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August 12, 2025 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:23):
like so many others do.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Australia, the Netherlands, UK, obviously, Mexico, India, Argentina. I'm sorry, Canada,
you know you can forgive me. You were not in
the lawn. I love your maple syrup. I love maple syrup.
I love you know. To be honest, Andy, I would
actually love to go up to like Canada, to Toronto.
I hear Toronto is very nice.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm considering a golf trip to Canada in the future.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's that's unbelievable because you can't live in anything that
is below eighty degrees.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well you know it's it is eighty degrees in the summertime. Yeah,
I can. I can go like seventy five to eighty five.
I think next year's golf trip is going to be
to Michigan, where it's like in the mid eighties in
the daytime. That's perfect golf weather.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
When would you be going, obviously it would.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Be July July. Yeah, Yeah, there's no time between now
and April, and then there's the leto Texas open and
then whatever else comes down. It's I have about a
nine week about an eight week window to take vacations
and trips and do stuff. The rest of the year's booked.
All right, Let's talk about a couple of things. And
apparently there is a social post going around of John Mattier,

(01:36):
the OU quarterback that when he was at Washington State,
it's a screenshot of his Venmo account sending two payments
to a friend and putting in their football gambling or
sports gambling or something along those lines. On the memo
part of the Venmo now, he says he did this

(02:01):
as a joke with one of his friends. So if
the text was only or the or the I guess
it was a text that he sent to somebody else
with the screenshot of this. First of all, why are
you showing somebody a screenshot of your Venmo account? I
don't care how good of a friend you are. That's
out in space now, and I don't know that you
can get anything off of a Venmo account a screenshot,

(02:25):
but I'm not going to take a chance and somebody
may figure out a way to hack that. I'm not
a big Venmo fan anyway. I prefer Zell. I think
Zell's better. Here's the second part of that equation. If
this was not a joke, and that this was something
that I'm sure he knew was illegal, why would you
send somebody a payment and also describe what it's for

(02:49):
in some kind of a digital method. I've transferred money
between children and spouse and and friends when it's necessary,
and like when I booked my golf trips, for example,
and I have people going with me, they tend to
pay their share back to me through through Zel. Pretty simple.

(03:13):
But never have I seen as a memo in there
that says payment to Andy for X amount of dollars
for green fees at Carnoustie. It's never been that detail.
It might say golf trip or something like that. But
even then I don't do that, and I'm not a
big fan of debit banking anyway. I have to know

(03:33):
what's in that account all the time. I'm still old
school there, But anyway, John Mattire says, this was a joke.
We live in a cynical world. Nobody believes it. Uh,
and the oh you, it's going to investigate.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
If this was Major League Baseball, he wouldn't play this
year because they'd take a year to figure out whether
he did it or not. Because we've already got a
couple of pitchers in I think with the Guardians and
with the Nationals maybe that are under investation because of
some weird prop bets on how many pitches we're going
to be balls and strikes. But this does not look

(04:07):
good for ou. This is a distraction for you as
they're getting ready to start the season, and this is
a can't amiss year for Brett Vinnables or he's going
to be somebody else's defensive coordinator next year. You said
earlier today that if he actually did this, it shows
how immature and stupid he is. He should be kicked
off the team immediately. Well, there's no way Brett Vinables

(04:29):
is kicking anybody off the team when his job and
his life Leod is on the line as well, unless
it's far more egregious than what he claims to be
a joke. I don't know whether to believe it or not,
but to me, it looks like it's a big time
case of stupidity. Either way, either he bet on college
sports or some kind of sports betting and it's now

(04:51):
trying to backtrack and get out of it. That's stupid.
Or he did something stupid to play a joke on
one of his friends and now it's looking like it's
some thing that it's not, which puts a bad light
on you and whatever team you're playing for.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, but exactly it goes back to what you just said, is, yeah,
if you're doing this as a joke, it's very stupid
because in this day and age of now how how
people are getting it, this is being getting cracked down
even more. And the fact that you're doing it on

(05:26):
a digital platform that actually shows whether or not it's real.
I mean, I don't know if the NCAA has has
the wherewithal or the the leite legality to actually do it.
If if John Mattier is saying, oh, well it's it's fake,
it's not true.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's two two hundred dollars transfers.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
You can you can you know, I would guess what
subpoena the bank.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Records, But it's gonna show what the screenshot said. So
he sent you this to this guy. What did this
guy do at the two hundred bucks? No one's ever
gonna know if he went to the ATM machine and
cashed it and took it to the casino and bet
on somebody to win. Okay, but can you prove that.
I don't think you can prove that there was anything.
All it does is just, you know, create a flag.

