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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's our number two of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Thank you for spending your afternoon with us wherever it
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All right, ready for some that's baseball.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm always ready for that's baseball, all right, Manny Machado
fighting Mado.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
The You know, the the Podres are a pretty darn
good baseball team too, aren't they. I mean, if I
don't have a problem with Tatis, even though he cheated
last year, and I think Luisa Rise is a fabulous hitter.
I'm not really sure why they're betting him forth. I
would bet him up closer to the beginning of the lineup,
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but that is a really good baseball team. But Machado
got his two thousandth hit this past weekend, and the
question is always who's next to get to three thousand,
because that's the benchmark for immortality, and Machado likely is
a Hall of Famer in some people's eyes already, probably
needs another three or four hundred hits to solidify that.
(01:45):
With everybody else, maybe not a first ballot guy, but
certainly eventually gets in the in within the ten years.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Do you think really, because.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
We know how stingy MLB writers are well, but Machado
is brash.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
But I don't think he's upset too many writers. I
think he's just kind of he's just being manny. Each
ei ro should have been unanimous.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, well one guy decided he was to me.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think a lot of times the writers will get
together and go, who's going to be the guy that
doesn't vote? Yes, who's gonna other than Rivera? Nobody ever
got in unanimously. I mean, the the fact that Nolan
Ryan wasn't unanimous, and that Hank Aaron wasn't unanimous. Uh,
and Willie Mays wasn't unanimous. Uh, and only Mariano Rivera
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is the only unanimous player. I think he's the only
unanimous player ever. I mean, really, who's not going to
vote for Hank Aaron when it was time for him
to get in?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You're gonna make him wait a year. That's just being patty.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But that's what the Baseball Writers Association has always done.
Is I think they get together and say, okay, who's
going to take the heat this year? And uh, and
not vote for the guy that we all think we
should be voting for. But anyway, Mariano is the only
only unanimous And again the babe who didn't vote for
Babe Bruce, who didn't vote for Ty Cobb, who didn't
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vote for Mickey Mann, Nickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, Whitey Ford.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I mean, just Lou Grrett was ineligible right because he
didn't play long enough.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Oh he's in the Hall of Fame, is yeah? I
think he played long just you know it baffles me. Yeah,
the kid? How is the kid not unanimous?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Johnny bench greatest catcher, ever, how is.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
He not unanimous?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And and man and some there's always somebody that goes Now,
I just don't want to and whether they whether you
and I get the people that don't vote for Clemmens
and a rodden Bonds because of the steroids stuff from
McGuire Jeter, how I Jeter missed out by one vote?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah? Was it? Probably a Boston writer like but but
the Boss.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It probably was somebody like in I don't know, Canada
or something, but the boss. If the Boston writers aren't
going to vote, if the New York writers are going
to vote for Ted Williams, the Boston writers should vote
for all the Yankee guys. It's just there's just always
one guy that has to be And they don't make
it public, which they should so definitely, so we could,
(04:03):
you know, tell them on the only problem with making
it public is that somebody would do something crazy and
threaten them or whatever, or you know, or to docks
their information or to get violence or do violence, or
to try to hack them online or something stupid like that.
And nobody should be a subject to that, even if
they do make something as as crazy as an easy vote.
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But It just seems to me that every year there's
somebody that decides, oh, I'm going to be the guy
this year that takes it for the team, so that
this guy's not unanimous and the fact, I mean, you
really couldn't deny Rivera, but you couldn't deny any of
the other guys we just mentioned either. So the next
two guys up on the list that could potentially get
to three thousand hits ye are Freddie Freeman and Jose Altuve.
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But they're likely going to have to play seven more
seasons and get around one hundred and twenty hits a
season to be able to do that. And they're both
around the probably five more seasons at one on twenty five,
and they're both thirty five, so they could put If
they can stay healthy, they could potentially get there. But
my guess is is that one or both will not.
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I would like to see them both. I always like
to see people join those clubs. I think it's pretty cool.
But I don't know that we're going to see another
three thousand hit guy at least for five or six years,
much like we're not going to see a three hundred
game winner, because nobody's ever going to pitch enough to
get the wins unless they modify the way that we
give wins to teams. Uh so Uh. Anyway, Freeman al
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twove next on the list.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So, just looking at jose al Tuovey's hits, he did
go through a stretch where he hit in let's see one, two,
three four in four years. He basically hit close with thousand,
maybe about nine hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Little two hundred plus hits in fourth straight years.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And in fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen he was at
two twenty five. So it's not thirty five then, true,
he was at two twenty five two hundred and two
sixteen two o four.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Uh, he's basically and.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Just not counting the twenty twenty season, uh, where he
only got forty two hits, but again they played a
shortened season.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
He's still hitting at.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Worst Indy the twenty twenty three season, where I believe
he was injured quite a bit, He's still hit for
one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, what was that on that?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I think, well, I think he can get one hundred
and twenty a year. Can he play five more years?
