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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Right back home, back in the big chair.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I am your host for today, little guest hosting here
for Andy. I am the biggest Puma, Sam Freeze. Happy
to be back in here with all you boys and
uh some of you gals as well as I see, uh.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Some of y'all that have reached out to me. It
feels good to.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Be back in the room where I can't believe we're
already an hour down and we haven't even talked any cowboys,
believe it or not.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, we talked golf. Of course, had to have to
talk golf.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Had to honor Uncle Andy with a little golf talk.
That voice you hear, of course, is Michael Bartlett, along
with our soundscape stylist Shane Carter in the other room.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I love that title so much.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm telling you latch onto it, Duel. The first time
I heard Duel.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Said it, it was instantly like, oh yeah, no, no, no,
that's I am no longer a board hop management.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I am the soundscape stylist. I need the little business
cars that say that now too.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You need to get Patrick Bateman American Psycho style.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Just very block number.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, yeah, that soundscape stolid Hey, look, you'd be surprised
the amount of places you can get into in this
town by just acting important exactly a good business card
like that.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I forget, I forget what I pay for itself.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, I forget what Andy actually references references sane to
be and what was it sheane?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's audio audio.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
That's a good one too.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That sounds very professional.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I was about to say that sounds more like you're
like you're waiting in a doctor's office.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's a little more sterile.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I like it. But also, if you know Andy and Duel,
Chris Duels a little bit, a little bit different life,
a little bit different pace of life. It's duel than Andy. No,
I appreciate Uncle Andy reaching out and getting me back
in the room. It feels like it feels like I've
had the longest bullpen warm up session in the history
(01:53):
of baseball. My arm's about to fall off. Been out
there for the last eight nine months. It's really really
nice to it back. But I gotta talk cowboys, of course,
we gotta talk cowboys. We went a whole hour without it,
and we're gonna do a lot of cowboys audio throughout
the hour.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We're gonna do a.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Full five o'clock Cowboy Cowboys Power Hour here as I
almost die. We'll keep the audio for the later part
of the hour because there's just it's training camp. They've
reported to Oxnard, as Jerry calls it, they had the
state of the Team address where everyone loses their collective
mind about something Jerry.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Says or does.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's an annual tradition like no other, as they host
the press conference from the tennis courts out there in Oxnard.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But we'll get to the audio.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We'll get to the Micah versus Jerry, We'll get to
the national media's take on the whole situation with our
Dallas Cowboys. I just want to start with Vegas has
the Cowboys over underline at seven and a half wins,
and you said to me in the break, Bartlet, that
is shocking to me, I say, it's shocking, and then
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you immediately follow it. They won seven games last year
with a Cooper rush and a banged up unit on
both sides of the ball, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, you your your main target was CD Lamb And yes,
I think we would all collectively say we like Cavante
Turpin a weapon pro bowler, but not as my legit
number two.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And and I like Brandon Cooks except when he gets
a bad shot and missus eight weeks.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
He was he was injured. So yeah, you had Cooper
rush with a patchwork offensive line, a kind of a
deer in the headlights. Look with uh, the ou tackle
that they took last.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Year, Tyler.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They expected him to be a Day one start, and
that was a struggle playing left tackle for the first time.
I mean, he was a tight end coming out of
high school at TCU.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And he's also replacing future Hall of Famer with Tyrone Smith.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It doesn't help to fill literally and figurative.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, so you're you're working with that.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
And then as Andy disrespects him, disrespected.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Him all year. Something that was called Rico Daddle.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You know, Rico got like six million from the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
What was funny is is as much as Andy clowned
on Rico Daddle and wanted Tony Pollard back, they legit
had almost number for number.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The exact same stats. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It looked different, but it almost ended up wash.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, so you had you had with whatever you wanted
to call that. Then you had a defense that was
just as beat up as the offense was. You know,
you lose uh, Trayvon Diggs, you lost Michael Parsons, you
lost de Marvion Overshown. Yeah, so it was it was
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a patchwork team that they had. And yeah, you can say,
well but look at the Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions
were like on they're forty fifth guys.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, but they got my man, Dan Campbell Rose his own.
