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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Signing Day happens and Michigan gets whoever it got, and
most people say they did pretty good get the recruits
that they wanted. And then this week after signing day,
I guess is over and they don't need him anymore.
They roll out this story and it ends up getting
him in jail, where he still resides waiting in an
aggravated assault charge. He is the head coach of the
(00:22):
Michigan Wolverines. There are one hundred and thirty four jobs
Inege in Division I college football, and they're about twenty
that you could say are elite. And when I say elite,
now there's others that could be elite in the future,
because we now live in an era where if you
spend enough money, your job in your school and your
program can be elite. Raise your hand if you ever
(00:42):
thought that anybody coaching Indiana would make ninety three million dollars,
I don't see any hands up.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So that's the example right there.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And so however you wish to spend your money in
your athletic department is going to determine the fate of
your football team. And we'll talk about this in the
next segment A little bit more In depth because UTSA
got a gift this week from Ed Whittaker, the former
head of AT and T. But if somebody walked into
UTSA and put I don't know, seventy five million, a
(01:14):
hundred million, to hundred million, just whatever million you want,
however many zeros you want, the fate of that athletic
department in program would turn one hundred and eighty degrees immediately.
You would be able to recruit any player you would want.
You would be able to build any facility that you want.
You would be able to cover the outdoor with money
left over, and you could fund your nil to where
you could get every player that anybody else in your
(01:36):
conference is getting, and some and other conferences. There still
maybe some players that choose to play at UT or
A and M, But if they were to choose to
go there, and they were to think that they're a
backup where they could start someplace else, they might take
the money and go someplace that they could play. So
Sharon Moore has one of the most at least top
(01:56):
twenty five, if not top fifteen or twenty jobs in
the world. He got the job because they didn't really
have a choice on who to hire after the gem
Arbaugh mess that he left them in, and they figured
that he was the best one to clean up the mess,
and that the recruits that they had would stay and
that the players would listen to him. And I thought
they had a better year this year than I expected
them to. They were only a game away from potentially
(02:18):
going after the Big Ten championship. But then you use
your position of power and you allow your emotions to
get in the way of some kinds. From what all
the reports are, and the police have not released these charges,
but there are reports from different media outlets that he
was having an inappropriate relationship with somebody in the athletic department. Now,
(02:39):
I don't know what Michigan's nepotism laws are and what
you're allowed to do and not do, and you know
who you're who you can have relationships with, and who
you can't. But typically speaking, in most work environments, if
you have if you are the if your position in
a company is you're not managing anybody, you're not anybody's boss,
(02:59):
and or you don't become someone's boss, more often than
not that situation is allowed. And I said this yesterday
in the day before we spend more time with our
work families than we ever do with our regular families. Unfortunately,
that's just the balance or the unbalance of life that
we have. You're in an office setting, if you're still
(03:21):
in a office setting, or you're in a business meeting
setting with somebody usually from eight in the morning to
six in the evening, and you go home and you
got four hours before you go to sleep, and then
you are five and then you wake up and do
it all over again the next day. So a lot
of people that are single are going to meet people
in the office, and a lot of people that are
married are going to be in the office, and friendships
and relationships are going to develop from that. But if
(03:44):
you are the supervisor of somebody, either one of you's
got to quit because it creates a conflict of interest
where you have power over a person that you could
be in a relationship with.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, and that's where I think the the blatant just
disregard for any attempt to really cover up or hide
any like she was making. This was her third year
on staff. Sharon Moore controls budget of budget levels of
the staff. She went from making fifty thousand a year
(04:19):
to ninety thousand a year this past year, while the
rest of the people at her same position stayed in
the fifty thousand.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But even beyond that, I think you could make a
case that the football coach is the most powerful person
on campus.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh, no question.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
The president actually runs the school, and the athletic director
is technically your boss. But unless you lose a lot
of games, or you do something against and breaking the law,
which Sharon Moore did, or you get the school put
on probation because you broke every rule that there was,
which Sharon Moore allegedly did. Under well, he was complicit
(04:56):
in the Jim Hart Jim Harbad did and he was
the fall guy.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, but he we are three game suspension.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes he did.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, but a lot of that was Oh well, the
guy that we should be giving the suspension two for
the year is no longer here, So we got to
give it to somebody who knew what he was doing
and didn't call him out.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And that's a hard situation to do so because if
you are the offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator and the
coach says this is what we're doing, you have two choices.
You either quit or go along with it. Even if
you know it's wrong because if you and then how
are you going to get the next job that you're
looking for. Jeff Trailer had a great line at one
of the coaches shows. He said, we're all going to
get fired someday, and we're all trying to be as
(05:35):
friendly as we can because at some point we're going
to have to call somebody up and ask for a job.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And so.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And the vagabond life that a coach lives is nuts.
