July 31, 2025 • 13 mins
Terry McLaurin requests a trade, pressure to change the name & the need for a new stadium.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Two hours down, one to go on this Thursday. We'll
see if anybody else was added to the late trade
situation in baseball Commanders. As Shane said a little while ago,
Terry mccollin requesting a trade via Adam Schefter, maybe somebody
else will pay him. I think he probably would like
to stay there, and they're not going to trade him
(00:25):
unless they can get somebody just as good as he is.
And yes, he is pretty important to their offense, but
I don't know that. I think this is just a
ploy to try to speed up the process of trying
to get a new contract.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So while we're on the subject of the Commanders, a
week or so ago, President Trump came out and said
he wants to change the name of the Commanders back
to what they used to be, and some people, some
people didn't like that, others were okay with it. I
don't care. Everybody has their has their take, and I
(01:02):
think that there are some people, whether it's the Redskins,
the Braves, the Indians, the Seminoles, some of those names
have stayed, some of them have not. And you can
interview one hundred different people who have American Native American
heritage and you'll find half of them that think it
is to be an honor to be named and recognize
that way, and have to think that they're being moncked
(01:25):
and that their names are in some way taken in vain.
So I don't think the commanders are going back, and
they have no intention to. And some people will make
it as politically as they want. But let me give
you another reason. For those of you that wish it
was what it was so that you would still have
the same rivalries, here's the reason why they're not. It's polarizing.
(01:54):
And what happens when you have something that is polarizing
is somebody's gonna People are always going to watch you
if you're polarizing, but they're not necessarily going to patronize you.
So I'll go back to Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.
We to this day have no idea who either one
of them ever voted for an election. Neither one of
them have ever supported a candidate, neither one of them
(02:15):
has ever supported a cause. Some people have been very
critical of both of them for not taking a stand
here's what I believe in. But they're also in the
business of making money for their brands. They're also in
the business of making sure that you watch them perform
when they're on TV, and there are people that will
not watch them and will not buy their product based
(02:38):
solely on whatever they say when it comes to what
they think from a financial, from a political or social stance.
And when an athlete takes the stand, they're criticized for
the stand that they took by at least a portion
of the population, and if they don't take a stand,
they're even more so criticized because Hey, what's your thought
(02:59):
thoughts on all of this? And I think there's something
to the fact that people should look at and go
I play football, I play basketball. Why do you care
what I think? Why do you care what I believe in?
I'm not running for office. I'm not making any decisions
in your life that are going to affect you even
anymore than whether or not I entertain you with the
(03:20):
craft that I perform. I still to this day, if
I'm watching flipping through the golf channel and there's Tiger
Woods highlights on, I'm stopping. I never get tired of
watching a Tiger Woods highlight. I rarely get tired of
watching a Michael Jordan highlight or a Kobe Bryant highlight.
If you're a great player, I love watching greatness and
I don't care what your political or social beliefs are.
(03:43):
So along these same lines, the commanders are in a
position that they need to build a new stadium with
public funds. They need to sell tickets, they need to
sell their merchandise, they need to sell their brand, and
they need to be to make money. And anytime that
you put yourself anywhere outside the middle of the road,
you're going to be subject to a certain group of
(04:05):
people saying we're no longer going to sponsor support you
or patronize you. And I think it's incredibly important for
teams that for ownership teams, for businesses to stay and
I use this term politically agnostic and socially agnostic as
they possibly can. And it's why the PGA tour left
(04:28):
Durrell a few years ago. It wasn't anything to do
with Drell other than the fact that Donald Trump bought it.
And if Donald Trump owned something where something public is
being played, we are so divided as a society that
there's going to be people that are protesting it. We
saw this two weeks ago when the question was asked
about returning to Turnberry for the Open Championship, and the
(04:50):
RNA isn't concerned that Turnberry could not host a great tournament.
