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Speaker 1 (00:03):
My name's Dylan. I'll be getting you there as Andy
is on his last day of vak uh. He he
will be in tomorrow, correct my, yes, correct me. If
I'm at home, he's already home from Stewart. I think. So.
I like to bring in sports of the unknown, and
I did that in the last segment. Uh, you know,
there are some other categories. I'm just letting you know.
(00:23):
There's Western trail okay, and there's dress Hodge Dressardge dress.
This stuff's been going on for a while.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Man, be careful if you're at work and you decide
to type that in. I'm just saying, HR might call
you be like, what are you looking? Anyways, a lot
of things to get into. I know, I kind of
went into the Spurs in the first hour. I'm gonna
kind of get into the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We've got the Pacers, We've got the Thunders, Thunders, thunders. Wow.
See you give me a little bit sip of red pool.
You know, here we go. I got two hours to go. No,
I actually want to pause on the finals a little bit. More.
People are like, hey, come on, man, Well you guys
keep saying it on social media. You don't care. So
I'm not going to talk about it. How about that.
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Let's talk about our good friend Tom Thibodeau. Thank you
Bibbodeaux for those of you playing at home, not Thibodeau,
it's Thibodeaux. Yes, he was let go by the New
York Knicks. Was it his fault that the New York
Knicks had a choke job? Was it his fault? Somebody
please explain to me. Just like in Sacramento, it must
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have been Mike Brown's fault, right, Just like in Denver
it was Malone's fault. Right, Yeah, you know. I mean,
because that's such a great idea to have these coaches.
I love the fact. Earlier in the week too, speaking
of Denver, the new head coach looks like the guy
from Mad Libs. That's that's where it's You're welcome. That
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is now in your head as you drive home. Please
do not rearend anybody, Please be careful, don't look up
Mad Libs. That's the head coach of the Denver Nuggets,
like the caricature mad TV. Yes, mad TV. There there
we go. Did we hear him last week say, yeah,
the Nuggets were we were out of shape? Hmm, yeah,
I wonder who could have fixed that problem. Oh wait,
(02:10):
you fired him. I still don't know why they fired
him Malone. I get that there was a tiff between
the GM and the head coach, but this dude literally
won you an NBA championship two years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think that's the main thing is they maybe thought that, hey,
there are some players that might be team Malone, other
players that might be team whatever the GM, and they
just decided to get rid of them both.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And here's the thing, fresh off their deepest playoff run
in twenty five years, the New York Knicks fire Thibodeau. Huh,
that's what they do? Man, Where does that make sense?
It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You can argue that the biggest thing, obviously for Tibbs
is he's a very defensive style first coach. He doesn't
I'm not gonna say trust, but he doesn't use his
bench that much.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
He doesn't go deep into his band. You don't need to.
I keep telling people that the basketball game is changing,
stop it, grow with it, or get out of it.
I don't know about it. I'm not gonna go twelve
deep on my bench when I could go to the
freaking NBA Finals on a nine man rotation, and that's
what everybody's trying to draft. But with two of your
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top players on your team with the Knicks being defensive
liabilities because Cat, you know, it was totally perfect in
the playoffs, totally. This guy is great. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Is Offensively, offensively, Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns are
very good. I'll say Cat Cat is a good offensive player.
Jalen Brunson is extremely good offensive player. But both of
those guys can't defend worth anything.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And when you have two of those liabilities, and I
told to Pat yesterday, when you have to take your
star and superstar off the court because you need a
defensive stop, and you have to put in Mitchell Robinson.
So again that that's a big that's a big issue.
Now we do we don't. We tend to forget the
postgame press conferences that happen. And Jalen Brunson was actually
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asked about this on the podium, Yeah, after a Game
six loss, and his quote was, is.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
This a real question right now? You just ask me
if I believe he's the right guy? Yes, come on.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, And then Mike dropped and ended and it's like
you're done after that?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Was it a day to day? He is the right guy.
