Wednesday: Advising Diego Pavia

A former QB advises the Vanderbilt QB on how to take down Goliath in Tuscaloosa.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Vanderbilt and Bama are playing this weekend, and Diego Pavia
has opened his mouth and he has said, and this
is his quote, if we play our game, it won't
even be close. I'm not sure Alabama is the bear
that you want to poke, and no pun intended for

(00:24):
Bear Bryant. But anyway, if it works, it works. I
don't think you want to tell at a school that
has never won anything in the SEC that matters in football,
from a school to one that's pretty much won every
championship that matters for the last I don't know ten
decades that if we play our game, we're going to

(00:46):
run you out of the building. That is not a
good thing to do. You are giving them a lot
of BILLETI wore material, and I can guarantee you everyone
on that team has seen it and is ready to
do something about it, especially when this game is in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I can understand if this was in Vanderbilt like it
was last season, but you're going into enemy territory.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
That's again we half heartedly joke.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
That's like when teams decide to poke Baker Mayfield, Baker,
you suck you ain't gonna do this. Baker, you know,
does the you know, all right, hold my beer, and
then Baker goes in Bakers, I don't get it. That's
like DeMarcus Cousins. That's like Kevin Garnett. That's like all
of those young power forwards trying to poke one Timothy

(01:38):
Theodore Duncan and he's like, all right, good job, mannfellow,
and then rattle off eighteen straight.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
So Diego Pavia is becoming a little bit of a
diva after his success last year for an averaged somewhat
decent Vanderbilt team, and Johnny Manzel, who is not notorious
for the mistakes he made that basically have ended his
athletic career, has given him some advice. Don't bet Johnny

(02:08):
off the football field. Now. I kind of applaud Johnny
Manziel for telling Diego Pavia, this is the mistakes that
I made, This is what you need to be cautious of,
and don't do it this way. I wonder if Diego
Pavia will take Johnny Manziel's advice or not.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I I'm a little torn between this one though. Is
all of a sudden, it's like, why does Johnny Manziel
feel like he needs to say anything other than Hey,
I'm Johnny Manziel. I haven't been in the news for
a while. I'm gonna decide to say something just so
people can start talking about me. But if he's doing

(02:50):
it for the right reasons, like you mentioned, if he
is going out of his way and wants the kid
to better himself, then I don't have an issue with it.
But with Johnny Mann's ll that's the problem we have
the credit report, Andy.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I never know what's good natured, what's.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
In the right, you know, the right thing for him,
or if it's just hey, I got to figure out
how to stay relevant again.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
No, I've seen some of Johnny's podcasts and it's hard.
You know, when somebody tries to cony you a little bit,
you can kind of tell that that's kind of been
their mo o their whole life.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
You know who's never been conn Steve Vaumer, right, he's
never been doing of course, not never.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
But when you are when when you when you light
cheat steel, when you're an addict, when you do things
you're used to doing things to be deceiving, and I
I'm not sure if that's if Johnny's being deceiving or
not when he says this, but he talks about his
behavior at Texas A and M and in Cleveland in

(03:50):
the pros and says, I wish I could do those
years over. I would have done them so differently. I
would not have taken it for granted what I had.
And you know, I think it goes back to your
high school in middle school days, when you're the best
player on your team, and you're the best player in
your district, and you're the best player, and you're, you know,
within one hundred miles of yourself. And Johnny Manziel was

(04:11):
certainly that when he was at Kerrville Tyvee, he could
do pretty much whatever he wanted and get away with it,
whether it was against the law, against school rules, because
there was nobody that was going to bitch in because
God forbid, we lose a game because he's not playing
because he did something wrong. And what you're doing is
you're teaching people that. And I do kind of subscribe

(04:32):
to the theory that winners get to do more than
everybody else does. If you're the most successful at what
you do, you get to cut some corners here and there.
It's just a fact of life. But you shouldn't be.
But you should hold yourself and you should be held
by others to a standard for the rest of the
team to follow. And if you're not going to do that,

(04:52):
then how can you be the true leader that you
are by just you know, touchdown Johnny every time? And
he was clearly the best player on the field in
all of his high school games. There was nobody. He
may have played some games for the others that were
as good, but there was nobody better. And for the
most part when he was when he beat Alabama and
he was at Texas A and M, he was the

(05:13):
best player on the field and it really wasn't that close.
And then he went to the pros, he was like,
you know, this offensive line is not very good, and
those defensive linement are a lot faster than the ones
I played in college. I'm going to be running for
my life all the time. And my running games decent,
but it's not great. My wide receivers might catch a
pass if I throw it somewhere, but they might not.
And I'm no longer the best player on the field.