I've played Turnberry. It's a fabulous golf course. But the
fact that it's owned by somebody that a good percentage
of people don't like. Those people are going to protest
the event, and it's not going to be about who's
the champion golfer of the world. The news stories are
(05:12):
going to be about the protest. And so as the
Commanders enter into a new stadium back in Washington, DC
at some point, and as they move forward with their
business dealings every day, and they walk into a business
and say, hey, we'd like for you to sponsor us.
We want to put your logo on our billboards, we
want to put your signage in our program ads. We
(05:35):
want you to buy radio ads on our broadcast and
TV ads on our preseason games, and we want you
to sponsor a coaches show. And here's the price. There's
likely going to be somebody there that says, I'm not
going to do this because you're still the old name,
or you went back to the old name, and they
don't want to cross that bridge, And the only reason
that somebody would make that decision as a business decision
(05:58):
is because now they've got to answer to the people
that buy their product. You advertise, or you buy a product,
or you want signage in the stadium. So the seventy
five thousand that show up see your ad for whatever
it is that you have and call you up and
buy your product. Well, if you are sponsoring them, and
(06:18):
you're sponsoring something that they don't like, then they're less
likely to patronize you as the sponsor. It trickles all
the way down, and so it's not necessarily a stance
based on whether what the name of the team should be.
It's a stance based on what we think is the
best opportunity for us to make the most amount of money.
And if we don't ever have to ask the question
(06:41):
why are you naming your team this as opposed to
what you have now or what it was, then you
have a better chance of walking into somebody and making
sure that you get the revenue you need from sponsorships
and ticket sales than if you have a polarizing situation
with your team name taking away.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
There's the business aspect for a seon modern athletes, especially
the young modern athletes, have been given the burden or responsibility,
whatever you want to call it, of social and political
responsibility because athletes now not that far in the past,
like some of them still play, they were the ones
who were the first to really take up causes, to
be vocal with their causes. And now it's the assumption
(07:19):
that anyone who's famous and one that has a platform,
regardless of the market that they're in, needs to have
some sort of stance and everything that it goes about
them because the pet the fans, the people they want
to know, they're investing their time and their money into
what they perceive to be a good person. And they
and these people, whether you like it or not, Andy,
they do care about how who you are behind behind
the behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well yeah they do. But that's why the smart athlete,
the smart movie star. If you say nothing and you
keep that quiet, then they still they still buy your product,
They still go to your movies, they still go to
your games. When you take a dance. Uh, there's some
there's people that are critical of Lebron James yep because
(08:04):
he has taken a political stance or a social stance
on things and some people think, why are you It's
not the fact that he took the stance. Everybody's good
to have your own opinion, but you play basketball, at
least in the minds of some. And that's the the
the alpha and the omega as to how I am
going to be be with your product. I'm not voting
(08:27):
for you for office. You're not gonna be my morality police.
I just want to watch you play basketball because you're
really good at it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm gonna tell this into this real quick because you
mentioned before in the last segment that Lebron his ultimate
desires to be liked almost universally, right, like, just on
a basic level. Lebron started to become a lot more
social and politically active around the time Colin Kaepernick began
his protests. That was around the time that he became
a lot more vocal, a lot more like formal with it.
(08:56):
He was before then. He was kind of quiet with
how he believed a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
When he was younger too, and he didn't know where
where the line was as to what he can say.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And that's the burden of being a being a public figure,
is that, like if you are someone who takes a stand.