I mean, especially assistant coaches. They're all over the place.
I mean, look at will Stein. He was at Lake
Travis High School ten years ago, he was at UTSA
five years ago. He's been at Oregon for four years now.
He's going to Louisville. So he's been in four different
cities in ten years. I don't know that a lot
(06:00):
of people want to move that much, but if you're
going to be a football coach, you better have the
moving company on speed dial.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I will I will continue to bring it up in
perpetuity until anything changes. But you know, aside from throwing
away all of his personal life and relationships, or at
least throwing a massive stress into all of his personal relationships,
he also as a first time head coach signed a
(06:29):
five year contract that paid him five and a half
million a year. Yeah, I know, another first series doesn't
pay that much. No, not so much. No, door dash
probably won't be able to cover the difference there. Just
for comparison. The rumored number that first year head coach
Brian Schottenheimer signed for with the Cowboys four year deal
(06:52):
four and a half million dollars, So he's getting paid
more than the head coach of the Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well that's a jerry thing too.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But again, I just always want to for comparisons.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So here's listen.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
If you if you are going, if you meet somebody,
and this is my philosophy of life, if you meet somebody,
I know there's guys out there that are driving off
the road and you can say what you want. I
know there's a lot of people out there that have
affairs all the time and they've been able to keep
it a secret. And that's the way you want to
live your life. I'm not going to judge you for it.
I'm not going down that road. As I said in
(07:26):
the first segment, I think when you say, when you
tell somebody you're going to be with them forever, That's
a pretty important vow no matter how you look at
your promises that you keep to people. And I'm not
saying don't get divorced if you're unhappy, and if if
it works out for you, that's fine, but don't cheat
on somebody. When you're the head football coach of a team.
It looks bad for your team. It looks bad. It's
(07:48):
all no matter what moral compass you have, that that
moral compass is going to go in the opposite direction.
And then you've got to deal with the aftermath of
all of that. And there's no away you're going to
keep it a secret forever. Somebody's going to talk about it.
So if the two of you really want to be together,
she quits, she becomes your girlfriend after you divorce your wife,
(08:10):
and none of this. Nobody cares. I got a divorce.
We didn't we We we split amicably. I gave her
half the money. Now I'm dating somebody and she no
longer works here. That's the only way that works out.
And he didn't know, he didn't choose that path.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, how how have we still not learned from the
Bobby Petrino skinned up face after the motorcycle crash press
conference with the neck brace loot. How have we still
not learned our lesson after watching the embarrassment that man
went through? How are we still getting stories like that?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And you've worked your entire life to get here, and
now that you're here making twenty five million over the
next five years, which is generational money, and then you decide, Okay,
I'm just gonna throw it away because I'm the football
coach and I think I can get away with it.
You've been hanging around Jim Harball way too long because
he got away with way too many things, not necessarily
relations and ship wise, but in other areas I would argue.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You've just probably been hanging around other coaches in general.
For two Like, if you're talking if you're an accountant
sitting in a nine to five office space having an
affair that is very as someone who likes to live
in the gray, nothing's black and white. That is very,
very different from some teed up college coach who's constantly like,
(09:24):
it's football and its sex. Those are the two things
that are at the top of his mind every morning, afternoon,
and night. I do think there's some job pressures that
have seemingly make this trend more likely in certain professions than.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
When you look at the schedule that a coach should
be having, or most coaches do have from five in
the morning to ten at night. I'm not sure when
there's time for any extra marital issues anyway, but I'm
sure he found some.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yea, that's the great. These guys are are great.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
At Okay, we're gonna ski up the quarterback meeting. I
got a meeting, right.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, I gotta drop schematics on my personal life. We'll
figure we'll figure out. I was defense tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And I laugh because I I don't mean too because
it I feel badly for sure, own more from the
fact that he's thrown away everything you ever worked for.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But he did it himself. This was this was self inflicted.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And you know, some professions are a little stressful, and
this one certainly is.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But dude, there's pictures of him and her walking from
the coach's office to her on campus housing rights. So
he was just so blatant about it, and like that
was the pictures I saw were back in April. So
I mean, it's it's not like he was really doing
a whole lot to hide it either.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, there is a way to like.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like I said, she quits, you get divorced, that you
can do whatever you want, no one cares hide it,
and then threatened if she doesn't stay with you illicitly
that you're gonna kill her and kill yourself. That's the
line that you can't cross. Plus having the the affair
on a public affair that's going to embarrass the school
as well. All Right, we got more coming up, but
(11:03):
we'll talk about the UTSA gift and a few other
things next.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's four forty seven on the ticket.
