October 8, 2025 • 8 mins
NCAA could soon legalize sports gambling in college athletics
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Shane texted me this article today and I read about
a little bit later on whatever several different websites. But
the NCAA is going to lift the ban of college
athletes betting on professional sports, and I would assume this
also means they can eventually play fantasy sports. As it
(00:25):
sand stands now, if you're a collegiate athlete, you're not
supposed to play fantasy football.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Even if you're putting up your own money, whether.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's ten dollars or ten thousand dollars, you're not supposed
to play fantasy sports. You're also not supposed to bet
on a football game or a professional event. It still
bans college athletes from betting on college events, but I
think that's going to be really difficult to police. And
you know, there's going to be somebody that gets banned
(00:53):
for game or games because they went into a sports
book somewhere and bet on, you know, a college football
game or a college basketball game. If you're a basketball
player at Texas and you bet on the Longhorn football game,
that's just as bad because you know all those guys,
and you may have inside information about whether or not
the team's any good or not, and who they're playing and.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Who's not playing and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I guess I'm okay with this to a certain extent.
But here's the scenario that I can see happening. You
start to lose, even if you're doing it legally, and
whatever money you have to bet on games, you have
a bad streak and you're three four thousand in the hole,
and now you're trying to bet more to catch up.
(01:40):
At some point you're going to get desperate, and what
will you do to get out of your hole that
you have at a legal place. Now, obviously, the bookies
around the world are still going to do their thing,
and there's billions of dollars a year that are gambled
somewhat illegally or one hundred percent illegally, because there's states
that still don't have legalized gambling, Texas being one of them.
(02:03):
But if you're an athlete and you get behind because
you've lost a lot of your a lot of games,
and somebody offers you an opportunity to get that money
back by telling them what's going to happen in your game,
that's where I can see that there's an issue.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You have to be able to do this responsibly.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You have to be twenty one to do it legally,
and my thought is is that there's a lot of
athletes who think that they're invincible on the field. And
it's one thing to be able to do something because
of your god given ability to do it. It's another
thing when you're making a bet and you're basing that
ability on somebody else doing something in your favor. So
(02:42):
that's where I see the potential issue. But I don't
see a big problem in playing fantasy sports. But even now,
this will allow college administrators. I mean, I can't imagine
a football coach. I can't imagine start going into a
sports book and betting on the Cowboys in the text.
But now if you want to, apparently you'll be able
(03:02):
to ask of November first. Players can do the same thing.
But I don't know that a lot of people who
are in administrative administrative roles with schools are going to
even do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Andy, I think this is honestly just a result of
more and more people calling out the NCUBA for hipocrisy
because they don't want players. They didn't want players for
a long time to collect money, and now they're collecting money.
Now all the sports have gambling sponsors and alcohol sponsors,
but all of a sudden, we can't drink, we can't gamble.
So I think this is really just a trickle down
effect of people calling out the n C DOUBLEA for
their hypocrisy, and I think now it's just getting started.
(03:35):
I am actually with you. I don't think that people,
if you play a certain sport, you should should be
a bet on your sport, Like if you play in
the NBA, bet on baseball, it doesn't matter if you
play college basketball. But on the NFL, I think that
I think the fine line I think you would agree
is betting on games not only within your own sport,
but within your own league and with your own team.
That's where this thing could get messy. But beyond that parallel,
(03:55):
I think this is more than acceptable.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well let's just throw out a scenario here, and I'm
not saying these people know each other, but let's just
say that that they do the Russell Wilson for the
Giants not playing right now when he was playing, he's
best friends with.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Luca.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
To say, Luca and Luca's betting on football games with
inside information from Russell Wilson and Russell Wilson's betting on
the NBA from inside information from Luca. You can't tell
me that there's a possibility that something like that wouldn't happen.
So when you tell athletes, well you can bet on
anything that's not your sport or not your league, well,
they still are friends with people in other leagues, and
(04:39):
they can still come up with inside information that they
don't otherwise wouldn't otherwise know if they weren't friends with
that particular person.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And whether one of them's gambling and one of them's not.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
They're still getting information that could be considered proprietary to
the outcome of a game, which is one of the
areas where athletes have an issue with. I think it's
ridiculous in the NFL that an athlete on their cell
phone in a city that is in the state that
allows it can't do it in the lounge of the
locker room, but can walk across the street to the.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Sports bar and do it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But if he's if he's not, you know, six inches
off the property of the NFL, by the by the
the GPS signal and UH and and getting it off
of somebody else's WiFi or over the UH the intern
of the cellular lines, then is he's in violation of
an NFL law. I think it's ridiculous that NFL employees
(05:34):
can't play blackjack or rolette roulette at the casino, But
that's the NFL rule. And so you want to be
an NFL employee, you want to be an NFL you
want to you want to be an involved in the NFL.