(06:13):
Now here's the thing I want to know. If I
sent you two hundred bucks and as a joke I
put in the comments that it was for something that
it was not, how mad do you have to be
at me two years down the road to out me
by posting the screenshot on social media? I mean, I
don't get where the guy that received the text that

(06:35):
has this saved in his pictures someplace. Oh, I'm going
to play a fast foot on my boy John from
a couple of years ago. Did he do something to
slight you? Did he do something to make you mad?
Why are you putting screenshots that's something he sent you
as a joke out to make it look like it's
something that it's not.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, but why are you stupid enough as a regardless,
you're a freshman quarterback, and I understand a college.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Quarterback, you're eighteen in your DA you're.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Eighteen, and you're dumb, But why would you even do
something as stupid as doing.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Exactly like its stupidity on every level.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
To give potential AMMO for like you just mentioned, if
if you slight that guy or whatever, now that.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
For the game I wanted. So I'm gonna tell the
world that you gambled with me.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, I just I mean, if if Brett Vinables and
ou were not in a dire situation right now, incredibly dire,
like what let's just say, for instance, let's just say
this is Sarkesan or this is uh Nick.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
And scruples in sports anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I firmly believe that if it came to something along
those lines, Nick Saban, it wouldn't matter if that was football, Jesus,
Nick Saban's going to be like, I don't have time
for this, BS, you're off my team.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, if you are the fourth team quarterback, yes, but
if you're the starting quarterback. Not that arch Manning would
do something dumb like this, But if it was arch Manning,
he wouldn't be kicked off the team.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Again if it's something.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I mean, I don't think this is egregious enough to
be kicked off the team. Unless there's dead solid evidence
that he did gamble on college football or college sports
or whatever other sports that athletes are not allowed to
bet on in the college I don't think think about anything.
I don't eve think they can play fantasy football if
there's any money involved in it. So, yeah, if you

(08:22):
did something crazy and stupid like that, then yes, your
fate is CEEO, you're never playing football at this level again.
But if it is truly a joke, then you are in.
You're guilty of doing stupid, practical jokes. But I don't
unless the NCAA has evidence that he actually was sending
money to somebody to place bets for him, and they

(08:43):
can prove that that's what that money was for and
that it was not a joke. And there's other people
that are going to come for and say, man, John
was betting all the time, he was chasing his losses
all the time. Sometimes it was cash, sometimes even moded.
Sometimes he did something else. Now you got a case,
and I'm sure they're going to go do a little
bit of investigation. But if if they don't connect the
dots and the t so they're not going to kick

(09:03):
him off the team or kick him out of the game,
but somebody needs to get to him and go don't
do something stupid like that.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Again, well, at least according to the rules, it says
that college athletes are prohibited from betting on any sport
offered by the NCAA. So if I was John Mattier
and and I actually was betting, I would get out
in front of this and be like, yes, I was,
but it wasn't on college. It was on uh super
Bowl pot. I would say it would be on a

(09:30):
professional level.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
But I don't get out. I don't know what athletes
can and can't do, but I know college administrators. Rick
Neueiel got in trouble with this two years ago. He
was he was in a one hundred dollars a square
super Bowl pool and the and the you have the
one hundred square the square game for the Super Bowls. Yeah,
he was in one hundred dollars. His name was on
a sheet that said Rick Neuheisel one hundred bucks. He
bought a square and he got in trouble for that

(09:54):
and the nc DOUAA is if you are an administrator,
if you work on staff, if you're a coach, if
you know so, if you're the water boy for a
for a college football team, you cannot play fantasy sports
for money and you cannot you cannot play, you cannot
bet on the games, and you cannot do Super Bowl squares.
And that means if you're the president of the university,

