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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Ashton Genty is in the Raiders camp right now, and
Chip Kelly does not like the way that he plays
running back because when at Boise, he did not get
back into a well referred to as a stance, the
running back stance or a football football stance. They're comparing
(00:27):
him to a scarecrow. They compared him to Mike Myers. Yeah,
that's not a scarecrow. Well, they had a picture of
a scarecrow in the in the meme that I saw.
Mike Myers was in what I didn't watch it, Sorry
I missed that show. So one of your creepy, scary
horror shows. Yeah, but Mike Myers, I've seen him compared
(00:47):
to a scarecrow and other things. And so if you
ever see, if you can google this and see a video,
he just basically stands up straight and then when the
plays run, he's ready to get into position. Well, Chip
Kelly thinks it would be better if he got back
into let's say, a defensive stance, like for if you're
guarding somebody in basketball, basically hands on your hips or
your knees and kind of bent over at the waist
(01:08):
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A chair stands basically and.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's what he wants him to do, So we'll we'll
see if Ashton genty can do it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Of the opinion, Hey.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
If this works for you, let's try it till it
does it well.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But I'm of the opinion and the nature of.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Your five foot eight, five foot nine, let's crouch a
little bit more so you are hidden behind your offensive
lineman and then that way the safeties and linebackers can't
see you as easy instead of you just standing straight up.
And when you're already in a more of a crouch position,
(01:44):
you're basically at that point ready to go. It's one
foot gone, whereas if you're standing straight up, it takes
a little bit more because then you have.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
To you have to duck that anywhere to duck down anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So all right, let's get back to basketball, because we
were looking at the next the next phase. Shane texted
me during the break and said, comparing Cooper Flag, how
about Carmelo Anthony. Offensively, maybe a little bit, but I
think Carmelo Anthony was more of a shooter.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He didn't and a penetrator.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He didn't play a lot of defense, and he shot
at a hundred million times a game. I think Cooper
Flag is a better teammate.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I would agree. I just I also I think.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Carmelo is really underrated as a player. He just played
on terrible teams most of his career.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He played well. Yeah, he played with Denver and they
were well, the Denver team was okay.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But when he when he was in New York, those
teams were that was Carmelo's shooting at five hundred times
and seeing what they could do. But he but he
played have Iverson on the Denver team or was that after?
Was that that was Iverson and Carmelo were together in Denver?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I believe so.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I believe he also had I think Chaunty billups
as well, okay or not Chauntony billips Andre Miller and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I liked Andre Miller. Andre Miller was a good distributor,
Utah guy. Yeah. Now I'm a jeris I just I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'm just gonna say Cooper Flag is Cooper Flag for now.
He is for sure to anybody, because I just I
can't think of anybody that he reminds me of.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I really can't.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, And that's not a negative, but it's also not
a positive positive because.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You can't compare Wmby to anybody he says unique. Yeah, true.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I mean, if Shaq wants to compare him to ball ball,
that's Shack's the idea. But that there's a vast difference
in talent between the two.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I just at once, at some point, I would love
for Wimby to troll Shaq whenever he whether wins a
title or an MVP or whatever, and just brings up
the fact, Hey, Shack, you remember when you said that
Bowl Bowl was better than me?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
After I dropped forty and win a championship. That's when
he needs to do that trolling shot. Shaq is not
going He's gonna die on that hill. I don't know
if the Mitch Johnson led Spurs will have any different
philosophies than the Spurs did with Pop, But you know,
Tim Duncan and others could have probably led the league
in scoring if they'd have wanted that player to do that.
(04:10):
And I don't know that Winby cares whether he leads
the league in scoring or not, but whether they have
Giannis on this team or not, I think that he
could if they wanted him to. He's gonna be able
to get enough shots to where he can score twenty
nine to thirty two points a game, which is usually
the number that it takes to be the league scorer
in the league.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What did Shae average this year? I know he was
the league scorer.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think he was thirty three, thirty four, close to
thirty maybe less tion, I don't know, But anyway, I
just don't think that's The Spurs have never been about
one guy scoring all the points, except when the last
year that John Lucas was here and he let David
shoot it as much as as possible because that was
really the only offense.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
During the regular season. Shay was at thirty two point seven.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, So I think Wimby could do that on a
regular basis if they wanted him to. I just don't
know that they want him to. But anyway, to Boston
for a second, the Celtics are probably going to get
blown up. This goes back to the conversation of how
an easier path that is to the finals in the East.
