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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, four point thirty six, it's the Andie Everage
show on the ticket. I wish I didn't have to
remind people of this. It should be something that goes
without saying. And I think it's pretty adamant where Michael
and I are and most Spurs fans are on what
the outcome should be of the Project Marvel vote. Whenever
(00:23):
it happens, whether it's this November or sometime between then
and the following November. I do think that they can
get all the information they need. And as I said
yesterday on the show, the economic study that most people
should be aware of is what does it do for
San Antonio if the Spurs are in a vulnerable position
(00:43):
to want to leave because they have a better opportunity
for revenue growth someplace else. Because if San Antonio were
to vote no on a new arena, but a couple
of things I want to get to before I get
into to the mayor situation. I have seen Facebook posts
today that suggests that Vegas is an option if the Spurs.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Ever, if the Spurs get a.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
No vote, I have read on many articles that are
by veteran NBA writers who cover the league every single
day and They are very adamant that no team is
moving to Seattle or to Vegas because there are investment
groups that are already there that are going to give
(01:27):
them five billion dollars as expansion fees. So that's ten
billion dollars for those two cities to get in the league,
and that's an opportunity for, you know, every team in
the league to to get a piece of that expansion franchise.
It's kind of like, you know, if you want to
join my club, here's the fee to get in, and
(01:47):
that's that's exactly what they're they're going to ask you
to do. So, you know, you do some pretty simple math,
and you're going to get to what the thirty existing
clubs are going to get somewhere in the neighborhood of
three hundred and thirty three million dollars apiece for those
two from those two franchises to get into the league.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I do, so I just don't.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And I'm going to reiterate my thoughts on the Austin situation.
There's a lot of people that think that Austin is
where they would consider going if they if they could
not get a deal done in San Antonio, they would
still have to build a one point five billion dollar
arena in Austin, there isn't one. And for those of
you that don't know, the Moody Center and the revenue
(02:35):
streams from the Moody Center for the most part, I'll
go to the University of Texas and I'm preaching to
the choir again here, But this is part of the
education process that you need to tell your friends and
family who don't are not sports fans, that it would
be the death knell of ut sports other than football
if they allowed a professional team to come into that city.
(02:58):
And the NBA is pretty powerful, and the Spurs have
some friends, and certainly Michael Del's is a partial owner
of the team, and they may try to make it work.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But for the most.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Part, where the NBA where there is a big college town,
the NBA has has killed a lot of the sports
opportunities from the college town. Oklahoma City is the latest
example of that in that both Oklahoma and Oklahoma State
lost a ton of ticket sales for their basketball programs
when the thunder came. Football still rules it OU, but
(03:31):
it does not rule an OSU. And if you go
back to two thousand and eight and the fact that
Oklahoma State hasn't been as good.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
For there was a few years they were.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, twenty eleven comes to mind, but the last five
or six years they've been a sub five hundred team,
and that also plays into the fact. But traditionally they
don't do well with the season ticket sales compared to OU,
and OU has been able to kind of stay afloat
football wise, but their other sports have hurt. A lot
(04:00):
of that funding and a lot of the resources in
a town that has less than a million people in
it are being diverted to be a part of the
sponsorship agreements with the Thunder. When the Grizzlies moved from Memphis,
they played originally in the Pyramid, which is now a
Bass Pro shop until they created FedEx Forum. And while
the Grizzlies play their home games there or the Tigers
(04:22):
play their home games there, the Grizzlies are the ones
that control it. So I don't think Seattle and Vegas
are opportunities. And I think that Austin tolerates the fact
that the Spurts come twice a year for games, and
obviously they want to be good citizens. But I cannot
imagine a university like Texas with the resources that it
(04:45):
has and the revenue that it creates, would give up
any of that revenue to host an NBA team for
eighty two games?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, you know, with it being a college town for
the most part, I would say that on a random
Tuesday or Wednesday. If you're a student, you're like, man,
I've finished all my work.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Whatever, what do you want to do? Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Let's go use our comp ticket student tickets to go
watch the basketball game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, you know, But it's not just the comp student.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's not just the comp students, but it's the guy
that makes one hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year
at some job in Austin, And is he going to
buy season tickets to the Longhorns And is he going
to buy season tickets to an NBA team or is
he going to buy both? And is he going to
be able to go to that many games? I mean,
it's hard to go to forty one games, let alone
at another fifteen or sixteen for the Longhorns. He'll still
(05:39):
show up at dk R on Saturday six times a year.
