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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, it's Andy Everett. Thank you so much for
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(00:44):
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the road. Winners get set for a trip to Philadelphia
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(01:05):
Eagles Broncos on Sunday afternoon and two baseball games on
the weekend as well, and we'll be in the midst
of all of that when we're on the Year at
ten o'clock San Antonio time on Saturday. I'm Adi Everett
and the audio disseminators of this program or Shane Carter,
and of course the producer of this show is Michael Bartlett.
And I think Michael knows where I'm going to start
this show today, and it's something called analytics. And the
(01:29):
poison and the whatever whatever is in the drink of
analytics that people love to go with is driving me,
as a sports fan of fifty five years or thereabouts,
absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Have a rule when it comes to play calling manager's decisions,
coaches decisions, and I really try hard to live by
it because I've never met a coach or an administrator
or a general manager of a team that knew how
to broadcast. So my rule is, don't tell me how
to broadcast. I won't tell you how to coach. And
(02:07):
I lived by that ninety nine point nine percent of
the time, and so I and I wouldn't. I don't
care if you pinch hit for somebody. I don't care
if you pinch run for somebody. I don't care what
play you called. You didn't call the play thinking that
you were going to lose the game. But I would
really like for baseball managers to go with a hunch
(02:29):
just occasionally. And yesterday when we ended the show, there
was about thirty forty seconds left in the show, and
Max Fried got one out in the sixth and here
it comes Arrein Boone to go to the bullpen. The
Yankees were ahead, won to nothing, and they the uh,
there was nobody on base. I think, who know its Yeah,
it was one. It was one to one. There was
(02:50):
nobody on base. He had pitched great for six innings.
Maybe it was one or nothing. I'd have to go
back and look, but anyway, he had not had a
lot of base runner for a couple of innings. He
had gotten a little bit of work in and he
was laboring a bit. And Aaron Boone would say later,
I took him out because I thought he was starting
to have too much stress pitching.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
He was in a groove.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
There was nobody on base, he had not given up
any big hits. Nobody had really touched him, very much
like Garrett Crochet pitch for Boston. And if I could
believe in my heart of hearts that that was an
Aaron Boone or a managerial decision to take Max Street
out of the game, I'd have no issue with it whatsoever.
Go out to the mound, ask your pitcher how he's doing.
(03:33):
Is he feeling okay? All right, go get him. Let's
go get another batter or two. If you get somebody
on base, I'm coming to get you. But to me,
that decision was made by an AI computer that is
run by somebody from Yale who has never played a
baseball game, never managed a baseball game, never coached a
baseball team, and it was nothing about the game other
than whatever the analytics tell him. And that is the
(03:56):
way that so and so for the last I guess
eighteen nineteen twenty hours, I've heard from Steven A. Smith,
and I've heard from all kinds of different New York
media on Facebook, in national media elsewhere, and Colin Cowherd
and Dan Patrick questioning the decision to pull Max Freed
yesterday in the sixth inning with one out and nobody
(04:18):
on Bates. And again, if I thought that this was
twenty years ago where we didn't have that much analytics,
and that was a hunch that the manager played.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Hey, you make a decision, you go for it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But this was absolutely not a manager decision. And for
everybody that wants to fire the manager and wants to
fire the coach, remember it's not him always making the decision.
And I saw an excerpt from the Michael Kay Show,
and Michael does the TV broadcast for the Yankees during
the regular season, and he said, understand, folks, if you
(04:52):
fire Aaron Boone, you have to fire Brian Cashman and
everybody in the office between the two of them, because
they are not making the decision. The computers and the
guy from Yale is making the decision. And that's the
frustrating part about it. We are getting too uh, we're
dehumanizing the game to a certain extent. I don't care
(05:13):
if the guy gives if you put it, if you
leave him in, he gives up a home run.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And that was your hunch. Okay, you can deal with it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But the Red Sox were begging for somebody else to
throw them at baseball because they could not hit him
very much like the Yankees were hoping that Garrett Crochet
would come out of the lineup well before Chapman came
in the game, because once all the Chapman came in,
the game was over with. Even though they got three on,
I was skeptical as to whether they could tire win
the game. That's another story that they got three on
and nobody out and didn't score because again, they weren't
(05:42):
trying to advance runners. They were trying to get home runs.
