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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, it's four nineteen. It's the Andy Everage Show
on the ticket. Last night we saw two NFL games.
We'll get more on Tyreek Hill's injury when we visit
with Jason Garrett tomorrow from a Rosti and find out
what the road to recovery is going to look like
for him. The Cubs and Padres are going to the
bottom of the eighth with Chicago up two one, two
on and one out, runners at second and third at
(00:23):
trying to add to their lead, and they probably just did.
And I don't know if this is deep enough for
a sack fly or not. We're going to find out
it is. It'll be uh three to one Chicago in
the eighth. All right, last night we had a couple
of NFL games the Tyreek Hill injury. Miami was able
to win the game. The Jets only lost by six.
They had thirteen penalties and three turnovers, and Aaron Glenn,
(00:46):
their head coach, was asking the press conference about the
game and he said, we got to do something about this.
So my question, Aaron Glenn, is what are you doing
about it? If you know that your team is a
undisciplined team with penalties and turnovers, there has to be
consequences in practice the next day when you have thirteen
(01:07):
penalties and three turnovers. Most coaches what have you? You know,
run laps, run wind sprints, do suicide drills. There's now
players that have to crawl from one side of the
field to the next. There's all kinds of things that
are part of you having to do something to remind
(01:29):
you that you do not want to ever commit another
penalty or to have a turnover. So there's two thoughts
on this. The one the coaches can tolerate a pass
interference penalty if you're going up for the ball and
you don't get a call. Now, if you're grabbing the
guy the whole the way, all the way downfield and
you're too slow to guard the wide receiver, Okay, we
(01:51):
need to get a better cornerback. But for the most part,
pass interference could probably be called on every play, just
like holding could be. And you can tolerate the plays
that are done in order to prevent an injury, to
prevent your quarterback from being blown up, all kinds of
thoughts like that. But what coaches do not tolerate is
lining up in the neutral zone fifteen times a season.
(02:12):
And getting called for it every time. If you're the
rush rush end, all you have to do, just like
the wide receiver does, is look at the referee and say,
am I behind the line, and he'll give you the
thumbs up, and if you're not, he'll tell you to
move back a half a step. But they lean over
the line and they get their helmet on that in
that imaginary neutral zone, so they can get a quarter
of a second head start, and more often than not
(02:35):
it's called. And then there's your offsides penalty that allows
them to have third down over again. And it happens
over and over and over again, and it's usually the
same guy and and so those are the kind of
penalties unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. There was a I think it
was the Alabama game this weekend with Georgia. There was
(02:56):
a Georgia player. The play is pretty much dead, they're
blowing on the whistles, and he comes in from nowhere
and just does this flying leap pile drive into the
middle of the pile. Fifteen yard penalty. Get out of here.
You're out of here, see you. I mean, if you're
a coach, you're thinking the play is over, you just
cost his fifteen yards. What are you doing. Get your
(03:16):
head in the game. Let's and tomorrow you're gonna run
seven suicides for it. If you don't have consequences to
messing things up, guess what, you're probably going to continue
to mess them up. You can say, well, I'll try better.