That's a Saturday, and at six times a year, and
the tailgating starts early. That's an event. Basketball is not
an event. Very few places is basketball an event, and
so I think Vegas, Seattle, and Austin are not on
teams that are on the radar. I'm not saying it
can't happen, but I I don't think it would be
(06:01):
the best marriage for the NBA or for the University
of Texas if if either.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Of those cities were part of the equation.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I just like the fact that I think it was
what the first year when they did it a couple
of years ago, they made it at the end of.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
The da they've made at the end of the season
because they didn't want them in the in the Moody Center.
That if that was the first year the Moody Center opened, Yeah,
they didn't want them in there in the middle of
their basketball season to potentially take away from the gate
on a weeknight or weekend game in between those games.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, I like the fact that that now is where
it's at during the you know, Rodeo road trip is.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, it's good for us for the Spurs that it's
the Rodeo road trip.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Well, but it's good for us because again you and
I talk about it all the time. You preface it
a lot. Yes, you were kind of taking away home games,
and who's to say if they had it this year
and it was the last two games of the season,
you're one game out of the playoffs or something like that,
you rely on that home. Now you have the potential
(07:02):
of two games being at home towards the end of
the season, whereas.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, it's basically it's basically two games that are home
games that could be disguised as road games to a
certain extent.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, I'll go back a couple of years ago when
I think it was again the first or second year
that they did it, when the Spurs played the Nuggets,
and even Michael Malone was like, this is a circus.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Why are we even here? Right?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He didn't A lot of things didn't work because a
college arena does things differently than an NBA arena does.
There's a lot of infrastructure that goes on in college
arenas or NBA arenas that colleges don't need or don't do,
so I'm sure Michael Malone wasn't happy where the locker
rooms were, or how they got to the court, or
what the security was. There was a lot of things
(07:49):
that were there and playing neutral site games. I don't
think has ever worked, but I understand why the Spurs
are doing it as part of their partnership with Austin.
But there's there's better opportunity, there's better that's probably going
to continue for some time. But Austin and Seattle and Vegas,
I think are tough cities for.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Nashville, Cincinnati, Louisville, places like that that don't have Kansas City,
that don't have NBA teams, Saint Louis. Not that there's
a deal on the table like there was in nineteen
ninety nine, but you open the opportunity for that to happen.
All right, let me get to this other thing real quick.
There was a guy that was in town here that
was arrested this past twenty four hours because he did
(08:34):
not like what the mayor had to say in her
interviews about Project Marvel and set online that she needs
to be killed. I don't care what your views are
on this. I don't care how adam, I don't care
if you voted for her or not. Statements like that
are absolutely ridiculous. There's no place for them, and there
is always going to be disagreement with people, and it
(08:57):
doesn't mean that you have to dislike somebody who disagrees
with you. That has been kind of the way that
we've lived for the last eight or ten years. It
used to be if you had a disagreement with someone,
you either agreed to disagree, or you civilly worked out,
or maybe you said something to the other person that
convinced them that you had a good point, and vice versa.
(09:18):
I hope that that this doesn't come to this. I
hope that we don't want to go down this road
any further, and I hope the guy that was arrested
for this gets to the fullest extent of the low
pushed in his direction. There's absolutely no call for that,
and no one.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Ever should suggest that at all.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
At some point, when we get closer to knowing exactly
what the deal is and we know it's coming up
on the ballot, I'm going to have as many people
that want to be on from city council and.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
From the mayor will reach out to them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
At some point, I want to get to a stage
where we actually know whether we're voting for this in
November or not, because if we're not, it doesn't really
do a lot of good until we get to a
stage where we are. But I welcome anyone's opinions, but
my overriding opinion all of this is when you say
it's going to cost san Antonio, I don't think it is.