The Brunston contract is going to allow New York to
(05:12):
be a lot more maneuverability with their roster, and if
Milwaukee doesn't keep you, honest, that's a team that's going
to struggle. I think the jury is still very much
out on my end for Philadelphia because I don't know
how many games ham Bead's going to play and how
effective he's going to be in the games that he
does play. I'm not sold that Detroit's going to be
(05:32):
much better than the sixteen where they were this year.
Maybe they're a little bit better, maybe they're not. Cleveland's
going to go back to being a really good regular
season team. Can they do that in the playoffs? They
didn't this year. We'll see if they can. Indiana is
a good young team and they're in the conference finals.
But I think if Memphis or Minnesota or New orleansin
is up in the East, they could easily be in
(05:54):
the mix as a playoff team. And that's why there's
a lot of people that are like, let's not have
any differences. Everybody. You play eighty You got twenty nine opponents.
I understand if you play them three times each, that's
twenty seven. That's eighty seven games, which they likely won't do.
But you're going to have to play some twice and
some three times, or maybe you figure out a way
to do more regional games and maybe you play some
(06:17):
of the other teams twice. However, they want to figure
out that formula, But just see the teams one through
sixteen based on overall record in the entire league.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
The only problem with that is is that when you
get to the playoffs round one, instead of it being
Dallas San Antonio or Dallas Sacramento, it's you could you
could literally have La Clippers taking on the New York
Knicks in the first round and you're playing seven games
across country when you're trying to get this series over
(06:47):
in two weeks. And so when you do that and
you put both East and West teams, it's you don't
have regional matchups that and it's not a big challenge
from a travel standpoint, except it's a five hour flight from.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Once the next Yeah, but it is.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It is a competitive advantage for teams that don't have
to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Like it.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Just use those two for instance, in the span of
two weeks, those guys could be flying a thousand one
thousand federal miles two thousand, whereas you could have a
scenario where the Spurs wind up playing Dallas for Houston.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yes, and they don't, and it's less than one hundred miles.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, if they have more than one day off, they
come home and sleep in their own bed.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
That's how close it is.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But if you look at I see, if you look
at this from this standpoint, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma City, Minnesota,
New Orleans, and Memphis, Chicago are all in the Central
time zone. When they go east and west, it's not
nearly as far of a trip as teams on the coasts.
(07:46):
When New York goes and plays their West Coast Swing
and they do a couple of those a year, it's
a five hour flight each way. When the central time zones,
they don't have as far to go. And I think
that's also an advantage for those teams in the central
time zone, is that their regular season travel is often
less than the coastal teams have.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, you know, we were talking about it the Jalen
Brunson deal where he signed that extension super early instead
of waiting a year to get the super Max. He
signed this deal in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Andy.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It was a four year, only one hundred and four
million dollar contract. That just goes to show the type
of teammate that Jalen Brunson is at Max, which is
the last year of his contract in twenty eight to
twenty nine, he has a player option for only forty
three point three.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, and I always say, it's not like he's ever
going to struggle for the rest of his life. The
only people that don't like that are the players Union.
The players Union does not like the fact that he
left money on the table. And if it was the
Baseball Union, he would not have been allowed to make
that deal because the Baseball Union would have held his
feet to the fire and said, no, you're gonna squeeze
every dime you can out of the knicks. We don't
(08:55):
care if you're competitive or not. But basketball players do
have options. Mean Toni and Mon who did that for years.
They left tons of money on the table, especially Tim
Tim with the endorsements he didn't do and the contracts
he could assigned. My guess is it's between two and
three hundred million that he left on the table in
the twenty years he played.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And he's not hurting for money.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
He's got a great lifestyle and a great life and
he can do whatever he wants. It comes down to
how much do I need to be happy? And I
would rather take a little less and be happy and
win and be consistent than to take everything the team
can potentially give me and we're out of there, either
not in the playoffs or we lose in the first round. Yeah,
all right, one more segment to go, we wrap up
the day. Next it's the Andy Everage Show on the
(09:37):
ticket
Ashton Genty is in the Raiders camp right now, and
Chip Kelly does not like the way that he plays
running back because when at Boise, he did not get
back into a well referred to as a stance, the
running back stance or a football football stance. They're comparing
(00:27):
him to a scarecrow. They compared him to Mike Myers. Yeah,
that's not a scarecrow. Well, they had a picture of
a scarecrow in the in the meme that I saw.