Signing Day happens and Michigan gets whoever it got, and
most people say they did pretty good get the recruits
that they wanted. And then this week after signing day,
I guess is over and they don't need him anymore.
They roll out this story and it ends up getting
him in jail, where he still resides waiting in an
aggravated assault charge. He is the head coach of the
(00:22):
Michigan Wolverines. There are one hundred and thirty four jobs
Inege in Division I college football, and they're about twenty
that you could say are elite. And when I say elite,
now there's others that could be elite in the future,
because we now live in an era where if you
spend enough money, your job in your school and your
program can be elite. Raise your hand if you ever
(00:42):
thought that anybody coaching Indiana would make ninety three million dollars,
I don't see any hands up.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So that's the example right there.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And so however you wish to spend your money in
your athletic department is going to determine the fate of
your football team. And we'll talk about this in the
next segment A little bit more In depth because UTSA
got a gift this week from Ed Whittaker, the former
head of AT and T. But if somebody walked into
UTSA and put I don't know, seventy five million, a
(01:14):
hundred million, to hundred million, just whatever million you want,
however many zeros you want, the fate of that athletic
department in program would turn one hundred and eighty degrees immediately.
You would be able to recruit any player you would want.
You would be able to build any facility that you want.
You would be able to cover the outdoor with money
left over, and you could fund your nil to where
you could get every player that anybody else in your
(01:36):
conference is getting, and some and other conferences. There still
maybe some players that choose to play at UT or
A and M, But if they were to choose to
go there, and they were to think that they're a
backup where they could start someplace else, they might take
the money and go someplace that they could play. So
Sharon Moore has one of the most at least top
(01:56):
twenty five, if not top fifteen or twenty jobs in
the world. He got the job because they didn't really
have a choice on who to hire after the gem
Arbaugh mess that he left them in, and they figured
that he was the best one to clean up the mess,
and that the recruits that they had would stay and
that the players would listen to him. And I thought
they had a better year this year than I expected
them to. They were only a game away from potentially
(02:18):
going after the Big Ten championship. But then you use
your position of power and you allow your emotions to
get in the way of some kinds. From what all
the reports are, and the police have not released these charges,
but there are reports from different media outlets that he
was having an inappropriate relationship with somebody in the athletic department. Now,
(02:39):
I don't know what Michigan's nepotism laws are and what
you're allowed to do and not do, and you know
who you're who you can have relationships with, and who
you can't. But typically speaking, in most work environments, if
you have if you are the if your position in
a company is you're not managing anybody, you're not anybody's boss,
(02:59):
and or you don't become someone's boss, more often than
not that situation is allowed. And I said this yesterday
in the day before we spend more time with our
work families than we ever do with our regular families. Unfortunately,
that's just the balance or the unbalance of life that
we have. You're in an office setting, if you're still
(03:21):
in a office setting, or you're in a business meeting
setting with somebody usually from eight in the morning to
six in the evening, and you go home and you
got four hours before you go to sleep, and then
you are five and then you wake up and do
it all over again the next day. So a lot
of people that are single are going to meet people
in the office, and a lot of people that are
married are going to be in the office, and friendships
and relationships are going to develop from that. But if
(03:44):
you are the supervisor of somebody, either one of you's
got to quit because it creates a conflict of interest
where you have power over a person that you could
be in a relationship with.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, and that's where I think the the blatant just
disregard for any attempt to really cover up or hide
any like she was making. This was her third year
on staff. Sharon Moore controls budget of budget levels of
the staff. She went from making fifty thousand a year
(04:19):
to ninety thousand a year this past year, while the
rest of the people at her same position stayed in
the fifty thousand.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But even beyond that, I think you could make a
case that the football coach is the most powerful person
on campus.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh, no question.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
The president actually runs the school, and the athletic director
is technically your boss. But unless you lose a lot
of games, or you do something against and breaking the law,
which Sharon Moore did, or you get the school put
on probation because you broke every rule that there was,
which Sharon Moore allegedly did. Under well, he was complicit
(04:56):
in the Jim Hart Jim Harbad did and he was
the fall guy.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, but he we are three game suspension.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes he did.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, but a lot of that was Oh well, the
guy that we should be giving the suspension two for
the year is no longer here, So we got to
give it to somebody who knew what he was doing
and didn't call him out.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And that's a hard situation to do so because if
you are the offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator and the
coach says this is what we're doing, you have two choices.
You either quit or go along with it. Even if
you know it's wrong because if you and then how
are you going to get the next job that you're
looking for. Jeff Trailer had a great line at one
of the coaches shows. He said, we're all going to
get fired someday, and we're all trying to be as
(05:35):
friendly as we can because at some point we're going
to have to call somebody up and ask for a job.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And so.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And the vagabond life that a coach lives is nuts.
