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Speaker 1 (00:04):
So book stuff down once yesterday that for family reasons,
he has decided to go back he's living, he's leaving
Live golf. You do you sound like you're being sarcastic. Oh,
I'm very much being it because the golfers are gone
twenty weeks a year.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
If you only worked twenty weeks a year and you
decide you need to be around your family more, I'm
guessing they probably want you to go play more golf.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, we talked about yesterday with Puma, like his career,
his career earning quote unquote career earnings with both live
was like north of one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, that was what I gave him.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, guess collectively though, you have to imagine some sort
of like structural thing that made him want to go
back to the PGA.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Or it could be that he knows that Live is
like kind of like numbered.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well here's there's the deal with Brooks and I'm I've
had people tell me this and I've kind of surmised
this as well, that when he decided to go to Live,
he was in the midst of a knee injury and
a wrist injury and nothing was working. He wasn't healing,
and he had gone to several doctors, and I guess
they offered him fifty million or seventy five million or
(01:04):
whatever they offered him to leave and to be on Live.
And he sit there and goes, this is money I
can put in the bank, and if I can't fix
my wrist in my knee, then I can retire. And
I've got seventy five million bucks in the bank. And
that's the reason he left. And I think there's two
or three others that are on Live that have degenerate
injuries that are never going to heal, and they just
(01:24):
didn't know how much time they had left. And they're
young people. They're Brooks is age. I think Brooks right
now is around thirty four to thirty five years old,
And so they were they're not getting to a they
were at a point where they just didn't know if
physically they were going to be able to continue, and
here was a way to get bailed out just in
case they couldn't. And shortly after he joined Live and
(01:47):
played in a couple of majors. Whatever doctor found him
miraculously cured him of both the knee and the wrist,
injury and he's been able to play pain free now.
He's played terrible golf the last couple of years, and
I think the reason why I played terrible golf is
because I don't think live is that competitive. There's there's
a handful of guys on the tour that are good,
(02:07):
and the rest are a bunch of people nobody's.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Ever heard of.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And although probably corn faery type players that may or
may not ever make it on the PGA Tour, and
not downgrading the corn fairy because there's a lot of
really good players there, they're not the household names, and
so he's not getting competition, and he's had some swing
issues and I don't probably didn't like the fact that
he had to do whatever he was told to do
(02:30):
by the Saudi government. As far as what he can
say and not say. Brooks is one of those guys
that kind of beats to his own drum. He does
whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and if he doesn't
like the way that you question something, he will tell
you I don't particularly like that question. He's very surly
with the media at times, and I don't think he
understands the conduit between them and his fans that he
(02:51):
could use them a lot more proactively if he would.
But the question is going to be does the PGA
Tour allow him to come back? And at what cost
to him? Does he have to come back Now? I
don't think he's going to give back some of the
seventy five million or whatever it was that Live gave him.
And not only has that money already been taxed, it's
already been invested.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Wherever it's going to be invested.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's an offshoreccount at this point.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I would Switzerland or the Bahamas, or the Caymans or
somewhere I'm sure, but anyway, here here's the penance that
I think that all of these golfers that are on Live,
if they want to come back, should do. Okay, you're
never going to give them to do something financially, but
you're going to have to give You're gonna have to
give up some of your time. And the PGA Tour
(03:36):
has always been about charity. So pick three or four
of their charities that that Valero has, or here's a deal.
Over the course of the next five years, you have
to play in every tournament on the PGA Tour. Now
that also may change because for charity, well, you get paid,
but you have to play. Like players will not play
(03:57):
every tournament. Right now, there's forty seven, forty five tournaments
on the PGHO and they're not going to play forty five.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Weeks a year.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But okay, pick ten tournaments that you're gonna play every
year and over the next five years, pick different tournaments
so that Houston and Dallas and Fort Worth and San
Antonio and Fort Lauderdale and all these sites get to
see you play. You're a celebrity that people want to
see who you are and want to want to see
you perform. So make sure that if you're going to
(04:25):
be come back, you got to play all of our tournaments,
or you have to do something for the charities. Years ago,
when players would take appearance money to go play in
Saudi Arabia or play in Dubai or Cutter or wherever
they played, the penance for them to do that was
not only do you have you got three exemptions a
year to do that, but you had to do something
for the charity of the tournament that you were missing.
(04:48):
So one year, Phil went to Saudi Arabia and it
was during the at and t Pebble Beach event. So
instead of doing instead of giving some kind of a
financial deal, he had to do a two day clinic
for AT and T and its corporate sponsors. So he
would AT and T would set up a retreat for
one hundred and fifty of its employees or whatever, and
(05:09):
Phil would go do a clinic and they'd play golf,
and Phil would drive around to every group and hit
two or three shots with them and spend the day
with AT and T employees and then make a donation
to the charities that AT and T represented. Those were
some of the things that you had to do to
take the three million dollars appearance fee that Saudi Arabia
or Cutter or whatever would do. Tiger had to do
(05:30):
the same thing. So that to me is get these
guys back.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I'm kind of curious to see what the twenty twenty
seven schedules going to look like, because I think it's
going to be reduced fields and fewer tournaments, and a
lot of the fall tournaments may still exist, but not
necessarily under the umbrella of the PGA Tour. They may
dissolve into some other kind of an event somewhere between
Corn Ferry and PGA tour status, and we may not
(05:55):
see some of the January events because the tour seems
like they don't want to compete against the NFL. Yeah,
so we're gonna probably see some change in all of that.
