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Speaker 1 (00:08):
We got Oklahoma City rolling last night, as I expected
that they would have. You brought up an interesting question.
Yan Yokicha fouled out in the third quarter last night. Yeah,
kind of mailed in after that. Yep. So when is
it okay to wave the white flag in a playoff game?
If I was Denver, I would have just said, can
(00:28):
we just go home now? At halftime that game was
over with early and often obviously you have to go
out and play. But I do think there are times
where once you're very rarely are you going to come
from more than thirty down in a game if it's
really early in the first quarter. I think Oklahoma City
and there was one of the in their first round playoffs,
(00:49):
they were down twenty nine. I think it was sixty
forty nine, seventy to forty nine, was it. There's seventy
to forty one, something like that against.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
The Grizzlies, right, Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I think it was game three, Game three maybe, Yeah,
they were down. They were down by thirty or twenty
nine at one point in the in the third quarter
and came back to win the game.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, they were down. It was game three, they were down.
Let's see that's seventy seven. So it was yeah, they
were down like twenty six. It was seventy seven to
fifty one at halftime, seventy seven sow five twenty six
and then came back in one by six.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So so if you get off to it, if you're
down by a bunch and you start the third quarter
and by about the four or five minute point of
the third quarter, okay, we did we cut it the
lead at all? We do we cut the lead at half?
They said it's thirty two at half time. Do we
get it to eighteen? All right, Now, let's keep going
a little bit longer. Maybe we'll get another runner too.
But if it's still thirty with about seven eight minutes
(01:50):
ago in the fourth quarter, it's time to mail it in.
If not Tooter than that, especially with guys like Joker
and especially with Porter, you don't want those guys to
be overly hurt or to be overly extended when the
game's out out of reach. You just want to make
sure that you you get them ready for the next
game and get ready for Denver.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Okay, So then let me ask you this, if if
the playoffs right now weren't every other day if maybe
there was a game in between, is it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Do you think that the coaching staff at.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That point maybe says, hey, we'll let it run into
the into the fourth quarter, and if we can't get
it to say, if we can't get it to twenty
by the fourth quarter, then we'll kind of wave the
white flag.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Because you straight up fouled out. It was just like
he was done.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
But I don't know at that point, why do you
just not tell the coach, Hey, coach, just you know
we're done and it'll let the other Why do you
put up the facade of taking six fouls? That's my
biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I I just I would have taken Jokich out in
the third quarter, and if the rest of the guy
has made enough of a run to where it got
interesting starting the fourth quarter, then I would have put
him back in. Otherwise, I'm not gonna put my best
player out there in a thirty point deficit game, arguably
the best player in the league at one time or another.
He and Shay are gonna probably share a lot of
(03:08):
the MVP votes this year. But I would not have
done it. And I don't care who it is. I
would get the I would get out of the I'd
get my star players out reduce the risk of injury.
And if the fourth quarter I'm within fifteen or eighteen, okay,
I'll put them back in and say we can make
one last push. But if we're down, if I'm down thirty,
going under the nine minute mark, yes, that I'd pull.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The pull the plug, pull out the parachute.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So here's where the plus minus where I'm talking about,
like these ridiculous fake numbers. Jalen Williams not the starting
Jalen Williams, the other Jalen Williams. This is the Jalen
Williams from Arkansas. He was a plus sixteen, played twelve minutes,
andy three points.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I'm sorry that I that's not impactful.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Jalen Williams being on the court for twelve minutes is
not impactful. That's where plus minus. That's where Sean brings up.
He's like, just because, like just because Beno Udri back
in the day, played five minutes, scored no points, but
the Spurs went.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
On a twenty to nothing run.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He's gonna be a plus twenty, right, It's like, you know,
I'm sorry Beno was No, he.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Was not impactful. He may have been. He may have
been impactful, then they thought and then he had five turnovers?
How is he still impactful?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well because he was on the floor taking away the
concentration of another player.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Okay, sure that's yeah, yeah, not to give not to
throw shade at Beno. By the way, do you know
that a little fun fact pulled the curtain back? This
was before I started this, but Bill told me this
a long time ago. Beno Udrit is the only player
that I am aware of that has dropped an F
bomb during post game.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He's not the only player. Maybe the player for the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Ye I can I know some postgame comments from players
and not necessarily F bombs, but other words that were
not for public care.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah yeah, but that the NCC has an issue with that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
One was just very nonchalant and then was like.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, I didn't Wimby do it in a in a
press conference. No, he did it during all was it
last week?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He was explaining how Pop gets on him? Yeah, he
did it during either last year's or this year's.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
He was with the TNT guys and he's just talking YadA,
YadA YadA.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What is how does Pop yell at you? And sometimes
he looks at me and says, you know what the
money is that? YadA YadA, you know what the blank
was that? And then they all were like uh. And
then he goes, oh my bad. Yeah, I wonder if
French TV has the same same rules that we do
in America.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
All right, let's uh, let's switch gears and uh, there
got a couple other things to get to in the
next segment.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
We'll do that next. It's the Andy Everage Show. On
the ticket
We got Oklahoma City rolling last night, as I expected
that they would have. You brought up an interesting question.
