July 16, 2025 • 18 mins
Andy & Mike make their picks for the Open Championship.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We're counting down to the start of the Open Championship.
Many of you referred to it as the British Open.
Around the world is the Open Championship, and for most
golfers that are not in the United States, where we
pretty much put the Masters on top of the tournaments
that most would like to win the most, the Open
Championship is the world's event, and especially those in Europe
(00:25):
who consider it the holy Grail of golf, it's it's not.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
There's only one holy grail of golf, Andy, and that
is the Masters, and that is.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Because I put them one on one A. I'm sorry.
The Masters is a tradition like no other exactly, but
but the Masters would have never happened if it hadn't
been for the Open.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, I'm sorry. The Open doesn't have a very good catchphrase.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You give me a good catchphrase for the Open, like
the Masters of the Home of Golf, the birth of golf,
where golf was invented. It doesn't roll off the tongue
and doesn't sound as good as tradition like that.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Jim Nash just made that up. I don't, Yeah, and
he's good at making that up.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hey, you know, you know Al Michaels.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, do you believe in Yes, yes, so if
when when whoever is doing see you know what here,
here's here's why it's it's not a thing. It's because
we're getting the the the is it the BBC that
they're carrying the coverage.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, we'll get we'll get NBC and Peacock tomorrow, but
we'll get Tarico and Dan Hicks and and.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Whoever else is there.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, Brad faxon Kids, Nurse Smiley Kaufman, we'll get all those.
Those guys will be But from time to time, the
Peacock coverage might be picking up the sky the Sky
Sports feed, uh and or the World feed sometimes, so
the what you get here on on NBC may be
a variety of things, but for the most part, it'll
be say, NBC.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
People see that, that's the thing because I don't care
about first round, second round, care about the last round?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, the championship will be Rico and Hicks.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Oh okay, so they'll cover the fourth round.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, okay, Well then Mike Turrico needs to give me
a good like line and then we can have the debate.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
All right, there we go.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You are up first. Would you like to make your
You're on the clock for your selection and the uh
the Open Championship twenty twenty five. And this is the
most anti climatic pick ever.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It's a very tough decision. Andy. You know I've been
I've been mulling this over. I did tell Pat on Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know, I was kind of waning because one, Scotty
Scheffler has not been playing well.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
He's been playing well enough. He hasn't finished outside the
top fifteen in two years.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's not I mean, he's not playing well. He hasn't
won the last two events. He only was nine under
last week, and it just the gigantic choker grinned Andy
has on his face right now that I am legit
talking golf, just breaking it like that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's what he's done to me.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Right, it's gott, it's got. He's going number one.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
All right, Well, guess who I'm picking number one?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Xander?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh, don't tell me You're taking Rory.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Of course I'm taking He's playing in his backyard. How
would I not take Rory?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Because Rory doesn't care about anything the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, well, he cares about Northern Ireland and he's he's
my first pick. I'll take Roy mcle.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
He's gonna trunk slam on on on PhD.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He did last year the last time this tournament was here,
see exactly. It's that's the redemption. It's port Rush redemption
to her.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
All right, I could I could go the defending champ,
not at this course, but just the defending champ in general. Yes, Xander,
that would be Xander, but you told me the defending
champ of the actual course. The last time it was
played there with Shane one was one Shane Lowry. That
being said, You're gonna take neither one of them, right,
I'm going with your guy called him more coow.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, he's not my guy because life is. There's there's
demons in Marcawa's head right now because you know it's
called caddying. He's got he's gone through it, these guys
on his third caddy in three months. So he's got
Billy Foster on the bag now, used to caddy for
Savvy back in the day, and that was that was.
If he can handle Savy, he can certainly handle Morikawa.
My second pick is going to be somebody that has
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never won a major and never even won a PGA
tour event, but he's due Russell Henley, Tommy Fleetwood.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh, Tommy Fleetwood. Tommy Fleetwood thirteenth in the in the
World Golf rankings.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And never he's won DP World Tour events. He's won
in Ireland, he's won in Europe, but he's never won
a PGA Tour sanctioned event or a major. And he'll
get both if he does this one. Okay, he's knocked
on the door a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
He's ready.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I really want to take I really want to take
my guy Xander. But like how I've been telling you,
he played well last week, but he.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Just still doesn't look one hundred percent right. I am
going to go with my favorite Sweden, my favorite Swede, Hoblin.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, my favorite come on now, Okay, I'm gonna go
with Luig Oberg.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
All right, you got him. My final pick is going.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
To be.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
The captain. No, you're not gonna take the captain.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Not taking the Captain. I am taking a Scott.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You're taking a Scott.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I am taking somebody that won the Scottie chopin last
year and almost won it again this year. That would
be one Robert Bob McIntyre.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Fourteen on the World Golf ranking. There you go, all right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
McIntyre was in his press conference and he was asking
about how American golfers struggle coming over to UH play
in the UK.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
M M.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And he said, and he took seven minutes to tell
his story that he could have take told him a
minute and a half. He was really slow and really deliberate.
