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December 9, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So you're okay with Alabama being the night seed and
Notre Dame being out.

Speaker 3 (00:03):
Absolutely, am.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, I would even be okay if Miami had been
out and Notre Dame had been. I think Bama's the
clear one out of that three that deserve to be in,
and then we can have the head to head argument
with Miami and Notre Dame, which I think is why
Notre Dame is out.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
All right, I'm going to bring this up a little
bit more in detail as we get later in the show.
But I heard a comment today made by Joel Klatt
on The Colin Cowhard Show, and he was discussing the
group of six teams in the CFP because two got

(00:40):
in this year in a down year for the ACC
and last year SMU had a chance and they didn't.
They got in, but they didn't win the ACC. But
there's a lot of people that are upset with the
fact that James Madison and Tulane are in the tournament.
And my take is this, They're better than half the

(01:02):
teams in the Big Ten. They're better than Michigan State, Wisconsin, Maryland, Rutgers,
better than Penn State this year, Purdue Nebraska, May Bee
Nebraska is kind of a bubble team. They're better than Maryland.
They're they're better in the in the ACC.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Go down you.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
They're better than Boston College. They're better than Syracuse. There's
so many teams in these power conferences that quote unquote
have a path to the to the CFP that because
they're so terrible and they're and their teams are not
committing to the resources to be good, that if they
somehow make it, it's okay. But because you're in a

(01:42):
less than power for a conference, it's not okay. Two lane,
I think in James medisone both are better than a
lot of the teams. I don't think they're better than
the other ten teams in the tournament, but I think
they're as good as Virginia, and Virginia would have been
in the tournament had they won. And I think they're
as good as Duke and Duke almost had a chance
to get into the tournament. So let's not discount how

(02:05):
good the CFP. The group of six teams are not
in comparison to the ten that are above them, but
of the two that could potentially replace them, now you
can say the two that could potentially replace them or
Notre Dame in Texas, and yes, Notre Dame in Texas
or Vanderbilt are all better.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
But if you look at the way that we put.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Teams into the league with automatic bids, and if we're
going to still consider that conference championships matter, then those
conference championships matter as well. And here's the take I'm
going to have on this that we'll talk more about
when we get to after Mark today. If I had
the money, or if anybody had the money that wanted
to give it away, if I walked into the race

(02:46):
building at UTSA, knocked on Lisa Compos's door and handed
her two hundred and fifty million dollars in cash much
how much better do you think Utsa's football team would
between now and next fall? Significantly as good as good
enough to beat Texas at DKR next year.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well let's not get too crazy, but.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
How about three hundred million? How much do you need?
What's the price? I bet they cover the spread? Well,
they've covered the spread the last two times they played them,
and they didn't have three hundred million. My point is
is that we're giving Indiana a pass, and people are
saying they're the best team in college football, when before
last year they were the most irrelevant college football team

(03:27):
in the history of football.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
They had the most losses all time until about week seven.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, yeah, all time, all times football. Yes they are.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That is what I'm getting at is we now live
in a different world when it comes to college football.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
If you have a fan base, and every fan.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Base has the money to do it, it's whether or
not they want to spend the money on that or not.
A couple of years ago, I was watching the news
for guys whatever the Dawn and David Chancellor do on
Sunday evenings, and Richard Oliver was on there, and I
don't I watch it sometimes now because it follows Sunday
Night football. But I remember David Chanceller saying, you know,

(04:09):
they were talking about Jeff Trailer and potentially leaving, and
he said UTSA fans, you will never ever ever be Texas.
You'll never be Texas A and M. And when he
said that two years ago, I didn't necessarily disagree with that,
because if I've got a choice to go to Texas
or Texas or UTSA and I could play, I could

(04:30):
play sixty snaps a game for Texas or eighty snaps
a game for UTSA. I'm probably choosing Texas if I'm
going to get if I'm good enough to play there.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
But if UTSA is.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Paying me more, why wouldn't I just stay home and
play at UTSA Because the money is the same, I'm
going to get more representation. And if a whole bunch
of other guys just like me now all of a sudden,
we're better. Everybody thought that that adding money to the
player pool would make the rich richer. It's made everybody
equal as long as those communities want to spend money.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
So that's where I disagree with that. It's the potential. Now.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Joel Klatt said something today about it being an anti
trust exemption thing, and we'll get into that more later.
But just because you are not a blue blood historic
program doesn't mean that you can't become one. Texas Tech
is an example in Indiana as an example.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I mean we've been talking about this for the
last few weeks. When we try to compare, you know,
what job is better than you know, if you've got
three job offers, what's the best of the three. And
I think the heritage and the tradition of these universities
is becoming less and less valuable as there's more parody

(05:41):
with the player polls, with the money being able, with
the money being thrown around.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
And as a former student athlete, you're all for getting
as much as you can.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I have always been very pro laborer, and that's exactly
what this is. I mean, the decades of the blue
blood the tradition rich schools being able to, you know,
basically insulate themselves at the top and prevent any real competition.
It's the exact opposite of capitalism, the opposite of what

(06:13):
we should want in our sport.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
It's the ultimate restraint of trade, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Even Kavanaugh agreed with me, which again that if this
long haired hippie and Brett Kavanaugh are agreeing on players
getting paid in college, you got to know there's bipartisans
well there.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
It was one thing when the rights fees for eight
hundred thousand or maybe even eight million, But when the
rights fees to the big ten or eight billion dollars
a year, somebody's making money and it's not the people
that are providing the entertainment.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Exactly until the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
All right, now, the other nonsense I've been hearing lately
is and I heard this yesterday. I was having this
conversation with Dylan and he said, what's the future of
the ballgames? Does anybody care? And I said, oh, yeah,
they care.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
And in a little bit, I'm going to go over
the reason why I don't think the Bowl games outside
of the CFP will ever die, And it basically has
to do with money. Like everything else, ESPN's making it
because you're watching it, and even though you think you're
not watching it, you're watching it. So we'll discuss that

