April 15, 2025 • 10 mins
Other teams are copying how Tennessee handled moving on from their QB.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Earlier this week, and the Tennessee volunteers told Nico i
am Aleva that we do not want you anymore time
free to leave. We're not going to renegotiate your contract
or your deal or whatever it is that you are
getting or non contract. And because of that, and you know,
both Michael and I applauded that, because I think it's
(00:24):
about time that the players who have this ungodly sense
of entitlement are kind of put back in their place
a little bit. But what this has done is the
University of Miami, I think, Georgia, Oklahoma, several schools have
made it very clear to their student athletes. Don't come
asking us for more money like Nico did, because you're
(00:45):
going to get the same treatment. You're going to be
in the portal. We promised a financial solution for you.
This is how much you're going to get. I don't
care if you win the Heisman. We're not renegotiating. That's
how much we got for you. We got somebody else
to go get the rest of our money. And so
the players are going to have to kind of back
off this. And then it goes back to what Jeff
(01:06):
was saying, if we make the players employees. We're going
to have men's and women's basketball and football, and that's
going to be it. None of the other sports are
going to exist because you can't employ five hundred and
fifty thousand student athletes at six hundred or so colleges
across the country. You just can't do it. I think
that's why. And I trust exemption is mismandatory. I've been
saying that for two or three years since it's all started.
(01:28):
Get yourself and get somebody to do for the NCAA
sports what they did for baseball, And I think baseball
is the only sport that's got it, and baseball really
doesn't need it anymore because they've got collective bargaining. But
the other sports definitely are college sports definitely needs it,
and that's where they need to go. But I'm really
glad that Tennessee did not get into a fight with
(01:52):
Niko over money. And I'm really glad to see more
and more schools say, Okay, we're not renegotiating deals with you.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, I'll push back a little bit on that. I'm
not going to blame Nico one hundred percent, because like
coach Traylor said, is it's not necessarily always on the kids.
It's the kids may be telling the truth, but it's
the people behind the kids that may not be telling
the truth that they're assuming the kids hearing from them
are telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Whether it's the.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Agent or a parent or a buddy or something like that.
Give you a real time scenario.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Somebody, I don't know who it was, told sinceera McCormick
he was going to get drafted in the second or
third round. Every NFL scout said, you're not getting drafted.
Every coach that was on that coaching staff, you're not
getting drafted. Everybody on the planet was telling Sin Sera McCormick,
you're not going to get drafted. Now sincere made the
right decision in the long run, because he's made to
twenty grand a year whatever it is, twenty grand a
(02:48):
week in the NFL, he's probably a millionaire by now
if he saved the money and didn't blow it. But
he also could have come back for another year and
maybe gotten a little bit hired status to your way
to head more of a guaranteed contract. But when you are,
when you are the potential breadwinner for your family, and
I don't know what if Nico's family is rich or not,
(03:11):
but I'm guessing that he's not super rich. And somebody says, well,
we're giving you two million dollars to play college football,
and right now you're not on anybody's NFL draft board
because you're only in your second or third year of
playing playing sports. It's time for you to go. It's
time for you to come play football. Two millions enough,
and he walks into Josh Hipel's office and goes, you know, coach,
(03:32):
I think I need to renegotiate my deal. I'm sure, Jeff,
I'm sure. Josh Hypel said, Nico, We're not going to
do that. If that's the decision that you're going to make,
then we're going to move on without you because we've
got other players that we got to give similar deals to.
There's not enough money to give you whatever you want,
whenever you want it. This isn't the NFL with a
(03:52):
salary cap for the football team and the quarterback gets
thirty percent of it. That's not how this works. We
got eighty five guys out there. We're trying to give everybody,
and I don't know who is telling you that you're
going to get more at UCLA, or you're going to
get more at Oregon and if you can, fine, go
see you, but we're not giving you more than two
million dollars. That's your deal. And then Nico goes back
(04:14):
and says to his mom or his dad or his brother,
his sister's cousin's uncle that thinks he's an agent, and says, man,
they're screwing you over. And now he's got to go back, Well,
who do I believe my coach? Does my coach have
an ulterior motive because he wants to win the SEC
Or does my uncle that's going to represent me and
take ten percent of the ulterior motive? And when you're
(04:34):
twenty one years old, you have no clue. You have
no clue about what's going on in the world to
begin with, let alone whether who's in your best interest.
