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April 29, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Thank you for making us part of your day today.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Is we navigate through the sports topics of the day
on this Tuesday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Some NBA loser talk coming up in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Who are those one of those teams that are now
out of the playoffs going to go and do? Coming up,
we'll talk about the NBA All Star Game and some
replay rules.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
All right.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I was driving around today and I heard Dan Patrick
talking about this, and I'm not pretty. I'm not It's
kind of creepy if you want to kind of get
right down to it. Basically, Rob Manfred has had some
issues or concerns, I should say, about the future of

(00:48):
current and soon to be new and even retired players
from Venezuela and Cuba in the United States. And do
the immigration policies that we now have in place, how
do they affect them?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm assuming that every player who's playing baseball has a
work visa. And I've always said that managers and general
managers and owners of teams don't care where you come
from as long as you can play. And thank goodness,
we live in that era instead of the era that
we did sixty seventy ninety years ago, when African American
players were banned, and you didn't have any international type

(01:28):
of presence. And we know that baseball in the Latin
American countries is certainly it's still their pastime because they
play soccer, not American football, and very few of them
play much basketball. Venezuela does a little bit, but none
of the other countries really do. This is baseball. This
is their sport. They love it and they're really good

(01:49):
at it. Venezuela and Cuba are obviously countries that are
not necessarily friendly to US interests. Most of the other
Caribbean countries are, and Latin American countries are so Rob
Manford apparently went to Washington not too long ago and
had to sit down with President and said, Hey, what's
going to happen with all these players that I have
from Venezuela and Cuba. Are they going to have any

(02:11):
issues going home if they're injured and coming back? Are
they going to be able to leave the country peacefully?
Are they going to be able to come back in
just wanted to go through everything, and apparently at some
point during that conversation, which sounded like they're either let's
make a deal or blackmail whichever way you want to.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Look at it.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
It was and this is what dan Patrick said, So
I'm just going by his report. Is that Trump said,
I don't think you have much to worry about, although
I do have something i'd like from you. I'd like
for you to take Pete Rose off the suspended list. Now,
the Pete Rose suspended list is a lifetime band. You
are suspended from all baseball activities with clubs for the lifetime.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
And they've kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Made a few exceptions because they let him have like
a Pete Rose Day at whatever the stadium has called
in Cincinnati these days, all American Ballpark, I think, And
so you know they've done that. But as far as
official baseball records, are not records, but official baseball activities

(03:14):
can't do that. And you're not eligible for the Hall
of Fame because you're on the suspended list. So they
need to go back and figure out whether the language
and that suspension is is it a lifetime band, which
would mean Pete Rose's life is over, so the suspension
would be over. Or is it a permanent band, which
would say it's permanent no matter whether he's around or not.

(03:34):
And to have a family member if he were ever
to be elected into the Hall of Fame, be the
one that would do would do the speech on his enshrinement.
There's a lot of people that think Pete Rose should
be in the Hall of Fame and that he should
be forgiven for his gambling debts, and I would I
would not lose sleep over it if that happened. But

(03:55):
the problem I have with Pete Rose is he never
was contrite about it. I remember he did speaking engagement
here a few springs ago when the Rangers and we're
playing a couple of baseball games in the Alamodome, some
exhibition baseball games, and he was hilarious. He was the
He and Nolan Ryan and I think Richard Oliver m

(04:16):
seed it and Pete Rose was hilarious. He had people laughing,
he was funny, he was engaging. You can see why
you would be the best, the best teammate ever. But
he'd go, oh, you're playing Boston tomorrow night. Yeah they're
pretty good. Yeah I take the Spurs, but I'd laid
the five and then just just kind of it was
one gambling story after another. He was finally at the
point where he had admitted to doing all the gambling

(04:37):
that he was doing, and he wasn't a very good gambler.
But the fact that for pretty much twenty years he
swore he never bet on baseball and then finally came out.
I've always thought that if Pete Rose had said immediately
to Barte gim Motti, yep, I screwed up. I bet
them on the Reds. I never bet on them to lose.
I always bet on them to win. I bet one
hundred and sixty two games. I'm sorry, I'll the press conference,