(10:16):
all the way down to the guy that cleans out
the locker room at night, all of those people are
forbidden if they are employed by said university to do
any of that in a game and could lose their
job and sanctions against the program if there is violation
of that. Now, I do think that, you know, Mark
VanderMeer told us last week NFL employees, which I'm assuming

(10:37):
that he qualifies thing he's employed by the Texans. You
can't even go play, you know, blackjack and crabs at
a casino.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
You can't even go into a casino.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
You can't cross the lea well, you have to walk
through it sometimes to get to your hotel room. In
those places. But you're taking the long way then you're
taking Yeah, you're taking the outer boundary. You're not cutting
through the middle, just in case somebody has got a camera.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, you're not going through these. These are not your elevators.
You're going through.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
You have to go outside and walk back around. That's
that's how you You have.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
To have to take that repel up there, and you're
repelling up to your room. You're not going through the casino.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
What'so to take the service elevator there?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
You go?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, all right. Here's something else though that I saw yesterday.
It was a panel of SEC people and they were
talking about the same OU schedule that we talked about,
and other than Michigan, the first four five games for
for OU, it's Northern Illinois and Kent State and some
other you know, Temple and those teams, and they're going
to roll those teams, and whether they beat Michigan or not,

(11:34):
they're going to be four and one or five and
oh going into the Texas.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Auburn is the other one.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, so yeah, I guess you could. But Auburn's at home.
They have Auburn at home, I think this year correct,
so and Auburn's are very good. So let's say they're
five and oh, they do beat Michigan, they do beat Auburn,
they beat Temple, they beat Northern Illinois, they beat Kent State.
Then they got Texas, then they got South Carolina. After that,
right at South Carolina, then they got Alabama, Ole miss Ole,

(12:00):
miss at home. Uh, that one I think is somewhat winnable.
Then what's next after that? Rocky Top Rocky Top and
Tennessee fifty to fifty at the best.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, then Tuscaloosa inc.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
And they're going to be eventual from last year.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, and then the uh, the most overrated program that you.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Are, the Missouri Missouri and yes, and then uh yeah,
so they have murderers shrow for six weeks after they
after they play Kent State to get warmed up for Texas.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
If they go three and three in that stretch, that's
a miracle. Erect a statue and give Brevitables a ten
year extension. I don't I don't know how they do that,
But listen, I don't know what this team's gonna look like.
I don't have time to put a lot of effort
into what OU's roster looks like anymore. I have friends
for that, and they'll tell me even they're optimistic, because

(12:55):
all the talk shows up there talking about how good
the defense is going to be. This panel, however, said
that they think the OU defense, and in particularly the
OU defensive line, is as good as any in the
conference and in the country. We'll see when they have
to and they're not going to get any any I know.
I know Northern Illinois got deep into the FCS playoffs

(13:15):
last year, but that's the FCS. The test comes against
Michigan and Auburn. We'll see how good they are. Wow,
how dare you disrespect the FCS? Man, Well, the U
TSA has got to play in Cardett Word and I'm
not disrespecting them because they've been good for a while.
And that's game three of the year for UTSA. And
if the Roadrunners happened to you know, whether they beat
Texas A and M or not, if they beat Texas State,

(13:37):
they don't want to, you know, overlook an FCS school
because the Cardet Word's got enough players that if they
hang around. You know, I'll look at it the same
way I look at the A and M game. If
utsa's only chance to beat Texas A and M, it's
for A and M to have a terrible first quarter
and turn the ball over if they do that and
they get in and UTSA can get a lead, and

(13:58):
then they can get a little doubt in them, and
the and the home crowd gets a little lancy. Okay,
now you've got a chance. But you're not going to
be able to block and tackle them as well as
they're going to be able to block and tackle you,
because they're just so big in the offense and defensive lines.
But if you can make them play play poorly on
offense and your defense can capitalize off their mistakes, then

(14:19):
then there's an Appalachian State or or Northern Illinois. Northern
Illinois beat was a Notre dame last year. Yeah, so
they got they got those opportunities. All right, Let's talk
Texans with Mark vander Meer. That's coming up next. It's
the Andy Everette Show on the Ticket
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