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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Thanks for putting the afternoon with us, and we've had
some discussion with Mark. We'll have Mark Vandermier coming up
here shortly. We also talked about the college football playoff.
Dan Lenning wants to see more home games for teams
that have earned that right, and doctor Jason Garrett was
with us a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The Spurs and Thunder play another matchup. We saw them
in the first matchup earlier last couple of weeks ago
when they had the Emirates Cup semi final game and
what was one of the most epic regular season games
we've ever seen. My guess is we won't see that
kind of a game. Hopefully we will, Maybe we will.
We don't have the same amount, the same thing on
(00:43):
the line as we used to. But here we go
tonight with a Spurs Thunder matchup. That is something that
I think we're going to see for a number of years.
And this is going to become a big rivalry if
it hasn't already. You've got Shay and Wimby, two very
young players that are going to dominate the league, and
they both have a great supporting cast around them. You know,
(01:05):
it's not often that the second player picked in the
draft has as much of an impact as Dylan Harper has.
And what I think is really cool about the way
that he has performed is that he is gonna He's
just learning. He's only what twenty years old? Nineteen twenty
years old, And we talked yesterday about him being this
(01:31):
six man candidate for six Men of the Year, which
Keldon Johnson also could be in that category because he's
played great too. And then you kind of twist everything
around a little bit and notice that you're not going
to have to pay Harper until about the time Dear
and Fox's fifty sixty.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Million a year goes away.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So I've had this conversation with people for two weeks now,
what are the Birds going to make a trade? And
I'm like, what are you talking about? Why would they
trade anybody? At this point, they have a roster full
of number one draft picks. They don't need to make
a trade.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That doesn't mean that Brian Wright might see something out
there that intrigues him, but I can't imagine messing up
what you got so far. And this team right now
is playing in seventy five percent winning percentage, which equates
to sixty two wins if they keep this up.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, it feels like any trade coming this year specifically
will be complementary, not a massive push your chips and
kind of move. It'd be for a tenth or eleventh
guy exactly, and something to shore up. You know. The
first thing that comes to mind more shooting off the bench,
something like that, you know, mentioning Dylan Harper though it's
(02:36):
it's not often the number two pick in the draft
goes to a team that is ready to win, like
the Spurs find themselves now currently, And you know, my
head immediately goes it wasn't that long ago. You know,
there were a lot of concerns with the Spurs drafting
Dylan Harper because of positional fit, because they already had Castle,
(02:57):
they already had Fox, They've already got all of these
wing players, and how was Dylan Harper going to fit
in there. That's the same kind of thought process that
leads you to draft Darko Milicic instead of Carmelo Anthony
And imagine what the Pistons would have looked like with
Mellow instead of Darko. And I think you're seeing a
(03:17):
little bit of that with the Spurs taking Dylan Harper
instead of anyone that would have been a better positional
fit currently with the Rossie.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Take the best player available, regardless of the position that high.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
In the draft every single time.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, but I also think too that you know, there's
the old adage, I can't coach height, so I'm going
to take the bigger player. But the bigger player may
not be ready to adjust to the style of the NBA.
You mentioned something a minute ago about even if they
do make a trade for a complimentary player, the Spurs
(03:51):
are already playing a ten to eleven guys every game,
and there's only two hundred and forty minutes when you
add up all five positions times forty eight minutes. So
where does that guy play? And to me, I just
as soon have Lindy Waters or somebody like that, or
David Ort was it David Garcia Garcia? I'd rather have
him who knows the system already. If I need an
(04:12):
emergency player, then to go get somebody and bring them in,
because they're not going to get right now. The minutes
are all taken. You got you got the Wimby and
Vessel and Fox and Castle and Barnes, and the starters
are going to get what probably one hundred and fifty
of the two hundred and forty minutes. And so you're
going to play six other players about fifteen minutes a
(04:33):
game on the on the on the average to get
to the next ninety. And you know, you got Sohn
and Keldon, Johnson and Champagne and and uh Olennic.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And Cornette and Cornett.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So that now you're you're basically used up all your
all your minutes with the rotation that you currently have.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah, and I think again, these are all good problems
to have, because when you have that kind of depth,
juggling minutes like that is a good problem to have.