Because that's what an analytic says. That's the biggest problem
I have with baseball. It's not robot umpires, even though
I'm not a big fan of that. We're taking the
human element out of it by telling managers you can
manage however you want. But if the computer tells you
to do it one way and you do it another
way and you lose, I'm firing you. If you go
(06:03):
with the computer and at backfires, I don't care. You
get a contract extension. And that's how managers are managing.
And Aaron Boone was a player, not a Hall of
Fame player, but he was a good player for a
number of years, and he has one of the most
dramatic and successful home runs and exciting moments in Yankee's history.
He would not have managed that way twenty three years
ago when he hit that home run in two thousand
(06:24):
and two, two thousand and one. I believe this is
what's wrong with baseball. It's not it's not the games
too long or too short.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's that we are dehumanizing the sport. And you saw
it again yesterday because Boston's eyes got bigger than Dallas
as soon as they switched pitchers, because they now had
the confidence that they could come back and win that game.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, first off, Hi, Andy, Hi.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That's my five minutes of my anti analytical rant.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, what's funny, people, is we got out into
the parking lot, Andy flips on the you know, because
we saw that Max Free got pulled. And as we're
walking out of the parking lot and Andy flips on
the head.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
By the time we got to the parking lot, yeah,
and I think it was one to nothing, and we
got to the parking lot was two to one.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And you were like, well, I told you, I told you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And then of course the ninth in he you know,
bottom of the ninth bases loaded.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Bases loaded on three dank hits and then strike out,
pop up st a strikeout, ball game over. I mean,
can you just put the ball in play somewhere, just
hit it someplace, just get it out of the infield,
and you tie the game on a sacrifice fly. I
don't even care if you don't score two runs. You
should have scored two runs and won the game. But
(07:37):
analytics says, oh, well, Trent Grisham, you've hit thirty six
home runs this year. Swing hard, Okay, I'll pop it up.
John Carlos standing, I don't expect much out of him.
I want him to hit it hard. If he hits
it hard, it's going to go someplace. Well, but you
he swung it up. He got behind in the count
because he swung it a ball. And remember the pitcher
doesn't have to throw a strike, he just has to
(07:59):
make it look like a strike. But we and it
was kind of funny when yes when we were doing
the interview yesterday with Jeff Trailer and today I practice
I would Jeff asked me, we talked about it a
little bit more, and I said, according to the analytics
and the Ryder Cup, the absolute worst worst Forsome's team
that Keigan Bradley could put on the on the on
(08:20):
the draw was Harris the English and Colin Markawa, and
so we put them out there when they were one
thirty second out of one thirty second as the best
Forsom's pairing. Now, I understand that you got to look
at analytics a little bit. And if somebody tells me
this is the absolute worst decision you can ever make
based on analytics, then okay, I probably am not going
to make that decision. I'm not going to go with
(08:40):
a hunch when the computer says this absolutely will not work.
But I've been watching baseball for a long time and
I've seen a lot of pitchers that are in a
groove that can work a little bit stressed and still
get people out deep into the game even though they
don't go that far in the game. And as soon
as you take that picture out and you put somebody
new in, it gives life to the other team that
(09:03):
they can that they can do, that they can come
back and in the in the Ryder Cup, not only
did they put Marico in English shot there once and
after they got boat raced on on Friday, they put
them back out there to get boat raced again on Saturday.
So that I'm okay with using analytics to kind of
give you a guide. But if I ever have billions
of dollars to own a baseball team, I'm going to
(09:23):
hire a manager that goes by baseball gut instinct, because
I think it's right way more than it's wrong. The
NBA is basically a three point contest and a path
to the an uncontested path of the basket for a dunk,
and three pointers are exciting and the crowd goes wild,
and the regular season scores are one hundred and fifty
seven to one hundred and forty eight, and it's like,
can anybody stop anybody?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Or do we even care?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Because analytics says, don't shoot mid range shots until you
get to the playoffs, and then the teams that can
shoot mid range shots in the playoffs win because we
actually care and play defense in otherwise, we're just basically
having a mixtape for the for the first eighty two
games of the year, analytics is root winning.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It kn'ts I don't. I don't even know what else
to say about my cat.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And again I heard Stephen A. Smith to day chastising
Aaron Boone. Aaron Boone is under direct orders from hal Steinbrenner.
