September 3, 2025 • 8 mins
Dr. Jason Garrett explores Micah’s back issue plus tips for gaining protein.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
A chance, says, as we do on every Wednesday, or
is it with doctor Jason Garrick from a ROSTI? How
are you today? Jason?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm good? How are you doing? Andy?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Very good? Out here at the IRAQ where the Spurs
work out and get ready for games the season right
around the corner. But let's talk football because Micah Parsons
is ready to go in Green Bay, but his back hurts.
MRI says he's fine. He says he's not and may
need an epidural injection. What's that going to do for him?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh? Epidural injection. That's where they basically stick a needle
into your spinal cord, just the area kind of outside
just final cord, and they numb up the nerve that's
entering that area. So that's what women get when they
when they give birth, they get an epidural because it
just kills all the pain. But if the MRI is normal,
I don't know why you're doing an epidural. It's a
little odd and usually teams don't really love it when
(00:55):
they trade for a star athlete, he comes in hurt.
That's a little weird.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, I think he's gonna be okay. But let's ask
this question. He didn't really have any contact for the
last four weeks in training camp with the Cowboys, waiting
for the contract to come through and the trade that
sent him to Green Bay. So how careful do teams
need to be with a player who really hasn't had
any contact in about eight or nine months.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, it's kind of uncharted territory. You really need that preseason.
You need, you know, the guys getting back in shade,
hitting each other real hard, getting used to the contact.
I know, he's an incredible physical specimen. He's a professional
football player for a long time, so he's not going
to be you know, it's not going to be foreign
to him getting hit like that. But your body does
need a little bit of time to adjust. So I
would be fairly conservative with him, just because of his
(01:41):
talent level, not to rush him back out there too fast.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
All right, let's talk about Matt Stafford. Do we mentioned
him a few weeks ago? He too has a week back.
What is it with football players and backs that seem
to be kind of the trend these days.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I'm probably more surprised if there's an NFL football
player that doesn't have back pain Matt Safford playing as
long as he has taken as many hits as he has,
you're vulnerable as a quarterback, especially because when you get
in that throwing position and if you get hit from
the blind side or even from the front side, you're
not able to brace as well. If you don't bring
both arms and stuff your arm is in the middle
of a throwing action and you get hit, your spine
(02:15):
is are way way more stress, way more risk. But
he's a football player. I don't think you play with
any precautions because if you do play with precautions, then
you end up getting more hurt.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know, there's a lot of athletes that when the
season's over, they're on vacation until they have to show up.
And then there's others that come to mind, like Kobe
Bryant and Michael Jordan back in the day, that when
the season's over, they give themselves about three days and
they're back in the gym. Why don't more athletes do
that during the summer. It would seem to me that
if you stay in shape the whole time, you're going
(02:47):
to prevent injuries more than you're going to get them.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, I've had the fortune of working with a lot
of high end professional athletes, and many of them didn't
get much of an education. A lot of them aren't
super smart, and so you had this unbelievable talent and
ability and you have people around you telling you you're
the greatest thing ever. So if someone like what's his
name that played for the Pelicans, unbelievable talent came out
(03:10):
of duke and he's always injury riddled because he's never
in shape. As Ian Williamson, guy on, yeahs Iion Williamson.
He's a good example. Guys like that have more talent
and more ability than they should and they don't have
to put the work eth Again, it does catch up
to you, though, because those guys that realized early on
that have the work ethic and the talent, those are
the ones that you know, love more hate them that
(03:30):
end up like Lebron Kobe Jordan. They put in the
work and they continue to be really high level and
they don't get hurt as much.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
All Right, this is on a personal note here, and
I sometimes don't I understand. I'm sixty one going on
sixty two, and I understand things change as you age,
but I'm going to take you through like a scenario.
Tell me why this happens and what can I do
to make it better. So I play a round of golf.
I'm fairly loose, especially when it's one hundred degrees outside.