So it is incredibly confusing. And so I don't think
that I do agree with Jeff and everybody else that
these athletes are getting bad information. They're getting bad information
(04:55):
when schools offer them X amount of dollars and there's
not even that much money available in their entire collectives,
and they're not able to research to find out if
somebody's telling them the truth or if somebody's is besing them,
and that's probably what happened to Eco. And my guess
is he'll end up at UCLA, Oregon or North Carolina,
(05:16):
probably for around two million dollars, maybe a little bit less,
maybe a little bit more. Tulane's alread dropped out. They're
not going to pay somebody two million dollars. He's not
going there. But these guys, these guys are getting information
from people that don't have their best interest. And if
some moms and dads feel like their kid now is
(05:36):
the bread winner because they've taken care of them all
their life, and this is their ticket to have the
big fancy house and the big fancy car in the driveway,
and there's other parents that are going to sit there
and go. Go listen to your coach. You trusted the
coach when you signed the national letter of intent. You
trusted the coach when he gave you two million dollars.
Believe him when he says there's no more money for
you to get and some are going to stay. You've
(05:58):
got a guy like McCown at UTSA. Now, I'm sure
his dad is a multi millionaire. With all the times
all the contracts he got in the NFL, So Owen
has probably never wanted for anything. And there's probably thirty
schools out there that would give him two or three
million dollars to go play football for them, based on
a seven and five season last year or eight and
(06:20):
eight and five whatever was for UTSA. But he's sitting
there going, I want to be here. I like it here.
If I never make it in the NFL, I don't care.
I'll take what UTSA can give me. I'll go get
a job I can coach. I can follow in my
dad's footsteps as a coach. Maybe someday I'll be a
head coach some more place. And I want to be here,
(06:41):
and I want to play with these wide receivers, and
Owen will be the guy that tries to make sure
that all the guys on that team stay. But there's
got to be there's got to be somebody that steps
in and does something, and you have to have you
have to have the NI Trust exemption so that you
can make rules, so that you can have buyouts, and
you can do all the things without having to make
(07:02):
them employees. As Jeff said, you cannot make them employees.
That's a sign of death for a whole lot of athletes.
And we all want softball in baseball and track and
field and all those sports to exist at all the schools.
Those are important because those give guys, almost all of
those sports give guys an opportunity, in girls, an opportunity
(07:24):
to go to college for free. They're getting a scholarship
or a partial scholarship to get a degree, to play
sports and represent those teams, and very few of them
actually make money. There's probably a few SEC schools where
the baseball team comes out positive. There's probably a few
big time schools where the wrestling program is a positive
number based on investment and attendance. Football makes money at
(07:47):
every school. Basketball makes money at every school. Women's basketball
either breaks even or makes money at most schools. Summit loses.
Every other sport loses money. And it's football and basketball's
responsibility to balance the budget. And if you add more money,
you take more money away from football to pay players
or to make them employees. The money that's going to
(08:09):
those other programs goes away.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I just hope that this winds up being whether
he gets more money or doesn't get more money. It's
just a lesson that NCO learns early in life now
is that old addage of sometimes the grass isn't always
greener on the other.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Side, and when if you're a player. If you are
a player and you want representation, the lesson that also
needs to be learned is go get a real agent.
Don't go get go go and get your brother's cousin
to do it, or some family member that has ulterior
motives and it's saying, well, I want ten or twelve percent.
Agents only get two percent. And the real agents know
(08:47):
they only get two percent, and that's who you need
to go pick. If you're going to hire an attorney,
pick an attorney that's got agent status and representation ability
and understands how deals get done. And since they can't
be signed contracts that would never hold up in court,
you're just gonna have to go with what is offered
or what you negotiate, but do it with somebody that's
(09:10):
got pedigree. And if Lee Steinberg or Scott Borrows is
the guy you pick and he says, dude, I can
only get you one hundred thousand dollars, believe him. That's
all you're getting. You make your family may think you're
worth three or four, but you're not. And I'm sure
those agents have had to say that to players who
they've represented in the in the pro sports that sometimes
(09:32):
what you think you're worth, or what your family thinks
you're worth, is a far cry from what you're actually worth.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, that old adage as well as like every mother
thinks they have the most beautiful or handsome, we're prettiest
daughter or son.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
At some point they're chasing the Gerber baby bottle yet
time soon.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, not everybody is equal when it comes to that.
Sometimes people white lie. But whatever it is, I hope
it works out for him all right. From one Nico
to the next. Nico Harrison says, the Mavericks have no regrets.
