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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Back to the Oklahoma City thoughts. In the game with Minnesota,
I think Shae is. You can accuse him all you
want of baiting the officials to call fouls against the
other team and for him, but I do believe it's
kind of a master perfecting his craft at a really
good level. And I don't know that there's you know,
we were talking yesterday, who does Cooper Flag remind us
(00:26):
of when it comes to NBA players, And we couldn't
really come up with somebody that was exactly like him.
We threw a few names out there, but I don't
know that there's anybody that I've seen in the last
several years that plays basketball the way Shae does. With
a change of direction and change of speed and the
ability to go in either direction.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's kind of amazing to watch. You know what, I
would say, maybe Allen Iverson.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, a bigger version of Alan Iverson.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Would say probably Ai ai Is. Probably that's a good comparison.
Here's what here's what Kobe always says. And when Kobe,
when Kobe.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Was a lot, if he talked about the guys that
he liked playing against and the toughest guys, he always
signaled that Alan Iverson, because Alan was very much like
him and the work ethic that he had and the
respect for the game. Now, he didn't like formal practices.
We know that he probably didn't like practices with Larry
Brown because they were pretty intense talking about we're talking
about practice. But on his own, Alan Iverson would go
(01:24):
shoot three four hundred shots to day, like everybody else
that's been great would. But Kobe Bryant once said, if
Allan Iverson were six foot seven, he'd be the greatest
player that ever left. And the fact that he was,
they said he was six feet tall. I'm not buying that,
so I'm thinking five ten and a half max.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, but you don't play barefoot. So that's why they
are the extra engine a.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Half or two. I don't think saw.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They didn't measure his heart either, and Allan Iverson did that.
Allan Iverson, he was really fortunate that he had a
lot of, if you want to call them this angels
in his corner because the biggest one was his agent.
And when he went and filed for divorce and didn't,
they said, well I can't pay her and I can't
pay child support.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I have no money.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He goes Yeah, you got a hundred million dollars where
I don't have that bank account. Yeah, I kept that one.
That's your rebought money. And I knew you were going
to blow it. And now I'm going to give it
to her and settle this divorce, and she's going to
give you an allowance. You're not giving her one. And
he was like, all right, cool, you're right. I would
have blown it. If I know I had another one
hundred million, it would have gotten spent too. Yeah, and
not anything to make fun about. But that's just a
(02:28):
lot of times when you've never had money, you really
don't know how to manage it. And when you grow
up in an area and people, at some point it
becomes monopoly money when you can buy anything you want,
you just keep buying. You never think about that it's
going to sometimes run out.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And that's why I think you and I both agree
at times, especially with college college athletes now with nil
when when some of these certain athletes have grown up
in an environment where they have.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Not been accustomed to or fortunate enough to have.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
At least a stable income within the family, we don't
fault them for Hey, you're gonna go take care of
your parents to go transfer, to go get paid somewhere else.
It's understandable, but it's the ones that are basically the
mercenaries to where it's like, oh, well, I'm gonna go
over here because they're gonna pay me more money.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Just because that's one of the things I want to
throw out here. We have a few more minutes in
this segment. There is a lot of people that think
Oklahoma City will be one of the players and the
Yanna sweepstakes. If he decides in Milwaukee, decides he's going
to be traded in the next month or so, And
if I were Oklahoma City number one, I would not
I would not give up my young players for him.
If you look at their payroll for the next several
(03:43):
years now, they're gonna pay Shae the Supermax if that's
what he wants here pretty soon. But what if Shae
does what Jalen Broughtson did and say, you know what,
I don't need seventy three million, forty five million of
years is fine. I want to surround myself with a
great team. Listen, I grew up in Oklahoma City and
it's a completely different town than it used to be.
(04:05):
The fact that they have casino gambling and legalized marijuana.