I I still think there is if they are if
they do find themselves at the trade deadline feeling like
this is a year where we absolutely should be going
(05:11):
for it. You're not going to see any kind of
massive moves, but the sohand contract coming up with his
rookie year, rookie deal expiring after next year, going to
be a potential unrestricted free agent if they don't make
any offer, they didn't make any kind of contract extension offer.
(05:32):
That's where you know a guy that is in and
out of the lineup plays once every two or three games.
Feels more like a situational matchup piece of the bench
than a getting fifteen minutes every single game. That's a
guy where I could see we can take this asset
and flip it into something similar, where we might get
(05:55):
a guy that only plays once every other game. But
maybe he's a better shooter, or maybe he's a better
he's a veteran, he know he's been in playoff series.
I still think, Uh, you're going to see some kind
of movement, but nothing massive.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I I don't like to tweak with success. I
think the success is there. Here's something else I want
to bring out with both of you here. I think
this is if you look at the teams in the
West and you look at matchups against Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
City has got a really deep team too. It's it's
Shay obviously, and and uh and then Holmegren and Jay
(06:30):
Dubb there if that's their three headed monster, if you will,
I think Cason Wallace is incredibly underrated. H then you
throw in Dort and you throw in Caruso Orange Artstein
is there. But if you look at the other teams
in the league, I think the Spurs are the one
team that can match up with them on the perimeter
(06:52):
with when you have to guard somebody, and then have
somebody that is going to challenge Homegren in in the
paint with Wimby and blocking shots, who's a better shot
blocker than even homegren is, Whereas the Lakers are are
gonna be Luca centric and then whatever Lebron can give them.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What's going on with Houston other than the fact that
Fred Van Fleet's not there, and I think that makes
a big difference in how they run their offense. And
and then you look at the you know, I think
Phoenix has been the overachieving team and they've added by
subtracting this year with their marquee players and basically letting
Booker run the show. I just think the I think
(07:33):
the Spurs have a lineup that can match up with
Oklahoma City better than anybody else in the West.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And I think that's the key difference between the Spurs
and the Thunder and everyone else in the West, because
the Lakers might have some individual advantages because of Luca,
the you know, Rockets might have individual advantages, or the
Nuggets a better example, because of Jokic and Shingoon to
(08:00):
a lesser extent in Houston. But what the Spurs can
throw at Oklahoma City is the depth of eleven guys
coming off the bench and matching up player for player
across the board, but then also having that one guy
that creates mismatches anytime he's on the court in Wimby.
So the Spurs have the one guy that can win
(08:23):
the series by himself because of the mismatch advantage. But
then they also have all of that bench depth to
line up with the Thunder and rotate hockey shifts one
after another just like the Thunder.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Dude, And it's not.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Just that, is that the Spurs, for those that don't know,
they have five guys on on their current rotation that
are shooting at thirty seven percent or higher from beyond
the three, So they're making a high number of three
pointers per game consistently. So not only did they match
up player for player against teams like the Thunder, but
against teams like we saw with Phoenix, or teams like
the Warriors, even teams like the Rockets that shoot a
high volume number of threes. The Spurs are shooting a
(08:57):
high volume number more compared to last year, but they're
making them at a higher efficiency rate compared to that
as well, because we see guys like them Butsell Harrison, Barnes,
even Champenny especially come off the bench making those key
three point shots. And you talk about this all the
time that if you're gonna shoot forty five threes, you
need to make at least eighteen of them. Well, the
Spurs right now, just in terms of like where they
are in this part of the season, they're shooting about
(09:18):
thirty seven a game. They're making between fourteen and sixteen
a game. And the way they're able to keep other
teams down without making your maage number of eighteen is
they also have one of the highest defensive efficiencies, both
beyond the arc and the paint of anything.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And that defense have improved when Wemby missed twelve games
because they really realize they have to stop the ball
not just wait for him to play the shot.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
They overachieved like guys like Lou Cornette, and I've made
this clear multiple times, Lou Cornette is one of the
most underrated phrasing signings in all of basketball, not just
because of the depth he gives behind Wimby, that the
Spurs did not have last year, but the paint presence
that he has by himself takes away. While not at
the same rate that you get from Wimby, he takes
away a lot in the paint if you're trying and
drive on the basketball, forcing a lot of those outside.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Shots, switching gears a bit. Adam Silver comes out to
Day and says they've got to do a better job
of preventing teams from tanking in late March and April
so that the lottery system becomes fair and the dispersion
of talent across the league becomes fair.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, hold on and the lottery by definition, the word
lottery is not based on fairness.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's a lottery exactly. Yeah, I mean side well.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
The odds being slanted in certain teams favors.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And frozen envelope.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Kah, Well, are you talking about not letting guys like
Zach Collins be out with the game with a finger
cut or something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, yeah, I this is this has been a problem
that's gone back more than twenty years because it even
though it started with with Pop arresting Tamptonian Manu, as
we've we've talked about before, there's been times, if even
before that where players would not play just because they
didn't feel like it. And I'm of the of the
(10:54):
opinion you only do this eighty two times a year.
