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August 21, 2025 11 mins
We take calls from citizens who make their voices heard on Project Marvel.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The news of the day, and probably the topic for
most of the show today is going to be about
the proposed Spurs arena. I've got some more thoughts on that.
We do have a phone call to take on this. Hollis,
thank you for Colleen. What's your thoughts on it here
on the ticket?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, I was just thinking looking at it from a
different perspective, thinking that, like, I think that San Antonio
really has to lean into it more than beyond the Spurs.
And what I mean by that is like what the
deal is going to give for the city. For example,
is it going to be like new umbrellas for Costa
Rio or you know Ripley's believe it or not, wax

(00:41):
easium or something, Or is it going to be affordable
areas for like mom and pop type places or or
retail sites to be opened up. I think the city
needs to let more people know about that part of
it because they still burned on how that one part
of by the AT and T sient was never developed.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, I know there were some city leaders that said
they were going to develop the area around there, but
there was nobody that wanted to. A city can promise something,
but you still need people with money to want to
invest there, and nobody wanted to invest there for a
variety of reasons, and probably the eminent domain needs of

(01:22):
a lot of things in that area would have been
way too much cost to get the benefit back. And
also remember that that was done by the county, and
as I mentioned before, Joe Cryer and Judge Nelson Wolf
were the ones that spearheaded that. And I can't remember
whether the mayor was Thornton or Peak at the time,
but that mayor and that city council were dead said
about doing anything to build a downtown arena. At the time,

(01:46):
the dome was five six years old and they did
not want to do that. And to save the Spurs,
those two individuals knew they had to do something and
do it quickly, and to a certain extent that was
done hastily, but it was an emergency situation to make
sure the Spurs didn't take the investor money from Baltimore
and Bolt, and it would have been what it was
going to happen if that vote didn't come through. So

(02:07):
here's the thing to think about when you're looking at downtown.
I don't know or I would not think that it's
going to make the Wax Museum or umbrellas on the
River walk more of a deal. And I'm sorry that
football and basketball and baseball tickets are astronomically expensive. They
have absolutely priced out the common fan. But that doesn't

(02:30):
change the fact that the question needs to be asked,
do you want the Spurs to go somewhere else? And
I'm going to talk about this in another light in
a little bit. I really think the part of the
identity of San Antonio is the Alamo, maybe some of
our other tourist sites, and the Spurs. And when you
go someplace else and say you're from San Antonio, I'll

(02:50):
bet you more than anything else, the people that you
say you're from San Antonio, what they remember or recognize
the most about your city is the Spurs. And so
I think that's something that we have to take a
look at when you're deciding this. I don't think the
Spurs have a deal in place like they did in
ninety nine, but to open up the possibility for their

(03:11):
one to be come in place if there's not the
funding for this mechanism and for this arena. And look
five hundred miles to the north, Oklahoma City, a town
that says third, the size of San Antonio is doing
a sales tax that's going to affect every citizen on
everything they buy for five years, maybe six, and they're

(03:32):
just and it passed seventy one to twenty nine. So
if they are thinking, how do they think so positively
when we have so many or so it seems that
are potentially thinking negatively.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
And it makes sense that he bred that's a Hollis,
thank you for calling the show. By the way, it
makes sense that he would bring up other businesses like
this because it all starts from the top and works
its way down and a trickle down effect whenever you
bring more money in like this, and people always people
always speculate, oh, we have to put more money out,
not realizing that like to spend money to make money.
That the reality of build up the Spurs and like

(04:04):
you said, like you said last segment, the Almodome brings
in ten to twenty billion dollars over his lifespan. That
money like that stays within the city and if used properly,
everyone prospers.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Just think if you didn't have the Alamo Dome, the
final fours, the Bowl games, the first couple of the
Spurs may have left in ninety three or ninety four
if that building hadn't been available for them to go
to and another one wasn't online.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
I think that these arenas.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yes, they cost a lot of money, and they're expensive
to maintain, but we're talking about especially in a city
like San Antonio, where there's not a lot of white collar,
high paying executive type salaries. There may be one person
in the family that has a job like that, and
somebody else works forty five to sixty Spurs games a

(04:52):
year and brings home ten, twelve, fifteen, eighteen, twenty thousand,
whatever their job is, and it's enough to pay the
rest of their bills or to make them be able
to go on vacation or you know, buy a car,
or do whatever they need to do. I've used the
illustration up in Arlington many times about the servers up there,
and I'm sure this is it at the Frost Bank

(05:13):
Center where they wait on those who are VIP season
ticket holders, and they're maybe making six seven, eight hundred
dollars a night for fifteen nights a year. You know,
that's potentially fifty grand a year and a lot of it.
If they're getting cash tips. Probably is money in their pocket.
But it's creating the infrastructure, and it's creating the opportunity
for economic growth and the ability for people to spend