(05:33):
And he continued to do all the shortcuts that he
did when he played in college. Like getting hammered the
night before a game. That doesn't bode well for your teammates.
It doesn't teach the people around you that you can
be responsible. You can say what you want about Tom Brady,
you can say what you want about Patrick Mahomes, but
when he sticks his head in that huddle, not only

(05:54):
as to what he says is arrestonating with the team.
They feel confident in him because he's bad by what
he's done off the field and in preparation for the game.
And when you just show up and wing it and
you can do that when you're the best player on
the team, that's That's one thing. You know. The high
school kids probably don't care because they just want to
hang out with you. But as you get further along

(06:14):
in your career and you start to cut corners and
just do whatever you want to because you think you
can show up and wing it and get it done,
it's going to come back to bite you. And I
think that Johnny's trying. I've seen a few of his
podcasts and kind of the interview podcast he does occasionally
with Shannon Sharp, and he I think he's sincere in
saying I wish I could have done a couple of
things different.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, yeah, that's hindsight, Henry.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Oh well, I wish I could have done things different
as far as maybe I wish I wouldn't have robbed
that bank. Maybe I wish I wouldn't have stole that
if you know, if if if if it's in butts
and candy and nuts and whatever, the saying we all
have a married Christmas.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yep, we would. I'm sorry, I think, but I think
everybody wishes they could do things, do something different from
five years ago, or twenty years ago, or seventy years ago,
whatever it is. But Johnny did a lot of things wrong,
and Johnny did it consistently wrong. And it's what ended
his career. Not only was he cocky and brash and
all that, but then that behavior in that lifestyle led

(07:14):
to injuries that he couldn't overcome. And I saw him play,
you know, three football games against Bernie, and he was
clearly the best athlete within ten counties of there. And
I saw him play baseball against Bernie twice or three
times as a sophomore, three times in a playoff game
with playoffs as a as a junior. He did not

(07:37):
play his senior year. That's when he went on to college,
but they never got him out. The guy was phenomenal,
and I hope he spends the rest of his time
as a mentor to young players. This is the path
I went down, just like you're about to go down.
And don't think that it's not going to come back
to bite in the butt at some point, because it

(07:57):
always does. And I think that's one of the things
that I hope. I hope Johnny sincere and for now
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt that
he is. But Diego Pavia is a very brash player.
And if you are the best player on your team,
you don't need to give the other team bulletin board
material to go in. You need to act like you've
been there. And if you win the game at the

(08:18):
end of the day, you look up and go scoreboard.
And if you don't win the game, you shake the
other guy's hands, say see you next time, and you
go about your business professionally. You don't do it the
way he's doing it by saying, if if we play
our game, we're gonna win by as many points as
we want.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, that's that's not gonna happen. Yeah, and real quick.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
You know. The the I would say the difference between
as well with Diego Pavia is, you know, you're playing
at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't think even.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
If Diego Pavia has that ego, you know, cocky mentality,
you're at Vanderbilt, dude, like, how how are you going
to get in trouble at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's not as if, again being.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Remember it, remember Vanderbilt in the SEC to improve the
great point exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
So it's not as if Diego Pavia.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
We're assuming he's not, you know, and I'm not calling
Johnny Manziel stupid, but he's you know, he's pretty smart.
He's a pretty smart cookie in order to be eligible
to be at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
All Right, Texas A and M's got a game this
weekend we'll talk about is the Mississippi State a trap game?
And our NFL picks are coming up at the top
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