October 8, 2025 • 9 mins
Dr. Jason Garrett gives fans a realistic idea of how/if the OU QB could potentially play this weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's time to visit with doctor Jason Garrett with a ROSTI.
Good afternoon, Jason, how are things.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Things are good?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
How are you doing very well?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Enjoying this setting out here at Rocco and Martillo. The
Spurs practice facilities off to our left, and a great
restaurant out here at Rocco and Martilla.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
If you haven't been, come try it out.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Let's start with John Mattier, the ou quarterback who just
two weeks ago had surgery. I can't imagine he's gonna
play this weekend against Texas, but he says he wants to,
and there's maybe an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I mean, it's a long shot anytime you have surgery
and then come back that quickly on your throwing hands.
So he broke a bone in his hand, had surgery,
probably put a pin in there, which makes the bone
pretty much as strong as it was before, But there's
still a lot of healing that haus to occur. So
even if it's just as strong and he can use it,
it's got to be extremely painful and there's a good
chance to get rip open the stoutures and the incision.
(00:57):
Even if it is a micro incision, there's still you're
cutting through tissue to get into a bone. You got
a drill in there. I mean you're talking six weeks
for that bone to really heal, So, I mean six
weeks of pain, and every time you grip a ball
or somebody hits it, it's going to be excruciating and
you've run the risk of re injuring it. So I'm
not sure if it's the greatest idea ever. Mean, it'd
be a cool story if he does it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Though, Yeah, but it's it's oh U Texas, So I
guess that's probably the motivation.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, and I know he's a Heisman candidate, but I
don't think he really has a chance after missing a
couple of games, So why risk it. I don't think
it's the greatest idea.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right, tell me about the biceps and the triceps.
I saw several players have had bicep injuries recently. Where's
the biceps and the triceps? How do they work together?
And what happens when those muscles get torn?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So everyone knows your biceps, that's your beach muscle. When
you flex your Arnold Swartzeneger muscles, your tricep is the
one on the backside that looks like a small horse
kicks you there. If you have real good definition. The
two muscles are antagonistic. So for example, the bicep helps
you pull things towards you, helps you eat. It's called
a supernater. Your tricep is like for a football player,
if you're pushing a lineman pushing against the other lineman,
(02:08):
that's a lot of trice As a bench press helps
with the triceps help with that. Those two muscles need
to work in symmetry and not against each other. Sometimes
with certain movements, if you're caught off guard, both of
those can contract at the same time, and sometimes the
stronger one wins, like for example, your bicep ten and
may tear, or you may tear your tricep ten or
just pull one of those muscles. The bicep is really fragile.
(02:31):
It actually is pretty easy to tear, not so much
on the far end where the ball the muscle balls
up and rolls up your arm, but on the top
end it inserts right into your laborum and so it
becomes an issue for major shoulder issues as well.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So when your exercise, do you need to exercise both
of them to keep them similarly strong.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, you do. You want to balance those out pretty well.
So typically you want to build your biceps with your back,
so you like the backend by day, chest and tried to.
You can work them together as well, like you do
push ups and pull ups in the same day. But
balance is the key making sure you whatever you do,
you give yourself enough time to recover so the muscle
can heal between sessions.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
All right, let's talk about cramping. What causes it? Why
do we cramp? Because I've seen athletes do it when
it's one hundred and five or forty or twenty five,
they still get cramps, especially Charlie Horse cramps in the
in the calf, wherever it happens.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
What causes it? How do you prevent it?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
There are a ton of reasons for cramping, but let's
try to focus mostly on the sports ones because that's
when that's the most common we're talking about. It's usually dehydration,
electrolyte imbalanced or just absolute fatigue. So at some point
you've depleted all the potassium and sodium pump within the muscles.
It allows it to contract and even if it's hotter cold,
Even if you haven't sweat that much, you just your
(03:53):
muscles can only tolerate so much. And in games you
can get pretty amped up and go outside your normal ability.
And it's almost always towards the end of the game
where you getting fatigued and then the muscle doesn't contract correctly.