And he said, well, I was playing golf in the
Estates a few weeks ago with I'll not name who,
but a really high ball hitter. And he wondered why
he didn't play well in Scotland and he said, because
I could tell right away he hits the ball too high.
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If you don't hit the if you're getting if you're
gonna hit the ball in the way, you're gonna have
what they're gonna have twenty nine hour wins tomorrow in Ireland.
It's gonna rain all day and it's gonna come from
three different directions. True, we saw they they changed it
after we saw it. Yeah it was only five. Yeah,
well we'll see what the weather is. But he's correct
about that. So the wind is gonna make a major factor.
It's gonna be it's not it's not warm by American
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standards for it, for sure. But if you can't control
the flight of the golf ball and you're not used
to playing Scottish Irish English golf, you've got little chance
of winning. So those are our picks, all right. Let's
get to Wyndham Clark. At the US Open this year
at Oakmont, Wyndham Clark was not very happy and he
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basically kicked his locker in the locker room and damaged
it quite a bit. And the next week, when he
was at the Travelers Championship in Hartford, Connecticut, he sent
a letter of apology to the club. I think he
even said to send me the bill for the repairs
of it all pay for it. And the club did
not necessarily accept that apology, and today Wyndham Clark has
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received a permanent ban from Oakmont Country Club grounds. He
is no longer welcome to come to Oakmont.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, here's the excuse me, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
He might Wyndham Clark might have said, yes, send me
the bill or whatever, but this is according to John Lynch,
who is the Oakmont Country Club country club president. He
said that he sent a letter and that the ban
could be lifted if Clark, who is thirty one, pays
for the damages and makes a quote meaningful contribution end
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quote to a charity selected by the Oakmont Country Club Board.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And there's something else they want him to do too,
and undergo, Man, that's the cap. That's the kicker right there.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
He's gonna be like Anger Management Club.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He's probably gonna be like you've probably never seen the
episode Shane might but the Simpsons. There's the Simpsons that episode.
You know, you know the character Ned Flanders, right, I've
heard of it. It doesn't he doesn't like cuss or anything.
He says all these mumbo jumbo words because when he
was younger he had like anger management and that's how
he wound up expressing himself, coming up with like darn
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ditaly dark, you know, instead of saying actual.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And I feel like that's what they're trying to do here.
It's well off, Okay, there's gonna be words that are said.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
That I've already I've already told you I'll pay for
the damages. Send me the bill. What is it a
thousand bucks? If you're if you're chopping the wood from
the tree to start to build it, it can't be
a lot more than that it's a locker number two.
I'll send whatever charity you want another or fifteen hundred
bucks because I can. But I don't need anger management classes.
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I'm not going to that. And oh, by the way,
the US opens there in twenty thirty three, and I'll
only be thirty nine years old when it rolls around again.