(05:00):
I'll resign from baseball, and I'll take whatever punishment I
have in this country. Even though the rules were, say
your lifetime ban. I think if he would have shown
immediate sorrow and contrition and corrected his ways, there would
have been an avenue back. But for twenty years he'd
lied about what we all knew wasn't true. His lives

(05:21):
were just that, And so like I said, I'm not
going to loose leap if he ever gets in the
Hall of Fame. But before he can even get in
the Hall of Fame, he has to be taken off
the permanently banned list. But I don't I couldn't tell
whether Dan Patrick was insinuating that, yeah, you won't have
any problem with your Latin American players as long as
I get Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame or

(05:43):
at least off the suspended list. Because there's another hurdle
that I assure this group of people doesn't care one
way or the other what the president thinks for anybody else,
and that's the Baseball Writers' Association of America, because they're
the ones that have to vote on the Hall of Fame,
and they're the ones that have to have seventy five
out of how seventy five percent of their of their

(06:04):
committee to vote yes for Pete to go to the
Hall of Fame. And I would imagine that if they're
not going to vote for Bonds and Clemens and Ramirez
and Andy Pettitt and a Rod and those guys because
of the alleged or proven steroid use, they're not going
to vote for the gambler of a lifetime. And if

(06:24):
he does get off the band list, does that mean
she list Joe Jackson gets off and the other seven
in the in the the White Sox scandal from nineteen
nineteen and anybody else that was ever implicated with gambling issues,
do they get reinstated, lots of things here, but I
still don't think that necessarily gets rows in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, that's such a it's such a weird thing to
I'm not gonna say, I don't even want to say
the word. It's a weird thing to stand on for him.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
And well, the fact that Dan Patrick basically said today, yeah,
you won't have any problem with Latin American players in
their immigration if Pete Rose is not gets unsuspended. I
think that's a stretch for anybody. I think that's not
necessarily the right way to go about anything.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, and I mean you and I were talking before
the show.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I highly doubt.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
That anybody in m L in the MLB is secretly
hiding players or forged No.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I don't either.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, but they're not American citizens. And if you're going
to come to the United States you do have some
of those some of those countries, you have to be
on the work if you're working here, you have to
be on a work visa, and especially if you're somebody
can you I don't even know where some of the
players are from, but let's say somebody's making.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Let's go he's from Japan.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Pretend he's from Venezuela and he's and he's making seven
hundred million dollars Are you letting him in or not?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But not even that, because I mean he is in
and I'm assuming he's a he has a work visa
because he's not a legal citizen here yet he.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Can apply for citizenship and I don't know that he
is or will.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
But so it's like the only thing I could think
of is like the Boys in the Desert or somebody
is like, hey, Trump, I don't know if you're a
Dodgers fan.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
But I don't know what he is, a Yankees fan.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Whatever, here's one Maybe this is his way of trying
to screw the Dodgers Loan Soto.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's not an American citizen.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
He's from the Dominican Dominican Republic. He's a Dominican citizen,
and he plays baseball in the United States.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
And he's and he plays for the Mets. You know,
maybe maybe Trump's a Yankees fan.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Maybe this is this is maybe this is his way
of trying to balance out.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
It's such a weird. It's such a weird.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I I think Rob Manfer was specifically concerned about Venezuela
and Cuba because they're communist countries that are very heavily
socialist countries.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
However, you want to look.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
At it, uh and and they we restrict travel there,
and we restrict visitors who come from there. And somebody's
on an airplane from Caracas to Miami and it happens
to be a baseball player and he's at the gate
and they turn him away. Or how's that going to
affect the player that's either on a rehab assignment or

(09:17):
was injured and goes home for a couple of months
or goes home for the birth of a child or
whatever it is, and needs to get back obviously, though
I guess the work visa would preclude.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
A lot of things.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
But it was kind of an eerie conversation that Dan
was having with the dan Ettes today as to what
lines politicians should cross. But when Trump wants something done,
he's usually steadfast and getting it done. And I think everybody,
I think not every I think there's a lot of
people that really want Pete Rose to be enshrine in