Your nervous system is sending the signal like a nervous
signal actually to that muscle and makes it contract for
some reason, it basically misfires. And once that happens, it's
really hard to get out of it. It's hard to
(04:15):
go back to a high level performance. You can recover quickly,
the getting right back in the game is a big challenge.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, I'm gonna throw this at you, and I think
I know the answer, but I'll let you come up
with it. Before I decided to quit drinking a thousand
gallons of sugar a week, I got cramps all the time,
especially at night. And now that I don't consume as
much sugar, I don't nearly have them hardly at all.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Is the sugar part of the issue.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, So the sugar depletes your body. So basically anything
you drink that is you know, has a high level
heighth concentration of things that's not just water in it,
and assuming you're not replacing the electrolytes like you need to,
sugar causes you to push out more electrolytes and so
it depletes that one too, causes a spike in glucose
and glycogen, which also deplete your muscles and causes more cramping.
(05:06):
So basically, drinking more sugar causes more cramps.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
All right, I thought, So, okay, what is cortisol and
what does it do? Why is it important?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Cortisol is a natural occurring hormone. It's probably one of
the most important hormones we have. It gets vilified quite
a bit, so it's extremely important for alertness for high
stress situations. It should raise in the morning to help
you wake up, give you more mental clarity, give you
more energy. It pulls glucose out of your blood into
your muscle, so you get a glucose spike and you
have more energy. Where it becomes a problem is when
(05:37):
it's unregulated or imbalanced. So people that are in a
constant state of stress, either from work or living conditions,
your body stays in a high state of cortisol because
it's always in a fight or flight condition. When it
does that, it actually causes more muscle damage, so instead
of like building your muscles, it causes them to break down,
causes fatigue, causes sleep issues. It's a highly toxic hormone
(06:01):
if you have it too much too often. It's also
toxic if you don't have enough, so it really needs
to be well regulated by your hormones.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
When a person wakes up, should they be hungry and
what happens if they're not?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It depends. That's very unique to each person. So if
you're in a state of muscle building, or you've done
a lot of exercise the next day, you should wake
up hungry because your body is trying to build on
top of that. Sometimes it's weird. I can have a
massive meal right before I go to sleep, and I'll
wake up starving. Other Times I won't eat a whole
lot and I'll wake up not very hungry. Your body
(06:36):
has different demands different needs. In general, though, if you've
fasted for six, eight, ten hours, your body should be hungry,
but you can train it to not be so. If
you do intermittent fasting, the first month or so might
be pretty challenging because you're gonna wake up starving, but
then your body gets used to it and your body
regulates that, and then you're no longer hungry. So it
(06:57):
is very dependent on the person and the situation.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Our friend Gary Breca that we both follow, believes in
doing deep breath exercises every day.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
What does that help us do and what are your
thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well, speaking of cortisol, if you have high levels of cortisol,
it can help lower it, It can lower your heart rate,
it can reduce stress, it can help with sleep. There's
lots of different techniques you can do. Most of them
are pretty simple, Like one's called box breathing, where you
inhale for four seconds, hold that for four seconds, exhale
for four seconds, and then hold that for four seconds.
(07:32):
So basically all four sides of a box box breathing
do that for a couple of minutes. It's harder than
it sounds because it's kind of hard to hold your
breath for four seconds after you've exhaled, and initially your
heart rate's probably gonna go up, but if you do
it for a couple of minutes, your heart rate's going
to drop down. Your parasympathetic, nervous system is going to
kick in and relax you. And then just google different
types of breathing. There's a million of them out there.
(07:53):
You know, some are better for some people than others.
And figure out which one works for you and give
it a shot it's good for.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You, and probably do it the first time sitting down
or laying down because you could get light headed.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, if you accidentally hyperventilate or kind of get off
on your timing, you're just not used to it. It
is pretty easy to actually cause yourself to pass out.
It happens all the time. So yeah, make sure you're
in a safe place, not in some place where you
can fall and hit your head. Are driving, poor Joe, Yeah,
don't do it driving please.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Okay, what's the next training session for you? And on
your quest for the next CrossFit games, I've.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Got a competition coming up called Power Hour on October
twenty fourth, and then a Pardner competition called Best of
the Worst Indi bron FLEs during Worst Fest on November seventh.
So those are my next two big competitions.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Awesome, thanks as always, Jason. We'll do it again next week,
all right, Thanks Dady All right. That's doctor Jason Garrett
from Marosti trying to keep us healthy, giving us all
the details on what these injuries are that athletes have
and if they ever occur with us in a situation,
how we can work around it. Let's talk baseball. Four
games on the docket today and some big ones last
(09:05):
night as well. That conversation's coming up. It's the Indie
average show on the ticket
It's time to visit with doctor Jason Garrett with a ROSTI.