They could bring it. They could bring in me off
the street and Dan would mold me into of.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Course he would.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Of course he would, and Dan we trust around these parts.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Of course they would.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But they, you know, they addressed a lot of the
needs that I think were the biggest holes to fill
the obvious one. Yeah, you know, with with Diggs still
being uncertain that if he's even going to be a
go again this year, they somehow were available to get
remind me again, Shane is first.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, who's also entering camp on the pub but expected
to be ready at some point before the season. And
Total Steel out of East Carolina.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, before he got hurt, you know, mel Kiper's first
round talent.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, you know, so they of course, though we've.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Seen that with the Cowboys where that well, hey, he
got injured and fell to us, so he's a first
round talent. Jaylen Smith Smith of course, But again, I
hate to be the guy that immediately says It's like
Jerry with Randy Moss. When Jerry said, we're not taking
the troubled wide receiver, We're gonna take Greg Ellis instead.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
What did Jerry immediately do.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He learned his lesson and swung back the other way
and said, oh wait a troubled receiver. Does Bryant come
come home? Be a cowboy. I've learned my lesson. I'm
not passing on Randy Moss again. So at least Jerry does.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
He won't.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
He'll try again. He'll risk it, of course, of course.
But I just I think a lot of it is
clearly the Dak. The Dak Prescott hate is with Dak
getting paid what he got paid and then of course
getting injured what week five something like that, Yeah, and
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then it's all, well, this is what happens when you
pay your B plus quarterback or C plus quarterback all
this money and.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
You're just gonna You're just gonna suck.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And it's like I always bring up, let's not forget
that Dak Prescott two years ago was second behind Lebron
Jackson an MVP. So Dak Prescott, for as much as
people want to clown on him and thinks that he's
a terrible quarterback, has only lost one more game in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Then, said Lamar Jackson, two time MVP.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I'm just saying that's such a that's such a surprising
number on the surface, because when you watch Lamar play
and you watch Dak play, it's pretty clear one of
those guys is a little further along in talent and
ability than the others.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, I mean, let's not. Let's not.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, Lamar Jackson is a freak when it comes to
the athletic nature. You know, Dak is not some guy
who's gonna run away from somebody, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
After the remo, you gotta hope it's a cramp moment exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
But I just think this obviously, being the quarterback and
then wearing the star, you're always going to be held
to a higher standard.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Especially when you sign the biggest quarterback deal in history, exactly.
And that shades the conversation the the interesting You know,
Vegas has the line at seven and a half. Last
year they were seven and ten. You mentioned all of
the reasons. That's surprising. Uh, let me ask you if
this potentially is a red flag?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Okay, new head coach?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Are we buying into shoddy putting the ping pong table
in the locker room, taking all the players out to
dinner and telling them, Oh, I'm paying for it, y'all,
don't worry, keep your cards in your pocket.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Hey, I'm I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
The differencing is Dad every press conference.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I mean, that would be nothing different than like what
Harball does with how Crazy and Shenanigan.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know, Jim Harball's got skins on the walls.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Jim Harball, not John. John is more, you know, down
to earth. Jim is more a little out there at times.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Can you can which one of y'all can name the
offensive coordinator right now?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Go for it for the Cowboys first one, Clayton Adams.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Clayton Adams, good job.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
What percent of Cowboys fans know the offensive coordinator?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Less than ten percent? Yeah? Maybe like five percent?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Honestly I did, I didn't know because the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
This one's easier the head coach last year with the Bears.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
The Clayton Adams one is the one that people don't
know Okay, okay, Shane, it seemed to be seemed to
know all.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
These seem to know where I'm going.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I'm not gonna know it all.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But a lot of times Mike and Andy asked me
questions that I just happen to know most.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
He's like my rain man, give me the Cowboys special
teams coach.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's not John Fossil.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
That's not John Fossils.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I'm gonna miss Bones. I forgot.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It's not Junior Adams's the receivers coach. I'm trying to
run down the list in my head.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
If you pull it out of your head right now,
I will be amazed it is.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I don't think I know it. Nick Sorenson, Okay, does
that name sound familiar.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
He's been around.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
He was, uh you was with the Jaguars for multiple years.
It's a name that has been, you know, floated across
the league for multiple years now. But again, it's not
a name, which, granted, maybe it's not a bad thing.