But if you're getting ready to rush the passer and
you don't know whether you're off sides or not, or
if you're getting ready to make a tackle and you
don't know if the play is over or not in
(03:38):
the back of your mind, or you're gonna be going
I really don't want to run suicides tomorrow. I better
do this the right way. And it doesn't matter if
there's only one time that I think that you should
make a play that is going to be an obvious penalty,
and that's if a player is going to is about
to get blown up, if you're the left tackle, and
(03:59):
if the left tack misses the block and you're the
protection running back and you go, my quarterback's dying. If
I don't do something tackle the guy, take the ten
yard holding penalty. It's better than losing your quarterback. And
on a kickoff return, how many times do we see
a kickoff return get called back for an illegal block
in the back. If you can't see the guy's eyes,
don't touch him. I don't understand why that's so hard
(04:21):
to do. Now, again, if you're a putt returner or
your kick returner doesn't see the guy coming at him
and you're trying to get him out of the way
in order for him not to get injured, Okay, I'll
accept that as a necessary penalty. But it's every time
on a kickoff returner a putt return, a legal block
in the back ten yard penalty spot of the foul
first down, and it negates a big run. If you
(04:44):
can't see the jersey and the guy's eyes don't touch him,
and that should be I think an easy rule. Now,
I haven't never played special teams. I've never played football
since I was nine years old, so I'm not one
to say that it's easy. But when you're at that
kind of level and you're that good of a player
to get to the NFL or even to major college football,
you should be able to not make silly, stupid penalties
(05:06):
like that lighting up in the neutral zone, piling on
to a pile of a tackle that's already been completed,
and the illegal block in the back. If I were
a coach, a GM or an owner, those plenty of
kind of penalties would drive me crazy. Jimmy Johnson wouldn't
put up with him back in the day. Bill Cower
wouldn't put him back up in the day. I guarantee
(05:28):
you Mike Tomlins got punishment for some of those guys
some of the time. They got to fix that. And
I think the Jets are better than they've been. They're
zero and four, but their schedule is ridiculous coming up,
and I don't know that when they're going to win
a game. They had a chance last night to beat
Miami and they messed it up because of penalties and turnovers.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and you know you talk about penalties, for one
that you know pops into my head is when you're
talking about late hits, is just being smart. Going back
to the Cowboys Packers game, towards the end of the game,
Morris Leafoul makes an absolutely stupid late hit penalty for
no reason whatsoever other than I don't know establishes dominance.
(06:08):
The past was incompleted, I think it would have been
second or third down and instead fifteen yard penalty automatic
first down, and now the Packers have a new set
of downs and put them in either contention to make
the game time field goal or that that go ahead touchdown.
You know, like you mentioned, there are there are penalties
(06:31):
where a coach is going to forgive, and I put
forgive in air quotes, hustle hustle plays. You know, hey,
if you're if you're just trying to sack somebody and
then you unfortunately hand goes too high. You're not intentionally
trying to get a face mask, you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Or you're going to tackle somebody and they duck and
now you put them in an it's an awkward position
where you're already committed to what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, yeah. Or you know the penalties that we see
a potential late hit on a quarterback. I want my
big fat offensive lineman. I don't care if it's a
penalty or he gets thrown out. You're going to go protect.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Protect your quarterback. If it's of dead ball fouls that
you've got to stop the off the well fall starts
one thing on the offense. But I mean, I've watched football,
and I can watch the game. I go, man, I
can listen unless his camera angle is an optical illusion.
Or if I'm at the game and I see somebody
lined up in the neutral zone, I'm like, can't you
tell that you're you're half a foot too close to
(07:36):
the line. Back up a little bit, you're gonna still
be able to get to the quarterback. I don't understand
why they're trying to get so close to the edge
that at least seventy percent of the time it's gonna
get called.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, so, I think some of it is just it's
not necessarily coaching, it's just it's laziness. Look at the
Cowboys Giants game. At that backup left tackle, he had
four penalties andy on one drive.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, he's probably scared of the edge rush coming from
the other side and trying to get a full a
quicker start.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, I mean the first.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
But that's the other thing too. They don't line up
on the line because if you look at an offensive line,
they're not straight across. They're kind of fanned out. Because
that left tackle knows that rush is coming and he's
got a back, he wants to start a little bit earlier,
and most of the time it's called a false start.
But I think the biggest one for me is the
block in the back, the lining up in the neutral zone,
(08:25):
and the late hits. Those you just can't do. All right,
let's get to the other game. The Bengals lost to Denver.
I don't think Denver is ready to win a championship
or anything yet. They're okay. But the Bengals are a
team that when I picked them to be the seventh
seed earlier this year, I picked them based on Joe
Burrow being their savior. And Joe Burrow is one of
the most talented players in the NFL in a long time,
(08:46):
and he's got two great receivers with Chase and Higgins.
But that team needs to make some major changes right now,
and the question has been tossed out there with Burrow out,
should they go get Russell Wilson or one of the
backup quarterbacks in the league. We learned today that should
that Dylan Gabriel is going to start this weekend instead
of Joe Flacco. I doubt the Browns would give up
(09:08):
Joe Flacco at this point, but maybe maybe make a
call for right now. I'd take Shad Or if I
were the Bengals, I'd take anybody that they got just
to get them to hold their head above water until
we get to the time that Burrow can come back,
likely sometime in late November. But here's my problem with
the Bengals that I didn't factor in. If Burrow goes out,
they're they're And you look at last year, they made
(09:30):
their their push for the playoffs and missed by a
game and needed some help that they didn't get. It
was all Joe Burrow. It was all Joe Burrow making plays.