Good afternoon, Jason, how are things.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Things are good?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
How are you doing very well?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Enjoying this setting out here at Rocco and Martillo. The
Spurs practice facilities off to our left, and a great
restaurant out here at Rocco and Martilla.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
If you haven't been, come try it out.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Let's start with John Mattier, the ou quarterback who just
two weeks ago had surgery. I can't imagine he's gonna
play this weekend against Texas, but he says he wants to,
and there's maybe an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I mean, it's a long shot anytime you have surgery
and then come back that quickly on your throwing hands.
So he broke a bone in his hand, had surgery,
probably put a pin in there, which makes the bone
pretty much as strong as it was before, But there's
still a lot of healing that haus to occur. So
even if it's just as strong and he can use it,
it's got to be extremely painful and there's a good
chance to get rip open the stoutures and the incision.
(00:57):
Even if it is a micro incision, there's still you're
cutting through tissue to get into a bone. You got
a drill in there. I mean you're talking six weeks
for that bone to really heal, So, I mean six
weeks of pain, and every time you grip a ball
or somebody hits it, it's going to be excruciating and
you've run the risk of re injuring it. So I'm
not sure if it's the greatest idea ever. Mean, it'd
be a cool story if he does it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Though, Yeah, but it's it's oh U Texas, So I
guess that's probably the motivation.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, and I know he's a Heisman candidate, but I
don't think he really has a chance after missing a
couple of games, So why risk it. I don't think
it's the greatest idea.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right, tell me about the biceps and the triceps.
I saw several players have had bicep injuries recently. Where's
the biceps and the triceps? How do they work together?
And what happens when those muscles get torn?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So everyone knows your biceps, that's your beach muscle. When
you flex your Arnold Swartzeneger muscles, your tricep is the
one on the backside that looks like a small horse
kicks you there. If you have real good definition. The
two muscles are antagonistic. So for example, the bicep helps
you pull things towards you, helps you eat. It's called
a supernater. Your tricep is like for a football player,
if you're pushing a lineman pushing against the other lineman,
(02:08):
that's a lot of trice As a bench press helps
with the triceps help with that. Those two muscles need
to work in symmetry and not against each other. Sometimes
with certain movements, if you're caught off guard, both of
those can contract at the same time, and sometimes the
stronger one wins, like for example, your bicep ten and
may tear, or you may tear your tricep ten or
just pull one of those muscles. The bicep is really fragile.
(02:31):
It actually is pretty easy to tear, not so much
on the far end where the ball the muscle balls
up and rolls up your arm, but on the top
end it inserts right into your laborum and so it
becomes an issue for major shoulder issues as well.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So when your exercise, do you need to exercise both
of them to keep them similarly strong.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, you do. You want to balance those out pretty well.
So typically you want to build your biceps with your back,
so you like the backend by day, chest and tried to.
You can work them together as well, like you do
push ups and pull ups in the same day. But
balance is the key making sure you whatever you do,
you give yourself enough time to recover so the muscle
can heal between sessions.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
All right, let's talk about cramping. What causes it? Why
do we cramp? Because I've seen athletes do it when
it's one hundred and five or forty or twenty five,
they still get cramps, especially Charlie Horse cramps in the
in the calf, wherever it happens.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
What causes it? How do you prevent it?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
There are a ton of reasons for cramping, but let's
try to focus mostly on the sports ones because that's
when that's the most common we're talking about. It's usually dehydration,
electrolyte imbalanced or just absolute fatigue. So at some point
you've depleted all the potassium and sodium pump within the muscles.
It allows it to contract and even if it's hotter cold,
Even if you haven't sweat that much, you just your
(03:53):
muscles can only tolerate so much. And in games you
can get pretty amped up and go outside your normal ability.
And it's almost always towards the end of the game
where you getting fatigued and then the muscle doesn't contract correctly.