He's at oh yeah, he's at ninety three right now yeah,
so probably one forty this year. Maybe, yeah, one fifty
could be so that he has a shot. Freeman probably
has a shot as well. All Right, The All Star
Game is next Tuesday. Looking forward to it, don't you
can't wait to miss it. Actually I'll watch some of it.
But we are going to be in the the official
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age of sky Net. John Connor, watch out wherever you are,
because the robots are now taking over the.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
All Star Game. Boom boom. We need that.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We need the Terminator music here. No, I don't want
James trying to sue us. It is James Cameron, right.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, well we got We're like Michael Bays. We're licensed
to use it.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We can.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We can use that stuff. We never we got the
we got the music in here. I know I have
it because I use it for for for beds from
time to time for things.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Andy ever does not use any unlicensed music.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's not a license, it's it's part of our arrangement.
We can use it, all right. I've cleared that. I've
made sure about that.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You've given the wink, the you know, the wink and
the nod to James Cameron.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I have all right.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, so anyway, uh but anyway, their robots will be
calling balls and strikes at the All Star Game. Now, Listen,
I understand I don't want to. There's sometimes where they
get off my line. Long guy is okay. I don't
always want to go down that road, because I do
think that progress is necessary.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I think you either adapt or die.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I've been with in some capacity or another, with this
company for thirty seven years, and things are way different
than we did them in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And I get it, and we're.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Gonna and then probably in the next ten years, we're
gonna be have even more changes, and it's going to
be different and faster and more unique than we've ever
thought about. And things are gonna happen that we can't
even fathom now. But the game is played by human
beings at an unbelievable skill set, and now we're going
to tell computers that they're going to decide what's a
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ball and a strike. So I'm watching I'm watching Yankees
and whoever they were playing last night, Seattle, and they
got Tim Hill, who's a sinker ball side arm throwing,
left handed pitcher, and I don't think the robot would
have called any of the strikes that he threw a strike.
They were definitely below the knee, and David Austin Wells
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catching was framing it perfectly. But to me, there was
no way the Seattle players could hit any of those pitches.
And he struck out, he got three. He got three
guys out, three up, three down in the inning that
I was watching, and in every strikeout was a fastball
half an inch below the knee on the inside corner.
And I would doubt very seriously if the robot would
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have called that a strike. And so you're going to
take a guy and listen, I believe if you're a
major league baseball hitter, you need to adapt to the
way the pitcher is pitching and the way the umpire
is umpiring, and that every umpire, because they're not the
exact same size, and they're not the exact same built,
and they're going to look over the left of the
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right shoulder of the catcher somewhat differently, is going to
see things that they look at as a strike and others.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
As a ball.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And you know, you now have all the scouting reports
not only on the team that you're playing, but you
know what the tendencies of every umpire is there's data
on every umpire when they're behind the plate. The base
umpires are just there to find out whether the ball
is faero foul or if the guys outer safe on
close plays at the base, But the home plate umpire
is making a decision on every pitch, and as long
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as they're relatively consistent, both the pitcher, the catcher and
the hitter is going to adjust to that. That's why
you got guys in the back in the strike in
the in the on deck circle. They're not only timing
what the pitcher's doing, but they're looking to see what
they're they're getting called as balls and strikes. And when
a catcher's up to bat and gets called a strike,
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the only time he really gets upset is when that
exact same pitch in the previous inning was also not
called a strike for his guy.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And so we play the game with human beings, and
I really think the game should be officiated by human beings, Like,
for example, let's put robots in the NBA AI avatars
running up and down the court to call fouls. Well,
by the true definition of the rule, we would still
be playing Game four of the Finals because everything would
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have been a foul. Every breath would have been a foul,
and yet players still adjusted to it, And I thought
we had a great finals. That there's got to be
a human element in the way the games are officiated,
just as the way that there's got to be a
human element in the way the games are played, because
in fifty years, it may be the Spurs and the Lakers,
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and it may be Lebron James's avatar playing instead of
actually somebody that is a human person. And I don't
necessarily want to see that. I want to see great
athletes do fantastic things that I can't do, you can't do,
and only a handful of people in the world can do.