Mike Myers was in what I didn't watch it, Sorry
I missed that show. So one of your creepy, scary
horror shows. Yeah, but Mike Myers, I've seen him compared
(00:47):
to a scarecrow and other things. And so if you
ever see, if you can google this and see a video,
he just basically stands up straight and then when the
plays run, he's ready to get into position. Well, Chip
Kelly thinks it would be better if he got back
into let's say, a defensive stance, like for if you're
guarding somebody in basketball, basically hands on your hips or
your knees and kind of bent over at the waist
(01:08):
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A chair stands basically and.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's what he wants him to do, So we'll we'll
see if Ashton genty can do it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Of the opinion, Hey.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
If this works for you, let's try it till it
does it well.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But I'm of the opinion and the nature of.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Your five foot eight, five foot nine, let's crouch a
little bit more so you are hidden behind your offensive
lineman and then that way the safeties and linebackers can't
see you as easy instead of you just standing straight up.
And when you're already in a more of a crouch position,
(01:44):
you're basically at that point ready to go. It's one
foot gone, whereas if you're standing straight up, it takes
a little bit more because then you have.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
To you have to duck that anywhere to duck down anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So all right, let's get back to basketball, because we
were looking at the next the next phase. Shane texted
me during the break and said, comparing Cooper Flag, how
about Carmelo Anthony. Offensively, maybe a little bit, but I
think Carmelo Anthony was more of a shooter.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He didn't and a penetrator.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He didn't play a lot of defense, and he shot
at a hundred million times a game. I think Cooper
Flag is a better teammate.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I would agree. I just I also I think.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Carmelo is really underrated as a player. He just played
on terrible teams most of his career.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He played well. Yeah, he played with Denver and they
were well, the Denver team was okay.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But when he when he was in New York, those
teams were that was Carmelo's shooting at five hundred times
and seeing what they could do. But he but he
played have Iverson on the Denver team or was that after?
Was that that was Iverson and Carmelo were together in Denver?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I believe so.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I believe he also had I think Chaunty billups
as well, okay or not Chauntony billips Andre Miller and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I liked Andre Miller. Andre Miller was a good distributor,
Utah guy. Yeah. Now I'm a jeris I just I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'm just gonna say Cooper Flag is Cooper Flag for now.
He is for sure to anybody, because I just I
can't think of anybody that he reminds me of.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I really can't.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, And that's not a negative, but it's also not
a positive positive because.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You can't compare Wmby to anybody he says unique. Yeah, true.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I mean, if Shaq wants to compare him to ball ball,
that's Shack's the idea. But that there's a vast difference
in talent between the two.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I just at once, at some point, I would love
for Wimby to troll Shaq whenever he whether wins a
title or an MVP or whatever, and just brings up
the fact, Hey, Shack, you remember when you said that
Bowl Bowl was better than me?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
After I dropped forty and win a championship. That's when
he needs to do that trolling shot. Shaq is not
going He's gonna die on that hill. I don't know
if the Mitch Johnson led Spurs will have any different
philosophies than the Spurs did with Pop, But you know,
Tim Duncan and others could have probably led the league
in scoring if they'd have wanted that player to do that.
(04:10):
And I don't know that Winby cares whether he leads
the league in scoring or not, but whether they have
Giannis on this team or not, I think that he
could if they wanted him to. He's gonna be able
to get enough shots to where he can score twenty
nine to thirty two points a game, which is usually
the number that it takes to be the league scorer
in the league.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What did Shae average this year? I know he was
the league scorer.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think he was thirty three, thirty four, close to
thirty maybe less tion, I don't know, But anyway, I
just don't think that's The Spurs have never been about
one guy scoring all the points, except when the last
year that John Lucas was here and he let David
shoot it as much as as possible because that was
really the only offense.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
During the regular season. Shay was at thirty two point seven.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, So I think Wimby could do that on a
regular basis if they wanted him to. I just don't
know that they want him to. But anyway, to Boston
for a second, the Celtics are probably going to get
blown up. This goes back to the conversation of how
an easier path that is to the finals in the East.