(03:56):
The last have several holes. I'm playing great. I go in,
I have water, I may eat something. We figure out
who won and who lost. And I'm sitting there in
an air conditioning room for twenty five minutes, and I
stand up and I feel like an old man. It's
about to fall down. Everything is stiff, everything hurts, and
it takes me a while just to kind of get
loose again. What's going on? And what can I do
(04:17):
to not make that happen.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The only thing you can do to not make that
happen is the age backwards about thirty years to start,
and then keep moving the longer. The more you sit still,
no matter what position you're in, if your knees bent
straight event from your pips, your back. A good example
is if you took your finger and you just pulled
it backwards. You feel a little stretched in front of
your finger, like, oh, it feels pretty good. After a while,
it starts to get real stiff, so you pull it
(04:40):
back further. Now it feels a little better. About a
minute later it starts getting really stiffic, and then you
let go that it's really hard to bend it. Connective
tissue when it's not really warmed up and loosened is
kind of like a cold rubber band. It gets thicker
and less mobile. And so if you just don't use
it for a little while, and as we get older,
we just become less elastic, it's stiff and and so
(05:00):
it takes a little while to warm up. There's no
real there's no real science to prevent it. You just
try your best to be as healthy as you can,
eat well, move around a lot, and don't sit too much.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, we were in Scotland. I was walking six or
seven miles a day. Then we'd sit in a restaurant
for an hour and a half and it would take
me ten minutes to get loose enough to walk back
to the place where we were staying.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, it's like me get out of bed every morning,
I can barely move, barely walk, But then by the
end of the day I'm doing things that I shouldn't
be doing in my age.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But that's that's that's the plan. Just keep moving and
work it out. Okay, talk to me about protein shakes.
What should people avoid? What should people consider if they're
going to supplement with protein shakes.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So generally speaking, I wouldn't take a protein shake unless
you're not getting enough protein and that is your best
source of it. So for the most part, you don't
need protein shakes. If you are going to do it,
look at the ingredients, because there's a lot of protein
shakes that have just a ton of garbage in them.
You know's every kind of proteins. There's p protein, vegetable protein,
there's wave protein. All of it is somewhat okay. But
(06:00):
if the ingredients you can't pronounce or don't know what
they are. A lot of times, if you look at
the back of a protein bottle, you look back there
and there's thirty ingredients, that's not good for you. That's
pretty unhealthy. If there's four ingredients or three or four
and you can recognize them and you know what they are,
it's probably pretty high quality. And then as far as
like taking it before or after a workout, it really
doesn't matter. Like your metabolic window isn't that's not a
(06:22):
real thing because it takes forever to digest protein, so
taking it thirty minutes before thirty minutes after a workout
doesn't make a big difference. It's more about getting protein
consistently in you throughout the day. And ideally you want
to have about if you're working out, one gram per
body pound of your ideal body weight, so you want
to be two hundred pounds, that's where you want to be,
two hundred grads of protein. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So I'll give you another scenario here. Monday, I played golf.
I showed up late, I didn't warm up, I didn't eat,
I wasn't hydrated, and I was seven over after five holes.
Finally I was warmed up, I'd had something to eat,
and I had started drinking a lot of water, and
I played pretty well the rest of the way. So
when you're kind of start activity, do you need to
make sure at least I know, I think I know
(07:05):
the answer for me. But hydration and nutrition before you
do something like that is usually better, isn't it. Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, for sure. You want to make sure you've got
the calories in there so you don't bonk, you don't
have a brain cloud, and water and electrolytes are incredibly important.
If you don't have that in you and you're dehydrated,
like all that connect your tissue we talked about in
a minute ago. When you stiffen up, it doesn't get hydrated,
so you're less likely to have a smooth, fluid motion
with whatever sport you're playing.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Awesome, all right, anything coming up that you got to
train for soon?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I've got a couple couple competitions, one in October and
one in November. One's a four man team, one's a
male female team, So looking forward to those.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Awesome. Thanks as always, Jason. We'll talk again next week.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
All right, Thanks Maddie.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
All right, that's doctor Jason Garrett from out at ROSTI
And hopefully some of the things that we tell you
about each week help you and your activities and we
clear up all these injuries from athletes. And after week
one next week, I'm sure there's going to be a
bunch of injured players in the NFL that we'll be
talking about as well. We'll talk more about Kawhi Leonard
coming up in a little bit, but Bill Belichick was
in the news today Colin Coward talking more about him
(08:11):
and the disaster that the tar Heels had against TCU
the other night, and what may be in store for
the rest of the year. That conversation coming up on
the ticket
A chance, says, as we do on every Wednesday, or
is it with doctor Jason Garrick from a ROSTI? How
are you today? Jason?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm good? How are you doing? Andy?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Very good? Out here at the IRAQ where the Spurs
work out and get ready for games the season right
around the corner. But let's talk football because Micah Parsons
is ready to go in Green Bay, but his back hurts.