And so in these sports where I think that, And
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once Major League Baseball goes to the robot umpire, it's
not coming back the other way. There's no unless the Bay,
unless a Major League Baseball Players Association goes on permanent
strike and we miss an entire season, in an entire
World Series, there's no way once they go to the
robot umpires that they're coming back. And the sinker ball
pitcher may go away if you can't throw it one
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hundred and seven at somebody's head and get them to
swing at it. There, you're probably not going to be
a pitcher in the league. Tim Hill was throwing ninety
miles an hour, side arms, sinkers and getting people out.
And that type of player may never exist again in
Major League Baseball with robot umpires.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, and I know there are very few and far between.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Obviously the the late Tim Wakefield, you know, with the knuckleball.
Granted it was a very unique pitch, but things like that,
you know, say, for instance, franber Valdez has that very
nasty curveball.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
May that may not start. That may not be.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Called anymore as a strike unless it's flat out the
guys are swinging for it.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, that was Tim Wakefield. Didn't get a whole lot
of called strikes. Young swung at something and so it's
coming out. You had fifty miles an hour and you
thought you could hit it. Yeah, and because there was
no spin on it would just drop out of the air.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I don't mind the robot umpires as long as it
doesn't become the permanent situation. We can have it there
as the challenge system. It's like, hey, what did you
think you want to challenge it. We thought that it
should have been a strikeer.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, we're gonna have fifty challenges a game, but then
you limit them. But but it all felt like when
Tennis went to the robot to determine whether the ball
hit the lines or not, and the and it was
only there the umpire called it a See, I'd like
for the robot to be the opposite of way it is.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Let's employ the robot.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Let's let the umpire call balls and strikes, and the
robot can overturn the umpire, but not.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. I don't mind having
the technology there.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
But I don't want the I don't want the umpire
to have an earpiece in and just mimic whatever the
robot says.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So if if we're gonna and I haven't seen if
we're how we're doing this or not, but I want
the umpire to still call balls and strikes. And if
you and you get three challenges a game, or each
hitter gets one challenge a game, or whatever it is,
and if they're going to do it that way, okay,
then maybe I'll be okay with it. But in some
minor league parks the robots calling everything, and I don't
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that we don't need to go that route. They if
we do, there's no reason to have an umpires association
and just you know, hire somebody from the concession stand
and work twenty bucks a game and and mimic whatever
the robot tells them.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, you know what, you can bring back Angel Hernandez.
At that point you don't have to worry about him
getting it wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So I so I want the umpires to call the
balls and strikes, but to have you can challenge with
the robot, Yes, but you can't have the robot making
all the decisions for all the play And I think
Tim Hill would have been challenged on every hitter last night.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And you know, at least when they're implementing it for
the Major League, it's for a game that doesn't it
doesn't matter it's an exhibition game. We can some of
these players can get a little introduced into it to see, hey,
what's going what's going to be possibly called?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
What's not?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I think being able to see whatever the potential rules
are for it. Like how I was telling you, is
is the robot going to say okay? Is half of
the baseball hitting the quote unquote strike zone or is
below what.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Are the the termination The letters to the knees for
Aaron Judge are different from the letters for the knees
for Josel two.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Then I agree, And then that's where you know, maybe
with the robot umpires, you have the availability to adjust
that particular strike. You know that that box the strike strikeout,
strike zone box for them or maybe it as I
don't know. I'm for them using the technology because I
understand you're I'm all for the human aspect, but I'm
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also for we've got to make sure at times we
get calls right, especially when they're very important calls.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, just a bit outside strike one. We got to
make sure that those are not called. And there was
there's some that are in the left handed batter's box
and they're called a strike.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, we don't need Angel Hernandez. Basically, you know, three
feet off off the plate calling Bryce Harper for a
strike and you know Bryce Harper.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Or there being at third base when he clearly checked
the swing and called it a strike. Anyway, Yeah, all right, Uh,
Dion spoke at media. He has some interesting thoughts. We'll
talk about football. Next, it's the Andy average show on
the ticket.
It's our number two of the program.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Thank you for spending your afternoon with us wherever it
is that you may be in San Antonio on Tickets
seven sixty and around the world on the free iHeartRadio app.
