July 16, 2025 • 13 mins
If Brian Schottenheimer doesn’t work out in Dallas, a surprise name could take over.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Here we go into our number three of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank you for spinning your afternoon with us as we
get through all the sports topics of the day.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Dot Garrett joined us earlier in the day.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We've also had some discussions about the Bradley Beal move
to the Clippers Turnberry as a potential site for the
Open Championship down the road WNBA News, and we're going
to get into some Memphis basketball discussion and talk about
their latest dealings that have gotten them in hot water.
But today on the Colin Cowhard Show, Colin was talking
(00:40):
with Albert Breer from the Monday Morning Quarterback and basically
they were discussing would Nick Saban entertain a return to
the NFL after Greg McElroy and Lane Kiffin have both
been quoted recently as saying, I know coach wants to
get back into the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He misses it so much.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
As I talked about in the four o'clock Hour when
Bob Stoops left OU in the summer of twenty seventeen,
Nick Saban was on with Dan Patrick and Dan Patrick
broke the news that Bob Stoops was retiring, and Bob
talked about wanting to have a life outside of football,
and that his dad died as a lifelong football coach
and he didn't want to be that guy, and he
(01:23):
had things he wanted to do outside of football. Lincoln
Riley has commented over the years, I think Lincoln's about
two forty three years old right now, and he said,
I have no plans to coach past fifty. I'm saving
all my money and I'm going to retire and I'm
going to do something else. We'll see if he actually
does that when they get to that stage of his life.
(01:45):
I understand what Nick Saban, But Nick Saban was on
the Dan Patrick's show that day forty one. Yeah, so
he's got ten more years to coach for Lincoln Riley.
So Nick Saban was on the Dan Patrick Show that
day when Bob Stoops resigned and Dan asked him, do
you ever envision yourself not coaching or how would you
look at retirement? And Nick's response was, I am I've
(02:11):
never not been a part of the team since I
was eight years old, little league, high school, college, and
then I was a coach, and I've been I've had
a routine that involves being around the team, and that
at this time he would have been sixty five, sixty
six years old, for basically fifty eight years of my life,
and so I can't imagine not waking up tomorrow not
(02:32):
having a team to go to. And I've always equated
that kind of with kind of always equated that with
with with players when they don't want to retire. It's
being around the team, it's being around the group. I
can't wait to to be around my teammates. All of
(02:52):
those things were I've always been the reason why players
shy away from retirement. And we know that Nick Saban
left Alabama when he left it because he was tired
of every player in every player's parent basically saying how
much are you going to pay my kid to come
to Alabama? Not are you going to develop him? Not
going to be in the pros? Not what class is
(03:14):
he going to go to? Are you going to keep
him out of trouble? It's where's our money? And he
and his wife just got tired of doing it after
years and years and years of feeling like they were.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Actually developing players.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So today on his show, Colin Coward said, I can
envision a scenario where Brian Schottenheimer is in his quote
was over his Skis won't be able to figure this out.
The Cowboys will have a disastrous season, They'll still have
a decent roster next year, and after the season's over,
Jerry Jones will hire Nick Saban to run the team.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Number One, Nick Saban, even if he did give total
give up total control of player personnel, is probably not
going to coach the Dallas Cowboys. But I don't think
Jerry Joe was what hire him, because here's what I've
always said about Jerry Jones. The owner, Jerry Jones wants
to win a Super Bowl and get Jerry Jones the credit.
(04:11):
I found Dak Prescott, I found Tony Romo, I found
who I drafted, Joe Milton. If he ever gets in
the game and performs, well, oh he didn't draft it
or traded for him. Yeah, But I went and got
Joe Milton because I got an eye for talent. This
guy's going to help us down the road when Dak's done.
I went out and got Ceedee Lamb. I'm the one
(04:33):
that got Micah Parsons. I'm a football guy. And then
Jimmy Johnson won me a Super Bowl, and Barry Switzer
won me a Super Bowl with Jerry's guys, and then
Chad Gaily failed and Dave Campo failed, and Bill Parcells
didn't get it done, and neither did the Wade Phillips
or Jason Garrett or McCarthy or and now I'm on
(04:57):
to Brian Schottenheimer. So let's just give this example. What
if he did hire Nick Saban, and what if the
Cowboys did win an NBA change an NFL championship. Who's
getting credit Jerry or Nick. There's no scenario where it's
a good thing for Jerry to hire Nick Saban. If
(05:19):
he hires him and he fails, it's a retired football
coach that should have stayed retired. If he wins, it's see,
I told you couldn't win unless you had a real
coach and real football guys around your team. There is
zero chance that Jerry Jones hires Nick Saban unless he
changes the way he's gonna do things.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I think it's just hilarious because again we talked
about it at the start of the show. This is
how you know when certain shows are in the dog
day's summer, which we are, is when you're pulling stuff out.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Like this and I get it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know, I know Lane Kiffen and Greg McElroy have
a friendship and relationship with Saban, but I haven't. I
haven't gotten any anything besides those two any inklings, any word,
any any anything whatsoever from Nick Saban or anybody else
(06:15):
that he has even mentioned the fact that he even
looks like he wants to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know, there was the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
About the potential that he could oversee the commission that
Trump wanted to do for he didn't want to do that.