There's three hundred and sixty five days in the year.
Unless you have an injury that is going to absolutely
make you not be able to play, your butt should
be on the field. I mean, Dak Prescott comes out
today and says, I'm not resting, and if the Cowboys
want me to rest, I'm going to fight them every
second of the day.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I'm here to play football. This is my job.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
This is what the fans are paying me to watch.
Are watching me play. They don't want to They're not
coming here to watch Joe Milton play. They're coming here
to watch me play. And that's I understand. It's they're
meaningless games going forward. But I applaud that now in
the fourth quarter, if you want to rest him a
little bit, that's fine too. Let the other guy get
some live snaps. But if you're a player, you need
to play more. So here's three things that the league
(11:38):
is thinking about to kind of help this along. Limiting
pick protections to either the top four or fourteen or higher,
which would eliminate the problematic mid lottery protections, and then
no longer allowing a team to draft in the top
four more than two years in a row, and then
locking the lottery position after March first.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
So a couple of things. The first one of those
I completely agree with, because that's where you have teams
that are like, okay, our first round pick is top
ten protected, right, so if we can and we're right now,
we're twelve, So if we just lose a few more games,
then we can be in the top ten and we'll
keep our pick. I completely agree. Right now, there are
(12:17):
way too many protections on NBA draft picks. You shouldn't
be able to say, uh, it's it's the first.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Rounder this year, but next year it's a second rounder,
it's a first rounder.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
If this year it's in the top five.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Some of them are absurd. You go from it's top
twenty protected to it's lottery protected. Now it's top ten,
now it's top eight, now it's five, now it's three,
and then eventually it's player but like they need to
get the protections are absurd.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well I was going to say the second one though.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Not allowing a team to pick two years in a row.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That's one I think that could really really change things
very quickly. Because baseball when they switch to a lottery
draft a couple of years ago, that was one of
the rules they put into their draft, so if a
team ends up in the top four, they slide out
of that spot and another team moves into the top four.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Best odds in baseball is such a talk about a lottery.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's a crabshoot.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
To begin they're number one, yeah the baseball Maybe at
a baseball in ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
A dude drafted in the fifth round now.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Seventy seventh round may show up, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Or some undrafted kid playing in an independent league in Cleborn, Texas.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I was gonna say, if they're going to protect like
teams from draft and inside the top four multiple years
in row, then they need to bolish the lottery in
of itself because like Puma, like you said, it's a
game of chance, and basically saying he's taking that chance
away by taking away the arbitrary randomness of the lottery,
by adding a human element of saying like, oh, even
though you got, even though you won, we're gonna take
this away from you.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
But I say you still keep it in because it
only all you're doing is removing the randomness from the
one team you don't want picking in the top four
to take them out of the lottery one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Exactly, they don't. They get an envelope that's going to
be five or greater.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Suck for no reason then, yeah, right, Well that's the
Washington Wizards. That's why they've suck forever, and they'll probably
always be in the lottery. All right, let's talk to
Mark vandam here coming up about the Texans, and we
got some more NFL stuff at the bottom of the
hour as well.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Five point fifteen on the ticket
Thanks for putting the afternoon with us, and we've had
some discussion with Mark. We'll have Mark Vandermier coming up
here shortly. We also talked about the college football playoff.