I'm not sure that Russell Wilson would help them. I'm
not sure that any quarterback would help them. I'm not
even sure if Joe Burrow comes back he can help them.
It's an organization that is notoriously cheap. Will blame them,
the GM will blame the coach, will blame everybody but
(09:53):
themselves because they don't want to spend money to feel
the proper team. They're still trying to deal with the
with Hendrickson and the fallout from that this fall, And
and on defense, their defense isn't very good. They don't
have a running back. I mean, we're getting ready to
go into Week five and they may be ready to,
you know, take the season and go after the top
pick in the draft, and that may be a better
(10:15):
opportunity for them because at least they can draft players
that they don't really have to pay that much and
may be able to help them win games come next year.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, you know, the opinion of as far as should
the Bengals decide to go get another quarterback, you know,
maybe Russell Wilson or a Kirk Cousins, they have to
make sure and established to that said quarterback whoever they
potentially if they make that move and like that for
a short term, Yeah, you're here until Joe Burrow is
(10:45):
one hundred percent healthy if he even is, or even
if the team is in playoff potential contention. Because at
that point, if they're five and ten or whatever, and
Joe Burrow is clear to come back, why am I
letting Joe Burrow, my franchise quarterback play two meaningless games.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I don't want him to play with a makeshift offensive line,
no running back, and and your team is, you know,
four and fourteen with two games four in left, four
and ten, four and twelve, with two or three games
left to go.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I mean, if I'm the Bengals, to be honest, Andy,
I make a call because if it's just for one year,
I make a call to the Giants, they've already gone
with Jackson Dark Either you try to make to see
for Russell Wilson or the third string quarterback as goofy
as he is, he can win football games, Jameis Winston.
And it's not going to probably cost you more than
(11:36):
a fifth round draft pick.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
If that all right, let's talk about the NBA season.
It starts on Monday. The Spurs and their point guard
issues right now with two potentially not playing for the
first few games of the season. And we'll give you
a golf stat of the day coming up here in
a little bit as well. Four thirty on the ticket,
All right, it's four nineteen. It's the Andy Everage Show
on the ticket. Last night we saw two NFL games.
We'll get more on Tyreek Hill's injury when we visit
with Jason Garrett tomorrow from a Rosti and find out
what the road to recovery is going to look like
for him. The Cubs and Padres are going to the
bottom of the eighth with Chicago up two one, two
on and one out, runners at second and third at
(00:23):
trying to add to their lead, and they probably just did.
And I don't know if this is deep enough for
a sack fly or not. We're going to find out
it is. It'll be uh three to one Chicago in
the eighth. All right, last night we had a couple
of NFL games the Tyreek Hill injury. Miami was able
to win the game. The Jets only lost by six.
They had thirteen penalties and three turnovers, and Aaron Glenn,
(00:46):
their head coach, was asking the press conference about the
game and he said, we got to do something about this.
So my question, Aaron Glenn, is what are you doing
about it? If you know that your team is a
undisciplined team with penalties and turnovers, there has to be
consequences in practice the next day when you have thirteen
(01:07):
penalties and three turnovers. Most coaches what have you? You know,
run laps, run wind sprints, do suicide drills. There's now
players that have to crawl from one side of the
field to the next. There's all kinds of things that
are part of you having to do something to remind
(01:29):
you that you do not want to ever commit another
penalty or to have a turnover. So there's two thoughts
on this. The one the coaches can tolerate a pass
interference penalty if you're going up for the ball and
you don't get a call. Now, if you're grabbing the
guy the whole the way, all the way downfield and
you're too slow to guard the wide receiver, Okay, we
(01:51):
need to get a better cornerback. But for the most part,
pass interference could probably be called on every play, just
like holding could be. And you can tolerate the plays
that are done in order to prevent an injury, to
prevent your quarterback from being blown up, all kinds of
thoughts like that. But what coaches do not tolerate is
lining up in the neutral zone fifteen times a season.