You can't gamble, uh, and I know that UH. Administrators
at colleges right now can't play fantasy sports, can't gamble
(05:56):
on games. They can't even do Super Bowl squares. So
all of that now because more of an opportunity for them,
should they choose to do that, And hopefully it's there's
an eagle eye on it, because I can see some
issues that we may have with that in the future.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I agree with you. I actually think that just beyond that,
I think that since we've talked, since you at least
talked about that, that you think an I all needs
a salary cap and there needs to be stipulations put
in place. I think that the stipulation is put in
place for players gambling also needs to be if there's
a sponsorship issue, like for instance, if there's a sports
book that's ah, let's let's say FanDuel sponsors my school,
(06:34):
Texas Tech. Then I think then I think gambling with
FanDuel is more than okay, but they can't go through
like Caesars and stuff like that. I think there might
be stipulations in terms of sponsorships that can get in
line with this as well.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The thing that I find quite ironic is that Fox
Sports Southwest that became Ballets that is now fan Duel.
They're the network that cut that that broadcast Texas high
school football games in December, and they're sponsored by it
because but we don't necessarily want people gambling on our games.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Uh and uh that's uh, that's the issue that we
that we have there.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I uh yeah, I think it's kind of weird
that you don't want to teach high school kids to
play fantasy games, you don't want high school athletes to
do this or that, and yet the network that's carrying
their games is got the revenue of a casino.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, especially in states for sports gamblon's already legalized, like UNLV,
who's right in the heart of the of the gambling
epicenter of America, right in Las Vegas or cities, you know,
like in New Orleans where Gamblin's already rampant. I think
they're I think the a skewedness of it might also
could also could argue benefit players to want to play
at those schools as well. So like if Texas doesn't
legalized sports gambling in that regard, and a player knows
(07:48):
they won't make us much money through an IL, but
they can probably get through gambling, they might say, I
might want to play for texts and might play for
Texas Tech, but you know, like I can go play
for Louisiana Tech. They allow sports gambling up and street
for it. I think I think that can factors. I
wouldn't go play Louisiantech over over over a big twelve
school or something like that, but that that could factor
in as well.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
They could. All right, we'll continue with this. We're going
to talk to J. J.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Perez in the six o'clock hour, So here from Sarka
on the oh You game this weekend and a much
more coming up in the next few minutes.
Shane texted me this article today and I read about
a little bit later on whatever several different websites. But
the NCAA is going to lift the ban of college
athletes betting on professional sports, and I would assume this
also means they can eventually play fantasy sports. As it
(00:25):
sand stands now, if you're a collegiate athlete, you're not
supposed to play fantasy football.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Even if you're putting up your own money, whether.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's ten dollars or ten thousand dollars, you're not supposed
to play fantasy sports. You're also not supposed to bet
on a football game or a professional event. It still
bans college athletes from betting on college events, but I
think that's going to be really difficult to police. And
you know, there's going to be somebody that gets banned
(00:53):
for game or games because they went into a sports
book somewhere and bet on, you know, a college football
game or a college basketball game. If you're a basketball
player at Texas and you bet on the Longhorn football game,
that's just as bad because you know all those guys,
and you may have inside information about whether or not
the team's any good or not, and who they're playing and.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Who's not playing and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I guess I'm okay with this to a certain extent.
But here's the scenario that I can see happening. You
start to lose, even if you're doing it legally, and
whatever money you have to bet on games, you have
a bad streak and you're three four thousand in the hole,
and now you're trying to bet more to catch up.
(01:40):
At some point you're going to get desperate, and what
will you do to get out of your hole that
you have at a legal place. Now, obviously, the bookies
around the world are still going to do their thing,
and there's billions of dollars a year that are gambled
somewhat illegally or one hundred percent illegally, because there's states
that still don't have legalized gambling, Texas being one of them.
(02:03):
But if you're an athlete and you get behind because
you've lost a lot of your a lot of games,
and somebody offers you an opportunity to get that money
back by telling them what's going to happen in your game,
that's where I can see that there's an issue.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You have to be able to do this responsibly.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You have to be twenty one to do it legally,
and my thought is is that there's a lot of
athletes who think that they're invincible on the field. And
it's one thing to be able to do something because
of your god given ability to do it. It's another
thing when you're making a bet and you're basing that
ability on somebody else doing something in your favor. So
(02:42):
that's where I see the potential issue. But I don't
see a big problem in playing fantasy sports. But even now,
this will allow college administrators. I mean, I can't imagine
a football coach. I can't imagine start going into a
sports book and betting on the Cowboys in the text.
But now if you want to, apparently you'll be able
(03:02):
to ask of November first. Players can do the same thing.