If analytics says do it, you don't have to. But
if you're wrong an analytics says you should have done
it somewhere else, that's a demerit against you. As to
whether I'm gonna keep you around as manager. Yeah, if
you're right with your hunch, okay, great. But if you're
(10:26):
wrong with your hunch, I'm not firing you. If you
do exactly what the computer tells you to do, and
the guy from Yale tells you what to do, but
I am gonna get you are gonna be in hot
water if you if you go against that.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I heard a quick little excerpt from Dan Patrick this morning,
and I didn't really like the way unless I misunderstood it,
but the way he was saying, it's obviously in the
analytics world now it's Hey, instead of taking responsibility and
going with your gut and you're gonna be the one
who gets blamed, you just blame it on the computer.
(11:00):
Oh well, the computer told me to do it, so
it's not my fault. I'm like, really, is that where
we're at these days? To where managers that are getting
paid millions of dollars are going by what a computer says.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, So why do why do I need to pay?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Then?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Why do I need to pay Aaron Boone five million
dollars a year for seven years when I can just
get put the guy in there from Harvard spent out
a few numbers in the computer, and I'll pay him,
you know, eighty thousand a year and call it today,
because that's probably what you're paying your analytics guy anyway,
maybe a little bit more. I don't know what the
what they're getting paid, But why do you know?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Obviously a manager is gonna coddle players or get chastise
players when or teach them things or to teach them technique.
But managers have to manage the game. Coaches have to
manage the game and call plays. And I've never called plays.
I've never managed a baseball game, but I liked when
I'm watching one, I'm kind of managing in my head,
and I look at like and I still don't understand
(11:56):
why Paul Goldschmidt is leading off one game, not playing
the second game, and batting seventh the next game. Because
the guy from Yale says this is the matchup that's
gonna work best. And I think if you're a hitter
and you go back and look at the history of baseball,
and you look at whether it was the Reds and
the seventies that were the best team, the Cardinals and
the Royals in the eighties were among the best teams,
(12:19):
the Atlanta Braves in the nineties and in Minnesota and
those teams in the nineties that were good.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Guess what they always batted at the same spot.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You knew Vince Coleman was gonna lead off, Ozzie Smith
was gonna advance him to he was gonna steal second,
Ausie Smith was gonna push him to third, and Jack
Clark and the other guys were gonna drive him in.
That was That was white Herzog baseball, whitey ball from
the get go.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
By the way, Andy, you want to know why the
uh they don't just have the MLB analytics guys as
the excuse me as the actual guys, because it will
look embarrassing for professional Baseball league teams that are worth
hundreds of millions and billions of dollars. UH. The average
(12:59):
salary and for an MLB data analyst is around eighty
two thousand dollars anywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But tick and Aaron Boone is taking advice from somebody
that's making eighty grand and he's making five million.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Anywhere anywhere between sixty two thousand to ninety seven thousand.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, that's why they are not in charge. First of all,
would look like a joke. Well it is a joke
because the players. The players know this.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So so you get Goldschmid gets on base, Judge gets
on base, Bellinger gets on base. Now I know what
John Carlo Stan's gonna do. He's been doing it since
he's gotten in the bigs. He's gonna swing as hard
as he can and hope it goes someplace. And if
he misses, he's gonna strike out. So I'll give you
that one. But then they had a Madrasario playing second bay. No,
(13:47):
it's Chisholm because he came in for defense. So Chisholm
comes in. He's a slap hitter, he's got a little
bit of power, but he's up there swinging as if
he's Babe Ruth and trying to hit it into the
right field seats just get in play. And then Tran Grisham,
who has power and has hit home runs this year,
is still a singles doubles hitter more than he is
a home run hitter. But then again, and it's trickling
(14:09):
down to all the sports, and I still can't figure out.