(02:12):
And getting called for it every time. If you're the
rush rush end, all you have to do, just like
the wide receiver does, is look at the referee and say,
am I behind the line, and he'll give you the
thumbs up, and if you're not, he'll tell you to
move back a half a step. But they lean over
the line and they get their helmet on that in
that imaginary neutral zone, so they can get a quarter
of a second head start, and more often than not
(02:35):
it's called. And then there's your offsides penalty that allows
them to have third down over again. And it happens
over and over and over again, and it's usually the
same guy and and so those are the kind of
penalties unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. There was a I think it
was the Alabama game this weekend with Georgia. There was
(02:56):
a Georgia player. The play is pretty much dead, they're
blowing on the whistles, and he comes in from nowhere
and just does this flying leap pile drive into the
middle of the pile. Fifteen yard penalty. Get out of here.
You're out of here, see you. I mean, if you're
a coach, you're thinking the play is over, you just
cost his fifteen yards. What are you doing. Get your
(03:16):
head in the game. Let's and tomorrow you're gonna run
seven suicides for it. If you don't have consequences to
messing things up, guess what, you're probably going to continue
to mess them up. You can say, well, I'll try better.
But if you're getting ready to rush the passer and
you don't know whether you're off sides or not, or
if you're getting ready to make a tackle and you
don't know if the play is over or not in
(03:38):
the back of your mind, or you're gonna be going
I really don't want to run suicides tomorrow. I better
do this the right way. And it doesn't matter if
there's only one time that I think that you should
make a play that is going to be an obvious penalty,
and that's if a player is going to is about
to get blown up, if you're the left tackle, and
(03:59):
if the left tack misses the block and you're the
protection running back and you go, my quarterback's dying. If
I don't do something tackle the guy, take the ten
yard holding penalty. It's better than losing your quarterback. And
on a kickoff return, how many times do we see
a kickoff return get called back for an illegal block
in the back. If you can't see the guy's eyes,
don't touch him. I don't understand why that's so hard
(04:21):
to do. Now, again, if you're a putt returner or
your kick returner doesn't see the guy coming at him
and you're trying to get him out of the way
in order for him not to get injured, Okay, I'll
accept that as a necessary penalty. But it's every time
on a kickoff returner a putt return, a legal block
in the back ten yard penalty spot of the foul
first down, and it negates a big run. If you
(04:44):
can't see the jersey and the guy's eyes don't touch him,
and that should be I think an easy rule. Now,
I haven't never played special teams. I've never played football
since I was nine years old, so I'm not one
to say that it's easy. But when you're at that
kind of level and you're that good of a player
to get to the NFL or even to major college football,
you should be able to not make silly, stupid penalties
(05:06):
like that lighting up in the neutral zone, piling on
to a pile of a tackle that's already been completed,
and the illegal block in the back. If I were
a coach, a GM or an owner, those plenty of
kind of penalties would drive me crazy. Jimmy Johnson wouldn't
put up with him back in the day. Bill Cower
wouldn't put him back up in the day. I guarantee
(05:28):
you Mike Tomlins got punishment for some of those guys
some of the time. They got to fix that. And
I think the Jets are better than they've been. They're
zero and four, but their schedule is ridiculous coming up,
and I don't know that when they're going to win
a game. They had a chance last night to beat
Miami and they messed it up because of penalties and turnovers.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and you know you talk about penalties, for one
that you know pops into my head is when you're
talking about late hits, is just being smart. Going back
to the Cowboys Packers game, towards the end of the game,
Morris Leafoul makes an absolutely stupid late hit penalty for
no reason whatsoever other than I don't know establishes dominance.
(06:08):
The past was incompleted, I think it would have been
second or third down and instead fifteen yard penalty automatic
first down, and now the Packers have a new set
of downs and put them in either contention to make
the game time field goal or that that go ahead touchdown.
You know, like you mentioned, there are there are penalties
(06:31):
where a coach is going to forgive, and I put
forgive in air quotes, hustle hustle plays. You know, hey,
if you're if you're just trying to sack somebody and
then you unfortunately hand goes too high. You're not intentionally
trying to get a face mask, you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Or you're going to tackle somebody and they duck and
now you put them in an it's an awkward position
where you're already committed to what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, yeah. Or you know the penalties that we see
a potential late hit on a quarterback. I want my
big fat offensive lineman. I don't care if it's a
penalty or he gets thrown out. You're going to go protect.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Protect your quarterback. If it's of dead ball fouls that
you've got to stop the off the well fall starts
one thing on the offense. But I mean, I've watched football,
and I can watch the game. I go, man, I
can listen unless his camera angle is an optical illusion.