I mean, especially assistant coaches. They're all over the place.
I mean, look at will Stein. He was at Lake
Travis High School ten years ago, he was at UTSA
five years ago. He's been at Oregon for four years now.
He's going to Louisville. So he's been in four different
cities in ten years. I don't know that a lot
(06:00):
of people want to move that much, but if you're
going to be a football coach, you better have the
moving company on speed dial.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I will I will continue to bring it up in
perpetuity until anything changes. But you know, aside from throwing
away all of his personal life and relationships, or at
least throwing a massive stress into all of his personal relationships,
he also as a first time head coach signed a
(06:29):
five year contract that paid him five and a half
million a year. Yeah, I know, another first series doesn't
pay that much. No, not so much. No, door dash
probably won't be able to cover the difference there. Just
for comparison. The rumored number that first year head coach
Brian Schottenheimer signed for with the Cowboys four year deal
(06:52):
four and a half million dollars, So he's getting paid
more than the head coach of the Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well that's a jerry thing too.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But again, I just always want to for comparisons.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So here's listen.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
If you if you are going, if you meet somebody,
and this is my philosophy of life, if you meet somebody,
I know there's guys out there that are driving off
the road and you can say what you want. I
know there's a lot of people out there that have
affairs all the time and they've been able to keep
it a secret. And that's the way you want to
live your life. I'm not going to judge you for it.
I'm not going down that road. As I said in
(07:26):
the first segment, I think when you say, when you
tell somebody you're going to be with them forever, That's
a pretty important vow no matter how you look at
your promises that you keep to people. And I'm not
saying don't get divorced if you're unhappy, and if if
it works out for you, that's fine, but don't cheat
on somebody. When you're the head football coach of a team.
It looks bad for your team. It looks bad. It's
(07:48):
all no matter what moral compass you have, that that
moral compass is going to go in the opposite direction.
And then you've got to deal with the aftermath of
all of that. And there's no away you're going to
keep it a secret forever. Somebody's going to talk about it.
So if the two of you really want to be together,
she quits, she becomes your girlfriend after you divorce your wife,
(08:10):
and none of this. Nobody cares. I got a divorce.
We didn't we We we split amicably. I gave her
half the money. Now I'm dating somebody and she no
longer works here. That's the only way that works out.
And he didn't know, he didn't choose that path.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, how how have we still not learned from the
Bobby Petrino skinned up face after the motorcycle crash press
conference with the neck brace loot. How have we still
not learned our lesson after watching the embarrassment that man
went through? How are we still getting stories like that?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And you've worked your entire life to get here, and
now that you're here making twenty five million over the
next five years, which is generational money, and then you decide, Okay,
I'm just gonna throw it away because I'm the football
coach and I think I can get away with it.
You've been hanging around Jim Harball way too long because
he got away with way too many things, not necessarily
relations and ship wise, but in other areas I would argue.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You've just probably been hanging around other coaches in general.
For two Like, if you're talking if you're an accountant
sitting in a nine to five office space having an
affair that is very as someone who likes to live
in the gray, nothing's black and white. That is very,
very different from some teed up college coach who's constantly like,
(09:24):
it's football and its sex. Those are the two things
that are at the top of his mind every morning, afternoon,
and night. I do think there's some job pressures that
have seemingly make this trend more likely in certain professions than.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
When you look at the schedule that a coach should
be having, or most coaches do have from five in
the morning to ten at night. I'm not sure when
there's time for any extra marital issues anyway, but I'm
sure he found some.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yea, that's the great. These guys are are great.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
At Okay, we're gonna ski up the quarterback meeting. I
got a meeting, right.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, I gotta drop schematics on my personal life. We'll
figure we'll figure out. I was defense tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And I laugh because I I don't mean too because
it I feel badly for sure, own more from the
fact that he's thrown away everything you ever worked for.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But he did it himself. This was this was self inflicted.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
And you know, some professions are a little stressful, and
this one certainly is.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But dude, there's pictures of him and her walking from
the coach's office to her on campus housing rights. So
he was just so blatant about it, and like that
was the pictures I saw were back in April. So
I mean, it's it's not like he was really doing
a whole lot to hide it either.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, there is a way to like.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Like I said, she quits, you get divorced, that you
can do whatever you want, no one cares hide it,
and then threatened if she doesn't stay with you illicitly
that you're gonna kill her and kill yourself. That's the
line that you can't cross. Plus having the the affair
on a public affair that's going to embarrass the school
as well. All Right, we got more coming up, but
(11:03):
we'll talk about the UTSA gift and a few other
things next.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's four forty seven on the ticket.
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