He's in New York. It's the longest playoff run that
you've done in twenty five years. He was He was
the longest tenured Knicks head coach. This has been the
most bad year in the NBA for head coaches because
anybody who sucked, by the way, that's a test.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So if you hear something that's just started, just the
fire alarm, it's just a test, everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Thanks for doing a test at five o'clock. It's great.
Does that mean I get to go home? No, that's
not mean. Yeah, I even forgot where it was. No,
it's been the crazy. That's craziest here that our fire
alarm goes off. But it's because I've on fire. You
are I got jokes because I'm a dad. You you're
firing guys that are winning like I I like. It
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doesn't make sense in Memphis, huh? In Denver?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah? In Sacramento are you kidding me? And now in
New York? But that but who are you not firing?
Who are you not firing? James Dolan the owner? What
are we doing Charlotte, how are we doing there? Yeah?
I still got a job, don't we Yeah? Right, we suck.
But you know what, it's not your fault because it's
not their fault. They're the coaches. This is the talent.
It's a GM. It's a GM's responsibility to bring a
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winning team from from what the story was is it
was the uh really annoying. Wow, just fight through it.
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It's it was the GM's decision thing. But Leon, I
forget as it would something Mudson I believe that was
his name, but the GM for the Knicks, he was
the one that kind of made the call and then
had the support of James Dolan. I don't get it because, again,
like you mentioned, he he's won the second most playoff
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games in a series or in a playoff run this
year with ten. The only one that had more was
Van Gundy in ninety nine. He's the second longest tenured
New York Knicks head coach since Jeff Van Gundy.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And mind that five years, Yeah, five years, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Your second longest tenured coach since Van Gundy. Again, it's
just it's what the Knicks do, man, It's what they do.
Again when it happened. I was I was shocked. I
was like, I don't I don't get it. I don't
get it. I think you could have are I saw
a little bit of writing on the wall somewhat during
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the Pistons series to work because I had asked Andy, Hey,
if the Knicks lose to the Pistons, does Tom Thibodeau
get fired?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And we really didn't hear about it, because that's the thing.
No we heard. There were no speculations. What's well, I understand,
and there's like the I meaning and by the way,
are these doors fireproof? I'm just got it's still going off.
It's just a test. I know that this is a test, right, right.
We all know what AP means. Right for us that
work in employeeing offices, you know it means assembly point.
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Did you know that? No? Now you know that as
his fire drill is going off means Shane, I can't
make radio up, my friend, this is what happens live
on the radio.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But to me, I don't understand the whole firing a
guy that got you to the furthest that you've been
since nineteen ninety nine. And I get it, like this
dude shows no emotion, right. Thibodeau is the guy that
you see at the pizza parlor in New York City
and he's in the back and you're like, hey, what's
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going on, tib and ah, nothing much, just sitting here
having a slice of pizza. It's like, whould you just
kill Thibodeau? I can't tell you, you know, but it's like,
he's the guy that he knows what it takes to win,
and they and the New York Knicks had the talent.
Don't get me wrong. Yeah, I mean they By the way,
everybody's chiming in now saying they can hear the alarm.
(08:24):
Of course you can hear the alarm. You're welcome. Shout
out to our friends at Valero Energy.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
By the way, I think some of it is because
of the style of coaching that Tom Thibodeau was doing.
We heard a little bit of anonymous reports coming out
from within the organization.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Obviously probably players longest test ever.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Talking about you know, hey, Karl Anthony Towns being a liability.
And we all know that the NBA at this point,
for most teams, it's a players it's a players league.
They run the team to a certain extent, not here.
But if if there were so many players that decided
to say, hey, we don't want him here anymore. Huh,
you know, or we're going to demand out now. Granted
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Jaylen Brunton for at least what we have on record,
he was a Tom Thibodeau guy. So I don't get it.
I'm gonna here's what's gonna happen. They're gonna go hire
somebody that Steven A.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Smith. I heard somebody today. It was please do it.
It was McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Jason McIntyre said, you know what, go get Mark Jackson
because he's Nick Royalty.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Go get Steve Nash. Mark Jackson. By the way, that
NBA hoops card, random fact, he're about to become rain man.