Or if I'm at the game and I see somebody
lined up in the neutral zone, I'm like, can't you
tell that you're you're half a foot too close to
(07:36):
the line. Back up a little bit, you're gonna still
be able to get to the quarterback. I don't understand
why they're trying to get so close to the edge
that at least seventy percent of the time it's gonna
get called.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, so, I think some of it is just it's
not necessarily coaching, it's just it's laziness. Look at the
Cowboys Giants game. At that backup left tackle, he had
four penalties andy on one drive.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, he's probably scared of the edge rush coming from
the other side and trying to get a full a
quicker start.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, I mean the first.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
But that's the other thing too. They don't line up
on the line because if you look at an offensive line,
they're not straight across. They're kind of fanned out. Because
that left tackle knows that rush is coming and he's
got a back, he wants to start a little bit earlier,
and most of the time it's called a false start.
But I think the biggest one for me is the
block in the back, the lining up in the neutral zone,
(08:25):
and the late hits. Those you just can't do. All right,
let's get to the other game. The Bengals lost to Denver.
I don't think Denver is ready to win a championship
or anything yet. They're okay. But the Bengals are a
team that when I picked them to be the seventh
seed earlier this year, I picked them based on Joe
Burrow being their savior. And Joe Burrow is one of
the most talented players in the NFL in a long time,
(08:46):
and he's got two great receivers with Chase and Higgins.
But that team needs to make some major changes right now,
and the question has been tossed out there with Burrow out,
should they go get Russell Wilson or one of the
backup quarterbacks in the league. We learned today that should
that Dylan Gabriel is going to start this weekend instead
of Joe Flacco. I doubt the Browns would give up
(09:08):
Joe Flacco at this point, but maybe maybe make a
call for right now. I'd take Shad Or if I
were the Bengals, I'd take anybody that they got just
to get them to hold their head above water until
we get to the time that Burrow can come back,
likely sometime in late November. But here's my problem with
the Bengals that I didn't factor in. If Burrow goes out,
they're they're And you look at last year, they made
(09:30):
their their push for the playoffs and missed by a
game and needed some help that they didn't get. It
was all Joe Burrow. It was all Joe Burrow making plays.
I'm not sure that Russell Wilson would help them. I'm
not sure that any quarterback would help them. I'm not
even sure if Joe Burrow comes back he can help them.
It's an organization that is notoriously cheap. Will blame them,
the GM will blame the coach, will blame everybody but
(09:53):
themselves because they don't want to spend money to feel
the proper team. They're still trying to deal with the
with Hendrickson and the fallout from that this fall, And
and on defense, their defense isn't very good. They don't
have a running back. I mean, we're getting ready to
go into Week five and they may be ready to,
you know, take the season and go after the top
pick in the draft, and that may be a better
(10:15):
opportunity for them because at least they can draft players
that they don't really have to pay that much and
may be able to help them win games come next year.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, you know, the opinion of as far as should
the Bengals decide to go get another quarterback, you know,
maybe Russell Wilson or a Kirk Cousins, they have to
make sure and established to that said quarterback whoever they
potentially if they make that move and like that for
a short term, Yeah, you're here until Joe Burrow is
(10:45):
one hundred percent healthy if he even is, or even
if the team is in playoff potential contention. Because at
that point, if they're five and ten or whatever, and
Joe Burrow is clear to come back, why am I
letting Joe Burrow, my franchise quarterback play two meaningless games.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I don't want him to play with a makeshift offensive line,
no running back, and and your team is, you know,
four and fourteen with two games four in left, four
and ten, four and twelve, with two or three games
left to go.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, I mean, if I'm the Bengals, to be honest, Andy,
I make a call because if it's just for one year,
I make a call to the Giants, they've already gone
with Jackson Dark Either you try to make to see
for Russell Wilson or the third string quarterback as goofy
as he is, he can win football games, Jameis Winston.
And it's not going to probably cost you more than
(11:36):
a fifth round draft pick.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
If that all right, let's talk about the NBA season.
It starts on Monday. The Spurs and their point guard
issues right now with two potentially not playing for the
first few games of the season. And we'll give you
a golf stat of the day coming up here in
a little bit as well. Four thirty on the ticket,
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