But I do think we need Kopka, and I hope
at some point d Chambeau and others. But I also
think there's a bunch of golfers on the tour that
set looked up there and went wow, Tigers won fifteen
majors and he's won eighty two regular tournaments. I'm never
(06:18):
going to get there, so who cares about history. I'm
just gonna go take the money. And and those are
the ones that I hope figure out a way because
again there's it's basically Rys and John Rahm, Cameron Smith,
Joaque Neeman, a couple others out there that we want
to come back.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
The rest come back if you want. I don't care.
They probably didn't get a bunch of money in the
first place.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
To go back to your question, because I think you
posed the right question. If you're the PJA, do you
allow them in now?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
The obvious answer would be yes, because whether you like
brus Kapka or not, whether you like his brashes or not,
he is undoubtedly.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Amongst the world to draw. He is a draw. He's
one of the faces of golf.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
There's there's Scottie, there's Roar, there's Bryson, There's there's Brooks,
there's like there's like five or six guys.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And then the Tiger. But he's not playing right now,
right well.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I mean, yeah, Tiger also is another guy you mentioned
you talk about dealing with injuries longevity.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
He's dealing with injury after injury after injury.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
He's been beat up.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
But like with Brooks though, is that I like the
idea that you mentioned about, like you know, like for
the next like how many years, to alternate tournaments. It
allows him to draw because like you said, uh, for example,
San Antonio, we don't always get the majority of draws
from like the main golfers.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
We get some.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Sometimes getting more, get more now because of the Masters
the next week, right.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But like in that same regard, like essentially forcing him
to like you have if there's forty five tournaments, like
we'll go through like a three year deal where he
can play fifteen tournaments. You alternate fifteen every three years,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't or even even over five years, I'd be
good with that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Because even if you're not a golf fan, if you're
someone from Houston who's like, oh, I know Brooks, I
know him from the Happy Gilmour movie or whatever like
that's that's a way to bring him in.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
K Metcalf's in the news this week. We'll talk more
about that on the Ticket
So book stuff down once yesterday that for family reasons,
he has decided to go back he's living, he's leaving
Live golf. You do you sound like you're being sarcastic. Oh,
I'm very much being it because the golfers are gone
twenty weeks a year.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
If you only worked twenty weeks a year and you
decide you need to be around your family more, I'm
guessing they probably want you to go play more golf.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, we talked about yesterday with Puma, like his career,
his career earning quote unquote career earnings with both live
was like north of one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, that was what I gave him.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, guess collectively though, you have to imagine some sort
of like structural thing that made him want to go
back to the PGA.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Or it could be that he knows that Live is
like kind of like numbered.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well here's there's the deal with Brooks and I'm I've
had people tell me this and I've kind of surmised
this as well, that when he decided to go to Live,
he was in the midst of a knee injury and
a wrist injury and nothing was working. He wasn't healing,
and he had gone to several doctors, and I guess
they offered him fifty million or seventy five million or
(01:04):
whatever they offered him to leave and to be on Live.
And he sit there and goes, this is money I
can put in the bank, and if I can't fix
my wrist in my knee, then I can retire. And
I've got seventy five million bucks in the bank. And
that's the reason he left. And I think there's two
or three others that are on Live that have degenerate
injuries that are never going to heal, and they just
(01:24):
didn't know how much time they had left. And they're
young people. They're Brooks is age. I think Brooks right
now is around thirty four to thirty five years old,
And so they were they're not getting to a they
were at a point where they just didn't know if
physically they were going to be able to continue, and
here was a way to get bailed out just in
case they couldn't. And shortly after he joined Live and
(01:47):
played in a couple of majors. Whatever doctor found him
miraculously cured him of both the knee and the wrist,
injury and he's been able to play pain free now.
He's played terrible golf the last couple of years, and
I think the reason why I played terrible golf is
because I don't think live is that competitive. There's there's
a handful of guys on the tour that are good,
(02:07):
and the rest are a bunch of people nobody's.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Ever heard of.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And although probably corn faery type players that may or
may not ever make it on the PGA Tour, and
not downgrading the corn fairy because there's a lot of
really good players there, they're not the household names, and
so he's not getting competition, and he's had some swing
issues and I don't probably didn't like the fact that
he had to do whatever he was told to do
(02:30):
by the Saudi government. As far as what he can
say and not say. Brooks is one of those guys
that kind of beats to his own drum. He does
whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and if he doesn't
like the way that you question something, he will tell
you I don't particularly like that question. He's very surly
with the media at times, and I don't think he
understands the conduit between them and his fans that he
(02:51):
could use them a lot more proactively if he would.