(07:18):
coming up. The Cowboys got some help last night. The
Eagles lost or the Chargers won, whichever side you want
to look at. It hurts through another pick at the
goal line that could have given the Eagles the win,
but the Los Angeles San Diego Anaheim Chargers are able
to come through with a victory.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Man halfway through overtime last night, I was pretty certain
we were going to see a tie that could end
up being, you know, leading to an overall tie in
the un I.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Was pretty sure Philadelphia was going to figure out a
way to win, and they got close, but that didn't
quite work out. And now the Cowboys are still what
a game and a half behind with the tie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Again, And as I was watching it last night, there
was a there was majority of me wanted to just
see the Eagles win so I can put this Cowboys
playoff hopes, just push that completely out of my brain.
But Eagles left the door open. They continue and we've
seen them crash and burn about this point in the
season every other year. What they do last year they

(08:18):
won the Super Bowl. This year could be another crash
and burn.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well, I'll talk about that coming up here in a
little bit too, because the expectation for a team that
wins the Super Bowl is rarely what the outcome is.
So we'll get to that. I mentioned Mark VanderMeer will
join us. We'll talk about the Texans and their pursuit.
I think they can win the division if they can
win out and the biggest challenge is going to be
the Chargers. But they have to make sure they don't

(08:43):
stub their toe against the Cardinals, Raiders and Colts. A
Colts team that's so desperate that they're signing a forty
four year old quarterback in Philip Rivers. You got any
eligibility left want to go try out.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
For the Colts?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think mine ran out a while ago. But if
Philip Rivers can get out there at forty four on
a practice squad, it just makes me wonder.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Who's gonna start Sunday. It's a really good questions.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Riley Leonard can't play, and Anthony Richardson can't play, and
Daniel Jones certainly can't play.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
It would be it would be endangerment of a human
to put forty four year old.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Philip past the physical is what I would have.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
He's been coaching high school football, apparently, lift weights here
and there. So the story is apparently he's been running
a variant of the Colts offense at his high school
where his son.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
That qualifies him to play in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, apparently he's been talking to Steichem about the offense
every week. They've been having their own quarterback meeting.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Oh okay, so maybe he's not as.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Far behind, you know, mentally, physically that's another question.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
All right, let's talk about that in a little bit.
How about Dylan Harper? Pretty good last night.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Love what we're seeing.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I love the fact that you have so many We've
discussed this for a month now. You got Wimby number one,
you got Harper, with a number two pick. You got
Fox and Castle that were number four picks. You got
Vasel that was a top ten pick. You got Harrison Barnes,
it was a top ten pick. This entire roster is
made up of first round draft choices, and they're in

(10:15):
first round picks, and they are playing like it, and
they they I don't like the fact that they lost
a twenty point lead, but this is the NBA, and
the officiating is going to a lot of team that's
up by twenty or down by twenty get back in
it if they exert themselves.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
They did.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
It turned out to be a one possession game at
the end. And good thing. Derk queenly shoots eleven percent
from three point land.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, it was wide open.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, that was a good look. I do think there
is some you know, listening to Mitch Johnson a little
bit after the game, there is still some level of
concern about the third quarters this team coming out of
the half. You mentioned the giant blown lead, but sixteen
and seven overall, I think everyone would have taken that
twenty three games into the season if you knew Wimby

(10:59):
was going to list half of those.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well before Winby got hurt. The number one stat that
we were looking at. The Spurs were the best defensive
league historically in the NBA with Wimby on the floor,
and the worst defensive team historically without him on the floor.
I think in this stretch of now, what are they
eight and two in the ten games he's missed, right,
they've learned to play defense without him. Now, the points

(11:22):
won't tell you that because it was still in the
one thirties. But defense is subjective in the NBA anyway.
You don't have the shot blocking except Cornett is certainly
a poor man's version of what Wimby can do and
holding his own there. But they're learning to play defense
on the ball instead of just waiting for Wimby to
block the shot.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, you mentioned the one to thirty points total. Again,
they gave up forty five points in that third quarter.
I mean that even if you hold that to a
reasonable thirty points instead of forty five, you only gave
up one seventeen last night. Those third quarters are that's
where I keep my eye on every game to see
how they're going to come out of the half.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
All right, Timmy Trumpet and Edwin Diaz headed for the Dodgers.
They're going to get everybody they want. We're in a
capitalistic world. There is no salary cap, but that doesn't
mean you can't beat them. It just matter whether you
want to or not. Every owner in baseball is a billionaire.
Every owner's got money. How much do you want to
spend to beat the evil empire that is now the Dodgers?

(12:21):
And how much do you want to spend on a
GM that's got some clue how to build a roster,
because there's some in some major markets out there that
I'm not understanding how they're building rosters now. I very
seldom question managerial and coaching decisions, except when there's a
runner on third and nobody out and the winning runs

(12:42):
on third base and you still try to get home run.
I'm still trying to figure out that logic. I don't
care what the nerd from Harvard thinks. I want to
know what you that played the game for your entire
life thinks. But we'll get into the baseball stuff and
some interesting things going on on the hot stove League.
All right, let's talk about the Bowl game games. They're
not going anywhere, folks. I can't imagine that they're not

(13:03):
going to be even more Bowl games in the future,
and we'll share that information with you next stage four
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