Dan Lenning wants to see more home games for teams
that have earned that right, and doctor Jason Garrett was
with us a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The Spurs and Thunder play another matchup. We saw them
in the first matchup earlier last couple of weeks ago
when they had the Emirates Cup semi final game and
what was one of the most epic regular season games
we've ever seen. My guess is we won't see that
kind of a game. Hopefully we will, Maybe we will.
We don't have the same amount, the same thing on
(00:43):
the line as we used to. But here we go
tonight with a Spurs Thunder matchup. That is something that
I think we're going to see for a number of years.
And this is going to become a big rivalry if
it hasn't already. You've got Shay and Wimby, two very
young players that are going to dominate the league, and
they both have a great supporting cast around them. You know,
(01:05):
it's not often that the second player picked in the
draft has as much of an impact as Dylan Harper has.
And what I think is really cool about the way
that he has performed is that he is gonna He's
just learning. He's only what twenty years old? Nineteen twenty
years old, And we talked yesterday about him being this
(01:31):
six man candidate for six Men of the Year, which
Keldon Johnson also could be in that category because he's
played great too. And then you kind of twist everything
around a little bit and notice that you're not going
to have to pay Harper until about the time Dear
and Fox's fifty sixty.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Million a year goes away.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So I've had this conversation with people for two weeks now,
what are the Birds going to make a trade? And
I'm like, what are you talking about? Why would they
trade anybody? At this point, they have a roster full
of number one draft picks. They don't need to make
a trade.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That doesn't mean that Brian Wright might see something out
there that intrigues him, but I can't imagine messing up
what you got so far. And this team right now
is playing in seventy five percent winning percentage, which equates
to sixty two wins if they keep this up.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, it feels like any trade coming this year specifically
will be complementary, not a massive push your chips and
kind of move. It'd be for a tenth or eleventh
guy exactly, and something to shore up. You know. The
first thing that comes to mind more shooting off the bench,
something like that, you know, mentioning Dylan Harper though it's
(02:36):
it's not often the number two pick in the draft
goes to a team that is ready to win, like
the Spurs find themselves now currently, And you know, my
head immediately goes it wasn't that long ago. You know,
there were a lot of concerns with the Spurs drafting
Dylan Harper because of positional fit, because they already had Castle,
(02:57):
they already had Fox, They've already got all of these
wing players, and how was Dylan Harper going to fit
in there. That's the same kind of thought process that
leads you to draft Darko Milicic instead of Carmelo Anthony
And imagine what the Pistons would have looked like with
Mellow instead of Darko. And I think you're seeing a
(03:17):
little bit of that with the Spurs taking Dylan Harper
instead of anyone that would have been a better positional
fit currently with the Rossie.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Take the best player available, regardless of the position that high.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
In the draft every single time.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, but I also think too that you know, there's
the old adage, I can't coach height, so I'm going
to take the bigger player. But the bigger player may
not be ready to adjust to the style of the NBA.
You mentioned something a minute ago about even if they
do make a trade for a complimentary player, the Spurs
(03:51):
are already playing a ten to eleven guys every game,
and there's only two hundred and forty minutes when you
add up all five positions times forty eight minutes. So
where does that guy play? And to me, I just
as soon have Lindy Waters or somebody like that, or
David Ort was it David Garcia Garcia? I'd rather have
him who knows the system already. If I need an
(04:12):
emergency player, then to go get somebody and bring them in,
because they're not going to get right now. The minutes
are all taken. You got you got the Wimby and
Vessel and Fox and Castle and Barnes, and the starters
are going to get what probably one hundred and fifty
of the two hundred and forty minutes. And so you're
going to play six other players about fifteen minutes a
(04:33):
game on the on the on the average to get
to the next ninety. And you know, you got Sohn
and Keldon, Johnson and Champagne and and uh Olennic.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And Cornette and Cornett.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So that now you're you're basically used up all your
all your minutes with the rotation that you currently have.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah, and I think again, these are all good problems
to have, because when you have that kind of depth,
juggling minutes like that is a good problem to have.