So it's like he's getting paid, however much, he's getting
paid to do his couple of times on on on ESPN,
and he doesn't have to worry about catering to seventeen
eighteen year olds and saying, hey, coach, I know I
(06:42):
haven't played a down for you yet, but I want
a million dollars. I want a million dollars. And he's
he's just like, what are we doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So well, the story goes that shortly after they lost
in twenty twenty two or twenty three, uh in January
of twenty four, he put everybody in.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
He invited all.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
The recruits to his house and he was entertaining the
recruits and his wife was entertaining the parents, and the
only question the parents had was how much does my
son get? How much money do we get to come
to Alabama? And for a guy that I think that
it is as classy as you can and recruited as
fairly as you can and did all the things that
(07:26):
everybody expects you to do as a coach. And I
want to develop players so that they can get to
the next level or they can better themselves as a
football player, better themselves as a student.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's no longer what my job is.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
My job is to come up with a bunch of
money and pay somebody a bunch of money to make
sure that they stay on my team for four years.
And I don't think that Alabama's going to win. I
had this discussion, who has them? Does Alabama? Alabama may
not even have as much money as we think they do.
I've said for a while that it's It's It's Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Florida,
(08:02):
Tennessee are the five schools with the most money. Alabama's got.
It's gonna have a lot of boosters that get that
share their money with with Auburn, so that money that
State's gonna get fractioned a little bit. Alabama is still
the school of record, if you will. I mean, there's
big brother little brother there, and Alabama's definitely big brother.
But I I don't know that Alabama can compete with
(08:24):
Texas financially. They may, they may be able to, but
they certainly aren't as big at state and I don't
think they have as as deep a pockets.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't think anybody in that state does other than
in that league that does other than Georgia.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, trying to find it, but I just I mean,
Nick Saban is in his seventies. Like you mentioned, he
at some point wants to call it quits because he's
going to be working.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's not how it is for him right now.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
He gets to work four months out of the year,
occasionally do a couple of hits every now and then
throughout throughout the dead season, but he doesn't have to
be three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
It is a grueling job at.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Twenty hours a day.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
At his age, It's like, I think you're going to
see to stop. I think you're going to see more
and more coaches get out of the game early because
of all of this, and it is a young man's game.
I think Lincoln Riley is I'll be surprised if he
quits at fifty, but I will be surprised if he
quits at fifty five to sixty. I look at what's
(09:34):
happening with at UTSA, and I think the one thing
that is giving Coach Trailer the salvation is that he
has built a culture where everybody wants to stay, even
if they can make money someplace else. And I don't
know that that's sustainable. I mean, i'd like for it.
I'd like to think that it is. I'd like to
think that that will last forever. But there's a really
(09:56):
good possibility that someday ten or twelve guys won't take
culture route and we'll take the money. And I and
even even he has said, I don't blame anybody for
leaving when they're getting that kind of cash. If he
and a lot of other coaches have said, if I
was twenty two, twenty three years old and somebody offered
me a half a million dollars to switch schools and
(10:18):
the other school couldn't match, I'd leave. And to me,
it comes down when what coaches want is a fair
chance to compete, and when they feel like the fair
chance to compete is gone, that's when they want to
go someplace else or they want to move up. If
you're a if you're a school a coach at an
FCS school and you want to in your in your
(10:38):
goal in life is to win an NCAA championship. Well,
as soon as you get the opportunity to move up
to the next level, you're going to go. And as
soon as you get the opportunity to do whatever it
is at the level after that, you're going to go.