(10:10):
Whether no matter what the revenue, the tax revenue is
going to be, I don't think it's going to cost
the usual citizen of San Antonio unless they rent a
car or they stay in a hotel.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And if that's not.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The case, if that's not the way this is going
to be funded, then that's part of the education process
that we also need as well. I just that's where
my issue is, is it's not costing San Antonians any money.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's costing tourist money, and.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
They're still going to come because even if the tax
goes up by one percent, All right, do you want
to go to a postgame press conference for money?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
We'll tell you exactly what, oh you's thinking about? Next,
it's the Andy Everage show on the ticket
All right, four point thirty six, it's the Andie Everage
show on the ticket. I wish I didn't have to
remind people of this. It should be something that goes
without saying. And I think it's pretty adamant where Michael
and I are and most Spurs fans are on what
the outcome should be of the Project Marvel vote. Whenever
(00:23):
it happens, whether it's this November or sometime between then
and the following November. I do think that they can
get all the information they need. And as I said
yesterday on the show, the economic study that most people
should be aware of is what does it do for
San Antonio if the Spurs are in a vulnerable position
(00:43):
to want to leave because they have a better opportunity
for revenue growth someplace else. Because if San Antonio were
to vote no on a new arena, but a couple
of things I want to get to before I get
into to the mayor situation. I have seen Facebook posts
today that suggests that Vegas is an option if the Spurs.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Ever, if the Spurs get a.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
No vote, I have read on many articles that are
by veteran NBA writers who cover the league every single
day and They are very adamant that no team is
moving to Seattle or to Vegas because there are investment
groups that are already there that are going to give
(01:27):
them five billion dollars as expansion fees. So that's ten
billion dollars for those two cities to get in the league,
and that's an opportunity for, you know, every team in
the league to to get a piece of that expansion franchise.
It's kind of like, you know, if you want to
join my club, here's the fee to get in, and
(01:47):
that's that's exactly what they're they're going to ask you
to do. So, you know, you do some pretty simple math,
and you're going to get to what the thirty existing
clubs are going to get somewhere in the neighborhood of
three hundred and thirty three million dollars apiece for those
two from those two franchises to get into the league.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I do, so I just don't.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And I'm going to reiterate my thoughts on the Austin situation.
There's a lot of people that think that Austin is
where they would consider going if they if they could
not get a deal done in San Antonio, they would
still have to build a one point five billion dollar
arena in Austin, there isn't one. And for those of
you that don't know, the Moody Center and the revenue
(02:35):
streams from the Moody Center for the most part, I'll
go to the University of Texas and I'm preaching to
the choir again here, But this is part of the
education process that you need to tell your friends and
family who don't are not sports fans, that it would
be the death knell of ut sports other than football
if they allowed a professional team to come into that city.
(02:58):
And the NBA is pretty powerful, and the Spurs have
some friends, and certainly Michael Del's is a partial owner
of the team, and they may try to make it work.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
But for the most.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Part, where the NBA where there is a big college town,
the NBA has has killed a lot of the sports
opportunities from the college town. Oklahoma City is the latest
example of that in that both Oklahoma and Oklahoma State
lost a ton of ticket sales for their basketball programs
when the thunder came. Football still rules it OU, but
(03:31):
it does not rule an OSU. And if you go
back to two thousand and eight and the fact that
Oklahoma State hasn't been as good.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
For there was a few years they were.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, twenty eleven comes to mind, but the last five
or six years they've been a sub five hundred team,
and that also plays into the fact. But traditionally they
don't do well with the season ticket sales compared to OU,
and OU has been able to kind of stay afloat
football wise, but their other sports have hurt. A lot
(04:00):
of that funding and a lot of the resources in
a town that has less than a million people in
it are being diverted to be a part of the
sponsorship agreements with the Thunder. When the Grizzlies moved from Memphis,
they played originally in the Pyramid, which is now a
Bass Pro shop until they created FedEx Forum. And while
the Grizzlies play their home games there or the Tigers
(04:22):
play their home games there, the Grizzlies are the ones
that control it. So I don't think Seattle and Vegas
are opportunities. And I think that Austin tolerates the fact
that the Spurts come twice a year for games, and
obviously they want to be good citizens. But I cannot
imagine a university like Texas with the resources that it
(04:45):
has and the revenue that it creates, would give up
any of that revenue to host an NBA team for
eighty two games?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, you know, with it being a college town for
the most part, I would say that on a random
Tuesday or Wednesday. If you're a student, you're like, man,
I've finished all my work.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Whatever, what do you want to do? Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Let's go use our comp ticket student tickets to go
watch the basketball game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, you know, But it's not just the comp student.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's not just the comp students, but it's the guy
that makes one hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year
at some job in Austin, And is he going to
buy season tickets to the Longhorns And is he going
to buy season tickets to an NBA team or is
he going to buy both? And is he going to
be able to go to that many games? I mean,
it's hard to go to forty one games, let alone
at another fifteen or sixteen for the Longhorns. He'll still
(05:39):
show up at dk R on Saturday six times a year.