I I still think there is if they are if
they do find themselves at the trade deadline feeling like
this is a year where we absolutely should be going
(05:11):
for it. You're not going to see any kind of
massive moves, but the sohand contract coming up with his
rookie year, rookie deal expiring after next year, going to
be a potential unrestricted free agent if they don't make
any offer, they didn't make any kind of contract extension offer.
(05:32):
That's where you know a guy that is in and
out of the lineup plays once every two or three games.
Feels more like a situational matchup piece of the bench
than a getting fifteen minutes every single game. That's a
guy where I could see we can take this asset
and flip it into something similar, where we might get
(05:55):
a guy that only plays once every other game. But
maybe he's a better shooter, or maybe he's a better
he's a veteran, he know he's been in playoff series.
I still think, Uh, you're going to see some kind
of movement, but nothing massive.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I I don't like to tweak with success. I
think the success is there. Here's something else I want
to bring out with both of you here. I think
this is if you look at the teams in the
West and you look at matchups against Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
City has got a really deep team too. It's it's
Shay obviously, and and uh and then Holmegren and Jay
(06:30):
Dubb there if that's their three headed monster, if you will,
I think Cason Wallace is incredibly underrated. H then you
throw in Dort and you throw in Caruso Orange Artstein
is there. But if you look at the other teams
in the league, I think the Spurs are the one
team that can match up with them on the perimeter
(06:52):
with when you have to guard somebody, and then have
somebody that is going to challenge Homegren in in the
paint with Wimby and blocking shots, who's a better shot
blocker than even homegren is, Whereas the Lakers are are
gonna be Luca centric and then whatever Lebron can give them.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What's going on with Houston other than the fact that
Fred Van Fleet's not there, and I think that makes
a big difference in how they run their offense. And
and then you look at the you know, I think
Phoenix has been the overachieving team and they've added by
subtracting this year with their marquee players and basically letting
Booker run the show. I just think the I think
(07:33):
the Spurs have a lineup that can match up with
Oklahoma City better than anybody else in the West.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And I think that's the key difference between the Spurs
and the Thunder and everyone else in the West, because
the Lakers might have some individual advantages because of Luca,
the you know, Rockets might have individual advantages, or the
Nuggets a better example, because of Jokic and Shingoon to
(08:00):
a lesser extent in Houston. But what the Spurs can
throw at Oklahoma City is the depth of eleven guys
coming off the bench and matching up player for player
across the board, but then also having that one guy
that creates mismatches anytime he's on the court in Wimby.
So the Spurs have the one guy that can win
(08:23):
the series by himself because of the mismatch advantage. But
then they also have all of that bench depth to
line up with the Thunder and rotate hockey shifts one
after another just like the Thunder.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Dude, And it's not.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Just that, is that the Spurs, for those that don't know,
they have five guys on on their current rotation that
are shooting at thirty seven percent or higher from beyond
the three, So they're making a high number of three
pointers per game consistently. So not only did they match
up player for player against teams like the Thunder, but
against teams like we saw with Phoenix, or teams like
the Warriors, even teams like the Rockets that shoot a
high volume number of threes. The Spurs are shooting a
(08:57):
high volume number more compared to last year, but they're
making them at a higher efficiency rate compared to that
as well, because we see guys like them Butsell Harrison, Barnes,
even Champenny especially come off the bench making those key
three point shots. And you talk about this all the
time that if you're gonna shoot forty five threes, you
need to make at least eighteen of them. Well, the
Spurs right now, just in terms of like where they
are in this part of the season, they're shooting about
(09:18):
thirty seven a game. They're making between fourteen and sixteen
a game. And the way they're able to keep other
teams down without making your maage number of eighteen is
they also have one of the highest defensive efficiencies, both
beyond the arc and the paint of anything.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And that defense have improved when Wemby missed twelve games
because they really realize they have to stop the ball
not just wait for him to play the shot.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
They overachieved like guys like Lou Cornette, and I've made
this clear multiple times, Lou Cornette is one of the
most underrated phrasing signings in all of basketball, not just
because of the depth he gives behind Wimby, that the
Spurs did not have last year, but the paint presence
that he has by himself takes away. While not at
the same rate that you get from Wimby, he takes
away a lot in the paint if you're trying and
drive on the basketball, forcing a lot of those outside.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Shots, switching gears a bit. Adam Silver comes out to
Day and says they've got to do a better job
of preventing teams from tanking in late March and April
so that the lottery system becomes fair and the dispersion
of talent across the league becomes fair.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, hold on and the lottery by definition, the word
lottery is not based on fairness.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's a lottery exactly. Yeah, I mean side well.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
The odds being slanted in certain teams favors.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And frozen envelope.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Kah, Well, are you talking about not letting guys like
Zach Collins be out with the game with a finger
cut or something like that.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, yeah, I this is this has been a problem
that's gone back more than twenty years because it even
though it started with with Pop arresting Tamptonian Manu, as
we've we've talked about before, there's been times, if even
before that where players would not play just because they
didn't feel like it. And I'm of the of the
(10:54):
opinion you only do this eighty two times a year.