You can use Ticket seven sixty as one of your presets, yes,
preset number one, and know that we're always there four
o'clock Monday through Friday. And again we encourage all of
(00:26):
you listening. There's many people in our listing audience up
in the Kerrville area, Ingram Hunt, and throughout the Hill
country along the Guadalupe River that are still very much
impacted by what happened with the floods and the storms
this past weekend, and we want you to continue to
support them as much as you possibly can. Go on
line Ticket seven sixty dot com. There is a link
(00:48):
there to the South Texas or Central Texas Flood Relief Fund.
All right, ready for some that's baseball.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm always ready for that's baseball, all right, Manny Machado
fighting Mado.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
The You know, the the Podres are a pretty darn
good baseball team too, aren't they. I mean, if I
don't have a problem with Tatis, even though he cheated
last year, and I think Luisa Rise is a fabulous hitter.
I'm not really sure why they're betting him forth. I
would bet him up closer to the beginning of the lineup,
(01:23):
but that is a really good baseball team. But Machado
got his two thousandth hit this past weekend, and the
question is always who's next to get to three thousand,
because that's the benchmark for immortality, and Machado likely is
a Hall of Famer in some people's eyes already, probably
needs another three or four hundred hits to solidify that.
(01:45):
With everybody else, maybe not a first ballot guy, but
certainly eventually gets in the in within the ten years.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Do you think really, because.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
We know how stingy MLB writers are well, but Machado
is brash.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
But I don't think he's upset too many writers. I
think he's just kind of he's just being manny. Each
ei ro should have been unanimous.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, well one guy decided he was to me.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think a lot of times the writers will get
together and go, who's going to be the guy that
doesn't vote? Yes, who's gonna other than Rivera? Nobody ever
got in unanimously. I mean, the the fact that Nolan
Ryan wasn't unanimous, and that Hank Aaron wasn't unanimous. Uh,
and Willie Mays wasn't unanimous. Uh, and only Mariano Rivera
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is the only unanimous player. I think he's the only
unanimous player ever. I mean, really, who's not going to
vote for Hank Aaron when it was time for him
to get in?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You're gonna make him wait a year. That's just being patty.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But that's what the Baseball Writers Association has always done.
Is I think they get together and say, okay, who's
going to take the heat this year? And uh, and
not vote for the guy that we all think we
should be voting for. But anyway, Mariano is the only
only unanimous And again the babe who didn't vote for
Babe Bruce, who didn't vote for Ty Cobb, who didn't
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vote for Mickey Mann, Nickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio, Whitey Ford.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I mean, just Lou Grrett was ineligible right because he
didn't play long enough.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Oh he's in the Hall of Fame, is yeah? I
think he played long just you know it baffles me. Yeah,
the kid? How is the kid not unanimous?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Johnny bench greatest catcher, ever, how is.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
He not unanimous?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And and man and some there's always somebody that goes Now,
I just don't want to and whether they whether you
and I get the people that don't vote for Clemmens
and a rodden Bonds because of the steroids stuff from
McGuire Jeter, how I Jeter missed out by one vote?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah? Was it? Probably a Boston writer like but but
the Boss.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It probably was somebody like in I don't know, Canada
or something, but the boss. If the Boston writers aren't
going to vote, if the New York writers are going
to vote for Ted Williams, the Boston writers should vote
for all the Yankee guys. It's just there's just always
one guy that has to be And they don't make
it public, which they should so definitely, so we could,
(04:03):
you know, tell them on the only problem with making
it public is that somebody would do something crazy and
threaten them or whatever, or you know, or to docks
their information or to get violence or do violence, or
to try to hack them online or something stupid like that.
And nobody should be a subject to that, even if
they do make something as as crazy as an easy vote.
(04:26):
But It just seems to me that every year there's
somebody that decides, oh, I'm going to be the guy
this year that takes it for the team, so that
this guy's not unanimous and the fact, I mean, you
really couldn't deny Rivera, but you couldn't deny any of
the other guys we just mentioned either. So the next
two guys up on the list that could potentially get
to three thousand hits ye are Freddie Freeman and Jose Altuve.
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But they're likely going to have to play seven more
seasons and get around one hundred and twenty hits a
season to be able to do that. And they're both
around the probably five more seasons at one on twenty five,
and they're both thirty five, so they could put If
they can stay healthy, they could potentially get there. But
my guess is is that one or both will not.
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I would like to see them both. I always like
to see people join those clubs. I think it's pretty cool.