I mean, if Keegan Bradley hired an analytics team and
then went with went completely opposite, you know that that's
a problem too. I think analytics can help you. I
think analytics is a good thing if you use it
as a guide, But when it becomes your bible, it
ruins the game and it makes her terrible decisions.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And again, Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Smith and Colin and Dan and all the people that
have come on before me. Today, Aaron Boone made a
dumb decision yesterday getting freed out of the game.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I don't think it was his decision.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He'll say it was his decision because that's what he's
been instructed to say, and that's how he gets to
make another five million dollars. But it's not here, and
I can't imagine. I mean, he's played this game for
twenty years before he managed it. You don't take guys
out of the lineup when they go they're pitching a
shutout and they're not allowing base runners and there's one
(15:01):
out in the six with nobody on base. Now, if
the next guy gets up and linds a double off
the wall, boom the hook comes.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, he's fatigued.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You go out there and you talk to him, and
you make sure that and the players know in playoff games,
you know they they'll always say yes, I'm good, but
you can tell by their body language what they really mean,
and you can if you sense it. They're really fatigued
and tired, and they can't throw. The ninety eight mile
an hour fastball is now ninety two and there's no
movement to it. Okay, you can take them out, but
(15:31):
you can see immediately as soon as Boston saw that
he was coming out of the game and they were
going to what has been a weak mental relief bullpen.
Bednar's been okay and down the stretch closing, but everybody
else been and Tim Hill's been kind of okay, but
everybody else between the starting pitching and those two have
sucked for most of the last two months. And now
you're gonna throw them out there in a It's not
(15:53):
a must win game because you get another chance today
with Rodan, but and I don't care whether it's the
Yankees or the Dodgers or who have We're seeing way
way too much reliance on on on the analytics, and
I think analytics can help. AI is a good thing
if it's if you don't, let you know, Skynette take
over the world. But they're going over. But Skynett was
(16:14):
managing that game yesterday, not Aaron Boone. All right, we
got to get to Dot Garrett. We'll do that next.
It's the Indie Everage Show.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
On the ticket
Hello everyone, it's Andy Everett. Thank you so much for
listening to Tickets seven sixty and to my radio show
from four pm to seven pm every day on Sports
Radio AM seven sixty to the Ticket Now, stay tuned
for the podcast it's coming up next. Don't forget to
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the indie every show. Well, it is a Wednesday, and
that means that usually on Wednesdays during the football season,
and this one being a usual Wednesday, we are at
Rocca and Martillo. It is the home of the Spurs
practice facility. My guest training camp's going on underway over
(00:44):
there for them right now. But in three hours, this
restaurant out here at Roca and Martillo will be the
home of the Jeff Trailer Radio Show, and we invite
you to come out here and here from Jeff is
the road. Winners get set for a trip to Philadelphia
on Friday, and then it's off to Temple to play
the on Saturday afternoon. There's going to be a lot
of things going on in Philadelphia this weekend, including the
(01:05):
Eagles Broncos on Sunday afternoon and two baseball games on
the weekend as well, and we'll be in the midst
of all of that when we're on the Year at
ten o'clock San Antonio time on Saturday. I'm Adi Everett
and the audio disseminators of this program or Shane Carter,
and of course the producer of this show is Michael Bartlett.
And I think Michael knows where I'm going to start
this show today, and it's something called analytics. And the
(01:29):
poison and the whatever whatever is in the drink of
analytics that people love to go with is driving me,
as a sports fan of fifty five years or thereabouts,
absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Have a rule when it comes to play calling manager's decisions,
coaches decisions, and I really try hard to live by
it because I've never met a coach or an administrator
or a general manager of a team that knew how
to broadcast. So my rule is, don't tell me how
to broadcast. I won't tell you how to coach. And
(02:07):
I lived by that ninety nine point nine percent of
the time, and so I and I wouldn't. I don't
care if you pinch hit for somebody. I don't care
if you pinch run for somebody. I don't care what
play you called. You didn't call the play thinking that
you were going to lose the game. But I would
really like for baseball managers to go with a hunch
(02:29):
just occasionally. And yesterday when we ended the show, there
was about thirty forty seconds left in the show, and
Max Fried got one out in the sixth and here
it comes Arrein Boone to go to the bullpen. The
Yankees were ahead, won to nothing, and they the uh,
there was nobody on base. I think, who know its Yeah,
it was one. It was one to one. There was
(02:50):
nobody on base. He had pitched great for six innings.