That would have never happened in the eighties and the
seventies with what the administration that was in place there,
that would not even been an open for discussion. You
are going straight to hell if you think about either
one of those things, and now that they've changed that,
and not that I care about either one. That's a
lifestyle that you can choose to have or not. But
(04:27):
Oklahoma City has changed a lot in the forty years
since I've almost since I've been here.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But it's not a terrible place to live.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
It's a little cold and windy in the wintertime, and
you got to dodge a few tornadoes in the spring,
but it is there are a lot of things to do,
especially if you like outdoor recreation and stuff. If he
likes it there and wants to stay there, forty five
to fifty million will spend almost as good as seventy
three million will, which is about the average that he
can get with his supermacs, and they could build a
(04:56):
dynasty in that city, very much like what the Spurs
did did in San Antonio for the next five to
seven years. Not that they're going to win the championship
every single year, but they could be in the conversation
every single year and to be able to pay a
homegrun if they want to, or be able to pay
Jay Dubb and some of their other players and really
expand their roster. Cason Wallace, I think, is a really
(05:18):
good role player. That team is so good that Cason Wallace,
who was a lottery pick, is coming off the bench,
but he's getting solid minutes and he's making.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Good plays as well.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So I think a lot of people in the NBA,
especially players, get upset with other players when they do
what Jalen Brunson did and take the player or the
team friendly contract. And I don't know how I would
react if somebody said, do you want fifty million or
seventy million? Either one would be fine with me. But
(05:48):
I'm not an athlete that's looking to be the richest
person in the world or whatever that goal is. I
would think it would be a lot more fun to
make fifty million and be in contention every year than
to make seventy million. And if you're don't score fifty
every night, you're not gonna win.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, that that's where And I have no idea what
what Shaye is gonna do. It was kind of a
just an out of blue thing, an abarition that that
Jalen Brunson did taking the contract extension the year earlier,
because if he had waited the extra year, he would
(06:24):
have been hundred million more to make the one.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Hundred million more or whatever I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I could see in a scenario to where if if
Shae wasn't already making what he's making this year, he's
making thirty five, next year he'll make thirty eight, and
then the year after that he's making forty, and then
that's where his contract ends.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
On this current contract.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
He could get the extension with the Supermax.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This summer he is eligible for the Supermax, which I
believe it was four years, two hundred and ninety six million, which.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Does that start immediately, But as I get tacked onto
these three years, that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Would get tacked on the twenty six twenty seven, which
would be the last year of this corps.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But let's say he goes to them and says, okay,
let's just make let's just ramp this up to fifty
million average for the next four years and save twenty
three million so that you can spend that on other players,
And as long as you have an agreement between ownership
and management that if I take twenty million less, you're
not going to put it in your pocket. You're going
to give it to other players so the team can
be competitive. I don't see what the problem is that.
(07:23):
I know a lot of people. There's probably a lot
of players in the NBA that don't. They're not happy
when and including the leaders of the union that are
not happy with Jalen Brunson for that. But again, how
how much is enough? And how much more important to
your legacy is winning as much as making as much
money as you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, again, I could see a scenario where he does
take less, maybe it's even like fifty five or sixty,
because he's again he's already making thirty five plus. But
if he was still like early on on a rookie
contract where it was only like maybe ten.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, well shake Gildes Alex and doesn't have one hundred
million dollars in the bank right now sitting on whatever
it is it's going to be guaranteed income for life,
then he's got the wrong financial guy, or he's just
not managing his life very well. I'm sorry if You've
made twenty five thirty five forty million, and I know
half of that's going to taxes and other stuff. But
you don't have to live like you're the the you know,
(08:20):
the king of whatever country you can, you can still
have a great life. And especially in Oklahoma City, a
big mansion doesn't cost nearly as much there as it
does somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm just hoping that Shade does take the route of
Jalen Brunson and decides to say, Yeah, I can have
a bunch of money, but at what cost is it
going to cost me?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And what cost is it going to cost the team?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Because if he only takes fifty five or sixty, then
maybe the alien decides to say, because I think you
and I are both in agreement, at some point, Victor's
probably going to be eligible for one hundred million, eighty
to ninety or on. Somebody is going to get it.
Getting somebody's going to take that, and that's.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Because they'll be in the purgatory.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Well, if I was in Washington and I could, but
here's the thing is, if I was playing for a
bad team for three or four years, but I was
the best player and I won MVP or I got
on a first team All NBA where I was eligible
for that. My thought would be still, I can play
here and suck for the next ten years at seventy
five million a year, or I can go someplace else
(09:22):
and win at fifty. And I've always asked this question
that I'll continue to ask. What is it that you
want to do with seventy five that you can't do
at fifty? I don't know that. I don't think there's
a whole lot more you can do except just hoard money.
And at some point in time, winning has got the matter.
I mean, Josh Allen did that for the Buffalo Bills.
Patrick Mahomes does that with Kansas City. He hasn't broken
(09:43):
their bank and he's doing just fine. And I'm sure
State Farm and whoever else wants to use him as endorsements,
he can make up the rest. All Right, there's a
really cool golf story to share with you. We got
to get to We got Billy Joel on a bobblehead.
I didn't know he played baseball, but we'll talk about that.