And if I qualify, you gotta let me in so
i'll see you in eight years. I don't need to
play the be there before. And if I qualify, you
have to let me play a practice round, or you
have to not let anybody play a practice round.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Bay them might drop might.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Drop on with so pay you know, send them three
thousand dollars in a bottle of something and call it
a day.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I just I just don't get like how this hasn't
already been resolved, like how Wyndham Clark's people or or
maybe or or because it'll love you dearly, but we
all know how sometimes you golf people can be little
best off people, a little little snobby. Maybe it's a
little maybe it's Oakmont just being like, how dare you
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disrespect us? Even though you said you're gonna pay for
this stuff, We're not gonna actually send you a bill
to make you look like the bad guy, because we're
gonna be petty like that.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, all right, let me tell you about the U
at the Open Rota uh. There's ten golf courses on
the Open Rota Open uh and the rotation that's Scottish
English for rotation that they pick and choose where the
it is going to be played each year.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
In England there are four courses royal at them in
Saint Anne's Royal, Birkdale, Royal, Saint George, in Hoylake. In
Ireland there's one and that's a Royal Port Rush, and
there's five in Scotland that would be Trouon and Turnberry, Mirefield,
Carnoosti and Saint Andrews. So those are the ten golf
courses that they pick and choose where the Open will
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go to and the RNA can basically pick another one
and add to the rotation whenever they want. It has
not been back to Merefield since twenty thirteen. It's likely
to be there in twenty eight, twenty nine or thirty
it has. It has not been to Turnberry since two
thousand and nine. Prior to two thousand and nine, it
had not been there since nineteen eighty six and then
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in nineteen seventy seven. Turnberry is one of the prettiest
golf courses that you will ever see. It is an
amazing golf course, and it's got a two hundred and
ten sweet hotel room overlooking the golf course. There's a
secondary golf course nearby, and it toasted the tournament in
two thousand and nine, and there was speculation that at
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some point it would have probably gotten the open back
around twenty twenty to twenty twenty five somewhere running there. However,
in twenty seventeen, the Trump organization that buys hotels in
country clubs and golf resorts and all that, purchased the
place and it's now known as Trump Turnberry. I will
tell you that the green fee is quite expensive, but
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everything else is reasonably priced. And when I went there
two years ago, it was a four hundred pound plus
green fee. But it was the food in the locker
room and the beverages and all that kind of stuff
in the mixed grill was the same as you'd get
anywhere else. Shirts and hats and balls and souvenirs and
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all that kind of stuff. They were not overly priced.
There's a lot of places that were much higher what
Turnberry was. But today that question comes up every year.
Are you gonna ever go back to Turnbury? What does
the Trump organization have to do as long as President
Trump's in office? Are you gonna as long as he
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owns it? Are you gonna go there? YadA, YadA YadA.
And today the new guy that's in charge of the
RNA basically said, we have infrastructure problems at Turnberry. The
roads getting to Turnberry are a little sketchy. They're not
they're the easiest roads in Scotland to drive. If you
want sketchy, drive on the whatever A one ninety between
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Aberdeen and Inverness. That's sketchy.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's a hard road to drive. I also drove the
road between the Glasgow and Turnberry and it's not a
hard road. It's one of the easiest roads to drive on.
And it's what they call carriageway, their word for highway.
It's dual carriageway, which means two lanes in each direction,
so it's not hard to get to. And now there
may be some hotel situation because there's only two hundred
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rooms at that hotel, and then up the road in
the city of Prestwick, and a little bit further up
in Glasgow, and in all the surrounding areas. You're gonna
have every hotel, hostel, whatever they got there is going
to be loaded in full for the open And I
know the RNA doesn't want to do this. They want
to be as politically correct as they possibly can. They
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what they're what they're They don't want to just come
out and say the reason we haven't been back is
because of the it's and I'm sure there's people in
the RNA that are Trump supporters and there's people in
the RNA that are not. It does not have anything
to do with whether you support Trump or don't support Trump.
But what they don't want to have happened when they
play golf at a in a major championship. They don't
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want the story to be about who owns the golf
course In Saint Andrews. The city owns the golf course Mirfield.
The Honorable Company of Edinburgh Golfers owns the golf course.
Truon is a resort golf course. Carnoustie is I guess
owned by the City of Krnoustie, all these other golf
courses don't have a multi billionaire as their quote unquote
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owner of the club. Turnberry does, and I don't have
a problem. And the previous guys that ran the RNA
basically came out and said, here's the problem with going
back to Turnberry. We know there's going to be thousands
of people that want to protest this event, and there's
going to be thousands of people that are lined up
at the gates of the golf course stretching back for miles, saying,
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how dare you hold a golf tournament when you've got
a very polarizing individual who happens to be the leader
of a country in charge of your golf course. And
the story would not be Scotty Scheffler wins at Turnberry.
It would be Scotty Scheffler wins on Trump's golf course
at Turnberry. And that's what they're trying to avoid. They
have two golf courses there so they can close the
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other one and have more room on the fairways and
the driving ranges and stuff for all the hospitality and
the thousands of TV trucks they've got and the miles
of cable they've got a poll to get around the
golf course. All of that is relatively easy to do.