But I think that there's a lot of coaches out
there that are going to be content staying at a
lower level because there's going to be less up They're
not going to have the budgets to get.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
All the players.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So if they can win an FCS championship, maybe that's
just as good as winning an FBS championship.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Because coaching is coaching.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I get to be around a team, whereas if I
if I ascend to being the coach of Alabama or Georgia,
I got boosters, I got players, I got the best
players in the in the and I got a payroll.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
That's bigger than my staff. Now, so this is from
the Wall Street Journal earlier this year, and this is
just talking about SC teams and how much they would
be worth in general, not necessarily you know the revenue,
but I don't know who. Number one is probably either
Ohio State and Michigan. But number two, and this is
just what the Wall Street Journal has them classified as,
(11:40):
is how much they would be worth. Texas at number
two is at one point eight nine seven billion dollars.
Alabama is at eleven at only eight hundred and forty
six million, So that is too who was after Texas
And this is just SEC teams. The next SEC team
would be Georgia at four at one point three.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, Ohio State and Michigan are going to be one
and two then or or.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Maybe perhaps yeah yeah, but this is just what the
SEC teams are are worth. You know, you have Texas
at two, Georgia at four, l s U at six.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
See I would I would put l s U down further.
The state of Louisiana is not a rich state. There
are pockets of people who are rich, but it doesn't
have and maybe ls u's community does, but I know
that there's a there's a pocket of boosters like in
Ruston and Louisiana Tech that keep that school going, but
they don't get a lot of state funding. And the
(12:38):
same thing with Lafayette with the Louisiana and the same
thing in Baton Rouge with l s U. But it's
there's what what what? What would l s u's net
worth be?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
L s U's is one point zero six zero billion,
and Ohio state is number one according to to Wall
Street Journal at one point nine and some change.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So anyway, it is now an arms race until the
NCAA figures out a way to get an I trust
exemption and we make it a fair fight for everyone.
But I can't imagine Nick Saban going back to coaching
at seventy Well, it'll be seventy four next year and
not the seventy four.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
If you're in shape, you're in shape, and if you
think you can do it, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm not age discriminating here, but I just don't think
he wants to get back in the grind. The NFL
is a grind, just like college is.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You just don't have.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
You know how to have to do it in the
summertime as much as you do you have to do
some in the summer because you're always figuring out what
the playbook's going to be and your plan is going
to be. You have to baby sit one hundred athletes
at twenty four to seven, three sixty five when you're
in college. All right, Memphis basketball did something really stupid
and it also affected their volleyball program.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
We'll share that with you. Next, it's the Andy Everette Show.
On the ticket
Here we go into our number three of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank you for spinning your afternoon with us as we
get through all the sports topics of the day.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Dot Garrett joined us earlier in the day.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We've also had some discussions about the Bradley Beal move
to the Clippers Turnberry as a potential site for the
Open Championship down the road WNBA News, and we're going
to get into some Memphis basketball discussion and talk about
their latest dealings that have gotten them in hot water.
But today on the Colin Cowhard Show, Colin was talking
(00:40):
with Albert Breer from the Monday Morning Quarterback and basically
they were discussing would Nick Saban entertain a return to
the NFL after Greg McElroy and Lane Kiffin have both
been quoted recently as saying, I know coach wants to
get back into the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He misses it so much.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
As I talked about in the four o'clock Hour when
Bob Stoops left OU in the summer of twenty seventeen,
Nick Saban was on with Dan Patrick and Dan Patrick
broke the news that Bob Stoops was retiring, and Bob
talked about wanting to have a life outside of football,
and that his dad died as a lifelong football coach
and he didn't want to be that guy, and he
(01:23):
had things he wanted to do outside of football. Lincoln
Riley has commented over the years, I think Lincoln's about
two forty three years old right now, and he said,
I have no plans to coach past fifty. I'm saving
all my money and I'm going to retire and I'm
going to do something else. We'll see if he actually
does that when they get to that stage of his life.
(01:45):
I understand what Nick Saban, But Nick Saban was on
the Dan Patrick's show that day forty one. Yeah, so
he's got ten more years to coach for Lincoln Riley.
So Nick Saban was on the Dan Patrick Show that
day when Bob Stoops resigned and Dan asked him, do
you ever envision yourself not coaching or how would you
look at retirement? And Nick's response was, I am I've
(02:11):
never not been a part of the team since I
was eight years old, little league, high school, college, and
then I was a coach, and I've been I've had
a routine that involves being around the team, and that
at this time he would have been sixty five, sixty
six years old, for basically fifty eight years of my life,
and so I can't imagine not waking up tomorrow not
(02:32):
having a team to go to. And I've always equated
that kind of with kind of always equated that with
with with players when they don't want to retire. It's
being around the team, it's being around the group. I
can't wait to to be around my teammates. All of
(02:52):
those things were I've always been the reason why players
shy away from retirement. And we know that Nick Saban
left Alabama when he left it because he was tired
of every player in every player's parent basically saying how
much are you going to pay my kid to come
to Alabama? Not are you going to develop him? Not
going to be in the pros? Not what class is
(03:14):
he going to go to? Are you going to keep
him out of trouble? It's where's our money? And he
and his wife just got tired of doing it after
years and years and years of feeling like they were.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Actually developing players.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So today on his show, Colin Coward said, I can
envision a scenario where Brian Schottenheimer is in his quote
was over his Skis won't be able to figure this out.