And Alex Cora is you know a little bit of
hot water with Boston media all that coming up. It's
(10:03):
the Andy Everage Show on the tickets
Back to the Oklahoma City thoughts. In the game with Minnesota,
I think Shae is. You can accuse him all you
want of baiting the officials to call fouls against the
other team and for him, but I do believe it's
kind of a master perfecting his craft at a really
good level. And I don't know that there's you know,
we were talking yesterday, who does Cooper Flag remind us
(00:26):
of when it comes to NBA players, And we couldn't
really come up with somebody that was exactly like him.
We threw a few names out there, but I don't
know that there's anybody that I've seen in the last
several years that plays basketball the way Shae does. With
a change of direction and change of speed and the
ability to go in either direction.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's kind of amazing to watch. You know what, I
would say, maybe Allen Iverson.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, a bigger version of Alan Iverson.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Would say probably Ai ai Is. Probably that's a good comparison.
Here's what here's what Kobe always says. And when Kobe,
when Kobe.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Was a lot, if he talked about the guys that
he liked playing against and the toughest guys, he always
signaled that Alan Iverson, because Alan was very much like
him and the work ethic that he had and the
respect for the game. Now, he didn't like formal practices.
We know that he probably didn't like practices with Larry
Brown because they were pretty intense talking about we're talking
about practice. But on his own, Alan Iverson would go
(01:24):
shoot three four hundred shots to day, like everybody else
that's been great would. But Kobe Bryant once said, if
Allan Iverson were six foot seven, he'd be the greatest
player that ever left. And the fact that he was,
they said he was six feet tall. I'm not buying that,
so I'm thinking five ten and a half max.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, but you don't play barefoot. So that's why they
are the extra engine a.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Half or two. I don't think saw.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They didn't measure his heart either, and Allan Iverson did that.
Allan Iverson, he was really fortunate that he had a
lot of, if you want to call them this angels
in his corner because the biggest one was his agent.
And when he went and filed for divorce and didn't,
they said, well I can't pay her and I can't
pay child support.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I have no money.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He goes Yeah, you got a hundred million dollars where
I don't have that bank account. Yeah, I kept that one.
That's your rebought money. And I knew you were going
to blow it. And now I'm going to give it
to her and settle this divorce, and she's going to
give you an allowance. You're not giving her one. And
he was like, all right, cool, you're right. I would
have blown it. If I know I had another one
hundred million, it would have gotten spent too. Yeah, and
not anything to make fun about. But that's just a
(02:28):
lot of times when you've never had money, you really
don't know how to manage it. And when you grow
up in an area and people, at some point it
becomes monopoly money when you can buy anything you want,
you just keep buying. You never think about that it's
going to sometimes run out.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And that's why I think you and I both agree
at times, especially with college college athletes now with nil
when when some of these certain athletes have grown up
in an environment where they have.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Not been accustomed to or fortunate enough to have.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
At least a stable income within the family, we don't
fault them for Hey, you're gonna go take care of
your parents to go transfer, to go get paid somewhere else.
It's understandable, but it's the ones that are basically the
mercenaries to where it's like, oh, well, I'm gonna go
over here because they're gonna pay me more money.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Just because that's one of the things I want to
throw out here. We have a few more minutes in
this segment. There is a lot of people that think
Oklahoma City will be one of the players and the
Yanna sweepstakes. If he decides in Milwaukee, decides he's going
to be traded in the next month or so, And
if I were Oklahoma City number one, I would not
I would not give up my young players for him.
If you look at their payroll for the next several
(03:43):
years now, they're gonna pay Shae the Supermax if that's
what he wants here pretty soon. But what if Shae
does what Jalen Broughtson did and say, you know what,
I don't need seventy three million, forty five million of
years is fine. I want to surround myself with a
great team. Listen, I grew up in Oklahoma City and
it's a completely different town than it used to be.
(04:05):
The fact that they have casino gambling and legalized marijuana.