The unfortunate fact of that is that you cannot back off,
and you also can't not take a stand anywhere else
you were either all in or not because you have
you have the fame of someone like Lebron James. If
you're someone like like towards the end of the bench
like you can have a cause and people might forget
about it. But if you're if you're a public figure,
(09:24):
you're a world renowned public figure. If you take a
stand on one thing, the concept is you have to
take a stand on everything, and you can't just back
out of one thing.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I want to talk about this cause, but been someone
question about another one.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
But I do think if you want to go the
Tiger Michael route, you're not gonna be even if you're
overly criticized for it. You are and you have the
right to not tell people. That's fine what your plans are.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And that's fine too, just because at the very least
you are saying that, yes, I have my own beliefs,
but I also don't want that to be out there
and open like that is your own personal decision to
do that. Patrick mahomes perfect example. He does not talk
about his social and ploy.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Absolutely not everybody wants to. He wants everybody to buy
a state farm and whatever else he's bitching.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And and honestly, his family gives him enough, gives him
enough public criticism as is that he kind of has to, like,
you know, play damage control for them. So he's very
quiet about what he believes and what he signs onto.
So and just in that regard alone, he has he
has a secondary burden on top of like what would
be his own if he were to go outside his
normally kind of candorus attitude.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, I I don't. I don't care if you do
want to put your beliefs out there for the world
to see, But I also don't care if you don't.
And I think that Tiger and Michael set the stage
for this because athletes had its stances in the sixties
and seventies and eighties and nineties, but we didn't have
(10:45):
social media, so it did some of it didn't go viral,
And if you weren't a sports fan, you probably had
no idea what Magic or Kareem's or Bill Walton or
anybody else's takes were. You just knew that they maybe
do this or they did that, but they would unless
they told you you never knew who they voted for.
They don't care. But now that we're in a certainly
a much broader mass media and social media, everything is
(11:08):
there's a picture of everything. Ever, there's a camera on everybody,
there's facial recognition software everywhere. You're just not going to
sometimes put your your thoughts and beliefs out there. And
I think that's what the Commanders are trying to avoid.
If they were to switch back and they walked into
a company and said, hey, we want, you know, fifty
thousand dollars a year, a million dollars a year to
(11:28):
sponsor this, is there something that's going to prevent that
company from doing based on the polarization of a name.
And so that's why it's what it is, and I
think that needs to be I don't think that the
Commanders are ever going to go back. And now that
they've got the ownership group that they do, they've cleaned
(11:49):
up the mess that Daniel Sider had in the front office,
with the toxic work environment that they had, and it's
becoming a much better place for people to be a
part of and.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Work since around the subject of the Commanders, and we
already we already saw the news that Tim mcluhn has
formally requested the trade. I have an early prediction. I
know exactly where he's gonna land.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Where's that?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, so first things first, let's go ahead and the
elminit all the NFC teams, Okay, don't don't even think
about that. He's gonna go to the AFC. Then you
have to look at what teams have cap space, what
teams have a young quarterback, and what teams have or
a not eve young corporate, just a quarterback that can
take into the playoffs, and what teams don't have a
number one receiver. Striculated down to that, there is a
team in the AFC that has a new quarterback. It
(12:28):
has a new head coach, has a new running game,
it has a built every belt offensive line. But all
they need is a true number one receiver. And that
is the Lost Vegas Raiders. Right now. Their top receiver
is Jacobe Myers, who is aren't just under ten million
dollars a year. It brock Bauers. Their tight end is
the number one receiver. Terry McLaurin is going to be
a Raider. That's my prediction, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I got and I'm sure he fit in perfectly with
what Pete Carroll wants to do.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And uh, you have any predictions you don't want to
throw out there.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think he's gonna stay with the Commanders because I
think the Commanders are going to eventually. They're just making
him sweat it out right now.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I want some chaos. I want I want. I'm here
for all the chaos, especially gif effects Washington because as
a Cowboys fan, as respectful or disrespectful as you want
to be about them, I want them to lose.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
All Right, we'll see. I think the I think the
Commanders are there. To me, I'm probably going to pick
the Commanders to win the Super Bowl. That's how That's
how high I am on that team. I think they're
they're going to be a top four team. I think
they're one of the top four teams, top four team
NFL or NFC. NFL. Okay, they're they're they're NFC championship material.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I need to I need to clip that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, keep that safe. First February A mic, all right,
we got more coming up down the ticket
Two hours down, one to go on this Thursday. We'll
see if anybody else was added to the late trade
situation in baseball Commanders. As Shane said a little while ago,
Terry mccollin requesting a trade via Adam Schefter, maybe somebody
else will pay him. I think he probably would like
to stay there, and they're not going to trade him
(00:25):
unless they can get somebody just as good as he is.