MRI says he's fine. He says he's not and may
need an epidural injection. What's that going to do for him?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh? Epidural injection. That's where they basically stick a needle
into your spinal cord, just the area kind of outside
just final cord, and they numb up the nerve that's
entering that area. So that's what women get when they
when they give birth, they get an epidural because it
just kills all the pain. But if the MRI is normal,
I don't know why you're doing an epidural. It's a
little odd and usually teams don't really love it when
(00:55):
they trade for a star athlete, he comes in hurt.
That's a little weird.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, I think he's gonna be okay. But let's ask
this question. He didn't really have any contact for the
last four weeks in training camp with the Cowboys, waiting
for the contract to come through and the trade that
sent him to Green Bay. So how careful do teams
need to be with a player who really hasn't had
any contact in about eight or nine months.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, it's kind of uncharted territory. You really need that preseason.
You need, you know, the guys getting back in shade,
hitting each other real hard, getting used to the contact.
I know, he's an incredible physical specimen. He's a professional
football player for a long time, so he's not going
to be you know, it's not going to be foreign
to him getting hit like that. But your body does
need a little bit of time to adjust. So I
would be fairly conservative with him, just because of his
(01:41):
talent level, not to rush him back out there too fast.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
All right, let's talk about Matt Stafford. Do we mentioned
him a few weeks ago? He too has a week back.
What is it with football players and backs that seem
to be kind of the trend these days.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, I'm probably more surprised if there's an NFL football
player that doesn't have back pain Matt Safford playing as
long as he has taken as many hits as he has,
you're vulnerable as a quarterback, especially because when you get
in that throwing position and if you get hit from
the blind side or even from the front side, you're
not able to brace as well. If you don't bring
both arms and stuff your arm is in the middle
of a throwing action and you get hit, your spine
(02:15):
is are way way more stress, way more risk. But
he's a football player. I don't think you play with
any precautions because if you do play with precautions, then
you end up getting more hurt.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know, there's a lot of athletes that when the
season's over, they're on vacation until they have to show up.
And then there's others that come to mind, like Kobe
Bryant and Michael Jordan back in the day, that when
the season's over, they give themselves about three days and
they're back in the gym. Why don't more athletes do
that during the summer. It would seem to me that
if you stay in shape the whole time, you're going
(02:47):
to prevent injuries more than you're going to get them.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, I've had the fortune of working with a lot
of high end professional athletes, and many of them didn't
get much of an education. A lot of them aren't
super smart, and so you had this unbelievable talent and
ability and you have people around you telling you you're
the greatest thing ever. So if someone like what's his
name that played for the Pelicans, unbelievable talent came out
(03:10):
of duke and he's always injury riddled because he's never
in shape. As Ian Williamson, guy on, yeahs Iion Williamson.
He's a good example. Guys like that have more talent
and more ability than they should and they don't have
to put the work eth Again, it does catch up
to you, though, because those guys that realized early on
that have the work ethic and the talent, those are
the ones that you know, love more hate them that
(03:30):
end up like Lebron Kobe Jordan. They put in the
work and they continue to be really high level and
they don't get hurt as much.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
All Right, this is on a personal note here, and
I sometimes don't I understand. I'm sixty one going on
sixty two, and I understand things change as you age,
but I'm going to take you through like a scenario.
Tell me why this happens and what can I do
to make it better. So I play a round of golf.
I'm fairly loose, especially when it's one hundred degrees outside.