But the question is going to be does the PGA
Tour allow him to come back? And at what cost
to him? Does he have to come back Now? I
don't think he's going to give back some of the
seventy five million or whatever it was that Live gave him.
And not only has that money already been taxed, it's
already been invested.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Wherever it's going to be invested.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's an offshoreccount at this point.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I would Switzerland or the Bahamas, or the Caymans or
somewhere I'm sure, but anyway, here here's the penance that
I think that all of these golfers that are on Live,
if they want to come back, should do. Okay, you're
never going to give them to do something financially, but
you're going to have to give You're gonna have to
give up some of your time. And the PGA Tour
(03:36):
has always been about charity. So pick three or four
of their charities that that Valero has, or here's a deal.
Over the course of the next five years, you have
to play in every tournament on the PGA Tour. Now
that also may change because for charity, well, you get paid,
but you have to play. Like players will not play
(03:57):
every tournament. Right now, there's forty seven, forty five tournaments
on the PGHO and they're not going to play forty five.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Weeks a year.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But okay, pick ten tournaments that you're gonna play every
year and over the next five years, pick different tournaments
so that Houston and Dallas and Fort Worth and San
Antonio and Fort Lauderdale and all these sites get to
see you play. You're a celebrity that people want to
see who you are and want to want to see
you perform. So make sure that if you're going to
(04:25):
be come back, you got to play all of our tournaments,
or you have to do something for the charities. Years ago,
when players would take appearance money to go play in
Saudi Arabia or play in Dubai or Cutter or wherever
they played, the penance for them to do that was
not only do you have you got three exemptions a
year to do that, but you had to do something
for the charity of the tournament that you were missing.
(04:48):
So one year, Phil went to Saudi Arabia and it
was during the at and t Pebble Beach event. So
instead of doing instead of giving some kind of a
financial deal, he had to do a two day clinic
for AT and T and its corporate sponsors. So he
would AT and T would set up a retreat for
one hundred and fifty of its employees or whatever, and
(05:09):
Phil would go do a clinic and they'd play golf,
and Phil would drive around to every group and hit
two or three shots with them and spend the day
with AT and T employees and then make a donation
to the charities that AT and T represented. Those were
some of the things that you had to do to
take the three million dollars appearance fee that Saudi Arabia
or Cutter or whatever would do. Tiger had to do
(05:30):
the same thing. So that to me is get these
guys back.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I'm kind of curious to see what the twenty twenty
seven schedules going to look like, because I think it's
going to be reduced fields and fewer tournaments, and a
lot of the fall tournaments may still exist, but not
necessarily under the umbrella of the PGA Tour. They may
dissolve into some other kind of an event somewhere between
Corn Ferry and PGA tour status, and we may not
(05:55):
see some of the January events because the tour seems
like they don't want to compete against the NFL. Yeah,
so we're gonna probably see some change in all of that.
But I do think we need Kopka, and I hope
at some point d Chambeau and others. But I also
think there's a bunch of golfers on the tour that
set looked up there and went wow, Tigers won fifteen
majors and he's won eighty two regular tournaments. I'm never
(06:18):
going to get there, so who cares about history. I'm
just gonna go take the money. And and those are
the ones that I hope figure out a way because
again there's it's basically Rys and John Rahm, Cameron Smith,
Joaque Neeman, a couple others out there that we want
to come back.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
The rest come back if you want. I don't care.
They probably didn't get a bunch of money in the
first place.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
To go back to your question, because I think you
posed the right question. If you're the PJA, do you
allow them in now?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
The obvious answer would be yes, because whether you like
brus Kapka or not, whether you like his brashes or not,
he is undoubtedly.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Amongst the world to draw. He is a draw. He's
one of the faces of golf.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
There's there's Scottie, there's Roar, there's Bryson, There's there's Brooks,
there's like there's like five or six guys.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And then the Tiger. But he's not playing right now,
right well.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I mean, yeah, Tiger also is another guy you mentioned
you talk about dealing with injuries longevity.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
He's dealing with injury after injury after injury.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
He's been beat up.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
But like with Brooks though, is that I like the
idea that you mentioned about, like you know, like for
the next like how many years, to alternate tournaments. It
allows him to draw because like you said, uh, for example,
San Antonio, we don't always get the majority of draws
from like the main golfers.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
We get some.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Sometimes getting more, get more now because of the Masters
the next week, right.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But like in that same regard, like essentially forcing him
to like you have if there's forty five tournaments, like
we'll go through like a three year deal where he
can play fifteen tournaments. You alternate fifteen every three years,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't or even even over five years, I'd be
good with that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Because even if you're not a golf fan, if you're
someone from Houston who's like, oh, I know Brooks, I
know him from the Happy Gilmour movie or whatever like
that's that's a way to bring him in.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
K Metcalf's in the news this week. We'll talk more
about that on the Ticket
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