I'll give you the story between the lines. Next on
the ticket
Earlier this week, and the Tennessee volunteers told Nico i
am Aleva that we do not want you anymore time
free to leave. We're not going to renegotiate your contract
or your deal or whatever it is that you are
getting or non contract. And because of that, and you know,
both Michael and I applauded that, because I think it's
(00:24):
about time that the players who have this ungodly sense
of entitlement are kind of put back in their place
a little bit. But what this has done is the
University of Miami, I think, Georgia, Oklahoma, several schools have
made it very clear to their student athletes. Don't come
asking us for more money like Nico did, because you're
(00:45):
going to get the same treatment. You're going to be
in the portal. We promised a financial solution for you.
This is how much you're going to get. I don't
care if you win the Heisman. We're not renegotiating. That's
how much we got for you. We got somebody else
to go get the rest of our money. And so
the players are going to have to kind of back
off this. And then it goes back to what Jeff
(01:06):
was saying, if we make the players employees. We're going
to have men's and women's basketball and football, and that's
going to be it. None of the other sports are
going to exist because you can't employ five hundred and
fifty thousand student athletes at six hundred or so colleges
across the country. You just can't do it. I think
that's why. And I trust exemption is mismandatory. I've been
saying that for two or three years since it's all started.
(01:28):
Get yourself and get somebody to do for the NCAA
sports what they did for baseball, And I think baseball
is the only sport that's got it, and baseball really
doesn't need it anymore because they've got collective bargaining. But
the other sports definitely are college sports definitely needs it,
and that's where they need to go. But I'm really
glad that Tennessee did not get into a fight with
(01:52):
Niko over money. And I'm really glad to see more
and more schools say, Okay, we're not renegotiating deals with you.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, I'll push back a little bit on that. I'm
not going to blame Nico one hundred percent, because like
coach Traylor said, is it's not necessarily always on the kids.
It's the kids may be telling the truth, but it's
the people behind the kids that may not be telling
the truth that they're assuming the kids hearing from them
are telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Whether it's the.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Agent or a parent or a buddy or something like that.
Give you a real time scenario.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Somebody, I don't know who it was, told sinceera McCormick
he was going to get drafted in the second or
third round. Every NFL scout said, you're not getting drafted.
Every coach that was on that coaching staff, you're not
getting drafted. Everybody on the planet was telling Sin Sera McCormick,
you're not going to get drafted. Now sincere made the
right decision in the long run, because he's made to
twenty grand a year whatever it is, twenty grand a
(02:48):
week in the NFL, he's probably a millionaire by now
if he saved the money and didn't blow it. But
he also could have come back for another year and
maybe gotten a little bit hired status to your way
to head more of a guaranteed contract. But when you are,
when you are the potential breadwinner for your family, and
I don't know what if Nico's family is rich or not,
(03:11):
but I'm guessing that he's not super rich. And somebody says, well,
we're giving you two million dollars to play college football,
and right now you're not on anybody's NFL draft board
because you're only in your second or third year of
playing playing sports. It's time for you to go. It's
time for you to come play football. Two millions enough,
and he walks into Josh Hipel's office and goes, you know, coach,
(03:32):
I think I need to renegotiate my deal. I'm sure, Jeff,
I'm sure. Josh Hypel said, Nico, We're not going to
do that. If that's the decision that you're going to make,
then we're going to move on without you because we've
got other players that we got to give similar deals to.
There's not enough money to give you whatever you want,
whenever you want it. This isn't the NFL with a
(03:52):
salary cap for the football team and the quarterback gets
thirty percent of it. That's not how this works. We
got eighty five guys out there. We're trying to give everybody,
and I don't know who is telling you that you're
going to get more at UCLA, or you're going to
get more at Oregon and if you can, fine, go
see you, but we're not giving you more than two
million dollars. That's your deal. And then Nico goes back
(04:14):
and says to his mom or his dad or his brother,
his sister's cousin's uncle that thinks he's an agent, and says, man,
they're screwing you over. And now he's got to go back, Well,
who do I believe my coach? Does my coach have
an ulterior motive because he wants to win the SEC
Or does my uncle that's going to represent me and
take ten percent of the ulterior motive? And when you're
(04:34):
twenty one years old, you have no clue. You have
no clue about what's going on in the world to
begin with, let alone whether who's in your best interest.