The Cowboys will have a disastrous season, They'll still have
a decent roster next year, and after the season's over,
Jerry Jones will hire Nick Saban to run the team.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Number One, Nick Saban, even if he did give total
give up total control of player personnel, is probably not
going to coach the Dallas Cowboys. But I don't think
Jerry Joe was what hire him, because here's what I've
always said about Jerry Jones. The owner, Jerry Jones wants
to win a Super Bowl and get Jerry Jones the credit.
(04:11):
I found Dak Prescott, I found Tony Romo, I found
who I drafted, Joe Milton. If he ever gets in
the game and performs, well, oh he didn't draft it
or traded for him. Yeah, But I went and got
Joe Milton because I got an eye for talent. This
guy's going to help us down the road when Dak's done.
I went out and got Ceedee Lamb. I'm the one
(04:33):
that got Micah Parsons. I'm a football guy. And then
Jimmy Johnson won me a Super Bowl, and Barry Switzer
won me a Super Bowl with Jerry's guys, and then
Chad Gaily failed and Dave Campo failed, and Bill Parcells
didn't get it done, and neither did the Wade Phillips
or Jason Garrett or McCarthy or and now I'm on
(04:57):
to Brian Schottenheimer. So let's just give this example. What
if he did hire Nick Saban, and what if the
Cowboys did win an NBA change an NFL championship. Who's
getting credit Jerry or Nick. There's no scenario where it's
a good thing for Jerry to hire Nick Saban. If
(05:19):
he hires him and he fails, it's a retired football
coach that should have stayed retired. If he wins, it's see,
I told you couldn't win unless you had a real
coach and real football guys around your team. There is
zero chance that Jerry Jones hires Nick Saban unless he
changes the way he's gonna do things.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I think it's just hilarious because again we talked
about it at the start of the show. This is
how you know when certain shows are in the dog
day's summer, which we are, is when you're pulling stuff out.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Like this and I get it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know, I know Lane Kiffen and Greg McElroy have
a friendship and relationship with Saban, but I haven't. I
haven't gotten any anything besides those two any inklings, any word,
any any anything whatsoever from Nick Saban or anybody else
(06:15):
that he has even mentioned the fact that he even
looks like he wants to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know, there was the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
About the potential that he could oversee the commission that
Trump wanted to do for he didn't want to do that.
So it's like he's getting paid, however much, he's getting
paid to do his couple of times on on on ESPN,
and he doesn't have to worry about catering to seventeen
eighteen year olds and saying, hey, coach, I know I
(06:42):
haven't played a down for you yet, but I want
a million dollars. I want a million dollars. And he's
he's just like, what are we doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So well, the story goes that shortly after they lost
in twenty twenty two or twenty three, uh in January
of twenty four, he put everybody in.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
He invited all.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
The recruits to his house and he was entertaining the
recruits and his wife was entertaining the parents, and the
only question the parents had was how much does my
son get? How much money do we get to come
to Alabama? And for a guy that I think that
it is as classy as you can and recruited as
fairly as you can and did all the things that
(07:26):
everybody expects you to do as a coach. And I
want to develop players so that they can get to
the next level or they can better themselves as a
football player, better themselves as a student.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's no longer what my job is.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
My job is to come up with a bunch of
money and pay somebody a bunch of money to make
sure that they stay on my team for four years.
And I don't think that Alabama's going to win. I
had this discussion, who has them? Does Alabama? Alabama may
not even have as much money as we think they do.
I've said for a while that it's It's It's Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Florida,
(08:02):
Tennessee are the five schools with the most money. Alabama's got.
It's gonna have a lot of boosters that get that
share their money with with Auburn, so that money that
State's gonna get fractioned a little bit. Alabama is still
the school of record, if you will. I mean, there's
big brother little brother there, and Alabama's definitely big brother.