There's three hundred and sixty five days in the year.
Unless you have an injury that is going to absolutely
make you not be able to play, your butt should
be on the field. I mean, Dak Prescott comes out
today and says, I'm not resting, and if the Cowboys
want me to rest, I'm going to fight them every
second of the day.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I'm here to play football. This is my job.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
This is what the fans are paying me to watch.
Are watching me play. They don't want to They're not
coming here to watch Joe Milton play. They're coming here
to watch me play. And that's I understand. It's they're
meaningless games going forward. But I applaud that now in
the fourth quarter, if you want to rest him a
little bit, that's fine too. Let the other guy get
some live snaps. But if you're a player, you need
to play more. So here's three things that the league
(11:38):
is thinking about to kind of help this along. Limiting
pick protections to either the top four or fourteen or higher,
which would eliminate the problematic mid lottery protections, and then
no longer allowing a team to draft in the top
four more than two years in a row, and then
locking the lottery position after March first.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
So a couple of things. The first one of those
I completely agree with, because that's where you have teams
that are like, okay, our first round pick is top
ten protected, right, so if we can and we're right now,
we're twelve, So if we just lose a few more games,
then we can be in the top ten and we'll
keep our pick. I completely agree. Right now, there are
(12:17):
way too many protections on NBA draft picks. You shouldn't
be able to say, uh, it's it's the first.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Rounder this year, but next year it's a second rounder,
it's a first rounder.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
If this year it's in the top five.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Some of them are absurd. You go from it's top
twenty protected to it's lottery protected. Now it's top ten,
now it's top eight, now it's five, now it's three,
and then eventually it's player but like they need to
get the protections are absurd.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well I was going to say the second one though.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Not allowing a team to pick two years in a row.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That's one I think that could really really change things
very quickly. Because baseball when they switch to a lottery
draft a couple of years ago, that was one of
the rules they put into their draft, so if a
team ends up in the top four, they slide out
of that spot and another team moves into the top four.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Best odds in baseball is such a talk about a lottery.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's a crabshoot.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
To begin they're number one, yeah the baseball Maybe at
a baseball in ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
A dude drafted in the fifth round now.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Seventy seventh round may show up, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Or some undrafted kid playing in an independent league in Cleborn, Texas.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I was gonna say, if they're going to protect like
teams from draft and inside the top four multiple years
in row, then they need to bolish the lottery in
of itself because like Puma, like you said, it's a
game of chance, and basically saying he's taking that chance
away by taking away the arbitrary randomness of the lottery,
by adding a human element of saying like, oh, even
though you got, even though you won, we're gonna take
this away from you.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
But I say you still keep it in because it
only all you're doing is removing the randomness from the
one team you don't want picking in the top four
to take them out of the lottery one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Exactly, they don't. They get an envelope that's going to
be five or greater.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Suck for no reason then, yeah, right, Well that's the
Washington Wizards. That's why they've suck forever, and they'll probably
always be in the lottery. All right, let's talk to
Mark vandam here coming up about the Texans, and we
got some more NFL stuff at the bottom of the
hour as well.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Five point fifteen on the ticket
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