So it is incredibly confusing. And so I don't think
that I do agree with Jeff and everybody else that
these athletes are getting bad information. They're getting bad information
(04:55):
when schools offer them X amount of dollars and there's
not even that much money available in their entire collectives,
and they're not able to research to find out if
somebody's telling them the truth or if somebody's is besing them,
and that's probably what happened to Eco. And my guess
is he'll end up at UCLA, Oregon or North Carolina,
(05:16):
probably for around two million dollars, maybe a little bit less,
maybe a little bit more. Tulane's alread dropped out. They're
not going to pay somebody two million dollars. He's not
going there. But these guys, these guys are getting information
from people that don't have their best interest. And if
some moms and dads feel like their kid now is
(05:36):
the bread winner because they've taken care of them all
their life, and this is their ticket to have the
big fancy house and the big fancy car in the driveway,
and there's other parents that are going to sit there
and go. Go listen to your coach. You trusted the
coach when you signed the national letter of intent. You
trusted the coach when he gave you two million dollars.
Believe him when he says there's no more money for
you to get and some are going to stay. You've
(05:58):
got a guy like McCown at UTSA. Now, I'm sure
his dad is a multi millionaire. With all the times
all the contracts he got in the NFL, So Owen
has probably never wanted for anything. And there's probably thirty
schools out there that would give him two or three
million dollars to go play football for them, based on
a seven and five season last year or eight and
(06:20):
eight and five whatever was for UTSA. But he's sitting
there going, I want to be here. I like it here.
If I never make it in the NFL, I don't care.
I'll take what UTSA can give me. I'll go get
a job I can coach. I can follow in my
dad's footsteps as a coach. Maybe someday I'll be a
head coach some more place. And I want to be here,
(06:41):
and I want to play with these wide receivers, and
Owen will be the guy that tries to make sure
that all the guys on that team stay. But there's
got to be there's got to be somebody that steps
in and does something, and you have to have you
have to have the NI Trust exemption so that you
can make rules, so that you can have buyouts, and
you can do all the things without having to make
(07:02):
them employees. As Jeff said, you cannot make them employees.
That's a sign of death for a whole lot of athletes.
And we all want softball in baseball and track and
field and all those sports to exist at all the schools.
Those are important because those give guys, almost all of
those sports give guys an opportunity, in girls, an opportunity
(07:24):
to go to college for free. They're getting a scholarship
or a partial scholarship to get a degree, to play
sports and represent those teams, and very few of them
actually make money. There's probably a few SEC schools where
the baseball team comes out positive. There's probably a few
big time schools where the wrestling program is a positive
number based on investment and attendance. Football makes money at
(07:47):
every school. Basketball makes money at every school. Women's basketball
either breaks even or makes money at most schools. Summit loses.
Every other sport loses money. And it's football and basketball's
responsibility to balance the budget. And if you add more money,
you take more money away from football to pay players
or to make them employees. The money that's going to
(08:09):
those other programs goes away.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I just hope that this winds up being whether
he gets more money or doesn't get more money. It's
just a lesson that NCO learns early in life now
is that old addage of sometimes the grass isn't always
greener on the other.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Side, and when if you're a player. If you are
a player and you want representation, the lesson that also
needs to be learned is go get a real agent.
Don't go get go go and get your brother's cousin
to do it, or some family member that has ulterior
motives and it's saying, well, I want ten or twelve percent.
Agents only get two percent. And the real agents know
(08:47):
they only get two percent, and that's who you need
to go pick. If you're going to hire an attorney,
pick an attorney that's got agent status and representation ability
and understands how deals get done. And since they can't
be signed contracts that would never hold up in court,
you're just gonna have to go with what is offered
or what you negotiate, but do it with somebody that's
(09:10):
got pedigree. And if Lee Steinberg or Scott Borrows is
the guy you pick and he says, dude, I can
only get you one hundred thousand dollars, believe him. That's
all you're getting. You make your family may think you're
worth three or four, but you're not. And I'm sure
those agents have had to say that to players who
they've represented in the in the pro sports that sometimes
(09:32):
what you think you're worth, or what your family thinks
you're worth, is a far cry from what you're actually worth.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, that old adage as well as like every mother
thinks they have the most beautiful or handsome, we're prettiest
daughter or son.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
At some point they're chasing the Gerber baby bottle yet
time soon.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, not everybody is equal when it comes to that.
Sometimes people white lie. But whatever it is, I hope
it works out for him all right. From one Nico
to the next. Nico Harrison says, the Mavericks have no regrets.
I'll give you the story between the lines. Next on
the ticket
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