03:41):
potentially be at least try to rope into a three
or four team deal because if Milwaukee is chasing future
draft picks, they're not going to get it directly from
the team they send him to.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That wouldn't be their, you know, best package in return.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I'm looking at Golden State and Kaminga can't be traded
until a certain amount of time after signing the new deal.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I think it's what mid December. I think we're coming
up on it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So that's coming up. He makes twenty two million, Buddy
Healed makes ten or nine, and Moses Moody makes eleven five,
So that's thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
That's still not close enough. You'd have to throw in.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
The really interesting one. There would be drawn.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, that would be it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That would be yeah, Well you could trade Draymond and
Kaminga for for you honest and I think you'd have
to probably throw in a three or four million dollar
player on top of that.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And you could potentially do some kind.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Of but I don't know if Golden State has enough
number one picks. If Golden State were to do that,
it would be Okay, we're gonna get you on us,
and we're gonna make one last run with Curry and
Butler to win a championship, right and it's championship or bust,
and Curry and Butler are going to retire soon and
you'll have you, honest to rebuild around. But we're gonna
(05:00):
have Giannis and a bunch of G League players in
the future in the last two or three years of
his deal. And Giannis has a championship, he does have one.
I'm sure he wants more, so does everybody else. But
I'm just not sure that it can be worked out
where he's going to get traded to a team that
legitimately has a chance. Jannis and Curry and and and
(05:21):
Butler together that would be a good threesome right there.
That could create that opportunity, even with a with a
week bench. But I still don't think they're better than
Oklahoma City, and I don't think they're better than the Spurs,
even though they beat the Spurs the two times earlier
in the season.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And I don't think they would do it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But the Thunder absolutely have the contracts and the future
draft picks to do something this big. I mean, I'm
not I have no suggestion they should do it, but
how awful would that be? As you're thinking about trying
to catch the Thunder and then they add someone like Giannis.
I think anytime a guy of his level of his
(05:58):
skill ends up get getting traded, it's never too a
dumpster fire of a situation.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
They always seem Okay, So who like.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Giving up in Oklahoma City for Giannis?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Well, I mean, I think your obvious one would be chet.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He makes thirteen million, but he makes more next year.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But he's getting he's got the extension locked in, and
so you can apply that money and then you're you're
probably introducing a third team again to start matching salaries with.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Hey, here's the thing Oklahoma City has to consider, at
what point in time can the Big three there, Shay,
Jadab and Homeg can they all play together, and can
they play together for their entire careers? Because this is
the last year that Shay's making thirty eight, he goes
to what's seventy next year or something like that. Yeah,
(06:47):
and and Homegun goes from thirteen to forty forty forty
nine somewhere around there.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think it's the low forties.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And JDB goes from seven to forty one one. Yeah,
so let's say it's forty forty nine and seventy. That's uh,
that's one hundred and fifty million dollars with three players.
And so if you want to build a deep roster,
which they have, the obvious guy to trade is Chet
Hungrin because you're not going to trade. This is a
guard driven league and much more than a power driven league.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And so and it's position for position replacement.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, and you're gonna and honest is going to play
the spot that he would play. So yeah, they could
do it, but I wouldn't. I mean, when you're twenty
one and one, why are you gonna what's not broken?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It would be insane. But they're they're the only team
that is good. Besides the Spurs are the closest to them.
They're the only team that's good that also has really
good future draft picks under their control. To involve in
a trade one team. That wouldn't surprise me if they
were to try to get into the conversations the Raptors,
(07:54):
who are off to a great start and have shown
in the past they're willing to risk only getting a
superstar for one year or until his current contract expires,
and they take that swing. So that's another way Jis
want to resign with the Raptors. Well, that's what I'm saying.
They didn't care about Kawhi not re signing. It got
him a championship. They might be willing to try that again,
(08:16):
and they wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
He has two more years on the deal, so I
don't think Janis wants to go from one purgatory to another.
And right now Milwaukee's kind of They're not the Washington
Wizard's purgatory, but they're not far off as far as
this year is concerned. All Right, we got more coming
up six o'clock hours straight ahead as well.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Five forty six on the ticket.
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