But I don't know that we're going to see another
three thousand hit guy at least for five or six years,
much like we're not going to see a three hundred
game winner, because nobody's ever going to pitch enough to
get the wins unless they modify the way that we
give wins to teams. Uh so Uh. Anyway, Freeman al
(05:34):
twove next on the list.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So, just looking at jose al Tuovey's hits, he did
go through a stretch where he hit in let's see one, two,
three four in four years. He basically hit close with thousand,
maybe about nine hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Little two hundred plus hits in fourth straight years.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And in fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen he was at
two twenty five. So it's not thirty five then, true,
he was at two twenty five two hundred and two
sixteen two o four.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Uh, he's basically and.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Just not counting the twenty twenty season, uh, where he
only got forty two hits, but again they played a
shortened season.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
He's still hitting at.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Worst Indy the twenty twenty three season, where I believe
he was injured quite a bit, He's still hit for
one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, what was that on that?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I think, well, I think he can get one hundred
and twenty a year. Can he play five more years?
He's at oh yeah, he's at ninety three right now yeah,
so probably one forty this year. Maybe, yeah, one fifty
could be so that he has a shot. Freeman probably
has a shot as well. All Right, The All Star
Game is next Tuesday. Looking forward to it, don't you
can't wait to miss it. Actually I'll watch some of it.
But we are going to be in the the official
(06:47):
age of sky Net. John Connor, watch out wherever you are,
because the robots are now taking over the.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
All Star Game. Boom boom. We need that.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We need the Terminator music here. No, I don't want
James trying to sue us. It is James Cameron, right.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, well we got We're like Michael Bays. We're licensed
to use it.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We can.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We can use that stuff. We never we got the
we got the music in here. I know I have
it because I use it for for for beds from
time to time for things.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Andy ever does not use any unlicensed music.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's not a license, it's it's part of our arrangement.
We can use it, all right. I've cleared that. I've
made sure about that.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You've given the wink, the you know, the wink and
the nod to James Cameron.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I have all right.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, so anyway, uh but anyway, their robots will be
calling balls and strikes at the All Star Game. Now, Listen,
I understand I don't want to. There's sometimes where they
get off my line. Long guy is okay. I don't
always want to go down that road, because I do
think that progress is necessary.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I think you either adapt or die.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I've been with in some capacity or another, with this
company for thirty seven years, and things are way different
than we did them in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And I get it, and we're.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Gonna and then probably in the next ten years, we're
gonna be have even more changes, and it's going to
be different and faster and more unique than we've ever
thought about. And things are gonna happen that we can't
even fathom now. But the game is played by human
beings at an unbelievable skill set, and now we're going
to tell computers that they're going to decide what's a
(08:23):
ball and a strike. So I'm watching I'm watching Yankees
and whoever they were playing last night, Seattle, and they
got Tim Hill, who's a sinker ball side arm throwing,
left handed pitcher, and I don't think the robot would
have called any of the strikes that he threw a strike.
They were definitely below the knee, and David Austin Wells
(08:44):
catching was framing it perfectly. But to me, there was
no way the Seattle players could hit any of those pitches.
And he struck out, he got three. He got three
guys out, three up, three down in the inning that
I was watching, and in every strikeout was a fastball
half an inch below the knee on the inside corner.
And I would doubt very seriously if the robot would
(09:06):
have called that a strike. And so you're going to
take a guy and listen, I believe if you're a
major league baseball hitter, you need to adapt to the
way the pitcher is pitching and the way the umpire
is umpiring, and that every umpire, because they're not the
exact same size, and they're not the exact same built,
and they're going to look over the left of the
(09:26):
right shoulder of the catcher somewhat differently, is going to
see things that they look at as a strike and others.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
As a ball.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And you know, you now have all the scouting reports
not only on the team that you're playing, but you
know what the tendencies of every umpire is there's data
on every umpire when they're behind the plate. The base
umpires are just there to find out whether the ball
is faero foul or if the guys outer safe on
close plays at the base, But the home plate umpire
is making a decision on every pitch, and as long
(09:56):
as they're relatively consistent, both the pitcher, the catcher and
the hitter is going to adjust to that. That's why
you got guys in the back in the strike in
the in the on deck circle. They're not only timing
what the pitcher's doing, but they're looking to see what
they're they're getting called as balls and strikes. And when
a catcher's up to bat and gets called a strike,
(10:16):
the only time he really gets upset is when that
exact same pitch in the previous inning was also not
called a strike for his guy.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And so we play the game with human beings, and
I really think the game should be officiated by human beings, Like,
for example, let's put robots in the NBA AI avatars
running up and down the court to call fouls. Well,
by the true definition of the rule, we would still
be playing Game four of the Finals because everything would
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have been a foul. Every breath would have been a foul,
and yet players still adjusted to it, And I thought
we had a great finals. That there's got to be
a human element in the way the games are officiated,
just as the way that there's got to be a
human element in the way the games are played, because
in fifty years, it may be the Spurs and the Lakers,
(11:08):
and it may be Lebron James's avatar playing instead of
actually somebody that is a human person. And I don't
necessarily want to see that. I want to see great
athletes do fantastic things that I can't do, you can't do,
and only a handful of people in the world can do.