Maybe it was one or nothing. I'd have to go
back and look, but anyway, he had not had a
lot of base runner for a couple of innings. He
had gotten a little bit of work in and he
was laboring a bit. And Aaron Boone would say later,
I took him out because I thought he was starting
to have too much stress pitching.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
He was in a groove.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
There was nobody on base, he had not given up
any big hits. Nobody had really touched him, very much
like Garrett Crochet pitch for Boston. And if I could
believe in my heart of hearts that that was an
Aaron Boone or a managerial decision to take Max Street
out of the game, I'd have no issue with it whatsoever.
Go out to the mound, ask your pitcher how he's doing.
(03:33):
Is he feeling okay? All right, go get him. Let's
go get another batter or two. If you get somebody
on base, I'm coming to get you. But to me,
that decision was made by an AI computer that is
run by somebody from Yale who has never played a
baseball game, never managed a baseball game, never coached a
baseball team, and it was nothing about the game other
than whatever the analytics tell him. And that is the
(03:56):
way that so and so for the last I guess
eighteen nineteen twenty hours, I've heard from Steven A. Smith,
and I've heard from all kinds of different New York
media on Facebook, in national media elsewhere, and Colin Cowherd
and Dan Patrick questioning the decision to pull Max Freed
yesterday in the sixth inning with one out and nobody
(04:18):
on Bates. And again, if I thought that this was
twenty years ago where we didn't have that much analytics,
and that was a hunch that the manager played.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Hey, you make a decision, you go for it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But this was absolutely not a manager decision. And for
everybody that wants to fire the manager and wants to
fire the coach, remember it's not him always making the decision.
And I saw an excerpt from the Michael Kay Show,
and Michael does the TV broadcast for the Yankees during
the regular season, and he said, understand, folks, if you
(04:52):
fire Aaron Boone, you have to fire Brian Cashman and
everybody in the office between the two of them, because
they are not making the decision. The computers and the
guy from Yale is making the decision. And that's the
frustrating part about it. We are getting too uh, we're
dehumanizing the game to a certain extent. I don't care
(05:13):
if the guy gives if you put it, if you
leave him in, he gives up a home run.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And that was your hunch. Okay, you can deal with it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But the Red Sox were begging for somebody else to
throw them at baseball because they could not hit him
very much like the Yankees were hoping that Garrett Crochet
would come out of the lineup well before Chapman came
in the game, because once all the Chapman came in,
the game was over with. Even though they got three on,
I was skeptical as to whether they could tire win
the game. That's another story that they got three on
and nobody out and didn't score because again, they weren't
(05:42):
trying to advance runners. They were trying to get home runs.
Because that's what an analytic says. That's the biggest problem
I have with baseball. It's not robot umpires, even though
I'm not a big fan of that. We're taking the
human element out of it by telling managers you can
manage however you want. But if the computer tells you
to do it one way and you do it another
way and you lose, I'm firing you. If you go
(06:03):
with the computer and at backfires, I don't care. You
get a contract extension. And that's how managers are managing.
And Aaron Boone was a player, not a Hall of
Fame player, but he was a good player for a
number of years, and he has one of the most
dramatic and successful home runs and exciting moments in Yankee's history.
He would not have managed that way twenty three years
ago when he hit that home run in two thousand
(06:24):
and two, two thousand and one. I believe this is
what's wrong with baseball. It's not it's not the games
too long or too short.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's that we are dehumanizing the sport. And you saw
it again yesterday because Boston's eyes got bigger than Dallas
as soon as they switched pitchers, because they now had
the confidence that they could come back and win that game.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, first off, Hi, Andy, Hi.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That's my five minutes of my anti analytical rant.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, what's funny, people, is we got out into
the parking lot, Andy flips on the you know, because
we saw that Max Free got pulled. And as we're
walking out of the parking lot and Andy flips on
the head.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
By the time we got to the parking lot, yeah,
and I think it was one to nothing, and we
got to the parking lot was two to one.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And you were like, well, I told you, I told you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And then of course the ninth in he you know,
bottom of the ninth bases loaded.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Bases loaded on three dank hits and then strike out,
pop up st a strikeout, ball game over. I mean,
can you just put the ball in play somewhere, just
hit it someplace, just get it out of the infield,
and you tie the game on a sacrifice fly. I
don't even care if you don't score two runs. You
should have scored two runs and won the game. But
(07:37):
analytics says, oh, well, Trent Grisham, you've hit thirty six
home runs this year. Swing hard, Okay, I'll pop it up.