If they have an inf structure problem with hotels, maybe
they've got something there because they're somewhat hard to find
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even when you're going on vacation there. But don't tell
me that the golf course can't handle it and that
the property isn't big enough, because it's one of the
hugest properties for a golf course that's out there. And
I get it. Everybody that is sponsoring anything wants to
be politically agnostic as much as they can. If I
own I am, if I'm Titleist, and this portion of
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the Open Championship is brought to you by Titleist, and
somebody says I'm not buying Titleists because you supported the
Open Trump at Turnberry and I don't like Trump, then
that's a problem. Every business is trying to stay neutral
with every decision that they make because they want everybody
to buy their stuff. And the CEO and the president
could have opposite or similar political and social views. They're
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never going to tell you what they are because they
want you to buy their product. So until they read solve,
can we do this without it being about Trump and
it being about golf. That's what's stopping. That's what's stopping
the tournament from going back to an iconic golf course
and what most people consider the first or second best
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golf course in the entire United Kingdom. Royal County Down
in Ireland usually gets the other votes. So and Royal
County Down does not have infrastructure and it doesn't have
the feasibility to host the golf tournament. That's why they're
at Port Rush. So I'm not buying the story he
gave today. It's it's good if that's what he wants
to go with. They may need to tweak this and
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tweak that. They have had conversations with Eric Trump and
the people that run the resorts, and they're also concerned
about security. If Donald decides to show up at the tournament,
you know, we've got a sitting president because he'll still
be president in twenty The next one they can go
to is twenty eight, so well he would he would
be out by then, but they still have to provide
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security for him. I think it'll eventually go back there,
but they may want him. They may make everybody wait
until after he's out of office and then the Trump
family can do the rest and be involved with that.
But the reason they haven't been back is they were
gonna go twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two somewhere running there.
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Obviously COVID would have had a lot of issues scheduling
all of those events. But the reason they're not there
is because of the polarization that would come with it.
And it's a shame because people will do that and
it won't be about golf. It'll be about about that,
polarize about the polarizing figure that the president is. So
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I'm okay with the rotation that they have. I've played
a lot of the golf courses that are there, none
of those in England and Ireland have played all five
of them, or four of the five in Scotland. But
that's the reason why. And I just wish people would say,
until we figure out how to make this about golf
and not about a person, then that's why we haven't
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We're counting down to the start of the Open Championship.
Many of you referred to it as the British Open.
Around the world is the Open Championship, and for most
golfers that are not in the United States, where we
pretty much put the Masters on top of the tournaments
that most would like to win the most, the Open
Championship is the world's event, and especially those in Europe
(00:25):
who consider it the holy Grail of golf, it's it's not.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
There's only one holy grail of golf, Andy, and that
is the Masters, and that is.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Because I put them one on one A. I'm sorry.
The Masters is a tradition like no other exactly, but
but the Masters would have never happened if it hadn't
been for the Open.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, I'm sorry. The Open doesn't have a very good catchphrase.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You give me a good catchphrase for the Open, like
the Masters of the Home of Golf, the birth of golf,
where golf was invented. It doesn't roll off the tongue
and doesn't sound as good as tradition like that.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Jim Nash just made that up. I don't, Yeah, and
he's good at making that up.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hey, you know, you know Al Michaels.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, do you believe in Yes, yes, so if
when when whoever is doing see you know what here,
here's here's why it's it's not a thing. It's because
we're getting the the the is it the BBC that
they're carrying the coverage.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, we'll get we'll get NBC and Peacock tomorrow, but
we'll get Tarico and Dan Hicks and and.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Whoever else is there.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, Brad faxon Kids, Nurse Smiley Kaufman, we'll get all those.