And yes, he is pretty important to their offense, but
I don't know that. I think this is just a
ploy to try to speed up the process of trying
to get a new contract.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So while we're on the subject of the Commanders, a
week or so ago, President Trump came out and said
he wants to change the name of the Commanders back
to what they used to be, and some people, some
people didn't like that, others were okay with it. I
don't care. Everybody has their has their take, and I
(01:02):
think that there are some people, whether it's the Redskins,
the Braves, the Indians, the Seminoles, some of those names
have stayed, some of them have not. And you can
interview one hundred different people who have American Native American
heritage and you'll find half of them that think it
is to be an honor to be named and recognize
that way, and have to think that they're being moncked
(01:25):
and that their names are in some way taken in vain.
So I don't think the commanders are going back, and
they have no intention to. And some people will make
it as politically as they want. But let me give
you another reason. For those of you that wish it
was what it was so that you would still have
the same rivalries, here's the reason why they're not. It's polarizing.
(01:54):
And what happens when you have something that is polarizing
is somebody's gonna People are always going to watch you
if you're polarizing, but they're not necessarily going to patronize you.
So I'll go back to Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.
We to this day have no idea who either one
of them ever voted for an election. Neither one of
them have ever supported a candidate, neither one of them
(02:15):
has ever supported a cause. Some people have been very
critical of both of them for not taking a stand
here's what I believe in. But they're also in the
business of making money for their brands. They're also in
the business of making sure that you watch them perform
when they're on TV, and there are people that will
not watch them and will not buy their product based
(02:38):
solely on whatever they say when it comes to what
they think from a financial, from a political or social stance.
And when an athlete takes the stand, they're criticized for
the stand that they took by at least a portion
of the population, and if they don't take a stand,
they're even more so criticized because Hey, what's your thought
(02:59):
thoughts on all of this? And I think there's something
to the fact that people should look at and go
I play football, I play basketball. Why do you care
what I think? Why do you care what I believe in?
I'm not running for office. I'm not making any decisions
in your life that are going to affect you even
anymore than whether or not I entertain you with the
(03:20):
craft that I perform. I still to this day, if
I'm watching flipping through the golf channel and there's Tiger
Woods highlights on, I'm stopping. I never get tired of
watching a Tiger Woods highlight. I rarely get tired of
watching a Michael Jordan highlight or a Kobe Bryant highlight.
If you're a great player, I love watching greatness and
I don't care what your political or social beliefs are.
(03:43):
So along these same lines, the commanders are in a
position that they need to build a new stadium with
public funds. They need to sell tickets, they need to
sell their merchandise, they need to sell their brand, and
they need to be to make money. And anytime that
you put yourself anywhere outside the middle of the road,
you're going to be subject to a certain group of
(04:05):
people saying we're no longer going to sponsor support you
or patronize you. And I think it's incredibly important for
teams that for ownership teams, for businesses to stay and
I use this term politically agnostic and socially agnostic as
they possibly can. And it's why the PGA tour left
(04:28):
Durrell a few years ago. It wasn't anything to do
with Drell other than the fact that Donald Trump bought it.
And if Donald Trump owned something where something public is
being played, we are so divided as a society that
there's going to be people that are protesting it. We
saw this two weeks ago when the question was asked
about returning to Turnberry for the Open Championship, and the
(04:50):
RNA isn't concerned that Turnberry could not host a great tournament.