John Carlos standing, I don't expect much out of him.
I want him to hit it hard. If he hits
it hard, it's going to go someplace. Well, but you
he swung it up. He got behind in the count
because he swung it a ball. And remember the pitcher
doesn't have to throw a strike, he just has to
(07:59):
make it look like a strike. But we and it
was kind of funny when yes when we were doing
the interview yesterday with Jeff Trailer and today I practice
I would Jeff asked me, we talked about it a
little bit more, and I said, according to the analytics
and the Ryder Cup, the absolute worst worst Forsome's team
that Keigan Bradley could put on the on the on
(08:20):
the draw was Harris the English and Colin Markawa, and
so we put them out there when they were one
thirty second out of one thirty second as the best
Forsom's pairing. Now, I understand that you got to look
at analytics a little bit. And if somebody tells me
this is the absolute worst decision you can ever make
based on analytics, then okay, I probably am not going
to make that decision. I'm not going to go with
(08:40):
a hunch when the computer says this absolutely will not work.
But I've been watching baseball for a long time and
I've seen a lot of pitchers that are in a
groove that can work a little bit stressed and still
get people out deep into the game even though they
don't go that far in the game. And as soon
as you take that picture out and you put somebody
new in, it gives life to the other team that
(09:03):
they can that they can do, that they can come
back and in the in the Ryder Cup, not only
did they put Marico in English shot there once and
after they got boat raced on on Friday, they put
them back out there to get boat raced again on Saturday.
So that I'm okay with using analytics to kind of
give you a guide. But if I ever have billions
of dollars to own a baseball team, I'm going to
(09:23):
hire a manager that goes by baseball gut instinct, because
I think it's right way more than it's wrong. The
NBA is basically a three point contest and a path
to the an uncontested path of the basket for a dunk,
and three pointers are exciting and the crowd goes wild,
and the regular season scores are one hundred and fifty
seven to one hundred and forty eight, and it's like,
can anybody stop anybody?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Or do we even care?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Because analytics says, don't shoot mid range shots until you
get to the playoffs, and then the teams that can
shoot mid range shots in the playoffs win because we
actually care and play defense in otherwise, we're just basically
having a mixtape for the for the first eighty two
games of the year, analytics is root winning.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It kn'ts I don't. I don't even know what else
to say about my cat.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And again I heard Stephen A. Smith to day chastising
Aaron Boone. Aaron Boone is under direct orders from hal Steinbrenner.
If analytics says do it, you don't have to. But
if you're wrong an analytics says you should have done
it somewhere else, that's a demerit against you. As to
whether I'm gonna keep you around as manager. Yeah, if
you're right with your hunch, okay, great. But if you're
(10:26):
wrong with your hunch, I'm not firing you. If you
do exactly what the computer tells you to do, and
the guy from Yale tells you what to do, but
I am gonna get you are gonna be in hot
water if you if you go against that.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I heard a quick little excerpt from Dan Patrick this morning,
and I didn't really like the way unless I misunderstood it,
but the way he was saying, it's obviously in the
analytics world now it's Hey, instead of taking responsibility and
going with your gut and you're gonna be the one
who gets blamed, you just blame it on the computer.
(11:00):
Oh well, the computer told me to do it, so
it's not my fault. I'm like, really, is that where
we're at these days? To where managers that are getting
paid millions of dollars are going by what a computer says.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, So why do why do I need to pay?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Then?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Why do I need to pay Aaron Boone five million
dollars a year for seven years when I can just
get put the guy in there from Harvard spent out
a few numbers in the computer, and I'll pay him,
you know, eighty thousand a year and call it today,
because that's probably what you're paying your analytics guy anyway,
maybe a little bit more. I don't know what the
what they're getting paid, But why do you know?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Obviously a manager is gonna coddle players or get chastise
players when or teach them things or to teach them technique.
But managers have to manage the game. Coaches have to
manage the game and call plays. And I've never called plays.