That's a Saturday, and at six times a year, and
the tailgating starts early. That's an event. Basketball is not
an event. Very few places is basketball an event, and
so I think Vegas, Seattle, and Austin are not on
teams that are on the radar. I'm not saying it
can't happen, but I I don't think it would be
(06:01):
the best marriage for the NBA or for the University
of Texas if if either.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Of those cities were part of the equation.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I just like the fact that I think it was
what the first year when they did it a couple
of years ago, they made it at the end of.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
The da they've made at the end of the season
because they didn't want them in the in the Moody Center.
That if that was the first year the Moody Center opened, Yeah,
they didn't want them in there in the middle of
their basketball season to potentially take away from the gate
on a weeknight or weekend game in between those games.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, I like the fact that that now is where
it's at during the you know, Rodeo road trip is.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, it's good for us for the Spurs that it's
the Rodeo road trip.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Well, but it's good for us because again you and
I talk about it all the time. You preface it
a lot. Yes, you were kind of taking away home games,
and who's to say if they had it this year
and it was the last two games of the season,
you're one game out of the playoffs or something like that,
you rely on that home. Now you have the potential
(07:02):
of two games being at home towards the end of
the season, whereas.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, it's basically it's basically two games that are home
games that could be disguised as road games to a
certain extent.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, I'll go back a couple of years ago when
I think it was again the first or second year
that they did it, when the Spurs played the Nuggets,
and even Michael Malone was like, this is a circus.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Why are we even here? Right?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He didn't A lot of things didn't work because a
college arena does things differently than an NBA arena does.
There's a lot of infrastructure that goes on in college
arenas or NBA arenas that colleges don't need or don't do,
so I'm sure Michael Malone wasn't happy where the locker
rooms were, or how they got to the court, or
what the security was. There was a lot of things
(07:49):
that were there and playing neutral site games. I don't
think has ever worked, but I understand why the Spurs
are doing it as part of their partnership with Austin.
But there's there's better opportunity, there's better that's probably going
to continue for some time. But Austin and Seattle and Vegas,
I think are tough cities for.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
That to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Nashville, Cincinnati, Louisville, places like that that don't have Kansas City,
that don't have NBA teams, Saint Louis. Not that there's
a deal on the table like there was in nineteen
ninety nine, but you open the opportunity for that to happen.
All right, let me get to this other thing real quick.
There was a guy that was in town here that
was arrested this past twenty four hours because he did
(08:34):
not like what the mayor had to say in her
interviews about Project Marvel and set online that she needs
to be killed. I don't care what your views are
on this. I don't care how adam, I don't care
if you voted for her or not. Statements like that
are absolutely ridiculous. There's no place for them, and there
is always going to be disagreement with people, and it
(08:57):
doesn't mean that you have to dislike somebody who disagrees
with you. That has been kind of the way that
we've lived for the last eight or ten years. It
used to be if you had a disagreement with someone,
you either agreed to disagree, or you civilly worked out,
or maybe you said something to the other person that
convinced them that you had a good point, and vice versa.
(09:18):
I hope that that this doesn't come to this. I
hope that we don't want to go down this road
any further, and I hope the guy that was arrested
for this gets to the fullest extent of the low
pushed in his direction. There's absolutely no call for that,
and no one.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Ever should suggest that at all.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
At some point, when we get closer to knowing exactly
what the deal is and we know it's coming up
on the ballot, I'm going to have as many people
that want to be on from city council and.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
From the mayor will reach out to them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
At some point, I want to get to a stage
where we actually know whether we're voting for this in
November or not, because if we're not, it doesn't really
do a lot of good until we get to a
stage where we are. But I welcome anyone's opinions, but
my overriding opinion all of this is when you say
it's going to cost san Antonio, I don't think it is.
(10:10):
Whether no matter what the revenue, the tax revenue is
going to be, I don't think it's going to cost
the usual citizen of San Antonio unless they rent a
car or they stay in a hotel.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And if that's not.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The case, if that's not the way this is going
to be funded, then that's part of the education process
that we also need as well. I just that's where
my issue is, is it's not costing San Antonians any money.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's costing tourist money, and.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
They're still going to come because even if the tax
goes up by one percent, All right, do you want
to go to a postgame press conference for money?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
We'll tell you exactly what, oh you's thinking about? Next,
it's the Andy Everage show on the ticket
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