I've played Turnberry. It's a fabulous golf course. But the
fact that it's owned by somebody that a good percentage
of people don't like. Those people are going to protest
the event, and it's not going to be about who's
the champion golfer of the world. The news stories are
(05:12):
going to be about the protest. And so as the
Commanders enter into a new stadium back in Washington, DC
at some point, and as they move forward with their
business dealings every day, and they walk into a business
and say, hey, we'd like for you to sponsor us.
We want to put your logo on our billboards, we
want to put your signage in our program ads. We
(05:35):
want you to buy radio ads on our broadcast and
TV ads on our preseason games, and we want you
to sponsor a coaches show. And here's the price. There's
likely going to be somebody there that says, I'm not
going to do this because you're still the old name,
or you went back to the old name, and they
don't want to cross that bridge, And the only reason
that somebody would make that decision as a business decision
(05:58):
is because now they've got to answer to the people
that buy their product. You advertise, or you buy a product,
or you want signage in the stadium. So the seventy
five thousand that show up see your ad for whatever
it is that you have and call you up and
buy your product. Well, if you are sponsoring them, and
(06:18):
you're sponsoring something that they don't like, then they're less
likely to patronize you as the sponsor. It trickles all
the way down, and so it's not necessarily a stance
based on whether what the name of the team should be.
It's a stance based on what we think is the
best opportunity for us to make the most amount of money.
And if we don't ever have to ask the question
(06:41):
why are you naming your team this as opposed to
what you have now or what it was, then you
have a better chance of walking into somebody and making
sure that you get the revenue you need from sponsorships
and ticket sales than if you have a polarizing situation
with your team name taking away.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
There's the business aspect for a seon modern athletes, especially
the young modern athletes, have been given the burden or responsibility,
whatever you want to call it, of social and political
responsibility because athletes now not that far in the past,
like some of them still play, they were the ones
who were the first to really take up causes, to
be vocal with their causes. And now it's the assumption
(07:19):
that anyone who's famous and one that has a platform,
regardless of the market that they're in, needs to have
some sort of stance and everything that it goes about
them because the pet the fans, the people they want
to know, they're investing their time and their money into
what they perceive to be a good person. And they
and these people, whether you like it or not, Andy,
they do care about how who you are behind behind
the behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well yeah they do. But that's why the smart athlete,
the smart movie star. If you say nothing and you
keep that quiet, then they still they still buy your product,
They still go to your movies, they still go to
your games. When you take a dance. Uh, there's some
there's people that are critical of Lebron James yep because
(08:04):
he has taken a political stance or a social stance
on things and some people think, why are you It's
not the fact that he took the stance. Everybody's good
to have your own opinion, but you play basketball, at
least in the minds of some. And that's the the
the alpha and the omega as to how I am
going to be be with your product. I'm not voting
(08:27):
for you for office. You're not gonna be my morality police.
I just want to watch you play basketball because you're
really good at it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm gonna tell this into this real quick because you
mentioned before in the last segment that Lebron his ultimate
desires to be liked almost universally, right, like, just on
a basic level. Lebron started to become a lot more
social and politically active around the time Colin Kaepernick began
his protests. That was around the time that he became
a lot more vocal, a lot more like formal with it.
(08:56):
He was before then. He was kind of quiet with
how he believed a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
When he was younger too, and he didn't know where
where the line was as to what he can say.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And that's the burden of being a being a public figure,
is that, like if you are someone who takes a stand.