Yan Yokicha fouled out in the third quarter last night. Yeah,
kind of mailed in after that. Yep. So when is
it okay to wave the white flag in a playoff game?
If I was Denver, I would have just said, can
(00:28):
we just go home now? At halftime that game was
over with early and often obviously you have to go
out and play. But I do think there are times
where once you're very rarely are you going to come
from more than thirty down in a game if it's
really early in the first quarter. I think Oklahoma City
and there was one of the in their first round playoffs,
(00:49):
they were down twenty nine. I think it was sixty
forty nine, seventy to forty nine, was it. There's seventy
to forty one, something like that against.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
The Grizzlies, right, Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I think it was game three, Game three maybe, Yeah,
they were down. They were down by thirty or twenty
nine at one point in the in the third quarter
and came back to win the game.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, they were down. It was game three, they were down.
Let's see that's seventy seven. So it was yeah, they
were down like twenty six. It was seventy seven to
fifty one at halftime, seventy seven sow five twenty six
and then came back in one by six.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So so if you get off to it, if you're
down by a bunch and you start the third quarter
and by about the four or five minute point of
the third quarter, okay, we did we cut it the
lead at all? We do we cut the lead at half?
They said it's thirty two at half time. Do we
get it to eighteen? All right, Now, let's keep going
a little bit longer. Maybe we'll get another runner too.
But if it's still thirty with about seven eight minutes
(01:50):
ago in the fourth quarter, it's time to mail it in.
If not Tooter than that, especially with guys like Joker
and especially with Porter, you don't want those guys to
be overly hurt or to be overly extended when the
game's out out of reach. You just want to make
sure that you you get them ready for the next
game and get ready for Denver.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Okay, So then let me ask you this, if if
the playoffs right now weren't every other day if maybe
there was a game in between, is it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Do you think that the coaching staff at.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That point maybe says, hey, we'll let it run into
the into the fourth quarter, and if we can't get
it to say, if we can't get it to twenty
by the fourth quarter, then we'll kind of wave the
white flag.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Because you straight up fouled out. It was just like
he was done.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
But I don't know at that point, why do you
just not tell the coach, Hey, coach, just you know
we're done and it'll let the other Why do you
put up the facade of taking six fouls? That's my
biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I I just I would have taken Jokich out in
the third quarter, and if the rest of the guy
has made enough of a run to where it got
interesting starting the fourth quarter, then I would have put
him back in. Otherwise, I'm not gonna put my best
player out there in a thirty point deficit game, arguably
the best player in the league at one time or another.
He and Shay are gonna probably share a lot of
(03:08):
the MVP votes this year. But I would not have
done it. And I don't care who it is. I
would get the I would get out of the I'd
get my star players out reduce the risk of injury.
And if the fourth quarter I'm within fifteen or eighteen, okay,
I'll put them back in and say we can make
one last push. But if we're down, if I'm down thirty,
going under the nine minute mark, yes, that I'd pull.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The pull the plug, pull out the parachute.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So here's where the plus minus where I'm talking about,
like these ridiculous fake numbers. Jalen Williams not the starting
Jalen Williams, the other Jalen Williams. This is the Jalen
Williams from Arkansas. He was a plus sixteen, played twelve minutes,
andy three points.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I'm sorry that I that's not impactful.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Jalen Williams being on the court for twelve minutes is
not impactful. That's where plus minus. That's where Sean brings up.
He's like, just because, like just because Beno Udri back
in the day, played five minutes, scored no points, but
the Spurs went.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
On a twenty to nothing run.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He's gonna be a plus twenty, right, It's like, you know,
I'm sorry Beno was No, he.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Was not impactful. He may have been. He may have
been impactful, then they thought and then he had five turnovers?
How is he still impactful?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well because he was on the floor taking away the
concentration of another player.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Okay, sure that's yeah, yeah, not to give not to
throw shade at Beno. By the way, do you know
that a little fun fact pulled the curtain back? This
was before I started this, but Bill told me this
a long time ago. Beno Udrit is the only player
that I am aware of that has dropped an F
bomb during post game.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He's not the only player. Maybe the player for the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Ye I can I know some postgame comments from players
and not necessarily F bombs, but other words that were
not for public care.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah yeah, but that the NCC has an issue with that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
One was just very nonchalant and then was like.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, I didn't Wimby do it in a in a
press conference. No, he did it during all was it
last week?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He was explaining how Pop gets on him? Yeah, he
did it during either last year's or this year's.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
He was with the TNT guys and he's just talking YadA,
YadA YadA.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What is how does Pop yell at you? And sometimes
he looks at me and says, you know what the
money is that? YadA YadA, you know what the blank
was that? And then they all were like uh. And
then he goes, oh my bad. Yeah, I wonder if
French TV has the same same rules that we do
in America.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
All right, let's uh, let's switch gears and uh, there
got a couple other things to get to in the
next segment.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
We'll do that next. It's the Andy Everage Show. On
the ticket
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