But I I don't know that Alabama can compete with
(08:24):
Texas financially. They may, they may be able to, but
they certainly aren't as big at state and I don't
think they have as as deep a pockets.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't think anybody in that state does other than
in that league that does other than Georgia.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, trying to find it, but I just I mean,
Nick Saban is in his seventies. Like you mentioned, he
at some point wants to call it quits because he's
going to be working.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's not how it is for him right now.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
He gets to work four months out of the year,
occasionally do a couple of hits every now and then
throughout throughout the dead season, but he doesn't have to
be three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
It is a grueling job at.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Twenty hours a day.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
At his age, It's like, I think you're going to
see to stop. I think you're going to see more
and more coaches get out of the game early because
of all of this, and it is a young man's game.
I think Lincoln Riley is I'll be surprised if he
quits at fifty, but I will be surprised if he
quits at fifty five to sixty. I look at what's
(09:34):
happening with at UTSA, and I think the one thing
that is giving Coach Trailer the salvation is that he
has built a culture where everybody wants to stay, even
if they can make money someplace else. And I don't
know that that's sustainable. I mean, i'd like for it.
I'd like to think that it is. I'd like to
think that that will last forever. But there's a really
(09:56):
good possibility that someday ten or twelve guys won't take
culture route and we'll take the money. And I and
even even he has said, I don't blame anybody for
leaving when they're getting that kind of cash. If he
and a lot of other coaches have said, if I
was twenty two, twenty three years old and somebody offered
me a half a million dollars to switch schools and
(10:18):
the other school couldn't match, I'd leave. And to me,
it comes down when what coaches want is a fair
chance to compete, and when they feel like the fair
chance to compete is gone, that's when they want to
go someplace else or they want to move up. If
you're a if you're a school a coach at an
FCS school and you want to in your in your
(10:38):
goal in life is to win an NCAA championship. Well,
as soon as you get the opportunity to move up
to the next level, you're going to go. And as
soon as you get the opportunity to do whatever it
is at the level after that, you're going to go.
But I think that there's a lot of coaches out
there that are going to be content staying at a
lower level because there's going to be less up They're
not going to have the budgets to get.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
All the players.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So if they can win an FCS championship, maybe that's
just as good as winning an FBS championship.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Because coaching is coaching.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I get to be around a team, whereas if I
if I ascend to being the coach of Alabama or Georgia,
I got boosters, I got players, I got the best
players in the in the and I got a payroll.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
That's bigger than my staff. Now, so this is from
the Wall Street Journal earlier this year, and this is
just talking about SC teams and how much they would
be worth in general, not necessarily you know the revenue,
but I don't know who. Number one is probably either
Ohio State and Michigan. But number two, and this is
just what the Wall Street Journal has them classified as,
(11:40):
is how much they would be worth. Texas at number
two is at one point eight nine seven billion dollars.
Alabama is at eleven at only eight hundred and forty
six million, So that is too who was after Texas
And this is just SEC teams. The next SEC team
would be Georgia at four at one point three.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, Ohio State and Michigan are going to be one
and two then or or.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Maybe perhaps yeah yeah, but this is just what the
SEC teams are are worth. You know, you have Texas
at two, Georgia at four, l s U at six.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
See I would I would put l s U down further.
The state of Louisiana is not a rich state. There
are pockets of people who are rich, but it doesn't
have and maybe ls u's community does, but I know
that there's a there's a pocket of boosters like in
Ruston and Louisiana Tech that keep that school going, but
they don't get a lot of state funding. And the
(12:38):
same thing with Lafayette with the Louisiana and the same
thing in Baton Rouge with l s U. But it's
there's what what what? What would l s u's net
worth be?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
L s U's is one point zero six zero billion,
and Ohio state is number one according to to Wall
Street Journal at one point nine and some change.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So anyway, it is now an arms race until the
NCAA figures out a way to get an I trust
exemption and we make it a fair fight for everyone.
But I can't imagine Nick Saban going back to coaching
at seventy Well, it'll be seventy four next year and
not the seventy four.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
If you're in shape, you're in shape, and if you
think you can do it, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm not age discriminating here, but I just don't think
he wants to get back in the grind. The NFL
is a grind, just like college is.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You just don't have.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
You know how to have to do it in the
summertime as much as you do you have to do
some in the summer because you're always figuring out what
the playbook's going to be and your plan is going
to be. You have to baby sit one hundred athletes
at twenty four to seven, three sixty five when you're
in college. All right, Memphis basketball did something really stupid
and it also affected their volleyball program.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
We'll share that with you. Next, it's the Andy Everette Show.
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