Your nervous system is sending the signal like a nervous
signal actually to that muscle and makes it contract for
some reason, it basically misfires. And once that happens, it's
really hard to get out of it. It's hard to
(04:15):
go back to a high level performance. You can recover quickly,
the getting right back in the game is a big challenge.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, I'm gonna throw this at you, and I think
I know the answer, but I'll let you come up
with it. Before I decided to quit drinking a thousand
gallons of sugar a week, I got cramps all the time,
especially at night. And now that I don't consume as
much sugar, I don't nearly have them hardly at all.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Is the sugar part of the issue.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, So the sugar depletes your body. So basically anything
you drink that is you know, has a high level
heighth concentration of things that's not just water in it,
and assuming you're not replacing the electrolytes like you need to,
sugar causes you to push out more electrolytes and so
it depletes that one too, causes a spike in glucose
and glycogen, which also deplete your muscles and causes more cramping.
(05:06):
So basically, drinking more sugar causes more cramps.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
All right, I thought, So, okay, what is cortisol and
what does it do? Why is it important?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Cortisol is a natural occurring hormone. It's probably one of
the most important hormones we have. It gets vilified quite
a bit, so it's extremely important for alertness for high
stress situations. It should raise in the morning to help
you wake up, give you more mental clarity, give you
more energy. It pulls glucose out of your blood into
your muscle, so you get a glucose spike and you
have more energy. Where it becomes a problem is when
(05:37):
it's unregulated or imbalanced. So people that are in a
constant state of stress, either from work or living conditions,
your body stays in a high state of cortisol because
it's always in a fight or flight condition. When it
does that, it actually causes more muscle damage, so instead
of like building your muscles, it causes them to break down,
causes fatigue, causes sleep issues. It's a highly toxic hormone
(06:01):
if you have it too much too often. It's also
toxic if you don't have enough, so it really needs
to be well regulated by your hormones.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
When a person wakes up, should they be hungry and
what happens if they're not?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It depends. That's very unique to each person. So if
you're in a state of muscle building, or you've done
a lot of exercise the next day, you should wake
up hungry because your body is trying to build on
top of that. Sometimes it's weird. I can have a
massive meal right before I go to sleep, and I'll
wake up starving. Other Times I won't eat a whole
lot and I'll wake up not very hungry. Your body
(06:36):
has different demands different needs. In general, though, if you've
fasted for six, eight, ten hours, your body should be hungry,
but you can train it to not be so. If
you do intermittent fasting, the first month or so might
be pretty challenging because you're gonna wake up starving, but
then your body gets used to it and your body
regulates that, and then you're no longer hungry. So it
(06:57):
is very dependent on the person and the situation.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Our friend Gary Breca that we both follow, believes in
doing deep breath exercises every day.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
What does that help us do and what are your
thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well, speaking of cortisol, if you have high levels of cortisol,
it can help lower it, It can lower your heart rate,
it can reduce stress, it can help with sleep. There's
lots of different techniques you can do. Most of them
are pretty simple, Like one's called box breathing, where you
inhale for four seconds, hold that for four seconds, exhale
for four seconds, and then hold that for four seconds.
(07:32):
So basically all four sides of a box box breathing
do that for a couple of minutes. It's harder than
it sounds because it's kind of hard to hold your
breath for four seconds after you've exhaled, and initially your
heart rate's probably gonna go up, but if you do
it for a couple of minutes, your heart rate's going
to drop down. Your parasympathetic, nervous system is going to
kick in and relax you. And then just google different
types of breathing. There's a million of them out there.
(07:53):
You know, some are better for some people than others.
And figure out which one works for you and give
it a shot it's good for.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You, and probably do it the first time sitting down
or laying down because you could get light headed.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, if you accidentally hyperventilate or kind of get off
on your timing, you're just not used to it. It
is pretty easy to actually cause yourself to pass out.
It happens all the time. So yeah, make sure you're
in a safe place, not in some place where you
can fall and hit your head. Are driving, poor Joe, Yeah,
don't do it driving please.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Okay, what's the next training session for you? And on
your quest for the next CrossFit games, I've.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Got a competition coming up called Power Hour on October
twenty fourth, and then a Pardner competition called Best of
the Worst Indi bron FLEs during Worst Fest on November seventh.
So those are my next two big competitions.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Awesome, thanks as always, Jason. We'll do it again next week,
all right, Thanks Dady All right. That's doctor Jason Garrett
from Marosti trying to keep us healthy, giving us all
the details on what these injuries are that athletes have
and if they ever occur with us in a situation,
how we can work around it. Let's talk baseball. Four
games on the docket today and some big ones last
(09:05):
night as well. That conversation's coming up. It's the Indie
average show on the ticket
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