(05:35):
more in your city. And I think that's really really important.
Before I finish this segment, just a quick breaking news segment.
The SEC has announced in the last few minutes that
next year they're going to go to a nine game schedule.
I'll talk about that in the last segment of the hour,
and also we'll visit with Craig Way and Peter Burns
about that at five point seventeen and at six o'clock
to night. So here's something that I'm looking at as

(05:57):
we now move towards the ballot between and I believe
November fifth is when the election will take place and
you can vote yes or no.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I think it isn't remember fourth fourth.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
It's probably the first Tuesday in November, whatever that is,
or maybe it's a weekend. I haven't looked at the
calendar in a while. But anyway, there's two groups of
people that I'm I'm kind of concerned about and every election,
those who voted no for the Alamodome and those who
voted no for the Frost Bank Center are likely still

(06:26):
to vote No.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
They're just naysayers. They don't care.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's somehow, some way I think I'm getting I'm getting hoodwinked.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm just going to say no, because that's what I
always do.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
But there there's two groups of people that now exist
that did not exist ten years ago, in or twenty
five years ago, in ninety nine, twenty six years ago,
and in nineteen eighty nine when we were voting for
the Dome. A lot of the more affluent people and
a lot of the season ticket holder base, and a

(06:57):
lot of the people that would consider themselves die Yard
Spurs fans have moved to areas where they're not going
to be able to vote. They may not be in
San Antonio proper or in Bear County. I mean, I'll
be totally transparent. I moved this past year and a
half ago, and I'm a quarter of a mile into
Comel County.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
So I don't think I get to vote on this.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
But I will spend money in San Antonio, and if
I ever decided to stay in a hotel, it's likely
going to be at the JW. Marriott or or Lockintera
or Hyatt or someplace downtown. If I want to do
a staycation and I'm going to pay one percent. And
if my hotel bill now is five hundred bucks and
it's now five hundred and five bucks, that's not going
to determ me from going. So I am concerned that

(07:41):
there are people that would have voted yes for this
twenty six years ago and thirty six years ago that
may not be here now. And the other part of
this is something I continue to hear and it is real,
and this is one of the things I want to
kind of talk people off the ledge, if you will,
we know, in the last seven or eight years, and
and this this was a concern that I thought was

(08:02):
that going to happen then? And I think it's coming
to fruition a little bit. A lot of you have
turned in your Spurs card. A lot of you are
not big fans of the NBA because of the way
the game is played, and a lot of you are
not Spurs fans because of the political comments made by
coaches and players around the league, including coach Pop. And
I know that you when you tell somebody you're an

(08:25):
idiot for doing something and then oh, by the way,
hey can you help us with a vote here?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
So that we can have a new arena.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Your first reaction to that is, really, you want your help,
you want my help now. But let's get get back
to what you're really voting for. You're voting for the
identity of a city. You're you're voting for the idea
for the identity of when you uh, You're you're voting
only for the identity of a city. You're looking at
something that is a major economic impact provider to this community.

(08:54):
And you only need to look at the cities who
have lost teams and how much revenue they've lost, and
how much infrastructure they've lost, and how many jobs have
been lost because of it. Seattle lost the Sonics and
for the last seventeen years they've been begging the league
to get back in the NBA, and they may get
in on the next expansion run, but that's a long
time to wait.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
And Oakland has not lost one.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
They've lost three sports teams in the last ten years,
with the A's, the Warriors, and the Raiders all going
to different cities. We can go back to nineteen the
nineteen fifties. It was nineteen fifty nine, I think when
the Dodgers went to Brooklyn or left Brooklyn for LA
And it's was what two thousand and nine or ten
eleven twelve when did the Nets move to Brooklyn from

(09:39):
New Jersey those around that time, So it's forty years basically,
since they are fifty. When they left Brooklyn and another
professional sports team came back to that community, the Kansas
City chiefs threatened to leave Kansas City, Kansas, Missouri and
go to Kansas City, Kansas, And of course the people
in Kansas, miss they are like, wait a second, We're

(10:00):
not going to move a team ten miles across the
road and let that area and that state take all
of our money and all the economic impact that comes
with it. So even though you may be a little
bit hurt and have your feelings hurt by what was
said about who you voted for, what your political affiliation is,
I think it's time to take the high road and

(10:21):
understand that you are way better off, especially if you're
in business, do business, have business, or want to conduct business,
and especially also if you have a downtown area business
that would thrive because the team's here. You know, time
heals all wounds, and maybe the time has come to
where that wound can be healed. So you can vote yes,

(10:42):
but I do think those two things are are really
important about the voter base that does not exist now
or does exist now that did not back when we
voted for the dome in the Frost Bank Center. We'll
talk more about this as we can through the rest
of the day. I've got some thoughts on this SEC decision,
and more Project Marvel stuff and what's going on there.

(11:05):
Craigway coming up in about forty minutes. It's the Andy
Everett Show. On the tickets.
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