And so in these sports where I think that, And
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once Major League Baseball goes to the robot umpire, it's
not coming back the other way. There's no unless the Bay,
unless a Major League Baseball Players Association goes on permanent
strike and we miss an entire season, in an entire
World Series, there's no way once they go to the
robot umpires that they're coming back. And the sinker ball
pitcher may go away if you can't throw it one
(11:51):
hundred and seven at somebody's head and get them to
swing at it. There, you're probably not going to be
a pitcher in the league. Tim Hill was throwing ninety
miles an hour, side arms, sinkers and getting people out.
And that type of player may never exist again in
Major League Baseball with robot umpires.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, and I know there are very few and far between.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Obviously the the late Tim Wakefield, you know, with the knuckleball.
Granted it was a very unique pitch, but things like that,
you know, say, for instance, franber Valdez has that very
nasty curveball.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
May that may not start. That may not be.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Called anymore as a strike unless it's flat out the
guys are swinging for it.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, that was Tim Wakefield. Didn't get a whole lot
of called strikes. Young swung at something and so it's
coming out. You had fifty miles an hour and you
thought you could hit it. Yeah, and because there was
no spin on it would just drop out of the air.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I don't mind the robot umpires as long as it
doesn't become the permanent situation. We can have it there
as the challenge system. It's like, hey, what did you
think you want to challenge it. We thought that it
should have been a strikeer.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, we're gonna have fifty challenges a game, but then
you limit them. But but it all felt like when
Tennis went to the robot to determine whether the ball
hit the lines or not, and the and it was
only there the umpire called it a See, I'd like
for the robot to be the opposite of way it is.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Let's employ the robot.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Let's let the umpire call balls and strikes, and the
robot can overturn the umpire, but not.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. I don't mind having
the technology there.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
But I don't want the I don't want the umpire
to have an earpiece in and just mimic whatever the
robot says.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So if if we're gonna and I haven't seen if
we're how we're doing this or not, but I want
the umpire to still call balls and strikes. And if
you and you get three challenges a game, or each
hitter gets one challenge a game, or whatever it is,
and if they're going to do it that way, okay,
then maybe I'll be okay with it. But in some
minor league parks the robots calling everything, and I don't
(13:59):
that we don't need to go that route. They if
we do, there's no reason to have an umpires association
and just you know, hire somebody from the concession stand
and work twenty bucks a game and and mimic whatever
the robot tells them.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, you know what, you can bring back Angel Hernandez.
At that point you don't have to worry about him
getting it wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So I so I want the umpires to call the
balls and strikes, but to have you can challenge with
the robot, Yes, but you can't have the robot making
all the decisions for all the play And I think
Tim Hill would have been challenged on every hitter last night.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And you know, at least when they're implementing it for
the Major League, it's for a game that doesn't it
doesn't matter it's an exhibition game. We can some of
these players can get a little introduced into it to see, hey,
what's going what's going to be possibly called?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
What's not?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I think being able to see whatever the potential rules
are for it. Like how I was telling you, is
is the robot going to say okay? Is half of
the baseball hitting the quote unquote strike zone or is
below what.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Are the the termination The letters to the knees for
Aaron Judge are different from the letters for the knees
for Josel two.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Then I agree, And then that's where you know, maybe
with the robot umpires, you have the availability to adjust
that particular strike. You know that that box the strike strikeout,
strike zone box for them or maybe it as I
don't know. I'm for them using the technology because I
understand you're I'm all for the human aspect, but I'm
(15:30):
also for we've got to make sure at times we
get calls right, especially when they're very important calls.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, just a bit outside strike one. We got to
make sure that those are not called. And there was
there's some that are in the left handed batter's box
and they're called a strike.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, we don't need Angel Hernandez. Basically, you know, three
feet off off the plate calling Bryce Harper for a
strike and you know Bryce Harper.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Or there being at third base when he clearly checked
the swing and called it a strike. Anyway, Yeah, all right, Uh,
Dion spoke at media. He has some interesting thoughts. We'll
talk about football. Next, it's the Andy average show on
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