I've never managed a baseball game, but I liked when
I'm watching one, I'm kind of managing in my head,
and I look at like and I still don't understand
(11:56):
why Paul Goldschmidt is leading off one game, not playing
the second game, and batting seventh the next game. Because
the guy from Yale says this is the matchup that's
gonna work best. And I think if you're a hitter
and you go back and look at the history of baseball,
and you look at whether it was the Reds and
the seventies that were the best team, the Cardinals and
the Royals in the eighties were among the best teams,
(12:19):
the Atlanta Braves in the nineties and in Minnesota and
those teams in the nineties that were good.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Guess what they always batted at the same spot.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You knew Vince Coleman was gonna lead off, Ozzie Smith
was gonna advance him to he was gonna steal second,
Ausie Smith was gonna push him to third, and Jack
Clark and the other guys were gonna drive him in.
That was That was white Herzog baseball, whitey ball from
the get go.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
By the way, Andy, you want to know why the
uh they don't just have the MLB analytics guys as
the excuse me as the actual guys, because it will
look embarrassing for professional Baseball league teams that are worth
hundreds of millions and billions of dollars. UH. The average
(12:59):
salary and for an MLB data analyst is around eighty
two thousand dollars anywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But tick and Aaron Boone is taking advice from somebody
that's making eighty grand and he's making five million.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Anywhere anywhere between sixty two thousand to ninety seven thousand.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, that's why they are not in charge. First of all,
would look like a joke. Well it is a joke
because the players. The players know this.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So so you get Goldschmid gets on base, Judge gets
on base, Bellinger gets on base. Now I know what
John Carlo Stan's gonna do. He's been doing it since
he's gotten in the bigs. He's gonna swing as hard
as he can and hope it goes someplace. And if
he misses, he's gonna strike out. So I'll give you
that one. But then they had a Madrasario playing second bay. No,
(13:47):
it's Chisholm because he came in for defense. So Chisholm
comes in. He's a slap hitter, he's got a little
bit of power, but he's up there swinging as if
he's Babe Ruth and trying to hit it into the
right field seats just get in play. And then Tran Grisham,
who has power and has hit home runs this year,
is still a singles doubles hitter more than he is
a home run hitter. But then again, and it's trickling
(14:09):
down to all the sports, and I still can't figure out.
I mean, if Keegan Bradley hired an analytics team and
then went with went completely opposite, you know that that's
a problem too. I think analytics can help you. I
think analytics is a good thing if you use it
as a guide, But when it becomes your bible, it
ruins the game and it makes her terrible decisions.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And again, Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Smith and Colin and Dan and all the people that
have come on before me. Today, Aaron Boone made a
dumb decision yesterday getting freed out of the game.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I don't think it was his decision.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He'll say it was his decision because that's what he's
been instructed to say, and that's how he gets to
make another five million dollars. But it's not here, and
I can't imagine. I mean, he's played this game for
twenty years before he managed it. You don't take guys
out of the lineup when they go they're pitching a
shutout and they're not allowing base runners and there's one
(15:01):
out in the six with nobody on base. Now, if
the next guy gets up and linds a double off
the wall, boom the hook comes.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, he's fatigued.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You go out there and you talk to him, and
you make sure that and the players know in playoff games,
you know they they'll always say yes, I'm good, but
you can tell by their body language what they really mean,
and you can if you sense it. They're really fatigued
and tired, and they can't throw. The ninety eight mile
an hour fastball is now ninety two and there's no
movement to it. Okay, you can take them out, but
(15:31):
you can see immediately as soon as Boston saw that
he was coming out of the game and they were
going to what has been a weak mental relief bullpen.
Bednar's been okay and down the stretch closing, but everybody
else been and Tim Hill's been kind of okay, but
everybody else between the starting pitching and those two have
sucked for most of the last two months. And now
you're gonna throw them out there in a It's not
(15:53):
a must win game because you get another chance today
with Rodan, but and I don't care whether it's the
Yankees or the Dodgers or who have We're seeing way
way too much reliance on on on the analytics, and
I think analytics can help. AI is a good thing
if it's if you don't, let you know, Skynette take
over the world. But they're going over. But Skynett was
(16:14):
managing that game yesterday, not Aaron Boone. All right, we
got to get to Dot Garrett. We'll do that next.
It's the Indie Everage Show.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
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