(03:56):
The last have several holes. I'm playing great. I go in,
I have water, I may eat something. We figure out
who won and who lost. And I'm sitting there in
an air conditioning room for twenty five minutes, and I
stand up and I feel like an old man. It's
about to fall down. Everything is stiff, everything hurts, and
it takes me a while just to kind of get
loose again. What's going on? And what can I do
(04:17):
to not make that happen.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The only thing you can do to not make that
happen is the age backwards about thirty years to start,
and then keep moving the longer. The more you sit still,
no matter what position you're in, if your knees bent
straight event from your pips, your back. A good example
is if you took your finger and you just pulled
it backwards. You feel a little stretched in front of
your finger, like, oh, it feels pretty good. After a while,
it starts to get real stiff, so you pull it
(04:40):
back further. Now it feels a little better. About a
minute later it starts getting really stiffic, and then you
let go that it's really hard to bend it. Connective
tissue when it's not really warmed up and loosened is
kind of like a cold rubber band. It gets thicker
and less mobile. And so if you just don't use
it for a little while, and as we get older,
we just become less elastic, it's stiff and and so
(05:00):
it takes a little while to warm up. There's no
real there's no real science to prevent it. You just
try your best to be as healthy as you can,
eat well, move around a lot, and don't sit too much.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, we were in Scotland. I was walking six or
seven miles a day. Then we'd sit in a restaurant
for an hour and a half and it would take
me ten minutes to get loose enough to walk back
to the place where we were staying.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, it's like me get out of bed every morning,
I can barely move, barely walk, But then by the
end of the day I'm doing things that I shouldn't
be doing in my age.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But that's that's that's the plan. Just keep moving and
work it out. Okay, talk to me about protein shakes.
What should people avoid? What should people consider if they're
going to supplement with protein shakes.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So generally speaking, I wouldn't take a protein shake unless
you're not getting enough protein and that is your best
source of it. So for the most part, you don't
need protein shakes. If you are going to do it,
look at the ingredients, because there's a lot of protein
shakes that have just a ton of garbage in them.
You know's every kind of proteins. There's p protein, vegetable protein,
there's wave protein. All of it is somewhat okay. But
(06:00):
if the ingredients you can't pronounce or don't know what
they are. A lot of times, if you look at
the back of a protein bottle, you look back there
and there's thirty ingredients, that's not good for you. That's
pretty unhealthy. If there's four ingredients or three or four
and you can recognize them and you know what they are,
it's probably pretty high quality. And then as far as
like taking it before or after a workout, it really
doesn't matter. Like your metabolic window isn't that's not a
(06:22):
real thing because it takes forever to digest protein, so
taking it thirty minutes before thirty minutes after a workout
doesn't make a big difference. It's more about getting protein
consistently in you throughout the day. And ideally you want
to have about if you're working out, one gram per
body pound of your ideal body weight, so you want
to be two hundred pounds, that's where you want to be,
two hundred grads of protein. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So I'll give you another scenario here. Monday, I played golf.
I showed up late, I didn't warm up, I didn't eat,
I wasn't hydrated, and I was seven over after five holes.
Finally I was warmed up, I'd had something to eat,
and I had started drinking a lot of water, and
I played pretty well the rest of the way. So
when you're kind of start activity, do you need to
make sure at least I know, I think I know
(07:05):
the answer for me. But hydration and nutrition before you
do something like that is usually better, isn't it. Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, for sure. You want to make sure you've got
the calories in there so you don't bonk, you don't
have a brain cloud, and water and electrolytes are incredibly important.
If you don't have that in you and you're dehydrated,
like all that connect your tissue we talked about in
a minute ago. When you stiffen up, it doesn't get hydrated,
so you're less likely to have a smooth, fluid motion
with whatever sport you're playing.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Awesome, all right, anything coming up that you got to
train for soon?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I've got a couple couple competitions, one in October and
one in November. One's a four man team, one's a
male female team, So looking forward to those.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Awesome. Thanks as always, Jason. We'll talk again next week.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
All right, Thanks Maddie.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
All right, that's doctor Jason Garrett from out at ROSTI
And hopefully some of the things that we tell you
about each week help you and your activities and we
clear up all these injuries from athletes. And after week
one next week, I'm sure there's going to be a
bunch of injured players in the NFL that we'll be
talking about as well. We'll talk more about Kawhi Leonard
coming up in a little bit, but Bill Belichick was
in the news today Colin Coward talking more about him
(08:11):
and the disaster that the tar Heels had against TCU
the other night, and what may be in store for
the rest of the year. That conversation coming up on
the ticket
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