Have you seen the Mark Jackson NBA hoops card for
the New York Knicks. The men didn't men, Well, how
do somebody help me? Mendez brothers are in the back
of it. Menindez brother we got some history to go over.
(09:51):
You don't know they killed their parents. Man. Oh, there's
a whole like Netflix thing. Ma, you need to get
out more. I live here, you know exactly when the
fire alarms go off to that. I don't like I'm
ready for fire Marshall Bill to come in here and
be like, what is the problem? Man? I will go
check saying because I'm like, is ac so are we done? No,
(10:14):
it's not so. It's live radio, folks, this is what
you do.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But it's gonna be hilarious who they decide to go
get and like if they legit, go and get some
like what Phoenix did with Jordan Jonathan Ott whatever his
name is. If they go and get some random, random guy,
I'm gonna be like, all right, that's how I know
you're doing the Phoenix Suns and you're gonna blow this
team up.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Why would the Knicks want to do that when they've
been They've they've now been relevant. Wow, the gentlemen breaking
news here. The fire alarm is off, no fires have
been detected, Jesus, But why.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Would you want to do that? Because okay, it's the
New York Knicks.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Man. Oh, come on, you can't say that about every team.
The only team that you can say that in here, sorry, ty,
is the Cleveland realm Okay, like they're the only team
that qualifies for that, which, by the way, the Dallas
Cowboys are the Cleveland Browns of the South proved me wrong,
But you can't. You can't do like I don't see
the Knicks doing that, dude, I do, because it's what
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they do. That's a reach man, how that is what
they're gonna tell me. You're gonna go from the furthest
that you've been in twenty five seasons to just go
tank it up for what? Because it's it's the fans.
If Boston's getting ready to implode. You can't tag the
East all over again. Cleveland. We don't know what they're
gonna do. Are they gonna be Oklahoma City times too?
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With the redemption toward next season? Because everybody was saying
cavalanche And you're gonna tell me New York's just gonna say, yep, tibito,
We're just gonna go ahead and fade away. I doubt that, dude.
It's the New York Knicks. You have to be relevant
in Eastern Conference play, and the New York Knicks haven't
been relevant for twenty five years. And you're gonna say,
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once you get to the top, you're just gonna say,
adiey listen, wachacos.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I agree, bro, I agree, And again that's where this
move it's like everything that you're throwing out there, why
did you decide to do this? You were having success
four out of the five years. Tom Thibodeaux got you
in the East, got you in the playoffs this last year,
second deepest run that they've had since ninety nine, and
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all of a sudden, you're just.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Like, hey, we're blowing it up. Why.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I don't understand why, because now it's already talking about
because of.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
How your own players are, Like, why is that even
a real question? And in three days later he's gone,
no clue, man, no clue.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I don't know if it was again because of how
bad Karl Anthony towns Is defense got exposed and how
bad Jalen Brunton's defense got exposed. You're I've already started
seeing that, hey, they're gonna move on and trade Karl
Anthony Towns because it's just it's didn't work.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So his point five to seven to nine career winning percentage,
by the way, is the highest by any coach without
a finals appearance. So your excuse is you didn't get
me to the finals because well, we all didn't know
that Indiana was just gonna catch freaking fire and get
to the finals. And be determined to get to the finals.
And so since you have this one off year, which
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by the way, the Knicks knocked off, they're defending champions,
and you fire a guy that does that, it doesn't
make sense exactly. You know why. It doesn't make a whoopee?
What do we do when you know why?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It doesn't make sense but makes sense because it's the Nit's.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
What they do. It does not make sense. It doesn't
make sense to you. You want indeed, right now, I'm
gonna find on indeed because they need to freaking post
a general manager posting on indeed for this.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Maybe maybe Nico Harrison called geez, yeah, oh geez, they
have to bring in n Maybe the next GM asked
Nico for some advice.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
All right, well, coming up, it just doesn't make sense
to me. I had to get it off my chest.
But coming up, we're going to actually talk to the finals.