The unfortunate fact of that is that you cannot back off,
and you also can't not take a stand anywhere else
you were either all in or not because you have
you have the fame of someone like Lebron James. If
you're someone like like towards the end of the bench
like you can have a cause and people might forget
about it. But if you're if you're a public figure,
(09:24):
you're a world renowned public figure. If you take a
stand on one thing, the concept is you have to
take a stand on everything, and you can't just back
out of one thing.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I want to talk about this cause, but been someone
question about another one.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
But I do think if you want to go the
Tiger Michael route, you're not gonna be even if you're
overly criticized for it. You are and you have the
right to not tell people. That's fine what your plans are.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And that's fine too, just because at the very least
you are saying that, yes, I have my own beliefs,
but I also don't want that to be out there
and open like that is your own personal decision to
do that. Patrick mahomes perfect example. He does not talk
about his social and ploy.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Absolutely not everybody wants to. He wants everybody to buy
a state farm and whatever else he's bitching.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And and honestly, his family gives him enough, gives him
enough public criticism as is that he kind of has to, like,
you know, play damage control for them. So he's very
quiet about what he believes and what he signs onto.
So and just in that regard alone, he has he
has a secondary burden on top of like what would
be his own if he were to go outside his
normally kind of candorus attitude.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, I I don't. I don't care if you do
want to put your beliefs out there for the world
to see, But I also don't care if you don't.
And I think that Tiger and Michael set the stage
for this because athletes had its stances in the sixties
and seventies and eighties and nineties, but we didn't have
(10:45):
social media, so it did some of it didn't go viral,
And if you weren't a sports fan, you probably had
no idea what Magic or Kareem's or Bill Walton or
anybody else's takes were. You just knew that they maybe
do this or they did that, but they would unless
they told you you never knew who they voted for.
They don't care. But now that we're in a certainly
a much broader mass media and social media, everything is
(11:08):
there's a picture of everything. Ever, there's a camera on everybody,
there's facial recognition software everywhere. You're just not going to
sometimes put your your thoughts and beliefs out there. And
I think that's what the Commanders are trying to avoid.
If they were to switch back and they walked into
a company and said, hey, we want, you know, fifty
thousand dollars a year, a million dollars a year to
(11:28):
sponsor this, is there something that's going to prevent that
company from doing based on the polarization of a name.
And so that's why it's what it is, and I
think that needs to be I don't think that the
Commanders are ever going to go back. And now that
they've got the ownership group that they do, they've cleaned
(11:49):
up the mess that Daniel Sider had in the front office,
with the toxic work environment that they had, and it's
becoming a much better place for people to be a
part of and.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Work since around the subject of the Commanders, and we
already we already saw the news that Tim mcluhn has
formally requested the trade. I have an early prediction. I
know exactly where he's gonna land.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Where's that?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, so first things first, let's go ahead and the
elminit all the NFC teams, Okay, don't don't even think
about that. He's gonna go to the AFC. Then you
have to look at what teams have cap space, what
teams have a young quarterback, and what teams have or
a not eve young corporate, just a quarterback that can
take into the playoffs, and what teams don't have a
number one receiver. Striculated down to that, there is a
team in the AFC that has a new quarterback. It
(12:28):
has a new head coach, has a new running game,
it has a built every belt offensive line. But all
they need is a true number one receiver. And that
is the Lost Vegas Raiders. Right now. Their top receiver
is Jacobe Myers, who is aren't just under ten million
dollars a year. It brock Bauers. Their tight end is
the number one receiver. Terry McLaurin is going to be
a Raider. That's my prediction, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I got and I'm sure he fit in perfectly with
what Pete Carroll wants to do.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And uh, you have any predictions you don't want to
throw out there.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think he's gonna stay with the Commanders because I
think the Commanders are going to eventually. They're just making
him sweat it out right now.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I want some chaos. I want I want. I'm here
for all the chaos, especially gif effects Washington because as
a Cowboys fan, as respectful or disrespectful as you want
to be about them, I want them to lose.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
All Right, we'll see. I think the I think the
Commanders are there. To me, I'm probably going to pick
the Commanders to win the Super Bowl. That's how That's
how high I am on that team. I think they're
they're going to be a top four team. I think
they're one of the top four teams, top four team
NFL or NFC. NFL. Okay, they're they're they're NFC championship material.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I need to I need to clip that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, keep that safe. First February A mic, all right,
we got more coming up down the ticket
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