Those guys will be But from time to time, the
Peacock coverage might be picking up the sky the Sky
Sports feed, uh and or the World feed sometimes, so
the what you get here on on NBC may be
a variety of things, but for the most part, it'll
be say, NBC.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
People see that, that's the thing because I don't care
about first round, second round, care about the last round?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, the championship will be Rico and Hicks.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Oh okay, so they'll cover the fourth round.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, okay, Well then Mike Turrico needs to give me
a good like line and then we can have the debate.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
All right, there we go.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You are up first. Would you like to make your
You're on the clock for your selection and the uh
the Open Championship twenty twenty five. And this is the
most anti climatic pick ever.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It's a very tough decision. Andy. You know I've been
I've been mulling this over. I did tell Pat on Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know, I was kind of waning because one, Scotty
Scheffler has not been playing well.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
He's been playing well enough. He hasn't finished outside the
top fifteen in two years.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's not I mean, he's not playing well. He hasn't
won the last two events. He only was nine under
last week, and it just the gigantic choker grinned Andy
has on his face right now that I am legit
talking golf, just breaking it like that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's what he's done to me.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Right, it's gott, it's got. He's going number one.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
All right, Well, guess who I'm picking number one?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Xander?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh, don't tell me You're taking Rory.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Of course I'm taking He's playing in his backyard. How
would I not take Rory?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Because Rory doesn't care about anything the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, well, he cares about Northern Ireland and he's he's
my first pick. I'll take Roy mcle.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
He's gonna trunk slam on on on PhD.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He did last year the last time this tournament was here,
see exactly. It's that's the redemption. It's port Rush redemption
to her.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
All right, I could I could go the defending champ,
not at this course, but just the defending champ in general. Yes, Xander,
that would be Xander, but you told me the defending
champ of the actual course. The last time it was
played there with Shane one was one Shane Lowry. That
being said, You're gonna take neither one of them, right,
I'm going with your guy called him more coow.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, he's not my guy because life is. There's there's
demons in Marcawa's head right now because you know it's
called caddying. He's got he's gone through it, these guys
on his third caddy in three months. So he's got
Billy Foster on the bag now, used to caddy for
Savvy back in the day, and that was that was.
If he can handle Savy, he can certainly handle Morikawa.
My second pick is going to be somebody that has
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never won a major and never even won a PGA
tour event, but he's due Russell Henley, Tommy Fleetwood.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh, Tommy Fleetwood. Tommy Fleetwood thirteenth in the in the
World Golf rankings.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And never he's won DP World Tour events. He's won
in Ireland, he's won in Europe, but he's never won
a PGA Tour sanctioned event or a major. And he'll
get both if he does this one. Okay, he's knocked
on the door a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
He's ready.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I really want to take I really want to take
my guy Xander. But like how I've been telling you,
he played well last week, but he.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Just still doesn't look one hundred percent right. I am
going to go with my favorite Sweden, my favorite Swede, Hoblin.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, my favorite come on now, Okay, I'm gonna go
with Luig Oberg.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
All right, you got him. My final pick is going.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
To be.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
The captain. No, you're not gonna take the captain.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Not taking the Captain. I am taking a Scott.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You're taking a Scott.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I am taking somebody that won the Scottie chopin last
year and almost won it again this year. That would
be one Robert Bob McIntyre.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Fourteen on the World Golf ranking. There you go, all right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
McIntyre was in his press conference and he was asking
about how American golfers struggle coming over to UH play
in the UK.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
M M.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And he said, and he took seven minutes to tell
his story that he could have take told him a
minute and a half. He was really slow and really deliberate.
And he said, well, I was playing golf in the
Estates a few weeks ago with I'll not name who,
but a really high ball hitter. And he wondered why
he didn't play well in Scotland and he said, because
I could tell right away he hits the ball too high.
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If you don't hit the if you're getting if you're
gonna hit the ball in the way, you're gonna have
what they're gonna have twenty nine hour wins tomorrow in Ireland.
It's gonna rain all day and it's gonna come from
three different directions. True, we saw they they changed it
after we saw it. Yeah it was only five. Yeah,
well we'll see what the weather is. But he's correct
about that. So the wind is gonna make a major factor.
It's gonna be it's not it's not warm by American
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standards for it, for sure. But if you can't control
the flight of the golf ball and you're not used
to playing Scottish Irish English golf, you've got little chance
of winning. So those are our picks, all right. Let's
get to Wyndham Clark. At the US Open this year
at Oakmont, Wyndham Clark was not very happy and he
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basically kicked his locker in the locker room and damaged
it quite a bit. And the next week, when he
was at the Travelers Championship in Hartford, Connecticut, he sent
a letter of apology to the club. I think he
even said to send me the bill for the repairs
of it all pay for it. And the club did
not necessarily accept that apology, and today Wyndham Clark has
(07:08):
received a permanent ban from Oakmont Country Club grounds. He
is no longer welcome to come to Oakmont.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, here's the excuse me, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
He might Wyndham Clark might have said, yes, send me
the bill or whatever, but this is according to John Lynch,
who is the Oakmont Country Club country club president. He
said that he sent a letter and that the ban
could be lifted if Clark, who is thirty one, pays
for the damages and makes a quote meaningful contribution end
(07:45):
quote to a charity selected by the Oakmont Country Club Board.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And there's something else they want him to do too,
and undergo, Man, that's the cap. That's the kicker right there.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
He's gonna be like Anger Management Club.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He's probably gonna be like you've probably never seen the
episode Shane might but the Simpsons. There's the Simpsons that episode.
