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Speaker 1 (00:10):
There's a video out there that shows a Indiana Pacers
fan and I don't know when the date was on this,
but he was leaving Madison Square Garden and I don't
know if he was watching the Eastern Conference Finals or
it was a game earlier in the year. But a
lot of fans are not only heckling him, which I
think fans have the right to heckle the opponent, but
they're getting physically abusive with him, which they do not
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have the right. They're throwing things at him, they're threatening him,
and I don't know to what extent had happened before
he was able to get away from them or find
security to help him out. But Tyrese Haliburton saw this
video and this guy was from Indiana, and he says, Hey,
you want to go to Game four of the Conference Finals.
(00:53):
I'm gonna I think. Actually he's not from Indiana. He's
a New York He's a New York resident from Indiana
now and he says, I we're Game four. I'm gonna
fly you and your and your plus one out to Indiana,
tickets to the game, a hotel, ground transportation, the whole
nine yards. Thank you for supporting the Pacers. I hate
(01:14):
what the Knicks fans did to you. Come to Indiana
and we'll have a good time here as we play
game four.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, that's the unfortunate, ugly side of bad fans. Like,
you have to be able to win with class, but
you also have to be able to lose with class.
And this is where I lean towards more on the
side of This is why I don't want anything good
to come of New York fan base sports because.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, but it's not everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's it's a handful, I know, but you like, I'll
give you an example. When the Raiders were in Oakland,
there were people that would tell me that if you
go to a Raiders game in Oakland and you're wearing
the other team's gear, you can expect to be physical, violated,
and assaulted. It's just you're just doing something. You're you're
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putting yourself in harm's way. And that is an institutional
thing that the Raiders allowed to happen, the city of
Oakland allowed to happen. And it's a lack of security
and it's a lot of respect for the opponents. And
I don't if you're if you're in Kansas City, there
may be one or two idiots that do something to
a Raiders or Broncos or Chargers fan if they show up,
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but it's not the overwhelming majority of them. And in
New York and Philadelphia and all the eastern cities, Detroit, Cleveland,
there may be a handful of bad people that do
bad things like that, especially if the visiting team wins
and you're supporting the visiting team. But for ninety nine
point nine percent of all fans, except for what was
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described in Oakland and the lat latter years of the Raiders,
that's not the case. And you should be able if
you support the other team to show up at the
ballpark where the other team's gear and feel like you're
gonna be safe. If somebody wants to give you a
hard time and a bunch of crap for the other team,
that's great. Have fun, Let's have fun at a game.
(03:09):
Let's give each so let's talk trash to one another.
But there's a line you can't cross.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And when you're.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Gonna try to hit somebody, hurt someone, throw beer cans
at him, throw trash at him, you've crossed the line
and you need to go to jail and never be
allowed back to support your team ever again. The Madison
Square Garden should get that video, they should do facial recognition,
and those fans should never be allowed in any venue
in the NBA or any New York City run and
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operated venue period. Can't go to Mets games, can't go
to Yankee games, can't go to.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Msg it, can't go to Brooklyn. You're done.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And the NBA needs to take that video and find
those fans and do the same thing to them and
all other arenas around the country. It's fine to have
a trash talking session. They do it on the floor,
You do it with your friends on the golf course sometimes,
but it never turns violent. And this guy got turned
turn Violet against Tyreese. Heliburn's gonna try to make it
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up to him. But that's where we got to stop.
And it's you know, I don't care if New York,
if the Knicks. If the Knicks win the World Championship,
it's a great story. I don't I want Oklahoma City
to win, but the fact that the Knicks haven't won
in fifty two years is a great story. I'm okay
with the storyline, and I'm not gonna penalize ninety nine
percent of the New York fans that don't do stupid
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stuff like that, because there's a handful that do.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, It's just it's a very bad look because it
not only happened to that particular fan, but it also
happened to Brian Windhorst as well. You know, he was
he was laced with very foul language, which again language, hey,
sticks and stones as long as it's not racially insensitive
and things like that. But not only with language, he
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had trash thrown at him, beer cans and things like that.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's like, dude, have class man.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's that's the That's the unfortunate part of this is
you haven't been real event since nineteen seventy whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You were relevant in ninety nine when you got twolemen
sweat by the Spurs, and you were relevant in the
nineties when Reggie Miller beat you. Yeah, but it's that
you haven't won a championship in fifty two years. I
understand your frustrations. And if Indiana beat you, you just
have to deal with it. If Oklahoma City or Minnesota
beat you, you're gonna have to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Just because you're in New York.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You don't have this god given right to win every
championship that ever exist. But that's the same in every city.
I went to Yankee Stadium in twenty eighteen. I rode
the train from mid Manhattan to the Bronx. I never
once felt that I was any harms way whatsoever. I
was not wearing either team's gear. I didn't I just
wanted to go see Yankee Stadium and go to the game.
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I didn't care that and nobody else said. People didn't
say ten words to me. And I asked people directions
to make sure I was on the right train, and
they were very polite. And there was a whole bunch
of Yankee fans and Yankee heear going to the game
that I've never once felt that that I was in danger.
You start to get the fans that are gonna make
you in danger. That's those are the fans that just
should never be allowed to go to games ever again.
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