That would have never happened in the eighties and the
seventies with what the administration that was in place there,
that would not even been an open for discussion. You
are going straight to hell if you think about either
one of those things, and now that they've changed that,
and not that I care about either one. That's a
lifestyle that you can choose to have or not. But
(04:27):
Oklahoma City has changed a lot in the forty years
since I've almost since I've been here.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But it's not a terrible place to live.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
It's a little cold and windy in the wintertime, and
you got to dodge a few tornadoes in the spring,
but it is there are a lot of things to do,
especially if you like outdoor recreation and stuff. If he
likes it there and wants to stay there, forty five
to fifty million will spend almost as good as seventy
three million will, which is about the average that he
can get with his supermacs, and they could build a
(04:56):
dynasty in that city, very much like what the Spurs
did did in San Antonio for the next five to
seven years. Not that they're going to win the championship
every single year, but they could be in the conversation
every single year and to be able to pay a
homegrun if they want to, or be able to pay
Jay Dubb and some of their other players and really
expand their roster. Cason Wallace, I think, is a really
(05:18):
good role player. That team is so good that Cason Wallace,
who was a lottery pick, is coming off the bench,
but he's getting solid minutes and he's making.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Good plays as well.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So I think a lot of people in the NBA,
especially players, get upset with other players when they do
what Jalen Brunson did and take the player or the
team friendly contract. And I don't know how I would
react if somebody said, do you want fifty million or
seventy million? Either one would be fine with me. But
(05:48):
I'm not an athlete that's looking to be the richest
person in the world or whatever that goal is. I
would think it would be a lot more fun to
make fifty million and be in contention every year than
to make seventy million. And if you're don't score fifty
every night, you're not gonna win.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, that that's where And I have no idea what
what Shaye is gonna do. It was kind of a
just an out of blue thing, an abarition that that
Jalen Brunson did taking the contract extension the year earlier,
because if he had waited the extra year, he would
(06:24):
have been hundred million more to make the one.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Hundred million more or whatever I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I could see in a scenario to where if if
Shae wasn't already making what he's making this year, he's
making thirty five, next year he'll make thirty eight, and
then the year after that he's making forty, and then
that's where his contract ends.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
On this current contract.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
He could get the extension with the Supermax.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This summer he is eligible for the Supermax, which I
believe it was four years, two hundred and ninety six million, which.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Does that start immediately, But as I get tacked onto
these three years, that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Would get tacked on the twenty six twenty seven, which
would be the last year of this corps.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But let's say he goes to them and says, okay,
let's just make let's just ramp this up to fifty
million average for the next four years and save twenty
three million so that you can spend that on other players,
And as long as you have an agreement between ownership
and management that if I take twenty million less, you're
not going to put it in your pocket. You're going
to give it to other players so the team can
be competitive. I don't see what the problem is that.
(07:23):
I know a lot of people. There's probably a lot
of players in the NBA that don't. They're not happy
when and including the leaders of the union that are
not happy with Jalen Brunson for that. But again, how
how much is enough? And how much more important to
your legacy is winning as much as making as much
money as you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, again, I could see a scenario where he does
take less, maybe it's even like fifty five or sixty,
because he's again he's already making thirty five plus. But
if he was still like early on on a rookie
contract where it was only like maybe ten.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, well shake Gildes Alex and doesn't have one hundred
million dollars in the bank right now sitting on whatever
it is it's going to be guaranteed income for life,
then he's got the wrong financial guy, or he's just
not managing his life very well. I'm sorry if You've
made twenty five thirty five forty million, and I know
half of that's going to taxes and other stuff. But
you don't have to live like you're the the you know,
(08:20):
the king of whatever country you can, you can still
have a great life. And especially in Oklahoma City, a
big mansion doesn't cost nearly as much there as it
does somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm just hoping that Shade does take the route of
Jalen Brunson and decides to say, Yeah, I can have
a bunch of money, but at what cost is it
going to cost me?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And what cost is it going to cost the team?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Because if he only takes fifty five or sixty, then
maybe the alien decides to say, because I think you
and I are both in agreement, at some point, Victor's
probably going to be eligible for one hundred million, eighty
to ninety or on. Somebody is going to get it.
Getting somebody's going to take that, and that's.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Because they'll be in the purgatory.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Well, if I was in Washington and I could, but
here's the thing is, if I was playing for a
bad team for three or four years, but I was
the best player and I won MVP or I got
on a first team All NBA where I was eligible
for that. My thought would be still, I can play
here and suck for the next ten years at seventy
five million a year, or I can go someplace else
(09:22):
and win at fifty. And I've always asked this question
that I'll continue to ask. What is it that you
want to do with seventy five that you can't do
at fifty? I don't know that. I don't think there's
a whole lot more you can do except just hoard money.
And at some point in time, winning has got the matter.
I mean, Josh Allen did that for the Buffalo Bills.
Patrick Mahomes does that with Kansas City. He hasn't broken
(09:43):
their bank and he's doing just fine. And I'm sure
State Farm and whoever else wants to use him as endorsements,
he can make up the rest. All Right, there's a
really cool golf story to share with you. We got
to get to We got Billy Joel on a bobblehead.
I didn't know he played baseball, but we'll talk about that.
And Alex Cora is you know a little bit of
hot water with Boston media all that coming up. It's
(10:03):
the Andy Everage Show on the tickets
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