You know, you know the character Ned Flanders, right, I've
heard of it. It doesn't he doesn't like cuss or anything.
He says all these mumbo jumbo words because when he
was younger he had like anger management and that's how
he wound up expressing himself, coming up with like darn
(08:22):
ditaly dark, you know, instead of saying actual.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And I feel like that's what they're trying to do here.
It's well off, Okay, there's gonna be words that are said.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
That I've already I've already told you I'll pay for
the damages. Send me the bill. What is it a
thousand bucks? If you're if you're chopping the wood from
the tree to start to build it, it can't be
a lot more than that it's a locker number two.
I'll send whatever charity you want another or fifteen hundred
bucks because I can. But I don't need anger management classes.
(08:49):
I'm not going to that. And oh, by the way,
the US opens there in twenty thirty three, and I'll
only be thirty nine years old when it rolls around again.
And if I qualify, you gotta let me in so
i'll see you in eight years. I don't need to
play the be there before. And if I qualify, you
have to let me play a practice round, or you
have to not let anybody play a practice round.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Bay them might drop might.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Drop on with so pay you know, send them three
thousand dollars in a bottle of something and call it
a day.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I just I just don't get like how this hasn't
already been resolved, like how Wyndham Clark's people or or
maybe or or because it'll love you dearly, but we
all know how sometimes you golf people can be little
best off people, a little little snobby. Maybe it's a
little maybe it's Oakmont just being like, how dare you
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disrespect us? Even though you said you're gonna pay for
this stuff, We're not gonna actually send you a bill
to make you look like the bad guy, because we're
gonna be petty like that.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, all right, let me tell you about the U
at the Open Rota uh. There's ten golf courses on
the Open Rota Open uh and the rotation that's Scottish
English for rotation that they pick and choose where the
it is going to be played each year.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
In England there are four courses royal at them in
Saint Anne's Royal, Birkdale, Royal, Saint George, in Hoylake. In
Ireland there's one and that's a Royal Port Rush, and
there's five in Scotland that would be Trouon and Turnberry, Mirefield,
Carnoosti and Saint Andrews. So those are the ten golf
courses that they pick and choose where the Open will
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go to and the RNA can basically pick another one
and add to the rotation whenever they want. It has
not been back to Merefield since twenty thirteen. It's likely
to be there in twenty eight, twenty nine or thirty
it has. It has not been to Turnberry since two
thousand and nine. Prior to two thousand and nine, it
had not been there since nineteen eighty six and then
(10:43):
in nineteen seventy seven. Turnberry is one of the prettiest
golf courses that you will ever see. It is an
amazing golf course, and it's got a two hundred and
ten sweet hotel room overlooking the golf course. There's a
secondary golf course nearby, and it toasted the tournament in
two thousand and nine, and there was speculation that at
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some point it would have probably gotten the open back
around twenty twenty to twenty twenty five somewhere running there. However,
in twenty seventeen, the Trump organization that buys hotels in
country clubs and golf resorts and all that, purchased the
place and it's now known as Trump Turnberry. I will
tell you that the green fee is quite expensive, but
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everything else is reasonably priced. And when I went there
two years ago, it was a four hundred pound plus
green fee. But it was the food in the locker
room and the beverages and all that kind of stuff
in the mixed grill was the same as you'd get
anywhere else. Shirts and hats and balls and souvenirs and
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all that kind of stuff. They were not overly priced.
There's a lot of places that were much higher what
Turnberry was. But today that question comes up every year.
Are you gonna ever go back to Turnbury? What does
the Trump organization have to do as long as President
Trump's in office? Are you gonna as long as he
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owns it? Are you gonna go there? YadA, YadA YadA.
And today the new guy that's in charge of the
RNA basically said, we have infrastructure problems at Turnberry. The
roads getting to Turnberry are a little sketchy. They're not
they're the easiest roads in Scotland to drive. If you
want sketchy, drive on the whatever A one ninety between
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Aberdeen and Inverness. That's sketchy.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's a hard road to drive. I also drove the
road between the Glasgow and Turnberry and it's not a
hard road. It's one of the easiest roads to drive on.
And it's what they call carriageway, their word for highway.