But I don't know that a lot of people who
are in administrative administrative roles with schools are going to
even do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Andy, I think this is honestly just a result of
more and more people calling out the NCUBA for hipocrisy
because they don't want players. They didn't want players for
a long time to collect money, and now they're collecting money.
Now all the sports have gambling sponsors and alcohol sponsors,
but all of a sudden, we can't drink, we can't gamble.
So I think this is really just a trickle down
effect of people calling out the n C DOUBLEA for
their hypocrisy, and I think now it's just getting started.
(03:35):
I am actually with you. I don't think that people,
if you play a certain sport, you should should be
a bet on your sport, Like if you play in
the NBA, bet on baseball, it doesn't matter if you
play college basketball. But on the NFL, I think that
I think the fine line I think you would agree
is betting on games not only within your own sport,
but within your own league and with your own team.
That's where this thing could get messy. But beyond that parallel,
(03:55):
I think this is more than acceptable.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well let's just throw out a scenario here, and I'm
not saying these people know each other, but let's just
say that that they do the Russell Wilson for the
Giants not playing right now when he was playing, he's
best friends with.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Luca.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
To say, Luca and Luca's betting on football games with
inside information from Russell Wilson and Russell Wilson's betting on
the NBA from inside information from Luca. You can't tell
me that there's a possibility that something like that wouldn't happen.
So when you tell athletes, well you can bet on
anything that's not your sport or not your league, well,
they still are friends with people in other leagues, and
(04:39):
they can still come up with inside information that they
don't otherwise wouldn't otherwise know if they weren't friends with
that particular person.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And whether one of them's gambling and one of them's not.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
They're still getting information that could be considered proprietary to
the outcome of a game, which is one of the
areas where athletes have an issue with. I think it's
ridiculous in the NFL that an athlete on their cell
phone in a city that is in the state that
allows it can't do it in the lounge of the
locker room, but can walk across the street to the.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Sports bar and do it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But if he's if he's not, you know, six inches
off the property of the NFL, by the by the
the GPS signal and UH and and getting it off
of somebody else's WiFi or over the UH the intern
of the cellular lines, then is he's in violation of
an NFL law. I think it's ridiculous that NFL employees
(05:34):
can't play blackjack or rolette roulette at the casino, But
that's the NFL rule. And so you want to be
an NFL employee, you want to be an NFL you
want to you want to be an involved in the NFL.
You can't gamble, uh, and I know that UH. Administrators
at colleges right now can't play fantasy sports, can't gamble
(05:56):
on games. They can't even do Super Bowl squares. So
all of that now because more of an opportunity for them,
should they choose to do that, And hopefully it's there's
an eagle eye on it, because I can see some
issues that we may have with that in the future.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I agree with you. I actually think that just beyond that,
I think that since we've talked, since you at least
talked about that, that you think an I all needs
a salary cap and there needs to be stipulations put
in place. I think that the stipulation is put in
place for players gambling also needs to be if there's
a sponsorship issue, like for instance, if there's a sports
book that's ah, let's let's say FanDuel sponsors my school,
(06:34):
Texas Tech. Then I think then I think gambling with
FanDuel is more than okay, but they can't go through
like Caesars and stuff like that. I think there might
be stipulations in terms of sponsorships that can get in
line with this as well.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The thing that I find quite ironic is that Fox
Sports Southwest that became Ballets that is now fan Duel.
They're the network that cut that that broadcast Texas high
school football games in December, and they're sponsored by it
because but we don't necessarily want people gambling on our games.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Uh and uh that's uh, that's the issue that we
that we have there.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I uh yeah, I think it's kind of weird
that you don't want to teach high school kids to
play fantasy games, you don't want high school athletes to
do this or that, and yet the network that's carrying
their games is got the revenue of a casino.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, especially in states for sports gamblon's already legalized, like UNLV,
who's right in the heart of the of the gambling
epicenter of America, right in Las Vegas or cities, you know,
like in New Orleans where Gamblin's already rampant. I think
they're I think the a skewedness of it might also
could also could argue benefit players to want to play
at those schools as well. So like if Texas doesn't
legalized sports gambling in that regard, and a player knows
(07:48):
they won't make us much money through an IL, but
they can probably get through gambling, they might say, I
might want to play for texts and might play for
Texas Tech, but you know, like I can go play
for Louisiana Tech. They allow sports gambling up and street
for it. I think I think that can factors. I
wouldn't go play Louisiantech over over over a big twelve
school or something like that, but that that could factor
in as well.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
They could. All right, we'll continue with this. We're going
to talk to J. J.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Perez in the six o'clock hour, So here from Sarka
on the oh You game this weekend and a much
more coming up in the next few minutes.
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