(09:48):
the Hall of Fame. To me, it's kind of like,
who cares now that he's no longer here? You wouldn't
give him the opportunity to do it while he was alive.
Why are you going to do it when he's passing.
A lot of people don't want the posthumous the posh
shiss rewards.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Get them in while they're alive. Let them have their
moment of glory or dn't or not. Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
And there's a lot of people that that are now
in the Hall of Fame that got in there posthumously
because nobody voted for them when they played and they
realized that, hey, this is the Veterans Committee or somebody said, yeah,
this is a this is a good thing for.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
You to uh, for you to put these guys in.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
But uh, that that seems creepy to me, when if
anything that Dan Patrick said today was accurate at all.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, yeah, that's well, I mean whether obviously there's a
lot of people that don't agree with them, there's people
that do, and you and I, you know, we try
to stick away from that. But it's just that's one
thing where I'm just like, I don't I don't understand.
It's just just run the country. Don't worry about baseball, man.
We don't need to worry about baseball unless you've got

(10:51):
a tip from somebody who's whistleblowing that's saying, yeah, you
know Juan Soto or whoever is secretly in this country
illegally than it's like.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
But I don't think any of them are. And I
don't either.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I don't either, But I think I think, I think
it's it's a weird.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Thing to stand.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
But like baseball scouts go to Central America and recruit
high school players, and the younger the better because they
have a longer shelf life and they can get them
on the cheap, and they can get them into into
minor league systems, and they can develop them for five
or six years, and they're all free agents after the draft.
And it's players that you've never heard of that end
up being great players. The the all those Dominican countries,

(11:32):
they play baseball every day, three hundred and sixty five
days a year, and there a lot of them are
really really good players.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
The guy Puige, Yasiel peg was Weige was from.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Was from Cuba.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
There's a lot of Cuban born players that defected from
Cuba Dominican pools. I think is Dominican, like Tony Perez
I think was from from Cuba and uh luis ti
On who pitched for the Red Sox and the Seven.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
He's the early eighties. What was was from Cuba? Is
this is gonna sound stupid. Is Mariano American?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Uh No, he's a he's well, I don't know if
he's an American citizen or not.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, but he's not from the United States.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right, Well again, I just it's such a weird
thing to I guess flex your power or he has he.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Has become a natural Marianna became a naturalized US citizen
in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
But he was born in Panama, Panama. That's that's in
Central America. Okay, thank you. Yeah, it's where the Panama
Canal is.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
See plus student, see plus student.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
He's central. Let's go to learn a map. I mean,
that's not hard. There's nowhere I've gotten radio for one,
not to know. I don't have to worry about math.
I don't have to learn about math maps. You don't
have to worry about any of those. Know where you're at,
you know where your feet are standing.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I just need to know how to talk, and I
do that well, which is hilarious because I have a
I guess fear of speaking.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I can't do as you're talking to and everybody else
is just out there. It's not different talking into microphone
than it is in front of an audience.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Just you and men. There's nobody listening, right, just you
and me and.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Over whole thousand of our best friends, people in Kenya
and Turkey and wherever they are, will take them all.
There's no listener. That's not important. All right, anyway, that's
what is going on today. And when I heard, I
mean he didn't come out and say it, but Dan
Patrick was really close to the line that, yeah, you're
going to have some problems if we don't get Pete
Rose in the Hall of Fame soon.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
And I don't think that's the way to go either.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't care if Pete Rose gets in the Hall
of Fame, if the Baseball writers want to put him in,
and if Baseball wants to reinstate him. But I understand
why he's not, and I'm okay with that too, because
he really never apologized, he never really took a responsibility
for the things that he did. All right, let's talk
about what happens if the Bucks end up losing the
same for the Rockets, and a few other teams that

(13:53):
are on the verge of going fishing.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's coming up. It's five point fifteen on the ticket.
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