Bones Fossil moved on. He was getting a little wild
ass with the the fake punts and mccarthney giving him
a little too much control potentially last year.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But let's don't talk about that Bengals.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That Bengals get a fake punt at the thirty five
yard line in the first half when they're only down three?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Is that bad? Is that bad?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Smart?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
There were so many moments like that last year. So
all of that to say, you know, when the Eagles
had both of their coordinators plug the year after they
won the Super Bowl, they missed the playoffs. The next
year they still had Siriani lost both their offensive defensive coordinators,
something the Lions are handling this year now, losing Ben
Johnson and Aaron Glenn to.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The Bears and Jets, respectively.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I think sometimes we don't appreciate how much value there
is in continuity among coaching staffs, especially in the NFL,
where the margins of separation between these teams, the separation
between the Browns and the Cowboys right now, it sounds
like it's a lot, but I think the actual talent
on those rosters. Sure, the Cowboys might have more talent,
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but it's not as far of a gap as you
your mind might think it. Sometimes, having the continuity and
the consistency among the coaches and everyone being on the
same page, which is something I do like that shot.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
He's doing.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Sometimes there's more value in that than just having the
best players. I think the NFL is a league where
usually that plays itself out more so than any other league.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah yeah, I would definitely get on board with that.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You know, when he was a first officially announced as
head coach, you know, there were some out there that
I thought that I think the Cowboys could have looked
at obviously before he signed with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh you mean Guys that would have cost Jerry more money,
Guys that wouldn't have been a puppet, Guys that he
couldn't have that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
He didn't have an emotional connection to his daddy.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Like you know, Pete Carroll, before he signed with the Raiders,
I thought that one, if nothing else, it would have
been a good stop gap to potentially groom a the
offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And also someone who has the previous history was Shody,
I mean a guy. A lot of what Schottenheimer is
doing with the Cowboys is what Pete Carroll did in Seattle.
It's a lot of the team building, the bonding, the
off the field stuff. That's what Pete Carroll was great
at that and being a defensive wizard. Shody has learned
a lot of that under the tree of Pete Carroll,
(12:23):
but I would still rather have Pete.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Carroll doing that at eighty seventy six.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
However old he is right now, then first year coach shottennheis.
So not only are the Cowboys replacing both coordinators, first year,
first time head coach, Let's not forget he's replacing a
guy who won a Super Bowl, a guy who has
the same identical coaching record as Sean Payton, who everyone
still loves and is doing in Detroit or in Denver,
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building something in Denver. I think the hatred for McCarthy
got a little too hot, and the optimism of Shody
is now getting a little too rich for my blood.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, everybody just forgets that Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys
had three straight years of twelve and five.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, because when you don't do anything in the playoffs,
it's easy to forget that only one team won more
regular season games than you over that three year stretch,
and that's the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Oh, you mean the Taylor Swiss. Well, the fighting, the
fighting swifts.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Eric Conba fronting Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, fighting, Patty Mahomes and Andy Reid the seven and
a half number, It just feels like a given they
win more games than they did last year.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And here's at least some.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Statistical evidence that might support that. So the Cowboys opponents
last year had to combined one hundred the opponents they're
playing this year, how to combined one hundred and sixty
one wins last year. The projected win totals of the
teams those teams is only one hundred and forty seven
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point five this year. So that difference between what they
did last year and what they're projected to do this year.
That delta, that is the second highest delta of any
NFL team amongst their schedules. So the Cowboys, on paper,
these teams were good last year, but now Vegas is
saying we don't think they're going to be near as
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good this year as they were last year. And that
delta is, like I said, it's the second highest in
the entire league.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
That could be some signs of hope at least.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Well, and you know, we briefly talked about it yesterday,
but Shane brought it up. Is like even not having
the schedule in front of me, but you would probably say,
for the most part, they should beat the Giants twice
and probably you would hope, you would hope, and more
than likely they will split with the Commanders and then
the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh man, you are higher well cause I mean you're
not high, you're higher on that idea.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You're on board with me on this one. I know
you are because Shane is as well. You know and
believe that the Madden curse is real.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I mean, I'm not a superstitious guy, but it's hard
to argue when it's yeah, put in.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Front of me.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Saquon Barkley had an incredible year last year, injury free.
But the one thing that unfortunately follows Saquon Barkley is
he gets injured. They rely a lot on him. They
don't rely a lot on Jalen Hurts. They also lost
a lot of pieces, So there is the Super Bowl
hangol with.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I think Washington might be the best team in the East. Oh,
I mean, it's the East is going to be really interesting.
The I It's really hard for me to say they're
going to split with both of those. I think if
you get a split with either Philly or Washington, you're
pretty happy. And to further your point. The Cowboys ten
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hardest games according to Vegas the teams are going up
against six of those are at home.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
So not that the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Have nothing as much of an advantage, but at least
they get to stay at the Gaylord Hotel and don't
have to leave their homes first.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Don't wear the blue jerseys, as Chrystul would say.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Well, yeah, Duel does.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Speaking of superstitious, Uh, let's talk some Micah versus Jerry,
because some of this audio has gotten some real traction,
and I think some of it is being overblown, but
I think some of it Micah is playing perfectly well.
Let's get into that next here on The Andy Evertt
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