The Brunston contract is going to allow New York to
(05:12):
be a lot more maneuverability with their roster, and if
Milwaukee doesn't keep you, honest, that's a team that's going
to struggle. I think the jury is still very much
out on my end for Philadelphia because I don't know
how many games ham Bead's going to play and how
effective he's going to be in the games that he
does play. I'm not sold that Detroit's going to be
(05:32):
much better than the sixteen where they were this year.
Maybe they're a little bit better, maybe they're not. Cleveland's
going to go back to being a really good regular
season team. Can they do that in the playoffs? They
didn't this year. We'll see if they can. Indiana is
a good young team and they're in the conference finals.
But I think if Memphis or Minnesota or New orleansin
is up in the East, they could easily be in
(05:54):
the mix as a playoff team. And that's why there's
a lot of people that are like, let's not have
any differences. Everybody. You play eighty You got twenty nine opponents.
I understand if you play them three times each, that's
twenty seven. That's eighty seven games, which they likely won't do.
But you're going to have to play some twice and
some three times, or maybe you figure out a way
to do more regional games and maybe you play some
(06:17):
of the other teams twice. However, they want to figure
out that formula, But just see the teams one through
sixteen based on overall record in the entire league.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
The only problem with that is is that when you
get to the playoffs round one, instead of it being
Dallas San Antonio or Dallas Sacramento, it's you could you
could literally have La Clippers taking on the New York
Knicks in the first round and you're playing seven games
across country when you're trying to get this series over
(06:47):
in two weeks. And so when you do that and
you put both East and West teams, it's you don't
have regional matchups that and it's not a big challenge
from a travel standpoint, except it's a five hour flight from.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Once the next Yeah, but it is.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It is a competitive advantage for teams that don't have
to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Like it.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Just use those two for instance, in the span of
two weeks, those guys could be flying a thousand one
thousand federal miles two thousand, whereas you could have a
scenario where the Spurs wind up playing Dallas for Houston.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yes, and they don't, and it's less than one hundred miles.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, if they have more than one day off, they
come home and sleep in their own bed.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
That's how close it is.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But if you look at I see, if you look
at this from this standpoint, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma City, Minnesota,
New Orleans, and Memphis, Chicago are all in the Central
time zone. When they go east and west, it's not
nearly as far of a trip as teams on the coasts.
(07:46):
When New York goes and plays their West Coast Swing
and they do a couple of those a year, it's
a five hour flight each way. When the central time zones,
they don't have as far to go. And I think
that's also an advantage for those teams in the central
time zone, is that their regular season travel is often
less than the coastal teams have.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, you know, we were talking about it the Jalen
Brunson deal where he signed that extension super early instead
of waiting a year to get the super Max. He
signed this deal in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Andy.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It was a four year, only one hundred and four
million dollar contract. That just goes to show the type
of teammate that Jalen Brunson is at Max, which is
the last year of his contract in twenty eight to
twenty nine, he has a player option for only forty
three point three.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, and I always say, it's not like he's ever
going to struggle for the rest of his life. The
only people that don't like that are the players Union.
The players Union does not like the fact that he
left money on the table. And if it was the
Baseball Union, he would not have been allowed to make
that deal because the Baseball Union would have held his
feet to the fire and said, no, you're gonna squeeze
every dime you can out of the knicks. We don't
(08:55):
care if you're competitive or not. But basketball players do
have options. Mean Toni and Mon who did that for years.
They left tons of money on the table, especially Tim
Tim with the endorsements he didn't do and the contracts
he could assigned. My guess is it's between two and
three hundred million that he left on the table in
the twenty years he played.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And he's not hurting for money.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
He's got a great lifestyle and a great life and
he can do whatever he wants. It comes down to
how much do I need to be happy? And I
would rather take a little less and be happy and
win and be consistent than to take everything the team
can potentially give me and we're out of there, either
not in the playoffs or we lose in the first round. Yeah,
all right, one more segment to go, we wrap up
the day. Next it's the Andy Everage Show on the
(09:37):
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