It's dual carriageway, which means two lanes in each direction,
so it's not hard to get to. And now there
may be some hotel situation because there's only two hundred
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rooms at that hotel, and then up the road in
the city of Prestwick, and a little bit further up
in Glasgow, and in all the surrounding areas. You're gonna
have every hotel, hostel, whatever they got there is going
to be loaded in full for the open And I
know the RNA doesn't want to do this. They want
to be as politically correct as they possibly can. They
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what they're what they're They don't want to just come
out and say the reason we haven't been back is
because of the it's and I'm sure there's people in
the RNA that are Trump supporters and there's people in
the RNA that are not. It does not have anything
to do with whether you support Trump or don't support Trump.
But what they don't want to have happened when they
play golf at a in a major championship. They don't
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want the story to be about who owns the golf
course In Saint Andrews. The city owns the golf course Mirfield.
The Honorable Company of Edinburgh Golfers owns the golf course.
Truon is a resort golf course. Carnoustie is I guess
owned by the City of Krnoustie, all these other golf
courses don't have a multi billionaire as their quote unquote
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owner of the club. Turnberry does, and I don't have
a problem. And the previous guys that ran the RNA
basically came out and said, here's the problem with going
back to Turnberry. We know there's going to be thousands
of people that want to protest this event, and there's
going to be thousands of people that are lined up
at the gates of the golf course stretching back for miles, saying,
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how dare you hold a golf tournament when you've got
a very polarizing individual who happens to be the leader
of a country in charge of your golf course. And
the story would not be Scotty Scheffler wins at Turnberry.
It would be Scotty Scheffler wins on Trump's golf course
at Turnberry. And that's what they're trying to avoid. They
have two golf courses there so they can close the
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other one and have more room on the fairways and
the driving ranges and stuff for all the hospitality and
the thousands of TV trucks they've got and the miles
of cable they've got a poll to get around the
golf course. All of that is relatively easy to do.
If they have an inf structure problem with hotels, maybe
they've got something there because they're somewhat hard to find
(15:06):
even when you're going on vacation there. But don't tell
me that the golf course can't handle it and that
the property isn't big enough, because it's one of the
hugest properties for a golf course that's out there. And
I get it. Everybody that is sponsoring anything wants to
be politically agnostic as much as they can. If I
own I am, if I'm Titleist, and this portion of
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the Open Championship is brought to you by Titleist, and
somebody says I'm not buying Titleists because you supported the
Open Trump at Turnberry and I don't like Trump, then
that's a problem. Every business is trying to stay neutral
with every decision that they make because they want everybody
to buy their stuff. And the CEO and the president
could have opposite or similar political and social views. They're
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never going to tell you what they are because they
want you to buy their product. So until they read solve,
can we do this without it being about Trump and
it being about golf. That's what's stopping. That's what's stopping
the tournament from going back to an iconic golf course
and what most people consider the first or second best
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golf course in the entire United Kingdom. Royal County Down
in Ireland usually gets the other votes. So and Royal
County Down does not have infrastructure and it doesn't have
the feasibility to host the golf tournament. That's why they're
at Port Rush. So I'm not buying the story he
gave today. It's it's good if that's what he wants
to go with. They may need to tweak this and
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tweak that. They have had conversations with Eric Trump and
the people that run the resorts, and they're also concerned
about security. If Donald decides to show up at the tournament,
you know, we've got a sitting president because he'll still
be president in twenty The next one they can go
to is twenty eight, so well he would he would
be out by then, but they still have to provide
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security for him. I think it'll eventually go back there,
but they may want him. They may make everybody wait
until after he's out of office and then the Trump
family can do the rest and be involved with that.
But the reason they haven't been back is they were
gonna go twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two somewhere running there.
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Obviously COVID would have had a lot of issues scheduling
all of those events. But the reason they're not there
is because of the polarization that would come with it.
And it's a shame because people will do that and
it won't be about golf. It'll be about about that,
polarize about the polarizing figure that the president is. So
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I'm okay with the rotation that they have. I've played
a lot of the golf courses that are there, none
of those in England and Ireland have played all five
of them, or four of the five in Scotland. But
that's the reason why. And I just wish people would say,
until we figure out how to make this about golf
and not about a person, then that's why we haven't
gone back. All Right, the WNBA may go on strike
(18:04):
or may have a lockout. That would not be a
good thing. We'll talk about it next. It's the Indie
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